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On Friday, March 17, 1995 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stan Horwitz wrote:
> Michelle Campbell ) wrote: > : In article > > : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating > : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating > : > habits. > : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? > There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup > with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when > I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. |
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Transition Zone wrote:
> On Friday, March 17, 1995 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stan Horwitz wrote: > > Michelle Campbell ) wrote: > > : In article > > > : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > > : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating > > : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating > > : > habits. > > : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? > > There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup > > with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when > > I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... -- Best Greg |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:30:30 PM UTC-5, Transition Zone wrote:
> > On Friday, †’ March 17, 1995 † at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stan Horwitz wrote: > > > > There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup > > with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when > > I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. > Bored A G A I N??? You really had to reach far back in the dusty time machine to find this 25 1/2-year-old thread to tell how much you relish ketchup. Good grief. |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > Best > Greg > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? |
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On 10/8/2020 7:03 PM, GM wrote:
> Transition Zone wrote: > >> On Friday, March 17, 1995 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stan Horwitz wrote: >>> Michelle Campbell ) wrote: >>> : In article > >>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating >>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating >>> : > habits. >>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? >>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup >>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when >>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... >> >> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had though. |
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> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > > Best > > Greg > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 And he's on LinkedIn: Stan Horwitz Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way... ;-) Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 "R.I.P. Ellen Prince October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." </> -- Best Greg |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/8/2020 7:03 PM, GM wrote: > > Transition Zone wrote: > > > >> On Friday, March 17, 1995 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stan Horwitz wrote: > >>> Michelle Campbell ) wrote: > >>> : In article > > >>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > >>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating > >>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating > >>> : > habits. > >>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? > >>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup > >>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when > >>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... > >> > >> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have > no idea what style doorknobs he had though. AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! -- Best Greg |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol.... > > > > > > Best > > > Greg > > > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > > > Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > > https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > > And he's on LinkedIn: > > Stan Horwitz > Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > > So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way... > > ;-) > > Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > > She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > > From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > > And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > > Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > > Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > > Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > > "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > > A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > > It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > > After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > > A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > > Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > > Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > > </> > -- > Best > Greg No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > Best > > > > Greg > > > > > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > > > > > > Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > > > > https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > > > > And he's on LinkedIn: > > > > Stan Horwitz > > Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > > > > So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way... > > > > ;-) > > > > Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > > > > She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > > > > From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > > > > And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > > > > Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > > > > Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > > > > Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > > > > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > > > > "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > > October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > > > > A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > > > > It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > > > > After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > > > > A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > > > > Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > > > > Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > > > > </> > > -- > > Best > > Greg > No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... -- Best Greg |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:32:10 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > > > > > > > > > Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > > > > > > https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > > > > > > And he's on LinkedIn: > > > > > > Stan Horwitz > > > Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > > > > > > So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way.... > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > > > > > > She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > > > > > > From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > > > > > > And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > > > > > > Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > > > > > > Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > > > > > > Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > > > > > > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > > > > > > "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > > > October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > > > > > > A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > > > > > > It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > > > > > > After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > > > > > > A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > > > > > > Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > > > > > > Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > > > > > > </> > > > -- > > > Best > > > Greg > > No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. > > > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > > -- > Best > Greg That's a totally awesome response. Thanks! |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 17:32:05 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote: >dsi1 wrote: > >> No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. > > >I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... Racist comment noted. dsi1 does not troll, bully or gossip, whereas you do all of that, including posting under other people's names. |
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On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating >>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating >>>>> : > habits. >>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? >>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup >>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when >>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... >>>> >>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. >>> >>> >>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... >>> >> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have >> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! > This was 2003 http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html |
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GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > >> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>> Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? >>> >>> >>> Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he >>> >>> https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 >>> >>> And he's on LinkedIn: >>> >>> Stan Horwitz >>> Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University >>> >>> So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way... >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... >>> >>> She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... >>> >>> From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) >>> >>> And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... >>> >>> Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... >>> >>> Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... >>> >>> Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: >>> >>> https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 >>> >>> "R.I.P. Ellen Prince >>> October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries >>> >>> A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: >>> >>> It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. >>> >>> After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. >>> >>> A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. >>> >>> Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. >>> >>> Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." >>> >>> </> >>> -- >>> Best >>> Greg >> No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. > > > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > When you're as full of shit as him, you can't help being a bit puffed up. |
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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 17:32:05 -0700 (PDT), GM > > wrote: > >> dsi1 wrote: >> >>> No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. >> >> >> I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > > Racist comment noted. dsi1 does not troll, bully or gossip, whereas > you do all of that, including posting under other people's names. > Butt sniffing noted. (and whining) Carry on Druce. |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >>>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating >>>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating >>>>>> : > habits. >>>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? >>>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup >>>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when >>>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... >>>>> >>>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... >>>> >>> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have >>> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >> >> >> AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >> >This was 2003 >http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white racist. |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 9:14:53 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> GM wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > >> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > >>>>> > >>>>> Best > >>>>> Greg > >>>>> > >>>> Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > >>> > >>> > >>> Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > >>> > >>> https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > >>> > >>> And he's on LinkedIn: > >>> > >>> Stan Horwitz > >>> Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > >>> > >>> So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way.... > >>> > >>> ;-) > >>> > >>> Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > >>> > >>> She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > >>> > >>> From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > >>> > >>> And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > >>> > >>> Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > >>> > >>> Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > >>> > >>> Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > >>> > >>> https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > >>> > >>> "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > >>> October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > >>> > >>> A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > >>> > >>> It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > >>> > >>> After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > >>> > >>> A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > >>> > >>> Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > >>> > >>> Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > >>> > >>> </> > >>> -- > >>> Best > >>> Greg > >> No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. > > > > > > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > > > When you're as full of shit as him, you can't help being a bit > puffed up. When his Diarrhea Dirigible EXPLODES, "you - know - who" will be on scene, sniffing furiously around...like an ant eater IN HEAT... "OH, the HUMANITY...!!!" -- Best Greg |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > >>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > >>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating > >>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating > >>>>> : > habits. > >>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? > >>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup > >>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when > >>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... > >>>> > >>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. > >>> > >>> > >>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > >>> > >> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have > >> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. > > > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! > > > This was 2003 > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html Cool! Stan was always a mensch... -- Best Greg |
