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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
> > > corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
> > > The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
> > > you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>

>
> No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning. His entire post was
> sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
> Beautiful health plan. Beautiful wall. Beautiful military weapons.
> Beautiful coal.


OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.

Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
things have become after 4 years of Biden.
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On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
> > > > corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
> > > > The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
> > > > you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>

> >
> > No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning. His entire post was
> > sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
> > Beautiful health plan. Beautiful wall. Beautiful military weapons.
> > Beautiful coal.

> OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.
>
> Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
> things have become after 4 years of Biden.


I personally don't expect that much of him. Governing the U.S. is like
trying to push a string. Some things that people expect him to do are
state or local matters. And the citizenry won't change.

I'll settle for the things he _can_ affect. Foreign policy, environmental
protection, that kind of thing.

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 04:06:03 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Nov 2, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> In Europe, being right-wing doesn't necessarily mean you have one
>> tooth and one brain cell. Why is this different in the US? (sorry Leo)

>
>I can take it! Europe has rotted for many more centuries than we have. The
>results of which are €œyou€. Then, even they ran you off. Indeed, I really
>am sorry


But Europe and Australia/NZ are doing far better than the US at the
moment. In the sense of reasonable governments and absence of that
waft of civil war.
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 03:54:20 -0800, Leo >
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>On 2020 Nov 2, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Before a scientific hypothesis is confirmed, those "weasel words" are entirely
>> appropriate.
>>
>> "We were only able to test 25 patients, but this therapy may prove useful in
>> the
>> treatment of stumbling gonad disease. Further research is warranted."

>
>I have many hypotheses that I could sell twenty five people on if I worked
>hard enough. Further research would be warranted. I want a grant!


Fear and distrust of science are normally traits of religious
fundamentalists. Apparently, extreme political views can also put you
in that category, on both sides of the spectrum.
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 07:40:50 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
>> corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>

>
>> The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
>> you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>

>
>Biden will probably win. Let's talk about this 4 years from
>now and discuss how he transformed the USA into the
>"most beautiful thing we ever saw."
>
>Good luck with that.


Politics aside, I think you need a less divisive president.


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On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 08:34:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> > > dsi1 wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
>> > > > corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
>> > > > The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
>> > > > you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>
>> >
>> > No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning. His entire post was
>> > sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
>> > Beautiful health plan. Beautiful wall. Beautiful military weapons.
>> > Beautiful coal.

>> OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.
>>
>> Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
>> things have become after 4 years of Biden.

>
>I personally don't expect that much of him. Governing the U.S. is like
>trying to push a string. Some things that people expect him to do are
>state or local matters. And the citizenry won't change.
>
>I'll settle for the things he _can_ affect. Foreign policy, environmental
>protection, that kind of thing.


No implicit or explicit condoning of white supremacists.
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On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 12:25:20 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 03:54:20 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
> >On 2020 Nov 2, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> Before a scientific hypothesis is confirmed, those "weasel words" are entirely
> >> appropriate.
> >>
> >> "We were only able to test 25 patients, but this therapy may prove useful in
> >> the
> >> treatment of stumbling gonad disease. Further research is warranted."

> >
> >I have many hypotheses that I could sell twenty five people on if I worked
> >hard enough. Further research would be warranted. I want a grant!

> Fear and distrust of science are normally traits of religious
> fundamentalists. Apparently, extreme political views can also put you
> in that category, on both sides of the spectrum.


Speaking of religious fundies. Hahahahahahahaha!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/liberty-u...games-students

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On 11/2/2020 10:49 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
>>>> corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
>>>> The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
>>>> you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>

>>
>> No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning. His entire post was
>> sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
>> Beautiful health plan. Beautiful wall. Beautiful military weapons.
>> Beautiful coal.

>
> OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.
>
> Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
> things have become after 4 years of Biden.
>


Want a good laugh? Read the Republican Party Platform. Not only do
they not follow it but often the opposite.
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/docs...tform_2020.pdf

Be sure to read page 8 about reducing Federal Dept. Best laugh of the day.

Page 17 talks about abundant harvest. Yeah, we give farmer's billions
because they cannot sell their crops.

Page 23 Balance the Budget. Yeah that is not working so well is it?

Page 27 Term Limits. If they want limits, why is Graham and McConnell
and others still there?

Page 29 Americans in the Territories He wanted to sell Puerto Rico
and buy Greenland.

Don't forget Page 49. Renewing the European Alliance
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On 2020-11-02 2:42 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2020 10:49 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
>>>>> corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
>>>>> The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
>>>>> you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>
>>>
>>> No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning.Â* His entire post was
>>> sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
>>> Beautiful health plan.Â* Beautiful wall.Â* Beautiful military weapons.
>>> Beautiful coal.

