On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:55 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
>> > the subject of food at home never came up.
>>
>> It did at ours because this idiot teacher started things off by chastising
>> the parents by telling us we were not feeding our kids enough. They were
>> growing and probably needed to eat twice what we fed them. Things didn't get
>> any better from there!
>
>Most teachers are good ones but there are some bad ones too

That could have been a post by Dave Smith or Ed.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:44:35 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we are
>> left wingers, which I am not.
>>
>> I'm on a Seattle Vintage group. Someone posted a pic of the old Twin Teepees
>> restaurant. It was so distinctive, it used to be a landmark. Some young
>> whippersnapper took offense to the picture and went off on a diatribe about
>> how offensive was. Demanded that the post be removed.
>
>That's so silly too.
>The entire west coast seems to have more than usual
>extreme liberal views.

Maybe all the intelligent people moved there and the suckers are stuck
in the middle?

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> One of my friends just posted to
>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>> this state.
>
>It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>
>I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>almost empty again. <sigh>

It's all the people who'll get the shits if Trump loses. They're
preparing.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:44:15 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > One of my friends just posted to
>> > FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>> > this state.
>> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>
>> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>> almost empty again. <sigh>
>
>Really? I went to the grocery Friday and the paper aisle was loaded.
>My favorite brand now comes only in a 24-pack of mega rolls.

If I'll ever have a favourite brand of toilet paper, I'll be happy to
be committed to the nut house.

On 10/31/2020 11:11 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:44:15 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of my friends just posted to
>>>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>>>> this state.
>>> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>>> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>>> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>>
>>> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>>> almost empty again. <sigh>
>>
>> Really? I went to the grocery Friday and the paper aisle was loaded.
>> My favorite brand now comes only in a 24-pack of mega rolls.
>
> If I'll ever have a favourite brand of toilet paper, I'll be happy to
> be committed to the nut house.
>


you mean out house?

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> One of my friends just posted to
>>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>>> this state.
>>
>> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>
>> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>> almost empty again. <sigh>
>
> It's all the people who'll get the shits if Trump loses. They're
> preparing.
>

Poor Gary will soon have a bald ass if you keep sniffing so
vigorously Druce!

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:44:15 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of my friends just posted to
>>>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>>>> this state.
>>> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>>> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>>> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>>
>>> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>>> almost empty again. <sigh>
>>
>> Really? I went to the grocery Friday and the paper aisle was loaded.
>> My favorite brand now comes only in a 24-pack of mega rolls.
>
> If I'll ever have a favourite brand of toilet paper, I'll be happy to
> be committed to the nut house.
>

Amen Druce ... the wipe paper cannot change the butt aroma, si amigo?

Hank Rogers wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> One of my friends just posted to
> >>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
> >>> this state.
> >>
> >> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
> >> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
> >> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
> >>
> >> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
> >> almost empty again. <sigh>
> >
> > It's all the people who'll get the shits if Trump loses. They're
> > preparing.
> >
> Poor Gary will soon have a bald ass if you keep sniffing so
> vigorously Druce!


He's on a roll today, ain't he...mebbe he is going beyond "sniffing" and is actually now looking to consume gen - u - wine turds...

--
Best
Greg

GM wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my friends just posted to
>>>>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>>>>> this state.
>>>>
>>>> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>>>> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>>>> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>>>
>>>> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>>>> almost empty again. <sigh>
>>>
>>> It's all the people who'll get the shits if Trump loses. They're
>>> preparing.
>>>
>> Poor Gary will soon have a bald ass if you keep sniffing so
>> vigorously Druce!
>
>
> He's on a roll today, ain't he...mebbe he is going beyond "sniffing" and is actually now looking to consume gen - u - wine turds...
>

Well, maybe ... I know he can sure snort ass dust. Like a shop vacuum.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>> >> couldn't
>> >> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house. *shrug*
>> >
>> > lol (back to fiction writing?)
>>
>> Why is that funny? None of us here at the time liked cake. So why would I
>> buy cake mix?
>
> I wasn't laughing at you for not having cake mix.
> It's so very rare that I buy it.
> I was laughing about the stupid teacher getting on your case
> for not having it (or other unhealthy products in your pantry)

Yeah. It seemed to me like she wanted to prove what lousy diets we had, but
she was ****ed at us because we failed her.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> One of my friends just posted to
>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live in
>> this state.
>
> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>
> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
> almost empty again. <sigh>

I just heard two opposite things on the radio. Hospital workers were
terrified that they wouldn't have enough rooms to accommodate this
unexpected surge in the Corona virus. Then the announcer said there was no
problem. There were plenty of beds and the surge wasn't that bad.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:43:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> One of my friends just posted to
>>> FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live
>>> in
>>> this state.
>>
>>It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>>by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>>think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>
>>I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>>almost empty again. <sigh>
>
> there are people out there who can think ahead. They know if they are
> required to stay at home for lengthy periods and have curbs put on
> their shopping opportunities, there is a possibility of running out.
> So, they stock up. What happens to the stores when a hurricane is
> predicted? Everyone buys toilet paper.
> Janet US

We ran out here initially because our Governor told us he might shut
*everything* down, including the grocery stores. We were told to stock up on
beans, rice and boxed mac and cheese. Then they said, "Don't stock up on
beans and rice! Nobody likes that!" Well, we like that but it was too late.
I still can't get my preferred rice. The stuff that Dollar Tree sells is not
that good. Some of the grains are broken .