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On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >>>>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>>>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating >>>>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating >>>>>>> : > habits. >>>>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? >>>>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup >>>>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when >>>>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... >>>>>> >>>>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... >>>>> >>>> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have >>>> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >>> >>> >>> AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >>> >> This was 2003 >> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white > racist. > I talk normally to black and brown racists too. The subject was Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you personal agenda. |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 23:46:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>>>>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating >>>>>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating >>>>>>>> : > habits. >>>>>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? >>>>>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup >>>>>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when >>>>>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... >>>>>> >>>>> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have >>>>> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >>>> >>>> >>>> AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >>>> >>> This was 2003 >>> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >> >> I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white >> racist. >> >I talk normally to black and brown racists too. Well, congratulations! |
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On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>>>>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange >>>>>>>> for eating >>>>>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about >>>>>>>> strange eating >>>>>>>> : > habits. >>>>>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? >>>>>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to >>>>>>>> eat Ketchup >>>>>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two >>>>>>>> times when >>>>>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also >>>>>>> go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in >>>>>>> elementary school. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, >>>>>> lol... >>>>>> >>>>> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have >>>>> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >>>> >>>> >>>> AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >>>> >>> This was 2003 >>> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >> >> I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white >> racist. >> > I talk normally to black and brown racists too.Â* The subject was Stan, > subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to do with race > but seems you want to escalate it for you personal agenda. Why are you surprised? Jill |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 8:27:51 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > Best > > > > Greg > > > > > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > > > > > > Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > > > > https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > > > > And he's on LinkedIn: > > > > Stan Horwitz > > Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > > > > So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way... > > > > ;-) > > > > Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > > > > She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > > > > From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > > > > And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > > > > Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > > > > Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > > > > Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > > > > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > > > > "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > > October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > > > > A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > > > > It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > > > > After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > > > > A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > > > > Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > > > > Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > > > > </> > > -- > > Best > > Greg > No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Nothing about enlightening people, places or experiences anymore, just housekeeping, drama and looking for excuses to mention facebook or to be just as obscene as possible. |
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: > >>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: > > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > >>>>>>>>: > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange > for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to > talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. > > > > > > > > > : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat with > > > > > > > > > ketchup? There are lots of things I don't eat > > > > > > > > > Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with any > > > > > > > > > kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or > > > > > > > > > two times when I was surely tempted to change that > > > > > > > > > trend (lousy food)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French > > > > > > > > fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they > > > > > > > > served back in elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ > > > > > > > years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his > > > > > > thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! > > > > > > > > > This was 2003 > > > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > > > > > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white > > > racist. > > > > > I talk normally to black and brown racists too.