>>
>> OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.
>>
>> Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
>> things have become after 4 years of Biden.
>>

>
> Want a good laugh?Â* Read the Republican Party Platform.Â* Not only do
> they not follow it but often the opposite.
> https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/docs...tform_2020.pdf
>
> Be sure to read page 8 about reducing Federal Dept.Â* Best laugh of the day.
>
> Page 17 talks about abundant harvest.Â* Yeah, we give farmer's billions
> because they cannot sell their crops.


Then we wanted to renegotiate NAFTA so that American farmers and dairies
can dump their surplus up here.



> Page 23Â* Balance the Budget.Â* Yeah that is not working so well is it?


It could be worse. You could have Trudeau, who is handing our money
like it grows on trees.


>
> Page 27Â* Term Limits.Â* If they want limits, why is Graham and McConnell
> and others still there?


The limits are for other people.

>
> Page 29Â* Americans in the TerritoriesÂ*Â* He wanted to sell Puerto Rico
> and buy Greenland.


Why not just give it back?


> Don't forget Page 49.Â* Renewing the European Alliance


He has ****ed on all his friends and Allies an reneged on a lot of
deals. Other countries and their leaders don't trust him.

Lucky for him he has the ignorant rednecks who believe his bullshit.


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Gary wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
> > > > corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
> > > > The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
> > > > you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>

> >
> > No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning. His entire post was
> > sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
> > Beautiful health plan. Beautiful wall. Beautiful military weapons.
> > Beautiful coal.

>
> OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.
>
> Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
> things have become after 4 years of Biden.


It's a train wreck.


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On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:42:09 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> > > dsi1 wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > All we need is 4 more years and America will be totally
>> > > > corrupt. <talking about Trump winning>
>> > > > The new great America will be the most beautiful thing
>> > > > you ever saw! <talking about Biden winning>
>> >
>> > No, he wasn't talking about Biden winning. His entire post was
>> > sarcasm about Trump, who always calls things "beautiful".
>> > Beautiful health plan. Beautiful wall. Beautiful military weapons.
>> > Beautiful coal.

>>
>> OK, I agree. I missed it. And yes, Trump always talks like that.
>>
>> Anyway, I'll stand with my final comment. Let's see how great
>> things have become after 4 years of Biden.

>
>It's a train wreck.


cshenk and politics
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On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 10:58:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from
> > > > > the
> > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that
> > > > > I
> > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech
> > > > > goulash,
> > > > > svÃ*čková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and
> > > > > I get
> > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it
> > > > > myself,
> > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken
> > > > > which
> > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned
> > > > > good
> > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > > >
> > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any
> > > > > part
> > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot
> > > > > gnocchi
> > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of
> > > > > the
> > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper
> > > > > than
> > > > > water.
> > > > >
> > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for
> > > > finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty
> > > > much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If
> > > > we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The
> > > > first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place
> > > > called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it
> > > > was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since
> > > > she was raised on Korean food.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > >
> > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home?
> > > It's different if
> > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a
> > > wasted opportunity to
> > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as
> > > well just
> > > stay at home.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton

> >
> > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the
> > mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American
> > cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff
> > that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and
> > chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods
> > without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but
> > I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > East coast is great That is where I grew up We now live in East
> > coast Scotland))

> I was looking at the info on East Riding. It's a lovely area. It's considerably larger than the rock I live on and it's just a small part of Yorkshire. That's amazing. Well, to me it is, anyway. Curiously, East Riding has 957 sq. miles. The island of Oahu is 597 sq. miles.


I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.
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On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 10:58:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech
> > > > > > goulash,
> > > > > > svÃ*čková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and
> > > > > > I get
> > > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it
> > > > > > myself,
> > > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot
> > > > > > gnocchi
> > > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > water.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for
> > > > > finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty
> > > > > much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If
> > > > > we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The
> > > > > first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place
> > > > > called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it
> > > > > was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since
> > > > > she was raised on Korean food.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > > >
> > > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home?
> > > > It's different if
> > > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a
> > > > wasted opportunity to
> > > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as
> > > > well just
> > > > stay at home.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the
> > > mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American
> > > cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff
> > > that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and
> > > chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods
> > > without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but
> > > I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > East coast is great That is where I grew up We now live in East
> > > coast Scotland))

> > I was looking at the info on East Riding. It's a lovely area. It's considerably larger than the rock I live on and it's just a small part of Yorkshire. That's amazing. Well, to me it is, anyway. Curiously, East Riding has 957 sq. miles. The island of Oahu is 597 sq. miles.

