On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 12:29:14 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:24:34 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 11:32:16 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>>
>> >> > > Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
>> >> > >
>> >> > And how would THAT even come up?
>>
>> >> True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
>> >> the subject of food at home never came up.
>> >
>> >"Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her meals
>> >and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>> >look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>> >believe her report."
>> >
>> >Honestly, you're getting as bad as Sheldon.
>> Also honestly: why? What's wrong with what you quoted?
>
>Nothing's wrong with it. Neither Gary nor Taxed and Spent seem to
>have bothered to read what Julie wrote, so I abstracted the pertinent
>sentences. Sheldon is famous for skimming just enough to spark
>one of his rants.

Oh sorry, I thought you were talking to Julie.

On 2020-10-30 1:00 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc., It seems to me that
> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that all by
> themselves.

Sex ed is probably a good idea for kids raised in families where stuff
like that is never discussed. OTOH, it should only be taught by people
who are capable of being honest about. My friend went to Catholic
schools and was disgusted by the priest who taught sex ed and told his
class that a girl can get pregnant by holding onto a boy's penis for 10
seconds.

On 2020-10-30 1:07 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:50:09 -0400, Dave Smith

>>
>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake mix???
>>
>> BULLSHIT !!!
>
> Julie's writing style has always been melodramatic; you know that.
> Just use your interpretive skills and all will be well.
>

I often use my interpretive skills on Julie's posts and interpret them
as lies.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:14:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-10-30 1:00 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
>> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc., It seems to me that
>> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that all by
>> themselves.
>
>Sex ed is probably a good idea for kids raised in families where stuff
>like that is never discussed. OTOH, it should only be taught by people
>who are capable of being honest about. My friend went to Catholic
>schools and was disgusted by the priest who taught sex ed and told his
>class that a girl can get pregnant by holding onto a boy's penis for 10
>seconds.

Are you saying that's not true?

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:38:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 02:24:52 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2020-10-29 10:43 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It wasn't a single incident. The post that I quoted was the first
>>>>> robbery.
>>>>
>>>> Which post was that?
>>>
>>> I believe was a reply to Jill. I'm not going back to find it. I quoted the
>>> post on the local Bothell FB group.
>>
>> Like a gullible sucker, I went back and checked. There is no such
>> quote from any facebook group.
>>
>> We all have to drink when Julie lies. And when dsi1 says "guess".
>
> And when Sqwertz says "horseradish".
>

And when Gruce sniffs an ass.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-10-30 1:00 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
>> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc.,** It seems to me that
>> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that
>> all by
>> themselves.
>
> Sex ed is probably a good idea for kids raised in families where
> stuff like that is never discussed.* OTOH, it should only be taught
> by people who are capable of being honest about. My friend went to
> Catholic schools and was disgusted by the priest who taught sex ed
> and told his class that a girl can get pregnant by holding onto a
> boy's penis for 10 seconds.

Hahaha ... They should have hired Popeye for the job!

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:49:27 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:

>> a girl can get pregnant by holding
>> onto a boy's penis for 10 seconds.
>
> Hahaha ... They should have hired Popeye for the job!

Yoose guise both know it's true. It depends quite a bit though on exactly
where she is holding it.

On 10/30/2020 10:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/30/2020 10:39 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list
>>>>>>>> her meals
>>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
>>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
>>>>>>>> home to
>>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
>>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>>> house.
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>>> here
>>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that.Â* We really do not eat
>>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
>>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>>> rarely
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>>
>>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
>>>
>>
>>
>> And how would THAT even come up?
>
> Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks? The
> audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
> a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.
>

No, I missed that. I am not sure I would allow my kid to tell others
what we eat at home. Next thing you know they will want to know if we
have guns.

If this happened when I was a kid, I would have made up a bunch of stuff.

