I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven. Whatever it is, it's kind of enchiladalike. Maybe it's an enchiraco. If it ends up being enjoyable, I'll post my goofy "recipe."

OK, it's 15, 20 or so minutes later, and my wife gave it a thumbs up, and had seconds.

I needed corn tortillas, and what I had were tostadas. I order to make them soft, I needed to moisten them, and what I used was pureed cherry tomato. My mistake was that I softened them too much because I started the process too early.

There was a little of the tomato puree left in the blender, and I added water, powdered guajillo chile, paprika, garlic powder and salt. The meat was cut off a t-bone steak and pounded. I pan cooked it on very high, and added cut up onion near the end of cooking.

I put the meat on the tostada shells, folded them over, applied the sauce, then put on a bunch of shredded mild Cheddar. Then, I took the little bit of remaining sauce and cut it down with water, so I could put it on top of the cheese. I baked the whole thing at 350 for maybe 12-15 minutes, then turned off the oven and walked away for about 10 more.

I took pix on my new phone, which I don't really know how to do stuff on, but there will be links to pix.

Until then, we can get back to discussing the prick who has been hospitalized with a case of the hoax.

--Bryan

--Bryan

"Bryan Simmons" > wrote in message
...
I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner
out of the oven. Whatever it is, it's kind of enchiladalike. Maybe it's an
enchiraco. If it ends up being enjoyable, I'll post my goofy "recipe."

OK, it's 15, 20 or so minutes later, and my wife gave it a thumbs up, and
had seconds.

I needed corn tortillas, and what I had were tostadas. I order to make them
soft, I needed to moisten them, and what I used was pureed cherry tomato.
My mistake was that I softened them too much because I started the process
too early.

There was a little of the tomato puree left in the blender, and I added
water, powdered guajillo chile, paprika, garlic powder and salt. The meat
was cut off a t-bone steak and pounded. I pan cooked it on very high, and
added cut up onion near the end of cooking.

I put the meat on the tostada shells, folded them over, applied the sauce,
then put on a bunch of shredded mild Cheddar. Then, I took the little bit
of remaining sauce and cut it down with water, so I could put it on top of
the cheese. I baked the whole thing at 350 for maybe 12-15 minutes, then
turned off the oven and walked away for about 10 more.

I took pix on my new phone, which I don't really know how to do stuff on,
but there will be links to pix.

Until then, we can get back to discussing the prick who has been
hospitalized with a case of the hoax.

---

My mom used to make a Dorito casserole. Stuff like that will soften in the
sauce.

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 2:01:46 PM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven. Whatever it is, it's kind of enchiladalike. Maybe it's an enchiraco. If it ends up being enjoyable, I'll post my goofy "recipe."
>
> OK, it's 15, 20 or so minutes later, and my wife gave it a thumbs up, and had seconds.
>
> I needed corn tortillas, and what I had were tostadas. I order to make them soft, I needed to moisten them, and what I used was pureed cherry tomato. My mistake was that I softened them too much because I started the process too early.
>
> There was a little of the tomato puree left in the blender, and I added water, powdered guajillo chile, paprika, garlic powder and salt. The meat was cut off a t-bone steak and pounded. I pan cooked it on very high, and added cut up onion near the end of cooking.
>
> I put the meat on the tostada shells, folded them over, applied the sauce, then put on a bunch of shredded mild Cheddar. Then, I took the little bit of remaining sauce and cut it down with water, so I could put it on top of the cheese. I baked the whole thing at 350 for maybe 12-15 minutes, then turned off the oven and walked away for about 10 more.
>
> I took pix on my new phone, which I don't really know how to do stuff on, but there will be links to pix.
>
> Until then, we can get back to discussing the prick who has been hospitalized with a case of the hoax.
>
> --Bryan
>
> --Bryan

I made some ahi cakes and seared ahi. I also fried up some oysters for laughs.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...MjCLPxVqZztBCo

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:01:46 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven.

I'd post about cooking if I did more of it. Wednesday I grilled a few skinless, boneless
chicken breasts. Last night I sliced up part one and made a sandwich on white bread
with mayo and chipotle powder. Preceded by a salad.

I've got two cooking "chores" on the docket for this weekend: cut up and blanch a
head of cabbage for future use and make the chana dal recipe that recently appeared
in the Washington Post, with modifications: better technique (their recipe is optimized
for speed) and substituting cauliflower for potatoes. I'll eat it with rice and I don't need
double starch.