>
> I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.


It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.
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On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 10:58:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech
> > > > > > > goulash,
> > > > > > > svÃ*čková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and
> > > > > > > I get
> > > > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it
> > > > > > > myself,
> > > > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any
> > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot
> > > > > > > gnocchi
> > > > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > water.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for
> > > > > > finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty
> > > > > > much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If
> > > > > > we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The
> > > > > > first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place
> > > > > > called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it
> > > > > > was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since
> > > > > > she was raised on Korean food.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > > > >
> > > > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home?
> > > > > It's different if
> > > > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a
> > > > > wasted opportunity to
> > > > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as
> > > > > well just
> > > > > stay at home.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the
> > > > mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American
> > > > cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff
> > > > that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and
> > > > chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods
> > > > without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but
> > > > I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > East coast is great That is where I grew up We now live in East
> > > > coast Scotland))
> > > I was looking at the info on East Riding. It's a lovely area. It's considerably larger than the rock I live on and it's just a small part of Yorkshire. That's amazing. Well, to me it is, anyway. Curiously, East Riding has 957 sq. miles. The island of Oahu is 597 sq. miles.

> >
> > I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.

> It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.


I've heard its a lot like on a clear day when you can see Folkstone in the UK from Calais in France.
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> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 10:58:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech
> > > > > > > > goulash,
> > > > > > > > svÃ*čková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and
> > > > > > > > I get
> > > > > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it
> > > > > > > > myself,
> > > > > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any
> > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot
> > > > > > > > gnocchi
> > > > > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > water.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for
> > > > > > > finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty
> > > > > > > much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If
> > > > > > > we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The
> > > > > > > first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place
> > > > > > > called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it
> > > > > > > was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since
> > > > > > > she was raised on Korean food.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home?
> > > > > > It's different if
> > > > > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a
> > > > > > wasted opportunity to
> > > > > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as
> > > > > > well just
> > > > > > stay at home.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the
> > > > > mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American
> > > > > cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff
> > > > > that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and
> > > > > chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods
> > > > > without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but
> > > > > I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > > >
> > > > > East coast is great That is where I grew up We now live in East
> > > > > coast Scotland))
> > > > I was looking at the info on East Riding. It's a lovely area. It's considerably larger than the rock I live on and it's just a small part of Yorkshire. That's amazing. Well, to me it is, anyway. Curiously, East Riding has 957 sq. miles. The island of Oahu is 597 sq. miles.
> > >
> > > I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.

> > It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.

> I've heard its a lot like on a clear day when you can see Folkstone in the UK from Calais in France.


Here's a photo. From Calais, France, you can see Dover in the UK:

-- https://www.quora.com/When-youre-in-...seeing-England


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>On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>> > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 10:58:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:


>> > > > East coast is great That is where I grew up We now live in East
>> > > > coast Scotland))
>> > > I was looking at the info on East Riding. It's a lovely area. It's considerably larger than the rock I live on and it's just a small part of Yorkshire. That's amazing. Well, to me it is, anyway. Curiously, East Riding has 957 sq. miles. The island of Oahu is 597 sq. miles.
>> >
>> > I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.

>> It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.

>

I watched a movie about Father Damien in Moloka'i. I only watched the
first 45 minutes. It was a decent movie but depressing.
>


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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:41:52 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 5:36:43 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

>
>> > On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:

>
>> > > I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.

>
>> > It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.

>> I've heard its a lot like on a clear day when you can see Folkstone in the UK from Calais in France.

>
>Here's a photo. From Calais, France, you can see Dover in the UK:
>
>-- https://www.quora.com/When-youre-in-...seeing-England
>

That's a big island off the French coast.
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Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:41:52 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 5:36:43 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:

>>
>>>>> I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.

>>
>>>> It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.
>>> I've heard its a lot like on a clear day when you can see Folkstone in the UK from Calais in France.

>>
>> Here's a photo. From Calais, France, you can see Dover in the UK:
>>
>> -- https://www.quora.com/When-youre-in-...seeing-England
>>

> That's a big island off the French coast.
>>

>


Too bad you are exiled to the British prison colony.


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Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:41:52 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 5:36:43 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.
> >>
> >>>> It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.
> >>> I've heard its a lot like on a clear day when you can see Folkstone in the UK from Calais in France.
> >>
> >> Here's a photo. From Calais, France, you can see Dover in the UK:
> >>
> >> -- https://www.quora.com/When-youre-in-...seeing-England
> >>

> > That's a big island off the French coast.
> >>

> >

> Too bad you are exiled to the British prison colony.