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 4:07:07 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 10/30/2020 10:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 10/30/2020 10:39 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
> >>>>>>>>> late
> >>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
> >>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list
> >>>>>>>> her meals
> >>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
> >>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
> >>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
> >>>>>>>> molasses,
> >>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
> >>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
> >>>>>>>> home to
> >>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
> >>>>>>>> couldn't
> >>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
> >>>>>>>> *shrug*
> >>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
> >>>>>>> mix???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
> >>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
> >>>>>> house.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
> >>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
> >>>>> here
> >>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not eat
> >>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
> >>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
> >>>>> rarely
> >>>>> used.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
> >>>
> >>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> And how would THAT even come up?
> >
> > Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks? The
> > audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
> > a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.
> >
> No, I missed that.

In all fairness, it was in the midst of a great wad of logorrhea. I probably should
have been nicer to you and Gary. (Different post; not the one you replied to here.)

And when we were kids, stuff like that was none of our teachers' business, and they
knew it.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 4:07:07 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 10/30/2020 10:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> > Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks? The
>> > audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
>> > a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.
>> >
>> No, I missed that.
>
>In all fairness, it was in the midst of a great wad of logorrhea.

"pathologically excessive and often incoherent talkativeness or
wordiness that is characteristic especially of the manic phase of
bipolar disorder"

On 10/30/2020 1:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 4:07:07 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 10/30/2020 10:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2020 10:39 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list
>>>>>>>>>> her meals
>>>>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>>>>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
>>>>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
>>>>>>>>>> home to
>>>>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
>>>>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>>>>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not eat
>>>>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
>>>>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>>>>> rarely
>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And how would THAT even come up?
>>>
>>> Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks? The
>>> audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
>>> a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.
>>>
>> No, I missed that.
>
> In all fairness, it was in the midst of a great wad of logorrhea. I probably should
> have been nicer to you and Gary. (Different post; not the one you replied to here.)
>
> And when we were kids, stuff like that was none of our teachers' business, and they
> knew it.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

I am surprised they could get away with it, since it infringes on ethnic
and national origin stuff.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> Nope. I never took Civics. Neither did Angela. Most of my 9th grade
>> Social
>> Studies class was learning about what we called at the time, Indians. I
>> was
>> assigned to do a report on the Aztecs. Angela rook Washington state
>> history
>> I did not.
>
> Julie. You just forgot. Every kid that graduates high school
> has had some class that deals with our federal govt. and how
> it works.

Nope. I don't think Angela did either.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She couldn't
>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house. *shrug*
>
> lol (back to fiction writing?)

Why is that funny? None of us here at the time liked cake. So why would I
buy cake mix?

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>
>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the late
>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>
>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about drugs.
>> We learned first aid as well.
>>
>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her meals
>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and look
>> for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not believe
>> her report. The only offensive foods she found were molasses, corn syrup
>> and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was usually raw
>> baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got home to eat lunch
>> because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>
>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She couldn't
>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house. *shrug*
>
>
> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake mix???
>
> BULLSHIT !!!

Apparently most people here buy cake mix. When we first moved back here,
there was mention of the "Box Tops" program. I was supposed to give them to
Angela to take to school. When I said I had never seen them, a mom told me
they came on some brand of food. I think it was Betty Crocker. I didn't buy
that brand. She gave me a weird look and said, "Oh! What kind of cake mix DO
you buy?" She gave me an even weirder look when I said I don't buy cake mix.

I do know how to make a cake from scratch. If I needed a cake for some
reason, I would make it that way. I did make a cake for Justin's birthday.
That's when I learned he doesn't like cake either/

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>
>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the late
>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>
>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>
>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>>>> meals
>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were molasses,
>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got home to
>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>
>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>> couldn't
>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house. *shrug*
>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake mix???
>>>
>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>
>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her house.
>
> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with Julie
> and knew that she is factually challenged.
>
> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one here
> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not eat
> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd jar
> of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were rarely used.

I do buy some pasta sauce and canned vegetables. I do read every label and
for things like pasta sauce, I almost always buy the one with the least
amount of carbs. Also try not to buy things with HFCS. The pandemic has
thrown a cog into that though. I have bought things I wouldn't normally buy
because what I normally buy was not there. One of my friends just posted to
FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
this state.