Â* The subject was > > Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to > > do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you personal > > agenda. > > Why are you surprised? > > Jill What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2020 17:14:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>jmcquown wrote: > >> On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: >> >>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >> > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >> >>>>>>>>: > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange >> for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to >> talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. >> > > > > > > > > : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat with >> > > > > > > > > ketchup? There are lots of things I don't eat >> > > > > > > > > Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with any >> > > > > > > > > kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or >> > > > > > > > > two times when I was surely tempted to change that >> > > > > > > > > trend (lousy food)... >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French >> > > > > > > > fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they >> > > > > > > > served back in elementary school. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ >> > > > > > > years ago, lol... >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his >> > > > > > thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >> > > > > >> > > > This was 2003 >> > > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >> > > >> > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white >> > > racist. >> > > >> > I talk normally to black and brown racists too.Â* The subject was >> > Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to >> > do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you personal >> > agenda. >> >> Why are you surprised? >> >> Jill > >What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? Don't even try, cshenk. |
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cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: > > > On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: > > >>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: > > > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > > >>>>>>>>: > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange > > for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to > > talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. > > > > > > > > > > : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat with > > > > > > > > > > ketchup? There are lots of things I don't eat > > > > > > > > > > Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with any > > > > > > > > > > kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or > > > > > > > > > > two times when I was surely tempted to change that > > > > > > > > > > trend (lousy food)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French > > > > > > > > > fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they > > > > > > > > > served back in elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ > > > > > > > > years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his > > > > > > > thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > This was 2003 > > > > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > > > > > > > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white > > > > racist. > > > > > > > I talk normally to black and brown racists too. The subject was > > > Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to > > > do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you personal > > > agenda. > > > > Why are you surprised? > > > > Jill > What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? *Nothing*...Pwincess Bwuthie here was referring to Ed and I..."she" thinks that Ed and I are "racist"...Jill's comment refers to that... <chuckle> -- Best Greg |
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote: >cshenk wrote: > >> jmcquown wrote: >> >> > On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > > On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: >> > >>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >> > > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >> > >>>>>>>>: > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange >> > for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to >> > talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. >> > > > > > > > > > : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat with >> > > > > > > > > > ketchup? There are lots of things I don't eat >> > > > > > > > > > Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with any >> > > > > > > > > > kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or >> > > > > > > > > > two times when I was surely tempted to change that >> > > > > > > > > > trend (lousy food)... >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French >> > > > > > > > > fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they >> > > > > > > > > served back in elementary school. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ >> > > > > > > > years ago, lol... >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his >> > > > > > > thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >> > > > > > >> > > > > This was 2003 >> > > > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >> > > > >> > > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white >> > > > racist. >> > > > >> > > I talk normally to black and brown racists too. The subject was >> > > Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to >> > > do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you personal >> > > agenda. >> > >> > Why are you surprised? >> > >> > Jill >> What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? > > >*Nothing*...Pwincess Bwuthie here was referring to Ed and I..."she" thinks that Ed and I are "racist"...Jill's comment refers to that... I don't think anybody doubts that Greg Sorrow's a racist. Apparently, white American men don't even raise an eyebrow at that. One of the little cultural differences. "Good morning Adolf, would you like a cup of tea?" |
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On 10/9/2020 6:14 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: > >> On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: >>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: >>>>>>>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange >> for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to >> talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. >>>>>>>>>> : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat with >>>>>>>>>> ketchup? There are lots of things I don't eat >>>>>>>>>> Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with any >>>>>>>>>> kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or >>>>>>>>>> two times when I was surely tempted to change that >>>>>>>>>> trend (lousy food)... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French >>>>>>>>> fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they >>>>>>>>> served back in elementary school. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ >>>>>>>> years ago, lol... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his >>>>>>> thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >>>>>> >>>>> This was 2003 >>>>> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >>>> >>>> I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white >>>> racist. >>>> >>> I talk normally to black and brown racists too.