I said what I meant
I meant what I said
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Just bring me to bed.

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On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:42:37 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:55:38 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 10:58:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> > > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:

>
> >> > > > East coast is great That is where I grew up We now live in East
> >> > > > coast Scotland))
> >> > > I was looking at the info on East Riding. It's a lovely area. It's considerably larger than the rock I live on and it's just a small part of Yorkshire. That's amazing. Well, to me it is, anyway. Curiously, East Riding has 957 sq. miles. The island of Oahu is 597 sq. miles.
> >> >
> >> > I remember when I was there back in the early 2000's, you could see Moloka'i on a halfway clear day.
> >> It's so close! Of course, most people would rather see it across the ocean than step foot on it.

> >

> I watched a movie about Father Damien in Moloka'i. I only watched the
> first 45 minutes. It was a decent movie but depressing.
> >

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It's some pretty awful history alright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpR54iv5c0U


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Bruce wrote:
> I watched a movie about Father Damien in Moloka'i. I only watched the
> first 45 minutes. It was a decent movie but depressing.


I watched 2 very good movies this past week. Both true stories and
listed as Historical Biography.

1) "Hachi" Story about a man and his dog. People always cry when they
lose their pets (me too) but this was a twist. Story about a dog that
never got over his human friends death. It makes you think about life
and death and undying love. I won't tell the story but it's a good one
to watch. Left me teary-eyed at the end.

IMO, any movie that can invoke emotions like that is a good one.

2) "Maude" (or "Maudie").A Canadian movie about a crippled woman in
NewFoundland. Story about her life working for and living with a poor
fishmonger as a housekeeper. She liked to paint but her paintings were
very childlike and simplistic. Bright colors though.

She started out painting postcard size pictures but eventually started
doing slightly larger ones too.

Eventually, the paintings got popular and she brought in good money
selling them. Even, then, VP Nixon bought one.

I'll bet they all sell for a fortune these days. I need to google her
pics. I like them. Her name was Maud(e) Lewis.

In either case, both movies are true and a bit sad. If you watch either,
do keep watching after the movies end. As the credits are rolling, they
both show pics of the *real* dog and woman artist.







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On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 10:22:55 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>> I watched a movie about Father Damien in Moloka'i. I only watched the
>> first 45 minutes. It was a decent movie but depressing.

>
>I watched 2 very good movies this past week. Both true stories and
>listed as Historical Biography.
>
>1) "Hachi" Story about a man and his dog. People always cry when they
>lose their pets (me too) but this was a twist. Story about a dog that
>never got over his human friends death. It makes you think about life
>and death and undying love. I won't tell the story but it's a good one
>to watch. Left me teary-eyed at the end.
>
>IMO, any movie that can invoke emotions like that is a good one.


A rating of 8.1 in the IMDB is very high, for what that's worth of
course. Does Richard Gere look like a ferret or is it another rodent?
When I see him, I always feel there's a lettuce leaf missing from his
mouth.

>2) "Maude" (or "Maudie").A Canadian movie about a crippled woman in
>NewFoundland. Story about her life working for and living with a poor
>fishmonger as a housekeeper. She liked to paint but her paintings were
>very childlike and simplistic. Bright colors though.
>
>She started out painting postcard size pictures but eventually started
>doing slightly larger ones too.
>
>Eventually, the paintings got popular and she brought in good money
>selling them. Even, then, VP Nixon bought one.
>
>I'll bet they all sell for a fortune these days. I need to google her
>pics. I like them. Her name was Maud(e) Lewis.
>
>In either case, both movies are true and a bit sad. If you watch either,
>do keep watching after the movies end. As the credits are rolling, they
>both show pics of the *real* dog and woman artist.


7.6 in the IMDB, also fairly high and also for what that's worth.

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On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 5:23:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> 1) "Hachi" Story about a man and his dog. People always cry when they
> lose their pets (me too) but this was a twist. Story about a dog that
> never got over his human friends death. It makes you think about life
> and death and undying love. I won't tell the story but it's a good one
> to watch. Left me teary-eyed at the end.
>


Oddly enough, it's a true tale based on a cartoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3PWHxoT_E
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On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> > I watched a movie about Father Damien in Moloka'i. I only watched the
> > first 45 minutes. It was a decent movie but depressing.