Normally I buy healthy and whole foods for myself. I should be able to do
that again once this pandemic is over. But for now? I'll take what I can
get.

"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>
>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the late
>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>>>>> meals
>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were molasses,
>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got home to
>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>> couldn't
>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house. *shrug*
>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake mix???
>>>>
>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>
>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her house.
>>
>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>
>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one here
>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not eat
>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were rarely
>> used.
>>
>
>
> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?

Because in Angela's health class, the kids were supposed to go through the
kitchen and make a list of all the unhealthy foods they found. She had a
checklist to go by. She also had to list all the foods she ate in a day.
That was 10th grade. Back then she refused to eat what most teens eat. Such
as burgers, pizza, chicken nuggets, etc. She would occasionally get steak
fries at a couple of restaurants. Her diet did change dramatically by senior
year and seemed kind of bad for a few years but now she is back to eating
tons of raw veggies and hemp seeds. She wasn't a typical kid/teen in terms
of diet but it is likely because she grew up eating mostly food cooked from
scratch and not much in the way of junk food or candy. That particular year,
she was big into smoothies and would try to see how much kale or spinach she
could get in there before it started tasting yucky.

The teacher didn't believe it when the box for "cake mix" was not checked
off.Apparently it is typical for most households to have cake mix in their
cupboards. The assignment was to show the kids just how crappy their
parent's diets were. She came home, showed me the paper and said, "Mrs. ____
isn't going to like you!" I had very few of the offending items from the
list in the house.

"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>>>>>>> meals
>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got home
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>> house.
>>>>
>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>> here
>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not eat
>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>> rarely
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>
>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
>>
>
>
> And how would THAT even come up?

Again... The assignment was to go through the cupboards and list the
offending foods and to keep a food diary of what was eaten.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>> >>>>>>> late
>> >>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>> >>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>> >>>>>> meals
>> >>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did
>> >>>>>> not
>> >>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>> >>>>>> molasses,
>> >>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time
>> >>>>>> was
>> >>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
>> >>>>>> home to
>> >>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>> >>>>>> couldn't
>> >>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>> >>>>>> *shrug*
>> >>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>> >>>>> mix???
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher
>> >>>> thought
>> >>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>> >>>> house.
>> >>>
>> >>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>> >>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>> >>>
>> >>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>> >>> here
>> >>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not
>> >>> eat
>> >>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the
>> >>> odd
>> >>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>> >>> rarely
>> >>> used.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>> >
>> > Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and
>> > apples.
>> >
>>
>> And how would THAT even come up?
>
> True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
> the subject of food at home never came up.

It did at ours because this idiot teacher started things off by chastising
the parents by telling us we were not feeding our kids enough. They were
growing and probably needed to eat twice what we fed them. Things didn't get
any better from there!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/30/2020 12:31 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>>>>>>>>> meals
>>>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
>>>>>>>>> home to
>>>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>>>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not
>>>>>> eat
>>>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the
>>>>>> odd
>>>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>>>> rarely
>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>>>
>>>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and
>>>> apples.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And how would THAT even come up?
>>
>> True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
>> the subject of food at home never came up.
>>
> Julie wrote above "Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had
> to list her meals and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the
> kitchen and look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher
> did not believe her report."
>
> So sure, if she met with that teacher on a parent/teacher night the
> subject of food her food report may well have come up.

Yes. The assignment was done just prior to the visit. She also said we were
not feeding our kids enough.

"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2020 10:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/30/2020 10:39 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list
>>>>>>>> her meals
>>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
>>>>>>>> home to
>>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher
>>>>>> thought
>>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>>> house.
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>>> here
>>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not eat
>>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
>>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>>> rarely
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>>
>>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
>>>
>>
>>
>> And how would THAT even come up?
>
> Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks? The
> audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
> a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.
>

No, I missed that. I am not sure I would allow my kid to tell others
what we eat at home. Next thing you know they will want to know if we
have guns.

If this happened when I was a kid, I would have made up a bunch of stuff.