Cindy H amilton

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 03:31:16 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:01:46 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven.
>
>I'd post about cooking if I did more of it. Wednesday I grilled a few skinless, boneless
>chicken breasts. Last night I sliced up part one and made a sandwich on white bread
>with mayo and chipotle powder. Preceded by a salad.
>
>I've got two cooking "chores" on the docket for this weekend: cut up and blanch a
>head of cabbage for future use and make the chana dal recipe that recently appeared
>in the Washington Post, with modifications: better technique (their recipe is optimized
>for speed) and substituting cauliflower for potatoes. I'll eat it with rice and I don't need
>double starch.

I made chickpea tempeh. It worked well. I bought a heating mat with a
thermostat. That's more reliable than a dehydrator without a
thermostat. Next will be more chickpea tempeh, black bean tempeh,
sunflower seed tempeh, sesame seed tempeh and mung bean tempeh.

I know that meat eaters, for some strange reason, frown upon meat
replacers but tempeh's a perfect... meat replacer!

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 6:14:07 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 03:31:16 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:01:46 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >> I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven.
> >
> >I'd post about cooking if I did more of it. Wednesday I grilled a few skinless, boneless
> >chicken breasts. Last night I sliced up part one and made a sandwich on white bread
> >with mayo and chipotle powder. Preceded by a salad.
> >
> >I've got two cooking "chores" on the docket for this weekend: cut up and blanch a
> >head of cabbage for future use and make the chana dal recipe that recently appeared
> >in the Washington Post, with modifications: better technique (their recipe is optimized
> >for speed) and substituting cauliflower for potatoes. I'll eat it with rice and I don't need
> >double starch.
> I made chickpea tempeh. It worked well. I bought a heating mat with a
> thermostat. That's more reliable than a dehydrator without a
> thermostat. Next will be more chickpea tempeh, black bean tempeh,
> sunflower seed tempeh, sesame seed tempeh and mung bean tempeh.
>
> I know that meat eaters, for some strange reason, frown upon meat
> replacers but tempeh's a perfect... meat replacer!

Tempeh isn't a "meat replacer." It's a food in its own right. Impossible burgers
are meat replacers. Morning Star imitation breakfast sausage links are
meat replacers. Tofu is not a meat replacer. Tofurkey *is* a meat replacer. I *do*
frown on meat replacers because they suck.

--Bryan

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
....
> Tempeh isn't a "meat replacer." It's a food in its own right. Impossible burgers
> are meat replacers. Morning Star imitation breakfast sausage links are
> meat replacers. Tofu is not a meat replacer. Tofurkey *is* a meat replacer. I *do*
> frown on meat replacers because they suck.
>
> --Bryan

We need Cultured Grown Meat! Grown/cultured from animal meat stem cells!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi5EfhPGHg4

John Kuthe...

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:53:24 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> ...
> > Tempeh isn't a "meat replacer." It's a food in its own right. Impossible burgers
> > are meat replacers. Morning Star imitation breakfast sausage links are
> > meat replacers. Tofu is not a meat replacer. Tofurkey *is* a meat replacer. I *do*
> > frown on meat replacers because they suck.
> >
> > --Bryan
> We need Cultured Grown Meat! Grown/cultured from animal meat stem cells!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi5EfhPGHg4

Like "Chicken Little" in *The Space Merchants*.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On 2020 Oct 3, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> I know that meat eaters, for some strange reason, frown upon meat
> replacers but tempeh's a perfect... meat replacer!

Now Im going to have to look up what €œtempeh€� is. I thought it was a
state of mind in the Deep South. Apparently, its a food?

On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 23:31:00 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Oct 3, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> I know that meat eaters, for some strange reason, frown upon meat
>> replacers but tempeh's a perfect... meat replacer!
>
>Now Im going to have to look up what €œtempeh€� is. I thought it was a
>state of mind in the Deep South. Apparently, its a food?

It's a food but I wouldn't be surprised if it was also a state of mind
in the Deep South.