Â* The subject was >>> Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything to >>> do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you personal >>> agenda. >> >> Why are you surprised? >> >> Jill > > What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? > Not a thing. Just the usual diversion which never has any context. Jill |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 10:24:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > >On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: > >> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > >>>>>> : (Stan Horwitz) writes: > >>>>>> : > Being as though most people think that I am a bit strange for eating > >>>>>> : > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am no one to talk about strange eating > >>>>>> : > habits. > >>>>>> : Stan, darling, is there *anything* you don't eat with ketchup? > >>>>>> There are lots of things I don't eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup > >>>>>> with any kind of Chinese food dish although there was one or two times when > >>>>>> I was surely tempted to change that trend (lousy food)... > >>>>> > >>>>> I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. French fries also go good with those steamed soy burgers they served back in elementary school. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > >>>> > >>> OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his thing. I have > >>> no idea what style doorknobs he had though. > >> > >> > >> AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! > >> > >This was 2003 > >http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a white > racist. Everyone talks to them normally, because they're experts at hiding it (except when trying to kidnap government officials). |
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/9/2020 6:14 PM, cshenk wrote: > > jmcquown wrote: > > > > > On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: > > > > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : (Stan Horwitz) > > > > > > > > > > > writes: > >>>>>>>>>>: > Being as though most people think that I am a bit > strange >>for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am > no one to >>talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. > > > > > > > > > > > : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat > > > > > > > > > > > with ketchup? There are lots of things I don't > > > > > > > > > > > eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with > > > > > > > > > > > any kind of Chinese food dish although there was > > > > > > > > > > > one or two times when I was surely tempted to > > > > > > > > > > > change that trend (lousy food)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. > > > > > > > > > > French fries also go good with those steamed soy > > > > > > > > > > burgers they served back in elementary school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ > > > > > > > > > years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his > > > > > > > > thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was 2003 > > > > > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > > > > > > > > > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a > > > > > white racist. > > > > > > > > > I talk normally to black and brown racists too.Â* The subject was > > > > Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything > > > > to do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you > > > > personal agenda. > > > > > > Why are you surprised? > > > > > > Jill > > > > What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? > > > Not a thing. Just the usual diversion which never has any context. > > Jill Yup. We got some crazy folks here. I just omitted one from my view who is universally worthless for any discussion. |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2020 20:42:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>jmcquown wrote: > >> On 10/9/2020 6:14 PM, cshenk wrote: >> > jmcquown wrote: >> > >> > > On 10/8/2020 11:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > > > On 10/8/2020 10:24 PM, Bruce wrote: >> > > > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 22:01:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 10/8/2020 8:12 PM, GM wrote: >> > > > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > : (Stan Horwitz) >> > > > > > > > > > > writes: >> >>>>>>>>>>: > Being as though most people think that I am a bit >> strange >>for eating >>>>>>>>: > chocolate pudding with Ketchup, I am >> no one to >>talk about strange eating >>>>>>>>: > habits. >> > > > > > > > > > > : Stan, darling, is there anything you don't eat >> > > > > > > > > > > with ketchup? There are lots of things I don't >> > > > > > > > > > > eat Ketchup with. I have yet to eat Ketchup with >> > > > > > > > > > > any kind of Chinese food dish although there was >> > > > > > > > > > > one or two times when I was surely tempted to >> > > > > > > > > > > change that trend (lousy food)... >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I like ketchupy french fries with chinese food. >> > > > > > > > > > French fries also go good with those steamed soy >> > > > > > > > > > burgers they served back in elementary school. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ >> > > > > > > > > years ago, lol... >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > OMG, Stan was a regular here back then. Ketchup was his >> > > > > > > > thing. I have no idea what style doorknobs he had >> > > > > > > > though. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > AH, I remember his penchant for ketchup now...!!! >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > This was 2003 >> > > > > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >> > > > > >> > > > > I notice how American white men keep talking normally to a >> > > > > white racist. >> > > > > >> > > > I talk normally to black and brown racists too.Â* The subject was >> > > > Stan, subject of possible interest to many here. Not anything >> > > > to do with race but seems you want to escalate it for you >> > > > personal agenda. >> > > >> > > Why are you surprised? >> > > >> > > Jill >> > >> > What the hell does Stan have to do with racist? >> > >> Not a thing. Just the usual diversion which never has any context. >> >> Jill > >Yup. We got some crazy folks here. I just omitted one from my view >who is universally worthless for any discussion. cshenk, can you tell us who are in your killfile so I can put them in mine as well? |
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On 2020 Oct 8, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article >): > This was 2003 > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html I seem to remember that Stan and Andy met once for lunch. They took a picture of themselves looking at a river. The picture of them was from the back. I do not stand by this memory. |
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Leo wrote:
> > On 2020 Oct 8, , Ed Pawlowski wrote > (in article >): > > > This was 2003 > > http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > > I seem to remember that Stan and Andy met once for lunch. They took a picture > of themselves looking at a river. The picture of them was from the back. I do > not stand by this memory. Probably right. Andy never showed his face, only his butt. I always guessed that he was a "witness protection plan" fellow and the bad guys finally caught up with him that New Year's Eve. |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 7:32:10 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > > > > > > > > > Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > > > > > > https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > > > > > > And he's on LinkedIn: > > > > > > Stan Horwitz > > > Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > > > > > > So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way.... > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > > > > > > She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > > > > > > From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > > > > > > And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > > > > > > Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > > > > > > Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > > > > > > Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > > > > > > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > > > > > > "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > > > October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > > > > > > A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > > > > > > It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > > > > > > After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > > > > > > A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > > > > > > Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > > > > > > Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > > > > > > </> > > > -- > > > Best > > > Greg > > No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > Greg, you are piece of ****ing shit for using a phrase like "Slant Eyes." You deserve to have your dick cut off and shoved up your ass. You are a true piece of shit, and anyone who defends you is a piece of shit. > -- > Best > Greg --Bryan |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 15:02:25 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote: >On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 7:32:10 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: >> I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... >> >Greg, you are piece of ****ing shit for using a phrase like "Slant Eyes." >You deserve to have your dick cut off and shoved up your ass. You are >a true piece of shit, and anyone who defends you is a piece of shit. Having experienced in RFC how much racism there is among American white men, I understand the BLM movement better. |
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wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 7:32:10 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:04:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, I remember Stan Horwitz from rec.travel.air 20+ years ago, lol... > > > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > Is he still alive or is Transition Zone replying to a corpse? > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan is still extant, apparently. he is on the faculty roster he > > > > > > > > https://its.temple.edu/computer-serv...artment?page=4 > > > > > > > > And he's on LinkedIn: > > > > > > > > Stan Horwitz > > > > Data Protection Specialist and Systems Manager at Temple University > > > > > > > > So good for Stan! He was always a bit "pedantic", but in a good way.... > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > Another rec.travel.air peep, and also worked at Temple and knew Stan, was Ellen Prince, a linguist. She was very smart, funny and a character. She was *very* pro - smoking and would try to obtain all of her cigs from Australia, where there are/were gruesome anti - smoking labels on tobacco (like pix of poor souls with diseased jawbones, etc.)...she had a "morbid" sense of humor, ya might say... > > > > > > > > She HATED that she could not smoke in - flight, and by 2000 or so when she flew internationally she flew Aeroflot Russian Airlines 'cuz they still allowed smoking. If she went to Paris or anywhere else in Europe/Asia she'd fly via Aeroflot from JFK, transit in Moscow, and then another Aeroflot flight to Paris or London or wherever. IIRC she once attended a seminar in Cuba, and instead of flying on one of the US charters or via Canada to Havana, she FLEW FROM JFK TO MOSCOW on Aeroflot, transited in Moscow for another Aeroflot flight to HAVANA...and thence BACK TO THE US via Moscow...I think she did Tokyo that way, too... > > > > > > > > From watching John Waters movies, I was always fascinated by the "Baltimore accent" that many of his actors had. We exchanged some emails about this, she was very kind and helpful - and also funny as hell; she adored Woody Allen, knew a lot about car repair, and raised roses. A true "Renaissance Woman"...!!! And despite me being on WebTV at the time, she was still very nice to me ;-) > > > > > > > > And her use of Yiddish cracked me up... > > > > > > > > Ob food, Ellen, from Brooklyn, said that "Jewish women who have any money DO NOT cook!" She and her banker hubby lived in Rittenhouse Square in a nice townhouse, the range had been installed years earlier and it was still in in its mint "factory wrapping", it had not once been used. EVERY meal was eaten out...in the fridge they kept champagne, lol... > > > > > > > > Those were the types of folks that used to be on Usenet... > > > > > > > > Ellen, alas, has vamoosed from this mortal coil, expiring from - what else!? - lung cancer: > > > > > > > > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2740 > > > > > > > > "R.I.P. Ellen Prince > > > > October 27, 2010 @ 6:09 pm · Filed by Mark Liberman under Obituaries > > > > > > > > A note from the Penn Linguistics Department, written by Gillian Sankoff and Tony Kroch: > > > > > > > > It is with great sadness that we announce the death of our colleague Ellen F. Prince. Ellen died peacefully at home in Philadelphia on Sunday, October 24, 2010 after a long battle with cancer. > > > > > > > > After earning her doctorate in linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania in 1974, Ellen joined the faculty of the Penn Linguistics Department in the same year. She taught here until her retirement in 2005 and served as chair of our department from 1993 to 1997. Ellen was also active in the affairs of the Linguistic Society of America, serving on the executive committee and in many other capacities. She was noted for her interdisciplinary perspective and held a secondary appointment in Penn's Computer and Information Sciences Department. Among her many honors were the Presidency of the Linguistic Society of America in 2008 and election as a fellow of the AAAS in 2009. > > > > > > > > A pioneer in linguistic pragmatics, Ellen worked on her own and with many colleagues and students on various aspects of the subject. Several of her incisive and tightly argued papers became classics in the field. She is perhaps best known for her typology of information statuses in discourse, based on the study of naturally-occurring data; but she also devoted major efforts to the study of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions, including the various species of cleft and left-periphery constructions, including topicalization and left-dislocation. She had a particular interest in Yiddish and used her knowledge of that language to do ground-breaking work on the cross-linguistic comparison of the pragmatic functions of syntactic constructions. In later years, she continued her work on the referential status of noun phrases in the framework of centering theory, as developed by colleagues Aravind Joshi, Scott Weinstein and Barbara Grosz. > > > > > > > > Ellen was an inspirational and caring teacher, imparting high intellectual standards while at the same time providing solid support and mentoring to her many students. We missed her acutely when she retired from our department; she will be even more sorely missed now and for years to come. > > > > > > > > Friends, colleagues and students who would like to remember Ellen Prince by making a charitable donation are asked to donate to the American Lung Association..." > > > > > > > > </> > > > > -- > > > > Best > > > > Greg > > > No doubt these people would be disappointed at how far this group has descended into trolling, bullying, and gossiping. Yoose guys don't seem to mind though. > > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > > > Greg, you are piece of ****ing shit for using a phrase like "Slant Eyes." > You deserve to have your dick cut off and shoved up your ass. You are > a true piece of shit, and anyone who defends you is a piece of shit. Time for you to put down the giggle juice, boy...you are ranting again...you want to be sober on Monday... ;-P -- Best Greg |