---

I had to do a food log as a kid. Luckily I didn't have to go through the
pantry. We always had cases of Wrigley's chewing gum and not a lot more
because we dined out a lot.

"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/30/2020 1:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 4:07:07 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2020 10:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 10/30/2020 10:39 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list
>>>>>>>>>>> her meals
>>>>>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got
>>>>>>>>>>> home to
>>>>>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not
>>>>>>>> eat
>>>>>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the
>>>>>>>> odd
>>>>>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>>>>>> rarely
>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and
>>>>>> apples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And how would THAT even come up?
>>>>
>>>> Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks?
>>>> The
>>>> audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
>>>> a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.
>>>>
>>> No, I missed that.
>>
>> In all fairness, it was in the midst of a great wad of logorrhea. I
>> probably should
>> have been nicer to you and Gary. (Different post; not the one you
>> replied to here.)
>>
>> And when we were kids, stuff like that was none of our teachers'
>> business, and they
>> knew it.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> I am surprised they could get away with it, since it infringes on ethnic
> and national origin stuff.

We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we are
left wingers, which I am not.

I'm on a Seattle Vintage group. Someone posted a pic of the old Twin Teepees
restaurant. It was so distinctive, it used to be a landmark. Some young
whippersnapper took offense to the picture and went off on a diatribe about
how offensive was. Demanded that the post be removed.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
news
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 02:08:12 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:11:13 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:47:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want people to
>>>>think
>>>>I was ignoring them.
>>>>
>>>>I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology, religion, tons
>>>>of
>>>>stuff about Native Americans and their plight, alcohol and druge abuse,
>>>>family structure, gender differences, ect.
>>>>
>>>>In 9th grade, I remember that we acted out how a bill was passed in the
>>>>senate and we dscussed Republicans and Democrats. My 11th grade teacher
>>>>was
>>>>a Socialist. She had us listen to a speaker from the Socialist Worker's
>>>>Party and also someone from the Bob Burke (I think that was the name)
>>>>group
>>>>which I gather was far right wing. Don't know if they're even still
>>>>around.
>>>>
>>>>Many of my teachers were high and just sort of floated through class,
>>>>excusing us to go do whatever. I really didn't learn much.
>>>
>>> 9th grade class with the teacher that was high was your Civics class.
>>> General curriculum puts Civics in 9th grade.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>I don't think it even falls under civics. That's more sociology
>>which is 11th and 12th grade. "Social studies" didn't include
>>topics like dating, gender, psychology, religion (except religious
>>wars), alcohol/drug abuse... I don't know what planet she lived on
>>at that time, probably not Bothell.
>>
>>We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the late
>>70's/early 80's.
>>
>>-sw
>
> I was on a 'college prep' course of studies. We didn't have Health,
> Sex Ed, and stuff like that. I'm in the age group that was Hippies
> and LSD. When I was in high school everyone was into beer, cigarettes
> and 'Greasers'.
> Civics Class was an hour class when a Freshman (9th grade). All
> about the Constitution, separation of powers, elections, being a good
> citizen, etc. I also took Poli. Sci. as a Freshman at university.
> Because of those classes this term of our current President and his
> acolytes has been stressful for me.
> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc., It seems to me that
> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that all by
> themselves.
> Janet US

They were trying to prevent teen pregnancy. It didn't work. I knew so many
girls who had to drop out because they were pregnant. In those days you
could not stay in school if you were pregnant. You could get married, have
the baby and then come back to school with special permission. There was a
girl in my typing class like that but quit after two days. I think she was
embarrassed. The teacher announced her situation to us and we had to all
agree to let her in the class. I felt sorry for her. She sat in front of me.
She kept her head down and kept looking around like she thought she was
being watched.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-10-30 1:00 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
>> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc., It seems to me that
>> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that all by
>> themselves.
>
> Sex ed is probably a good idea for kids raised in families where stuff
> like that is never discussed. OTOH, it should only be taught by people
> who are capable of being honest about. My friend went to Catholic schools
> and was disgusted by the priest who taught sex ed and told his class that
> a girl can get pregnant by holding onto a boy's penis for 10 seconds.