> I watched 2 very good movies this past week. Both true stories and
> listed as Historical Biography.
>
> 1) "Hachi" Story about a man and his dog. People always cry when they
> lose their pets (me too) but this was a twist. Story about a dog that
> never got over his human friends death. It makes you think about life
> and death and undying love. I won't tell the story but it's a good one
> to watch. Left me teary-eyed at the end.
>
> IMO, any movie that can invoke emotions like that is a good one.
>
> 2) "Maude" (or "Maudie").A Canadian movie about a crippled woman in
> NewFoundland. Story about her life working for and living with a poor
> fishmonger as a housekeeper. She liked to paint but her paintings were
> very childlike and simplistic. Bright colors though.
>
> She started out painting postcard size pictures but eventually started
> doing slightly larger ones too.
>
> Eventually, the paintings got popular and she brought in good money
> selling them. Even, then, VP Nixon bought one.
>
> I'll bet they all sell for a fortune these days. I need to google her
> pics. I like them. Her name was Maud(e) Lewis.
>
> In either case, both movies are true and a bit sad. If you watch either,
> do keep watching after the movies end. As the credits are rolling, they
> both show pics of the *real* dog and woman artist.


Great! Too bad the people in rec.arts.tv don't know about all that instead.
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On 2/28/2021 1:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 5:23:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>
>> 1) "Hachi" Story about a man and his dog. People always cry when they
>> lose their pets (me too) but this was a twist. Story about a dog that
>> never got over his human friends death. It makes you think about life
>> and death and undying love. I won't tell the story but it's a good one
>> to watch. Left me teary-eyed at the end.
>>

>
> Oddly enough, it's a true tale based on a cartoon.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3PWHxoT_E
>


Oddly enough right back at you. Might have been a Japanese cartoon made
from the story, but the story was real.... A japanese professor and his dog.

Somewhere in Japan, they have a statue of the dog waiting outside that
train station. Google it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachi:_A_Dog's_Tale
------------------------------------------------------------------
The movie was based on the real Japanese Akita dog Hachiko, who was born
in Ōdate, Japan, in 1923. After the death of his owner, Ueno Hidesaburō
in 1925, Hachiko returned to the Shibuya train station the next day and
every day after that for the next nine years until he died in March
1935. A bronze statue of Hachiko is in front of the Shibuya train
station in his honor, in the spot where he waited. Hachikō is known in
Japanese as chÅ«ken Hachikō (å¿*犬ハチ公) "faithful dog Hachikō", hachi meaning
"eight" and kō meaning "affection."[4] The film ends with a text panel
summarizing the story of the real Hachiko, a photo of the dog and a shot
of the bronze statue. According to the movie's closing cards, the real
Hachiko died in March 1934, while the earlier movie, Hachikō Monogatari,
and other sources state that his actual death was on March 1935 (9 years
and 9 months after Professor Ueno's death).
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On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 2/28/2021 1:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 5:23:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> 1) "Hachi" Story about a man and his dog. People always cry when they
> >> lose their pets (me too) but this was a twist. Story about a dog that
> >> never got over his human friends death. It makes you think about life
> >> and death and undying love. I won't tell the story but it's a good one
> >> to watch. Left me teary-eyed at the end.
> >>

> >
> > Oddly enough, it's a true tale based on a cartoon.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3PWHxoT_E
> >

> Oddly enough right back at you. Might have been a Japanese cartoon made
> from the story, but the story was real.... A japanese professor and his dog.
>
> Somewhere in Japan, they have a statue of the dog waiting outside that
> train station. Google it.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachi:_A_Dog's_Tale
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> The movie was based on the real Japanese Akita dog Hachiko, who was born
> in Ōdate, Japan, in 1923. After the death of his owner, Ueno Hidesaburō
> in 1925, Hachiko returned to the Shibuya train station the next day and
> every day after that for the next nine years until he died in March
> 1935. A bronze statue of Hachiko is in front of the Shibuya train
> station in his honor, in the spot where he waited. Hachikō is known in
> Japanese as chÅ«ken Hachikō (å¿*犬ハチ公) "faithful dog Hachikō", hachi meaning
> "eight" and kō meaning "affection."[4] The film ends with a text panel
> summarizing the story of the real Hachiko, a photo of the dog and a shot
> of the bronze statue. According to the movie's closing cards, the real
> Hachiko died in March 1934, while the earlier movie, Hachikō Monogatari,
> and other sources state that his actual death was on March 1935 (9 years
> and 9 months after Professor Ueno's death).
> -------------------------------------------------------------------


My point was that the movie "Hachi" was probably inspired by a 2002 Futurama episode rather than an event that happened in Japan in the mid-thirties i..e., without Futurama, there would have been no Hachi.

"Ko" is a little word the Japanese like to tack on the the end of names as a term of affection. They also use "chan" in the same manner. It's something they'd do use for a child's or pet's name. A young Japanese woman might call you "Gary-chan." Men don't typically use this practice - it's too familiar.
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