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On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 5:02:30 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 7:32:10 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: .... > > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > > > Greg, you are piece of ****ing shit for using a phrase like "Slant Eyes." > You deserve to have your dick cut off and shoved up your ass. You are > a true piece of shit, and anyone who defends you is a piece of shit. > > -- > > Best > > Greg > > --Bryan One thing Bryan and I agree on 100% GM is a waste of perfectly good DNA! John Kuthe... |
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John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 5:02:30 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 7:32:10 PM UTC-5, GM wrote: > ... > > > I wouldn't get all puffed up if I were you, Slant Eyes, you are amongst the ***very*** worst of posters here in those respects... > > > > > Greg, you are piece of ****ing shit for using a phrase like "Slant Eyes." > > You deserve to have your dick cut off and shoved up your ass. You are > > a true piece of shit, and anyone who defends you is a piece of shit. > > > -- > > > Best > > > Greg > > > > --Bryan > One thing Bryan and I agree on 100% > > GM is a waste of perfectly good DNA! > John, is it not true that when you and Bryan were partners, that his nick for you was "Candy Pants"...??? -- Best Greg |
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On 10/10/2020 7:59 AM, Gary wrote:
> Leo wrote: >> >> On 2020 Oct 8, , Ed Pawlowski wrote >> (in article >): >> >>> This was 2003 >>> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >> >> I seem to remember that Stan and Andy met once for lunch. They took a picture >> of themselves looking at a river. The picture of them was from the back. I do >> not stand by this memory. > > Probably right. Andy never showed his face, only his butt. > > I always guessed that he was a "witness protection plan" fellow > and the bad guys finally caught up with him that New Year's Eve. > Andy was mentally ill. Jill |
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On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 4:50:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 10/10/2020 7:59 AM, Gary wrote: > > Leo wrote: > >> > >> On 2020 Oct 8, , Ed Pawlowski wrote > >> (in article >): > >> > >>> This was 2003 > >>> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html > >> > >> I seem to remember that Stan and Andy met once for lunch. They took a picture > >> of themselves looking at a river. The picture of them was from the back. I do > >> not stand by this memory. > > > > Probably right. Andy never showed his face, only his butt. > > > > I always guessed that he was a "witness protection plan" fellow > > and the bad guys finally caught up with him that New Year's Eve. > > > Andy was mentally ill. He was, but he crossed the line with that "No Legs Murphy" shit. Blake was no friend of mine, but... Then there's that worthless turd, Greg Morrow, who used the phrase, "Slant Eyes." That's not OK. A person's ethnicity and culture are more or less kind of fair game, if they're relevant to the topic, but racial characteristics are never OK. And to Jebus, who suggested that my wife of all people had named her Halloween dessert "Spooktacular," out of racial animus, I want to tell you this. When I told her about that, she had never known of the pejorative, "spook." She, unlike me, didn't grow up with racism, and has been an active anti-racist since long before it was popular. She doesn't have a bigoted bone in her body. She's been a children's librarian in the community where we live since 1992, and when she started her job at a library where some of the older White women who worked there had double standards, letting White patrons check out books when they had outstanding fines, but not extending the same exceptions to Black patrons, and she was having none of that. The library director at the time let it go on, and she risked her job by demanding that the practice had to stop. Oh, but it went much further. When the book, *King and King* came out, she put it into the children's collection, and has put up with outright persecution by social conservatives for decades, including incidents that included vandalism and ceaseless harassment. Others in the community objected to her buying Bible stories for children, as she had more of them in her collection than most other libraries in St. Louis County, but she was buying well written books that were requested by patrons, without regard to ideology. That's what librarians are supposed to do, and she did it, and continues to do it. However one feels about *me*, Betsy is far beyond reproach. Anyone who attacks her here should know that she's gotten a lot worse, and her personal integrity has never wavered. The most you could justifiably question is how such a saintly woman could possibly be married to a guy like me, and I cannot, nor will not, comment upon that. > > Jill --Bryan |
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On 10/12/2020 7:53 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 4:50:33 PM UTC-5, wrote: >> On 10/10/2020 7:59 AM, Gary wrote: >>> Leo wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2020 Oct 8, , Ed Pawlowski wrote >>>> (in article >): >>>> >>>>> This was 2003 >>>>> http://mlmug.org/MoMStan.html >>>> >>>> I seem to remember that Stan and Andy met once for lunch. They took a picture >>>> of themselves looking at a river. The picture of them was from the back. I do >>>> not stand by this memory. >>> >>> Probably right. Andy never showed his face, only his butt. >>> >>> I always guessed that he was a "witness protection plan" fellow >>> and the bad guys finally caught up with him that New Year's Eve. >>> >> Andy was mentally ill. > > He was, but he crossed the line with that "No Legs Murphy" shit. > Blake was no friend of mine, but... Then there's that worthless > turd, Greg Morrow, who used the phrase, "Slant Eyes." That's not > OK. A person's ethnicity and culture are more or less kind of fair > game, if they're relevant to the topic, but racial characteristics are > never OK. And to Jebus, who suggested that my wife of all > people had named her Halloween dessert "Spooktacular," out of > racial animus, I want to tell you this. When I told her about that, > she had never known of the pejorative, "spook." She, unlike me, > didn't grow up with racism, and has been an active anti-racist > since long before it was popular. She doesn't have a bigoted > bone in her body. Growing up, I heard the term "spook" used for Halloween as well as a racial comment. Its all in the mind and how you want to interpret. This time of year and being a treat, there is only one logical conclusion. Unless you like to make racists comments. |
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