Our teacher couldn't do it. She cried and ran out of the class. We had to
have the boy's teacher (a male) teach the class. It was all so clinical
though, that it was really rather meaningless.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:15:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...

>> I am surprised they could get away with it, since it infringes on ethnic
>> and national origin stuff.
>
>We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we are
>left wingers, which I am not.
>
I always thought you had too much of a social conscience to be a Trump
supporter. Right-wingers are so "me, myself and my wallet".

On 2020-10-30 7:45 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message

>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>> couldn't believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the
>>> house. *shrug*
>>
>>
>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake mix???
>>
>> BULLSHITÂ* !!!
>
> Apparently most people here buy cake mix. When we first moved back here,
> there was mention of the "Box Tops" program. I was supposed to give them
> to Angela to take to school. When I said I had never seen them, a mom
> told me they came on some brand of food. I think it was Betty Crocker. I
> didn't buy that brand. She gave me a weird look and said, "Oh! What kind
> of cake mix DO you buy?" She gave me an even weirder look when I said I
> don't buy cake mix.
>
> I do know how to make a cake from scratch. If I needed a cake for some
> reason, I would make it that way. I did make a cake for Justin's
> birthday. That's when I learned he doesn't like cake either/


Wow. You just keep digging deeper and deeper into that hole.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2020-10-30 1:00 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
>>> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc.,** It seems to me that
>>> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that
>>> all by
>>> themselves.
>>
>> Sex ed is probably a good idea for kids raised in families where
>> stuff like that is never discussed.* OTOH, it should only be
>> taught by people who are capable of being honest about. My friend
>> went to Catholic schools and was disgusted by the priest who
>> taught sex ed* and told his class that a girl can get pregnant by
>> holding onto a boy's penis for 10 seconds.
>
> Our teacher couldn't do it. She cried and ran out of the class. We
> had to have the boy's teacher (a male) teach the class. It was all
> so clinical though, that it was really rather meaningless.

It must have worked though, since you knew how to "do it".

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:15:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...
>
>>> I am surprised they could get away with it, since it infringes on ethnic
>>> and national origin stuff.
>>
>>We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we
>>are
>>left wingers, which I am not.
>>
> I always thought you had too much of a social conscience to be a Trump
> supporter. Right-wingers are so "me, myself and my wallet".

I am neither left nor right. But certainly not left. Here's what they are
working on doing he Defunding the police, getting rid of jails, starting
with juvenile. Making misdemeanors (other than violent crimes or DUI) not a
jailable offense, if the person claims to be a drug addict, mentally ill or
poor. That means anyone can go into any business or home and take anything
they want and get away with it. They only have to make the claim. Doesn't
have to be true. Safe injection sites. Sex Ed starting in Kindergarten.
There have been clips on the radio of what they will teach. They had to
bleep out some words.

They are telling us if our home gets broken into, we should no call the
police. Instead, we should think of the person's feelings and their
motivation to break in. People who are no left are not free to speak their
minds. I we don't agree with them, we can be shot, stabbed, have liquids
thrown on us, etc. That's all okay. I've HAD it! The only parts of Seattle I
will go to are Bitter Lake and Lake Forest Park. Only because my friend and
BF live there. Those areas seem safe for now although each time I go, more
homeless are there. I guess I have to let the homeless thing slide as they
are now everywhere. Of course there wouldn't be so many if they didn't make
it so appealing to be here. Just take what you want! Heck, they don't even
have to do laundry. Just steal new clothes. In many areas, they are provided
with porta potties and running water.

I will not go anywhere near the downtown area of Seattle or even drive
through it to get somewhere South. It's just not safe any more. They let
protesters march on the freeway and streets can be shut down all night.

The bad thing is that the bad people and the crimes are spilling over to
where I live now. I mostly stay home. It's safer that way.