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:44:15 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>> > One of my friends just posted to
>>> > FB that there is another TP shortage where she lives. She doesn't live
>>> > in
>>> > this state.
>>> It's the damn news media. They are creating another shortage
>>> by saying another shortage is on the way. People hear this and
>>> think, "eh oh, I better stock up." And here we go again.
>>>
>>> I went to the grocery Thursday and the toilet paper section is
>>> almost empty again. <sigh>
>>
>>Really? I went to the grocery Friday and the paper aisle was loaded.
>>My favorite brand now comes only in a 24-pack of mega rolls.
>
> If I'll ever have a favourite brand of toilet paper, I'll be happy to
> be committed to the nut house.

I just found some off brand at Dollar Tree. One ply. $1 per toll. I bought
two rolls. I like it!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
>> > the subject of food at home never came up.
>>
>> It did at ours because this idiot teacher started things off by
>> chastising
>> the parents by telling us we were not feeding our kids enough. They were
>> growing and probably needed to eat twice what we fed them. Things didn't
>> get
>> any better from there!
>
> Most teachers are good ones but there are some bad ones too and
> should be weeded out. I ran across a few when I was in school and
> one or two when my daughter was in school.
>
> Sounds like that teacher of Angela's was a bad one. She had an
> agenda...wanting to prove that most kids ate crap food at home
> and you were the exception to her belief. So she didn't believe
> Angela's list and she "lit into you" too.
>
> And if Angela was a bit overweight at that time, why would she
> say kids should eat twice as much? Dumb teacher that should have
> been fired. They should teach facts, not personal opinions.

I did point that out to her. A Dr. put her on the South Beach diet. The
teacher just glared at me and said that diet was not for growing kids. Thing
is... She had stopped growing by that age. So.. Dunno.

She had another gym teacher that we both hated! I started out badly with her
because I didn't realize that they put her in a portable, far from the gym
on parent's night.. I don't walk fast, especially in the dark. So I was
late. She also assigned homework to the parents, to be turned in, in 3 days.
I got a C, most likely because I was late and missed part of the
presentation.

I could write a novel on this woman but the worst thing was, she told Angela
if she didn't run, she would fail her. Angela had a broken back at the time
and a Drs. note excusing her from gym.

I had a meeting at the school with some other people, and Mrs. L. (the gym
teacher) showed up at the meeting to rip me a new one. As soon as she opened
her mouth, she realized that she was messing with the wrong person. I banged
my fist down on the table and ripped into her! Thankfully there were school
officials at the table who took my side. The teacher upped the grade to a D.
Thing is... She did nothing in terms of Angela learning anything. She just
had to sit there and watch the others. Why couldn't she have given her a
written assignment? The history of basketball, for instance. But no.

Once we were at Costco. Angela said, "OMG! Mom! It's Mrs. L.!" We both took
off in another direction so we wouldn't encounter her. We disliked her that
much.

The really sad thing was, there was a male gym teacher that Angela had in a
past year who was nice. He worked at that Costco during the summer. He
always said, "Hi" to us when he saw us.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we
>> are
>> left wingers, which I am not.
>>
>> I'm on a Seattle Vintage group. Someone posted a pic of the old Twin
>> Teepees
>> restaurant. It was so distinctive, it used to be a landmark. Some young
>> whippersnapper took offense to the picture and went off on a diatribe
>> about
>> how offensive was. Demanded that the post be removed.
>
> That's so silly too.
> The entire west coast seems to have more than usual
> extreme liberal views.

It's disgusting. I want out of here.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's
>> play - that can't be good.
>
> I so disagree there. Young boys do seem to have a more
> aggressive side than young girls. When I was a young lad,
> we all loved playing "Army" for several years. It was fun
> to do. And good exercise too.
>
> For Christmas presents we got realistic toy guns, hand grenades,
> uniforms, etc. Best presents were authentic surplus store
> things left over from WW2 and Korean War, like real helmets,
> canteens, utility belts. (I still have mine).
>
> The old WW2 movies and shows like Combat were fun to
> watch.
>
> IMO, it let us get out the aggressivness while we were young
> and doing it in a safe manner. Child war games.
>
> Then the hippy generation grew up and became parents and
> discouraged their kids from doing all that. Tried to
> turn them into peace-loving citizens from the beginning.
> Wouldn't allow them to play "Army."
>
> Big fail, imo. Not long after, all those young boys got
> a little older and started buying real guns and shooting
> each other for real.

My first present as a baby was a realistic looking toy gun. I kept it around
for some years but usually let the boys play with it. In those days, they
played cowboys and Indians or Army. Sometimes pirate. Lots of faux weapons.