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven. Whatever it is, it's kind of enchiladalike. Maybe it's an enchiraco. If it ends up being enjoyable, I'll post my goofy "recipe."
>
> OK, it's 15, 20 or so minutes later, and my wife gave it a thumbs up, and had seconds.
>
> I needed corn tortillas, and what I had were tostadas. I order to make them soft, I needed to moisten them, and what I used was pureed cherry tomato.. My mistake was that I softened them too much because I started the process too early.
>
> There was a little of the tomato puree left in the blender, and I added water, powdered guajillo chile, paprika, garlic powder and salt. The meat was cut off a t-bone steak and pounded. I pan cooked it on very high, and added cut up onion near the end of cooking.
>
> I put the meat on the tostada shells, folded them over, applied the sauce, then put on a bunch of shredded mild Cheddar. Then, I took the little bit of remaining sauce and cut it down with water, so I could put it on top of the cheese. I baked the whole thing at 350 for maybe 12-15 minutes, then turned off the oven and walked away for about 10 more.
>
> I took pix on my new phone, which I don't really know how to do stuff on, but there will be links to pix.
>
> Until then, we can get back to discussing the prick who has been hospitalized with a case of the hoax.

OK, here's the photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316

This is only my second smart phone, and the other was a piece of crap, loaded with
bloatware, so I never really used it much. This one is just a clean Android, but it's
still going to take me a while to learn its ways.
>
> --Bryan
>
--Bryan

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
....
> OK, here's the photos:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316
>
> This is only my second smart phone, and the other was a piece of crap, loaded with
> bloatware, so I never really used it much. This one is just a clean Android, but it's
> still going to take me a while to learn its ways.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> --Bryan

Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6K-bPh39M&t=41s

I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!

John Kuthe...

On 10/3/2020 10:52 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> ...
>> OK, here's the photos:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316
>>
Okay, thanks for the pics.

>> --Bryan
>
> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>
No one gives a shit, John.

Jill

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:06:16 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/3/2020 10:52 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
....
> > Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
> >
> No one gives a shit, John.
>
> Jill

And THAT'S the Problem!

You do not MIND that Billions of Dollars are being STOLEN from you all who carry those infernal SPY DEVICES? Fools!

And that is why I'm glad I have NO Spy Devices save for my MacinSLUT computer.

John Kuthe...

On 10/3/2020 1:47 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:06:16 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/3/2020 10:52 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> ...
>>> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>>>
>> No one gives a shit, John.
>>
>> Jill
>
> And THAT'S the Problem!
>
> You do not MIND that Billions of Dollars are being STOLEN from you all who carry those infernal SPY DEVICES? Fools!
>
> And that is why I'm glad I have NO Spy Devices save for my MacinSLUT computer.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
No one needs a SPY device to figure out what you're doing. You post
about every trivial moment of your day, all day long.

Jill

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 1:47:11 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:06:16 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 10/3/2020 10:52 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> ...
> > > Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
> > >
> > No one gives a shit, John.
> >
> > Jill
> And THAT'S the Problem!
>
> You do not MIND that Billions of Dollars are being STOLEN from you all who carry those infernal SPY DEVICES? Fools!

I can't be bothered to read the book. How are billions of dollars being stolen from us?

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:53:04 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> ...
> > OK, here's the photos:
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316
> >
> > This is only my second smart phone, and the other was a piece of crap, loaded with
> > bloatware, so I never really used it much. This one is just a clean Android, but it's
> > still going to take me a while to learn its ways.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > >
> > --Bryan
> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6K-bPh39M&t=41s
>
> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!
>

Perhaps people would place more credence in your views if you had the patience and
discipline to read the other half of the book.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/3/2020 11:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:53:04 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> ...
>>> OK, here's the photos:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316
>>>
>>> This is only my second smart phone, and the other was a piece of crap, loaded with
>>> bloatware, so I never really used it much. This one is just a clean Android, but it's
>>> still going to take me a while to learn its ways.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>> --Bryan
>> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>>
>>
(snipped link)

>> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!
>>
>
> Perhaps people would place more credence in your views if you had the patience and
> discipline to read the other half of the book.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I'm not sure anyone actually *cares* whether John finished the book.
(He has the attention span of a gnat.) If he's worried about
surveillance he needs to stop posting every little minute of his life
online.

Bryan posted pics of some food he cooked (similar to enchiladas since he
used the same method to wet the crispy tostada shells). Sure looked
better to me than any Kuthe "STD" meal.

Jill

Jill

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 11:51:09 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 10/3/2020 11:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:53:04 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> OK, here's the photos:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316
> >>>
> >>> This is only my second smart phone, and the other was a piece of crap, loaded with
> >>> bloatware, so I never really used it much. This one is just a clean Android, but it's
> >>> still going to take me a while to learn its ways.
> >>>>
> >>>> --Bryan
> >>>>
> >>> --Bryan
> >> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
> >>
> >>
> (snipped link)
> >> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps people would place more credence in your views if you had the patience and
> > discipline to read the other half of the book.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I'm not sure anyone actually *cares* whether John finished the book.