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 5:16:35 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:15:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >>> I am surprised they could get away with it, since it infringes on ethnic
> >>> and national origin stuff.
> >>
> >>We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we
> >>are
> >>left wingers, which I am not.
> >>
> > I always thought you had too much of a social conscience to be a Trump
> > supporter. Right-wingers are so "me, myself and my wallet".
> I am neither left nor right. But certainly not left. Here's what they are
> working on doing he Defunding the police, getting rid of jails, starting
> with juvenile. Making misdemeanors (other than violent crimes or DUI) not a
> jailable offense, if the person claims to be a drug addict, mentally ill or
> poor. That means anyone can go into any business or home and take anything
> they want and get away with it. They only have to make the claim. Doesn't
> have to be true. Safe injection sites. Sex Ed starting in Kindergarten.
> There have been clips on the radio of what they will teach. They had to
> bleep out some words.
>
> They are telling us if our home gets broken into, we should no call the
> police. Instead, we should think of the person's feelings and their
> motivation to break in. People who are no left are not free to speak their
> minds. I we don't agree with them, we can be shot, stabbed, have liquids
> thrown on us, etc. That's all okay. I've HAD it! The only parts of Seattle I
> will go to are Bitter Lake and Lake Forest Park. Only because my friend and
> BF live there. Those areas seem safe for now although each time I go, more
> homeless are there. I guess I have to let the homeless thing slide as they
> are now everywhere. Of course there wouldn't be so many if they didn't make
> it so appealing to be here. Just take what you want! Heck, they don't even
> have to do laundry. Just steal new clothes. In many areas, they are provided
> with porta potties and running water.
>
> I will not go anywhere near the downtown area of Seattle or even drive
> through it to get somewhere South. It's just not safe any more. They let
> protesters march on the freeway and streets can be shut down all night.
>
> The bad thing is that the bad people and the crimes are spilling over to
> where I live now. I mostly stay home. It's safer that way.

The first day I was in Lynnwood, WA, I saw a guy try to walk out of a hardware store with a power tool under his jacket. That was one of those stupid criminal crimes. That certainly left a bad impression on me but luckily, that was the only crime that I saw during our year of living there. I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's play - that can't be good. My wife saw a naked guy creeping around the cars in a park 'n ride. That was spooky but WA seemed like a pretty good place to live - mostly.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 5:16:35 PM UTC-10,
wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 17:15:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >>> I am surprised they could get away with it, since it infringes on
> >>> ethnic
> >>> and national origin stuff.
> >>
> >>We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we
> >>are
> >>left wingers, which I am not.
> >>
> > I always thought you had too much of a social conscience to be a Trump
> > supporter. Right-wingers are so "me, myself and my wallet".
> I am neither left nor right. But certainly not left. Here's what they are
> working on doing he Defunding the police, getting rid of jails,
> starting
> with juvenile. Making misdemeanors (other than violent crimes or DUI) not
> a
> jailable offense, if the person claims to be a drug addict, mentally ill
> or
> poor. That means anyone can go into any business or home and take anything
> they want and get away with it. They only have to make the claim. Doesn't
> have to be true. Safe injection sites. Sex Ed starting in Kindergarten.
> There have been clips on the radio of what they will teach. They had to
> bleep out some words.
>
> They are telling us if our home gets broken into, we should no call the
> police. Instead, we should think of the person's feelings and their
> motivation to break in. People who are no left are not free to speak their
> minds. I we don't agree with them, we can be shot, stabbed, have liquids
> thrown on us, etc. That's all okay. I've HAD it! The only parts of Seattle
> I
> will go to are Bitter Lake and Lake Forest Park. Only because my friend
> and
> BF live there. Those areas seem safe for now although each time I go, more
> homeless are there. I guess I have to let the homeless thing slide as they
> are now everywhere. Of course there wouldn't be so many if they didn't
> make
> it so appealing to be here. Just take what you want! Heck, they don't even
> have to do laundry. Just steal new clothes. In many areas, they are
> provided
> with porta potties and running water.
>
> I will not go anywhere near the downtown area of Seattle or even drive
> through it to get somewhere South. It's just not safe any more. They let
> protesters march on the freeway and streets can be shut down all night.
>
> The bad thing is that the bad people and the crimes are spilling over to
> where I live now. I mostly stay home. It's safer that way.