One family on our street had what they called a tree house. It was more like
an elevated playhouse but it was quite large. There was a built in ladder on
one side and a slide on the other. We sometimes camped in there and it could
easily hold 12 kids in sleeping bags.

We used to play Swiss Family Robinson. I was always the mom because I was
the oldest. The boys had makeshift weapons (usually fern roots or rocks)
that they would throw off the porch. We girls made the meals which were not
well balanced and oddly creative. They involved whatever we could pick from
our various gardens or sneak from our houses. Our moms were not very
generous when it came to giving us food to play with.

Angela never had a toy gun until the year I found some dead stock cap guns
from my era, online. I bought several. The other parents were less than
thrilled that I allowed their kids to play with them. So we resorted to
using a rock or a hammer to pop the caps. That's what we usually did when I
was a kid because it was quicker and easier than loading the guns. They were
fine with the caps. Just not the guns.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:44:54 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's
>>> play - that can't be good.
>>
>>I so disagree there. Young boys do seem to have a more
>>aggressive side than young girls. When I was a young lad,
>>we all loved playing "Army" for several years. It was fun
>>to do. And good exercise too.
>>
>>For Christmas presents we got realistic toy guns, hand grenades,
>>uniforms, etc. Best presents were authentic surplus store
>>things left over from WW2 and Korean War, like real helmets,
>>canteens, utility belts. (I still have mine).
>>
>>The old WW2 movies and shows like Combat were fun to
>>watch.
>>
>>IMO, it let us get out the aggressivness while we were young
>>and doing it in a safe manner. Child war games.
>>
>>Then the hippy generation grew up and became parents and
>>discouraged their kids from doing all that. Tried to
>>turn them into peace-loving citizens from the beginning.
>>Wouldn't allow them to play "Army."
>>
>>Big fail, imo. Not long after, all those young boys got
>>a little older and started buying real guns and shooting
>>each other for real.
>
> Aggressive nature stays and becomes passive aggressive. I don't
> believe that gun games create or assuage aggressive nature. it
> eventually shows itself in pointed hurtful words, or controlling
> someone in a demeaning way, or punching, becoming violent or going
> back to those guns and uniforms to become criminals or militia, Don't
> forget children and women who are beaten and killed, drive-by
> shooters or even rump - they all want to hurt someone , really make
> someone hurt..
> Janet US

The problem here with the toy guns is that they are sometimes mistaken for
real guns. They passed some law that a portion of the toy gun had to be
orange to differentiate. But that didn't seem to help.

On 2020-10-31 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message

>> I wasn't laughing at you for not having cake mix.
>> It's so very rare that I buy it.
>> I was laughing about the stupid teacher getting on your case
>> for not having it (or other unhealthy products in your pantry)
>
> Yeah. It seemed to me like she wanted to prove what lousy diets we had,
> but she was ****ed at us because we failed her.

You should take a lesson from Tucker Carlson. He lied about having some
damning documents. When he wad to put up or shut up he claimed they had
been lost. When the shipper found the documents he said he was not
going to release them. He realized that he was just digging his hole
deeper, so he opted to drop it and hope that people will forget about
the lie he got caught in. The smarter people in the crowd will
remember that he had been caught in a lie and that he no longer has any
credibility.

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 7:18:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:44:54 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >>dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I didn't care much for the kids with their gun crazy child's
> >>> play - that can't be good.
> >>
> >>I so disagree there. Young boys do seem to have a more
> >>aggressive side than young girls. When I was a young lad,
> >>we all loved playing "Army" for several years. It was fun
> >>to do. And good exercise too.
> >>
> >>For Christmas presents we got realistic toy guns, hand grenades,
> >>uniforms, etc. Best presents were authentic surplus store
> >>things left over from WW2 and Korean War, like real helmets,
> >>canteens, utility belts. (I still have mine).
> >>
> >>The old WW2 movies and shows like Combat were fun to
> >>watch.
> >>
> >>IMO, it let us get out the aggressivness while we were young
> >>and doing it in a safe manner. Child war games.
> >>
> >>Then the hippy generation grew up and became parents and
> >>discouraged their kids from doing all that. Tried to
> >>turn them into peace-loving citizens from the beginning.
> >>Wouldn't allow them to play "Army."
> >>
> >>Big fail, imo. Not long after, all those young boys got
> >>a little older and started buying real guns and shooting
> >>each other for real.
> >
> > Aggressive nature stays and becomes passive aggressive. I don't
> > believe that gun games create or assuage aggressive nature. it
> > eventually shows itself in pointed hurtful words, or controlling
> > someone in a demeaning way, or punching, becoming violent or going
> > back to those guns and uniforms to become criminals or militia, Don't
> > forget children and women who are beaten and killed, drive-by
> > shooters or even rump - they all want to hurt someone , really make
> > someone hurt..
> > Janet US
>
> The problem here with the toy guns is that they are sometimes mistaken for
> real guns. They passed some law that a portion of the toy gun had to be
> orange to differentiate. But that didn't seem to help.