Agreed. But if he had the discipline to do so, he wouldn't be such an errant ass.

> (He has the attention span of a gnat.) If he's worried about
> surveillance he needs to stop posting every little minute of his life
> online.
>
> Bryan posted pics of some food he cooked (similar to enchiladas since he
> used the same method to wet the crispy tostada shells). Sure looked
> better to me than any Kuthe "STD" meal.

Agreed, and I don't even much like Mexican food.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:53:04 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> ...
> > OK, here's the photos:
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...57716230572316
> >
> > This is only my second smart phone, and the other was a piece of crap, loaded with
> > bloatware, so I never really used it much. This one is just a clean Android, but it's
> > still going to take me a while to learn its ways.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > >
> > --Bryan
> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6K-bPh39M&t=41s
>
> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!

They want to sell me things. I make it easy to target me with relevant advertising.
That's not peculiar to phones. The whole internet is full of that. If I look at tents on
one website, I get ads for tents popping up everywhere. The alternative to advertising
supported web content/services is for folks to pay up front, and there are too many
pages I want to visit to pay 3 cents each time. If a few percent of folks opt out of the
paradigm, that's not going to change things.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:12:53 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> They want to sell me things. I make it easy to target me with relevant advertising.
> That's not peculiar to phones. The whole internet is full of that. If I look at tents on
> one website, I get ads for tents popping up everywhere. The alternative to advertising
> supported web content/services is for folks to pay up front, and there are too many
> pages I want to visit to pay 3 cents each time. If a few percent of folks opt out of the
> paradigm, that's not going to change things.
>
> --Bryan
>
Use an ad blocker.

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 2:35:44 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 10:12:53 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > They want to sell me things. I make it easy to target me with relevant advertising.
> > That's not peculiar to phones. The whole internet is full of that. If I look at tents on
> > one website, I get ads for tents popping up everywhere. The alternative to advertising
> > supported web content/services is for folks to pay up front, and there are too many
> > pages I want to visit to pay 3 cents each time. If a few percent of folks opt out of the
> > paradigm, that's not going to change things.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> Use an ad blocker.

I do, but some sites can tell, and won't let you in if you don't allow their ads, and it
isn't just popups. Ad content is built in on many pages. I'm not complaining about the
ads and marketing. I'm OK with the system as it is.

--Bryan

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:53:04 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6K-bPh39M&t=41s
>
> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
Here we go again.

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 12:33:39 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:53:04 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6K-bPh39M&t=41s
>>
>> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>Here we go again.

He'll never know what's in the other half of this fantastic book.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 12:33:39 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:53:04 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you ever heard of Shoshana Zuboff a retired business professor from Harvard and her book "Surveillance Capitalism and Democracy"?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6K-bPh39M&t=41s
>>>
>>> I read 1/2 way through it and I was sickend and glad I never GOT a Stupid Phone!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> Here we go again.
>
> He'll never know what's in the other half of this fantastic book.
>

Take a deep whiff Druce. and hold your breath!

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 17:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>I've always been kind of a rebel. You know, a bad boy. I just took dinner out of the oven. Whatever it is, it's kind of enchiladalike. Maybe it's an enchiraco. If it ends up being enjoyable, I'll post my goofy "recipe."
>
>OK, it's 15, 20 or so minutes later, and my wife gave it a thumbs up, and had seconds.
>
>I needed corn tortillas, and what I had were tostadas. I order to make them soft, I needed to moisten them, and what I used was pureed cherry tomato. My mistake was that I softened them too much because I started the process too early.
>
>There was a little of the tomato puree left in the blender, and I added water, powdered guajillo chile, paprika, garlic powder and salt. The meat was cut off a t-bone steak and pounded. I pan cooked it on very high, and added cut up onion near the end of cooking.
>
>I put the meat on the tostada shells, folded them over, applied the sauce, then put on a bunch of shredded mild Cheddar. Then, I took the little bit of remaining sauce and cut it down with water, so I could put it on top of the cheese. I baked the whole thing at 350 for maybe 12-15 minutes, then turned off the oven and walked away for about 10 more.
>
>I took pix on my new phone, which I don't really know how to do stuff on, but there will be links to pix.
>
>Until then, we can get back to discussing the prick who has been hospitalized with a case of the hoax.
>
>--Bryan
>
>--Bryan

It sounds good to me. I often have just a little of something
(leftovers) and they become Tex-Mex something or other.
Nice save.
Janet US