The first day I was in Lynnwood, WA, I saw a guy try to walk out of a
hardware store with a power tool under his jacket. That was one of those
stupid criminal crimes. That certainly left a bad impression on me but
luckily, that was the only crime that I saw during our year of living there.
I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's play - that
can't be good. My wife saw a naked guy creeping around the cars in a park 'n
ride. That was spooky but WA seemed like a pretty good place to live -
mostly.

Lynnwood. Edmonds and Mountlake Terrace are still good places to live. Very
expensive though. I don't know about the gun play. Haven't seen that.

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:44:15 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > One of my friends just posted to
> > FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
> > this state.
> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>
> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
> almost empty again. <sigh>

Really? I went to the grocery Friday and the paper aisle was loaded.
My favorite brand now comes only in a 24-pack of mega rolls.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:45:03 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we are
> > left wingers, which I am not.
> >
> > I'm on a Seattle Vintage group. Someone posted a pic of the old Twin Teepees
> > restaurant. It was so distinctive, it used to be a landmark. Some young
> > whippersnapper took offense to the picture and went off on a diatribe about
> > how offensive was. Demanded that the post be removed.
> That's so silly too.
> The entire west coast seems to have more than usual
> extreme liberal views.

Liberals tend to cluster in urban areas. Tend to.

I think you'll find that Washington State is much more conservative
east of the Cascades.

Cindy Hamilton

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She couldn't
> >> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house. *shrug*
> >
> > lol (back to fiction writing?)
>
> Why is that funny? None of us here at the time liked cake. So why would I
> buy cake mix?

I wasn't laughing at you for not having cake mix.
It's so very rare that I buy it.
I was laughing about the stupid teacher getting on your case
for not having it (or other unhealthy products in your pantry)

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> One of my friends just posted to
> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
> this state.

It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.

I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
almost empty again. <sigh>

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
> > the subject of food at home never came up.
>
> It did at ours because this idiot teacher started things off by chastising
> the parents by telling us we were not feeding our kids enough. They were
> growing and probably needed to eat twice what we fed them. Things didn't get
> any better from there!

Most teachers are good ones but there are some bad ones too and
should be weeded out. I ran across a few when I was in school and
one or two when my daughter was in school.

Sounds like that teacher of Angela's was a bad one. She had an
agenda...wanting to prove that most kids ate crap food at home
and you were the exception to her belief. So she didn't believe
Angela's list and she "lit into you" too.

And if Angela was a bit overweight at that time, why would she
say kids should eat twice as much? Dumb teacher that should have
been fired. They should teach facts, not personal opinions.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we are
> left wingers, which I am not.
>
> I'm on a Seattle Vintage group. Someone posted a pic of the old Twin Teepees
> restaurant. It was so distinctive, it used to be a landmark. Some young
> whippersnapper took offense to the picture and went off on a diatribe about
> how offensive was. Demanded that the post be removed.

That's so silly too.
The entire west coast seems to have more than usual
extreme liberal views.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's
> play - that can't be good.

I so disagree there. Young boys do seem to have a more
aggressive side than young girls. When I was a young lad,
we all loved playing "Army" for several years. It was fun
to do. And good exercise too.

For Christmas presents we got realistic toy guns, hand grenades,
uniforms, etc. Best presents were authentic surplus store
things left over from WW2 and Korean War, like real helmets,
canteens, utility belts. (I still have mine).

The old WW2 movies and shows like Combat were fun to
watch.

IMO, it let us get out the aggressivness while we were young
and doing it in a safe manner. Child war games.

Then the hippy generation grew up and became parents and
discouraged their kids from doing all that. Tried to
turn them into peace-loving citizens from the beginning.
Wouldn't allow them to play "Army."

Big fail, imo. Not long after, all those young boys got
a little older and started buying real guns and shooting
each other for real.