Toy guns are bad. I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns. Guns are not
toys.

--Bryan

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2020-10-29 3:12 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 10/28/2020 8:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > > > > And WTF does that have to do with your lie about the
> > > > > non-existent crime wave at coffee stands?
> > > >
> > > > Nothing at all. Just an example of how things are around here.
> > >
> > > Okay! You just confessed to lying about the crime wave at coffee
> > > stands. Thank you!
> >
> > It was pretty obvious right from the start that she was lying about
> > that. I challenged to her cite a news report about it. It was no
> > surprise that she was unable to post one.
>
> I'll repeat. If you think every crime that haw been committed makes
> the news, you'd be wrong.

Of course not!

You won't find in the news that Winsor Woods area of Virginia Beach has
had a rampant theft of Amazon boxes of porches (empty boxes dumped near
Mt Trashmore which the police picked up and reported from the
addresses). Apparently Amazon is making good on most of it.

It all happened in a 1-2 day span about a week or so ago. Gary *might*
on local news channels but not too likely.

Julie Bove wrote:

> I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want people
> to think I was ignoring them.
>
> I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology, religion,
> tons of stuff about Native Americans and their plight, alcohol and
> druge abuse, family structure, gender differences, ect.

I seem to recall social studies but middle school. Pretty sure 8th
grade was last of it?

After that it was other things like world history and a wasted (to me)
year of USA history of which I recall only the interesting parts of the
civil war and revoluntionary war.

Probably the most interesting class ever was one in 'The Bible as
History' in college. It was not a religion class, but one that delved
pretty deep into pre-christian times of the middle east then later
christian up through the middle ages and the impacts of clashes of
christians and islam.

U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:47:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> > I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want people
> > to think I was ignoring them.
> >
> > I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology, religion,
> > tons of stuff about Native Americans and their plight, alcohol and
> > druge abuse, family structure, gender differences, ect.
> >
> > In 9th grade, I remember that we acted out how a bill was passed in
> > the senate and we dscussed Republicans and Democrats. My 11th grade
> > teacher was a Socialist. She had us listen to a speaker from the
> > Socialist Worker's Party and also someone from the Bob Burke (I
> > think that was the name) group which I gather was far right wing.
> > Don't know if they're even still around.
> >
> > Many of my teachers were high and just sort of floated through
> > class, excusing us to go do whatever. I really didn't learn much.
>
> 9th grade class with the teacher that was high was your Civics class.
> General curriculum puts Civics in 9th grade.
> Janet US

School systems vary by state, or did then. Please do not assume.

On 2020-10-31 8:04 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>> > True. Whenever I went to my daughter's school "parents night"
>>> > the subject of food at home never came up.
>>>
>>> It did at ours because this idiot teacher started things off by
>>> chastising
>>> the parents by telling us we were not feeding our kids enough. They were
>>> growing and probably needed to eat twice what we fed them. Things
>>> didn't get
>>> any better from there!
>>
>> Most teachers are good ones but there are some bad ones too and
>> should be weeded out. I ran across a few when I was in school and
>> one or two when my daughter was in school.
>>
>> Sounds like that teacher of Angela's was a bad one. She had an
>> agenda...wanting to prove that most kids ate crap food at home
>> and you were the exception to her belief. So she didn't believe
>> Angela's list and she "lit into you" too.
>>
>> And if Angela was a bit overweight at that time, why would she
>> say kids should eat twice as much? Dumb teacher that should have
>> been fired. They should teach facts, not personal opinions.
>
> I did point that out to her. A Dr. put her on the South Beach diet. The
> teacher just glared at me and said that diet was not for growing kids.
> Thing is... She had stopped growing by that age. So.. Dunno.
>
> She had another gym teacher that we both hated! I started out badly with
> her because I didn't realize that they put her in a portable, far from
> the gym on parent's night.. I don't walk fast, especially in the dark.
> So I was late. She also assigned homework to the parents, to be turned
> in, in 3 days. I got a C, most likely because I was late and missed part
> of the presentation.
>
> I could write a novel on this woman but the worst thing was, she told
> Angela if she didn't run, she would fail her. Angela had a broken back
> at the time and a Drs. note excusing her from gym.