On 2020-10-31 9:43 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> It did at ours because this idiot teacher started things off by chastising
>> the parents by telling us we were not feeding our kids enough. They were
>> growing and probably needed to eat twice what we fed them. Things didn't get
>> any better from there!
>
> Most teachers are good ones but there are some bad ones too and
> should be weeded out. I ran across a few when I was in school and
> one or two when my daughter was in school.
>
> Sounds like that teacher of Angela's was a bad one.

It sounds more like Julie is lying about the whole thing.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:44:54 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's
>> play - that can't be good.
>
>I so disagree there. Young boys do seem to have a more
>aggressive side than young girls. When I was a young lad,
>we all loved playing "Army" for several years. It was fun
>to do. And good exercise too.
>
>For Christmas presents we got realistic toy guns, hand grenades,
>uniforms, etc. Best presents were authentic surplus store
>things left over from WW2 and Korean War, like real helmets,
>canteens, utility belts. (I still have mine).
>
>The old WW2 movies and shows like Combat were fun to
>watch.
>
>IMO, it let us get out the aggressivness while we were young
>and doing it in a safe manner. Child war games.
>
>Then the hippy generation grew up and became parents and
>discouraged their kids from doing all that. Tried to
>turn them into peace-loving citizens from the beginning.
>Wouldn't allow them to play "Army."
>
>Big fail, imo. Not long after, all those young boys got
>a little older and started buying real guns and shooting
>each other for real.

Aggressive nature stays and becomes passive aggressive. I don't
believe that gun games create or assuage aggressive nature. it
eventually shows itself in pointed hurtful words, or controlling
someone in a demeaning way, or punching, becoming violent or going
back to those guns and uniforms to become criminals or militia, Don't
forget children and women who are beaten and killed, drive-by
shooters or even rump - they all want to hurt someone , really make
someone hurt..
Janet US

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> One of my friends just posted to
>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>> this state.
>
>It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>
>I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>almost empty again. <sigh>

there are people out there who can think ahead. They know if they are
required to stay at home for lengthy periods and have curbs put on
their shopping opportunities, there is a possibility of running out.
So, they stock up. What happens to the stores when a hurricane is
predicted? Everyone buys toilet paper.
Janet US

On 2020-10-31 9:44 a.m., Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's
>> play - that can't be good.
>
> I so disagree there. Young boys do seem to have a more
> aggressive side than young girls. When I was a young lad,
> we all loved playing "Army" for several years. It was fun
> to do. And good exercise too.
>
> For Christmas presents we got realistic toy guns, hand grenades,
> uniforms, etc.

Those were for kids under 10. Older kids got BB guns, pellet guns, bows
and arrows. When I was 15 I got a 12 gauge shotgun and when I was 17 I
got a .303.


Best presents were authentic surplus store
> things left over from WW2 and Korean War, like real helmets,
> canteens, utility belts. (I still have mine).

Army surplus store were the best. They had so much need stuff. There
was an army surplus department in one of the major department stores in
Toronto, or maybe it was in the rival Simpsons across the street. I
remember bins full of Lee Enfield 303s selling for $5.95. I got a
sporterized one for Christmas and I think there were selling for about
$29.95 at the time. I have seen a few unmodified rifles for sale in the
last year and they are now selling for close to $900.



>
> The old WW2 movies and shows like Combat were fun to
> watch.
>
> IMO, it let us get out the aggressivness while we were young
> and doing it in a safe manner. Child war games.
>
> Then the hippy generation grew up and became parents and
> discouraged their kids from doing all that. Tried to
> turn them into peace-loving citizens from the beginning.
> Wouldn't allow them to play "Army."
>
> Big fail, imo. Not long after, all those young boys got
> a little older and started buying real guns and shooting
> each other for real.


Yep. We grew out of playing with toy guns. Some of us still have an
interest in shooting sports. I was in the reserves when I was 16-18 and
trained as a weapons technician. I find the engineering and ballistics
to be very interesting and still do a lot of target shooting.