I am sure you could write a novel. You have already posted quite a work
of fiction about this teacher.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:11:13 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:47:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want
> > > > people to think I was ignoring them.
> > > >
> > > > I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology,
> > > > religion, tons of stuff about Native Americans and their
> > > > plight, alcohol and druge abuse, family structure, gender
> > > > differences, ect.
> > > >
> > > > In 9th grade, I remember that we acted out how a bill was
> > > > passed in the senate and we dscussed Republicans and Democrats.
> > > > My 11th grade teacher was a Socialist. She had us listen to a
> > > > speaker from the Socialist Worker's Party and also someone from
> > > > the Bob Burke (I think that was the name) group which I gather
> > > > was far right wing. Don't know if they're even still around.
> > > >
> > > > Many of my teachers were high and just sort of floated through
> > > > class, excusing us to go do whatever. I really didn't learn
> > > > much.
> > >
> > > 9th grade class with the teacher that was high was your Civics
> > > class. General curriculum puts Civics in 9th grade.
> > > Janet US
> >
> > I don't think it even falls under civics. That's more sociology
> > which is 11th and 12th grade. "Social studies" didn't include
> > topics like dating, gender, psychology, religion (except religious
> > wars), alcohol/drug abuse... I don't know what planet she lived on
> > at that time, probably not Bothell.
> >
> I grew up in Edmonds. My mom (who worked for the school district)
> said we were on a trial program.It obviously didn't pan out. I had no
> math beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>
> > We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the late
> > 70's/early 80's.
>
> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>
> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
> meals and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the
> kitchen and look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The
> teacher did not believe her report. The only offensive foods she
> found were molasses, corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her
> breakfast at the time was usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She
> waited until she got home to eat lunch because her assigned lunch
> time was 2:00 pm.
>
> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
> couldn't believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the
> house. shrug

LOL! Seriously! Last time I had a cake mix was probably 2015 or so?

I did just get some peanut butter cookie mixes. I am not good at
making those from scratch and Don likes them at times. I had a good
coupon and a store sale so figured we'd have a little treat. Maybe I
will make them tomorrow, if not, next month will do.

I do have molasses and a lite Karo for baking. Brown sugar and honey
powder too. Regular sugar for tea.

On 2020-10-31 8:32 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 7:18:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Janet US
>>
>> The problem here with the toy guns is that they are sometimes mistaken for
>> real guns. They passed some law that a portion of the toy gun had to be
>> orange to differentiate. But that didn't seem to help.
>
> Toy guns are bad. I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns. Guns are not
> toys.


You are right. Guns are not toys. Toy guns are toys.
There are also oy airplanes, toy cars, toy trains

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-10-31 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>
>>> I wasn't laughing at you for not having cake mix.
>>> It's so very rare that I buy it.
>>> I was laughing about the stupid teacher getting on your case
>>> for not having it (or other unhealthy products in your pantry)
>>
>> Yeah. It seemed to me like she wanted to prove what lousy diets we had,
>> but she was ****ed at us because we failed her.
>
> You should take a lesson from Tucker Carlson. He lied about having some
> damning documents. When he wad to put up or shut up he claimed they had
> been lost. When the shipper found the documents he said he was not going
> to release them. He realized that he was just digging his hole deeper, so
> he opted to drop it and hope that people will forget about the lie he got
> caught in. The smarter people in the crowd will remember that he had
> been caught in a lie and that he no longer has any credibility.

Mm hm. I heard evidence on the radio that proves otherwise. Only time I've
seen Tucker was when I was recovering from pneumonia in the hospital. From
what little I saw, he seemed pretty funny.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want people
>> to think I was ignoring them.
>>
>> I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology, religion,
>> tons of stuff about Native Americans and their plight, alcohol and
>> druge abuse, family structure, gender differences, ect.
>
> I seem to recall social studies but middle school. Pretty sure 8th
> grade was last of it?
>
We had it every year except for Kindergarten. We had choices for Social
Studies in the 12th grade. I chose History as I liked the teacher and he
brought he dog to school. He named the dog Hector so he could say, "When
Hector was a pup..."

Alas, I did not get that class. I was assigned to Contemporary World
Problems. I'll never know what those were as we never addressed them.
Instead we colored flags and maps, previewed films for his Pre-Voc (Special
Ed) class, or were simply given an early release. Every day we begged to
learn something. The teacher was always vague about that.

We stormed the Guidance Counselor's office and begged to be put in another
class. Nope couldn't do it. Couldn't do it when our parents called either.
But when my brother was assigned to the same teacher the following year,
they did assign a different teacher when my dad complained.

I find it very sad when kids are eager to learn, but the teacher puts in
little to no effort.

Angela was in a tap class when she was around 9 or 10. That class really
wanted to learn. Every week they'd ask, can we do it faster? And they did.
The funny thing was, the most advnced class, 16-19 year olds was after her
class. Many of those people were in there just to socialize and didn't put
much effort into learning. It was funny to hear their comments. Such as...
"We're supposed to be the advanced class but they're better than us!"

That was the year that the teacher dropped the ball so to speak. He allowed
two of the advanced students to choreograph the recital piece. They picked a
song about basketball from the movie, "High School Muscial". The kids mostly
dribbled and passed mini basketballs around and wore basketball uniforms.

The problem? It didn't show off their tap skills at all and trhey all
stuggled with the basketballs as none of them were basketball players. Plus
the fact that they had mini balls and not full sized ones.

Both the kids and the parents complained. As in... We don't want to just go
out there and put on a cute dance. We want to show what we've learned! So
the teacher re-choreographed it to involve the balls just in the beginning
part. The rest wass tap. It was very impressive!

> After that it was other things like world history and a wasted (to me)
> year of USA history of which I recall only the interesting parts of the
> civil war and revoluntionary war.

In the 5th grade, we learned about the various states. I chose to do a
report on Kanasa and Oklahoma. Easy for me because I had lived in Kansas and
my dad had lived lived in Oklahoma. We had to memorize the state capitals.
Being the smart ass that I was/am, I asked the teacher why we needed to know
this.

He looked at me and said, "Picture this. You're an adult. You're in a bar. A
guy walks up to you and asks you what the capital of Vermont is. What do you
reply?" My reoply was something like... Sorry sire. You're not my type. I
have better things to talk about than state capitals! I also remember a big
portrait of Nixon on the wall. The eyes seemed to follow us. And that we
were told that one had to be 35 to run for president. We were not discussing
politics. Some student said that some other student should run for
president. The teacher said he couldn't and then told us why.
>
> Probably the most interesting class ever was one in 'The Bible as
> History' in college. It was not a religion class, but one that delved
> pretty deep into pre-christian times of the middle east then later
> christian up through the middle ages and the impacts of clashes of
> christians and islam.

I never took anything like that. My friend took Sephardic Judaism in college
and took me as his date to their potluck. They were supposed to bring
suitable foods. I remember things like hummus, vegetables and fruit. He was
stunned that nobody touched his chicken and broccoli casserole. I did try a
bite given my aversion to broccoli, I didn't like it. I do remember someone
asking him what was in it. It had some kind of cream soup.

I had a Jewish roommate at the time. I didn't know much of Jewish dietary
law then. I only knew that he had his own shelf in the refrigerator. If he
used the oven, he only only used foil pans. He used disposable plates, cups,
etc.

I did not realize that combining meat and dairy was a big no no until I had
a birthday party for Angela. One neighbor was Jewish. I followed her
guidelines to a tee, including buying the meat from a kosher deli and
keeping the meat separate from the cheese in the fridge. I even bought new
platters to serve the food on.

So... My friend obviously did not research the Jewish dietary laws very well
for that party.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:47:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want people
>> > to think I was ignoring them.
>> >
>> > I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology, religion,
>> > tons of stuff about Native Americans and their plight, alcohol and
>> > druge abuse, family structure, gender differences, ect.
>> >
>> > In 9th grade, I remember that we acted out how a bill was passed in
>> > the senate and we dscussed Republicans and Democrats. My 11th grade
>> > teacher was a Socialist. She had us listen to a speaker from the
>> > Socialist Worker's Party and also someone from the Bob Burke (I
>> > think that was the name) group which I gather was far right wing.
>> > Don't know if they're even still around.
>> >
>> > Many of my teachers were high and just sort of floated through
>> > class, excusing us to go do whatever. I really didn't learn much.
>>
>> 9th grade class with the teacher that was high was your Civics class.
>> General curriculum puts Civics in 9th grade.
>> Janet US
>
> School systems vary by state, or did then. Please do not assume.

Right. And my mom (who worked for the school dist.) told me that we were in
an experimental program. She did not know this while I was in school. She
found out some years later in going through old documents. She got the job
after I graduated. Computer systems were still not all that common yet or at
least did not have the capabilities that they do now. She typed up the old
documents on something called a Wang Word Processor.

My brother was three years behind me in school. Many of his class offerings
were not options when I was in school. I had no math beyond the 9th grade.
It wasn't required then.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:11:13 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:47:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I did try to make a few replies but could not. I didn't want
>> > > > people to think I was ignoring them.
>> > > >
>> > > > I took Social Studies which covered dating, psychology,
>> > > > religion, tons of stuff about Native Americans and their
>> > > > plight, alcohol and druge abuse, family structure, gender
>> > > > differences, ect.
>> > > >
>> > > > In 9th grade, I remember that we acted out how a bill was
>> > > > passed in the senate and we dscussed Republicans and Democrats.
>> > > > My 11th grade teacher was a Socialist. She had us listen to a
>> > > > speaker from the Socialist Worker's Party and also someone from
>> > > > the Bob Burke (I think that was the name) group which I gather
>> > > > was far right wing. Don't know if they're even still around.
>> > > >
>> > > > Many of my teachers were high and just sort of floated through
>> > > > class, excusing us to go do whatever. I really didn't learn
>> > > > much.
>> > >
>> > > 9th grade class with the teacher that was high was your Civics
>> > > class. General curriculum puts Civics in 9th grade.
>> > > Janet US
>> >
>> > I don't think it even falls under civics. That's more sociology
>> > which is 11th and 12th grade. "Social studies" didn't include
>> > topics like dating, gender, psychology, religion (except religious
>> > wars), alcohol/drug abuse... I don't know what planet she lived on
>> > at that time, probably not Bothell.
>> >
>> I grew up in Edmonds. My mom (who worked for the school district)
>> said we were on a trial program.It obviously didn't pan out. I had no
>> math beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>
>> > We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the late
>> > 70's/early 80's.
>>
>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>
>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>> meals and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the
>> kitchen and look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The
>> teacher did not believe her report. The only offensive foods she
>> found were molasses, corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her
>> breakfast at the time was usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She
>> waited until she got home to eat lunch because her assigned lunch
>> time was 2:00 pm.
>>
>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>> couldn't believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the
>> house. shrug
>
> LOL! Seriously! Last time I had a cake mix was probably 2015 or so?
>
> I did just get some peanut butter cookie mixes. I am not good at
> making those from scratch and Don likes them at times. I had a good
> coupon and a store sale so figured we'd have a little treat. Maybe I
> will make them tomorrow, if not, next month will do.
>
> I do have molasses and a lite Karo for baking. Brown sugar and honey
> powder too. Regular sugar for tea.

I had a few gluten free mixes for Justin when he was eating gluten free. I
once made him a pan of brownies but he didn't eat them. After rigor mortis
set in, I asked him why he didn't eat them. Reason being, he thought it was
cake. I did make a cake for his GF's birthday one year. I had very few
ingredients in the house so I used a depression era recipe that didn't
contain eggs. I think it wasn't very good but it was chocolate so I'm sure
he thought I had made one of those again. Ha!

I try not to bake much now as I can't eat the stuff and if he doesn't eat
it, it goes to waste. Mainly I buy packs of cookies at Dollar Tree. He
always eats those.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2020-10-29 3:12 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> > > On 10/28/2020 8:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > > > And WTF does that have to do with your lie about the
>> > > > > non-existent crime wave at coffee stands?
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing at all. Just an example of how things are around here.
>> > >
>> > > Okay! You just confessed to lying about the crime wave at coffee
>> > > stands. Thank you!
>> >
>> > It was pretty obvious right from the start that she was lying about
>> > that. I challenged to her cite a news report about it. It was no
>> > surprise that she was unable to post one.
>>
>> I'll repeat. If you think every crime that haw been committed makes
>> the news, you'd be wrong.
>
> Of course not!
>
> You won't find in the news that Winsor Woods area of Virginia Beach has
> had a rampant theft of Amazon boxes of porches (empty boxes dumped near
> Mt Trashmore which the police picked up and reported from the
> addresses). Apparently Amazon is making good on most of it.
>
> It all happened in a 1-2 day span about a week or so ago. Gary *might*
> on local news channels but not too likely.

We've been told on the local crime and community group that they sometimes
have to keep things hush hush when they are still looking for a criminal or
some such thing. They might give us a general warning as to approx. the
area, but they can't give out any more details.

We've witnessed arrests across the street that never make the news. And I've
seen things while driving that never make the news.

Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> Toy guns are bad.

lol Apples and oranges. Toy guns don't hurt or kill anything.

> I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns.

(silliest comment EVER in RFC or anywhere else)


> Guns are not toys.

And toy guns are NOT guns.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:03:18 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>> Toy guns are bad.
>
>lol Apples and oranges. Toy guns don't hurt or kill anything.
>
>> I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns.
>
> (silliest comment EVER in RFC or anywhere else)
>
>
>> Guns are not toys.
>
>And toy guns are NOT guns.

They might give children the impression that real guns are toys. You
also don't let kids play with toy vials of covid or with toy HIV
filled condoms or with toy Donald Trumps.

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:03:18 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>
> >> Toy guns are bad.
> >
> >lol Apples and oranges. Toy guns don't hurt or kill anything.
> >
> >> I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns.
> >
> > (silliest comment EVER in RFC or anywhere else)
> >
> >
> >> Guns are not toys.
> >
> >And toy guns are NOT guns.
>
> They might give children the impression that real guns are toys. You
> also don't let kids play with toy vials of covid or with toy HIV
> filled condoms or with toy Donald Trumps.

lol G'day, Bruce.

I got up at 3am today instead of 4am.
My body clock doesn't change an hour automatically.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:11:06 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:03:18 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Toy guns are bad.
>> >
>> >lol Apples and oranges. Toy guns don't hurt or kill anything.
>> >
>> >> I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns.
>> >
>> > (silliest comment EVER in RFC or anywhere else)
>> >
>> >
>> >> Guns are not toys.
>> >
>> >And toy guns are NOT guns.
>>
>> They might give children the impression that real guns are toys. You
>> also don't let kids play with toy vials of covid or with toy HIV
>> filled condoms or with toy Donald Trumps.
>
>lol G'day, Bruce.
>
>I got up at 3am today instead of 4am.
>My body clock doesn't change an hour automatically.

Have 2 or 3 Duvels before you go to bed.

G'day and g'night.

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:05:31 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> We're on the left coast. These days, everything we do is wrong unless we
> >> are
> >> left wingers, which I am not.
> >>
> >> I'm on a Seattle Vintage group. Someone posted a pic of the old Twin
> >> Teepees
> >> restaurant. It was so distinctive, it used to be a landmark. Some young
> >> whippersnapper took offense to the picture and went off on a diatribe
> >> about
> >> how offensive was. Demanded that the post be removed.
> >
> > That's so silly too.
> > The entire west coast seems to have more than usual
> > extreme liberal views.
> It's disgusting. I want out of here.

God forbid you should be exposed to viewpoints different from your own.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:24:15 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-10-31 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message
> >> I wasn't laughing at you for not having cake mix.
> >> It's so very rare that I buy it.
> >> I was laughing about the stupid teacher getting on your case
> >> for not having it (or other unhealthy products in your pantry)
> >
> > Yeah. It seemed to me like she wanted to prove what lousy diets we had,
> > but she was ****ed at us because we failed her.
> You should take a lesson from Tucker Carlson. He lied about having some
> damning documents. When he wad to put up or shut up he claimed they had
> been lost. When the shipper found the documents he said he was not
> going to release them. He realized that he was just digging his hole
> deeper, so he opted to drop it and hope that people will forget about
> the lie he got caught in. The smarter people in the crowd will
> remember that he had been caught in a lie and that he no longer has any
> credibility.

When I first read that story, my initial reaction was: "The dog ate your homework?"

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 6:11:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:03:18 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > >Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Toy guns are bad.
> > >
> > >lol Apples and oranges. Toy guns don't hurt or kill anything.
> > >
> > >> I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns.
> > >
> > > (silliest comment EVER in RFC or anywhere else)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Guns are not toys.
> > >
> > >And toy guns are NOT guns.
> >
> > They might give children the impression that real guns are toys. You
> > also don't let kids play with toy vials of covid or with toy HIV
> > filled condoms or with toy Donald Trumps.
> lol G'day, Bruce.
>
> I got up at 3am today instead of 4am.
> My body clock doesn't change an hour automatically.

I woke up at 3:30. My body split the difference.

I was a little surprised; I'd expected to wake up at 2:30 and not be able
to fall back to sleep.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/1/2020 6:07 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:03:18 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>> Toy guns are bad.
>>
>> lol Apples and oranges. Toy guns don't hurt or kill anything.
>>
>>> I'm not anti-gun, but I am 100% anti toy guns.
>>
>> (silliest comment EVER in RFC or anywhere else)
>>
>>
>>> Guns are not toys.
>>
>> And toy guns are NOT guns.
>
> They might give children the impression that real guns are toys. You
> also don't let kids play with toy vials of covid or with toy HIV
> filled condoms or with toy Donald Trumps.
>

IRL, kids play video games and kill people on the screen. they have no
connection with reality and some that actually did kill people thought
they would come back, just like the game.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:14:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-10-30 1:00 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> I don't see how the current U.S. population benefited from classes
>> that included sex. ed. , drugs, dating, etc., It seems to me that
>> young people were capable of finding out about stuff like that all by
>> themselves.
>
>Sex ed is probably a good idea for kids raised in families where stuff
>like that is never discussed. OTOH, it should only be taught by people
>who are capable of being honest about. My friend went to Catholic
>schools and was disgusted by the priest who taught sex ed and told his
>class that a girl can get pregnant by holding onto a boy's penis for 10
>seconds.

Are you saying that's not true?

===

That word was never used by our Nuns!

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 10/30/2020 10:39 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 10/30/2020 7:27 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:17:46 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/30/2020 7:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-10-30 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:48:54 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-10-30 5:22 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> beyond the 9th grade. It wasn't required in High School.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We studied that stuff in a subject/class called "Health" in the
>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>> 70's/early 80's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took that in combination with Sex Ed. Again, more warnings about
>>>>>>> drugs. We learned first aid as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angela's health class involved a diet section. She had to list her
>>>>>>> meals
>>>>>>> and snacks for two weeks. She also had to go through the kitchen and
>>>>>>> look for offensive items like things with HFCS. The teacher did not
>>>>>>> believe her report. The only offensive foods she found were
>>>>>>> molasses,
>>>>>>> corn syrup and various forms of sugar. Her breakfast at the time was
>>>>>>> usually raw baby carrots or an apple. She waited until she got home
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> eat lunch because her assigned lunch time was 2:00 pm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I went to the parent's night, the teacher lit into me. She
>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>> believe that I didn't have things like cake mix in the house.
>>>>>>> *shrug*
>>>>>> A teacher lit into you because you didn't have things like cake
>>>>>> mix???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BULLSHIT !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Although Julie writes poorly, my takeaway was that the teacher thought
>>>>> Julie was lying when she stated she did not have cake mix in her
>>>>> house.
>>>>
>>>> In that case, I will have to assume she had experienced dealing with
>>>> Julie and knew that she is factually challenged.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW. I do not have a cake mix in the house. There has not been one
>>>> here
>>>> for more than 10 years, and not many before that. We really do not
>>>> eat
>>>> much in the line of process or prepared foods. We used to have the odd
>>>> jar of pasta sauce or can of soup or baked beans. Even those were
>>>> rarely
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How would the topic of cake mix even come up?
>>
>> Because her teacher didn't believe that she just ate carrots and apples.
>>
>
>
> And how would THAT even come up?

Did you read where students kept a two week log of meals and snacks? The
audit of pantry? Part of a class project. I have no idea how many but
a lot of homes with kids would have cake mix instead of from scratch.

=====

I am wondering how I ever existed! I have never had cake mix in my house