Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 2:41:57 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:28:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 2:23:19 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:01:07 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 1:27:47 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:06:40 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 12:39:33 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 06:52:52 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've known him since we were teenagers. We were both on alt.punk
>>>>>>>>> for years before we were here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It could be that he just gets along well with juveniles because his
>>>>>>>>>> medical / mental condition makes meaningful dialogue with them easier
>>>>>>>>>> than with most adults. Or, they are lighter to manipulate when that is
>>>>>>>>>> needed, or less disposed to become violent, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You prefer to believe that he does not have a sexual interest in the vulvas
>>>>>>>>> of young girls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You call this a ceasefire?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John wrote the magic words. He fired the first shot. I guess some other
>>>>>>> nurse is going to *get to do* the procedures that he was so hoping that
>>>>>>> he'd get to do. You know he's never gotten into a serious relationship
>>>>>>> with a girl who was older than 14. He's over 60, and he's never gotten
>>>>>>> into a serious relationship with a girl who was older than 14.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand why you're so offended when John calls you a
>>>>>> narcissist. You are a narcissist or you're not. Whether John calls you
>>>>>> one doesn't change reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Look, Bruce, I'm never going to convince you that schadenfreude can be
>>>>> joyous, and you're never going to convince me it isn't. What's fun is
>>>>> knowing that John really does know that he'll never again get to pediatric
>>>>> nurse again, and that adds another barrier, another level of suspension of
>>>>> disbelief to overcome in his masturbatory fantasies. Yep, *that sinking
>>>>> feeling*.
>>>> That has nothing to do with what I said.
>>>
>>> So, I don't get to hate folks who insult me? Well, hmmmph!
>> Is it an insult? Asshole is an insult. Narcissist is a diagnosis or an
>> attempt at diagnosis.
>>
> Asshole is part of the body. To illustrate this, I will use asshole in a sentence.
> John enjoyed licking his married, Nepalese housemate's asshole.
>>
>> Trump's a narcissist. 70 million Americans love him!
>
> Narcissist is an insult.
>
> --Bryan
>

Relax man, and go with the flow. Druce is just getting off by
sniffing your asshole.

Eat a big bowl of pinto beans, a pound of Limburger cheese, and
drink lots of beer. Make the poor guy happy tomorrow. He might even
become so ecstatic that he reads your book.

I can already hear the clicking of wooden shoes.

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:08:31 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:47:02 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 2:41:57 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:28:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I don't get to hate folks who insult me? Well, hmmmph!
>>> Is it an insult? Asshole is an insult. Narcissist is a diagnosis or an
>>> attempt at diagnosis.
>>>
>>Asshole is part of the body. To illustrate this, I will use asshole in a sentence.
>>John enjoyed licking his married, Nepalese housemate's asshole.
>>>
>>> Trump's a narcissist. 70 million Americans love him!
>>
>>Narcissist is an insult.
>>
>Maybe to a narcissist.

By the way, quite a few people here always go on about themselves and
never show an interest in anybody else, John being one of the best
examples. I don't think they're all narcissists.

Doppelgänger wrote:

> Bruce was thinking very hard :
> ...
> > I don't understand why you're so offended when John calls you a
> > narcissist. You are a narcissist or you're not. Whether John calls you
> > one doesn't change reality.
> >
> I used to be a narcissist but now look at me.


I figger it was the "vulva" part of Bryan's post that "threw" me.

On 2020 Nov 20, , Bryan Simmons wrote
(in >):

>
> You don't have anything I want. You're just one more wacky misfit in the
> collection of wacky misfits (I include myself) that make this NG what it is.
> In fact, one of the best things about this NG is that pretty much nobody
> sucks up to anyone else to get approval, and folks don't seem to jockey
> to get acceptance or popularity. There are some long-running hostilities,
> and even hints at pseudo-alliances, but no cliques. Plus, the quality of
> the writing here is a lot better that elsewhere on social media, and that's
> not just attributable to the fact that most folks here are older. I don't
> have to suppress my inner grammar cop to anywhere near the extent
> that I did on FB.

Didn´t there used to be a cabal here? Wasn´t Melba a part of it? Didn´t
everyone deny it? Weren´t some here now a part of it? Does it still exist?
Hmmmm...makes me shiver.

leo

On 2020 Nov 21, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Trump's a narcissist. 70 million Americans love him!

In this World there is a human spectrum. There are narcissists, there are
individualists, there are individualists that step above and run companies,
there are individualists that step above and run sheeple, and there are
sheeple. ThatEURTMs it. You can see where the conflict occurs.

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:46:28 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Nov 21, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Trump's a narcissist. 70 million Americans love him!
>
>In this World there is a human spectrum. There are narcissists, there are
>individualists, there are individualists that step above and run companies,
>there are individualists that step above and run sheeple, and there are
>sheeple. ThatâEURTMs it. You can see where the conflict occurs.

I guess Trump's the type who runs sheeple (and runs companies into the
ground).

On 2020 Nov 21, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:46:28 -0800, >
> wrote:
> > In this World there is a human spectrum. There are narcissists, there are
> > individualists, there are individualists that step above and run companies,
> > there are individualists that step above and run sheeple, and there are
> > sheeple. ThatEURTMs it. You can see where the conflict occurs.
>
> I guess Trump's the type who runs sheeple (and runs companies into the
> ground).

Sure, why not. Otherwise, I am concerned with how my newsreader is
occasionally presenting apostrophes, quotes and double quotes. I wrote
That(apostrophe)s it. I see(EURTM) as an apostrophe. Sometimes I see
Chinese characters as apostrophes. Do you see that? Seriously. I think I´m
going to alt.test, but I would like an answer.

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 01:28:15 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Nov 21, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:46:28 -0800, >
>> wrote:
>> > In this World there is a human spectrum. There are narcissists, there are
>> > individualists, there are individualists that step above and run companies,
>> > there are individualists that step above and run sheeple, and there are
>> > sheeple. ThatâEURTMs it. You can see where the conflict occurs.
>>
>> I guess Trump's the type who runs sheeple (and runs companies into the
>> ground).
>
>Sure, why not. Otherwise, I am concerned with how my newsreader is
>occasionally presenting apostrophes, quotes and double quotes. I wrote
>That(apostrophe)s it. I see(âEURTM) as an apostrophe. Sometimes I see
>Chinese characters as apostrophes. Do you see that? Seriously. I think I´m
>going to alt.test, but I would like an answer.

I think that's very complex stuff about character sets and conversions
between them. The way I see it, the simple, standard straight
apostrophe ' always gets displayed correctly, but when you use curly
ones or otherwise fancy ones, it goes wrong. Maybe on smartphones
fancy ones are the standard ones?

On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 8:52:47 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> Doppelgänger wrote:
>
> > Bruce was thinking very hard :
> > ...
> > > I don't understand why you're so offended when John calls you a
> > > narcissist. You are a narcissist or you're not. Whether John calls you
> > > one doesn't change reality.
> > >
> > I used to be a narcissist but now look at me.
> I figger it was the "vulva" part of Bryan's post that "threw" me.

See why I'm not under any illusuions that my book is publishable?

**********
"Used to be, people were uncomfortable with 'vagina,' but now they use vagina
when they really mean, 'vulva.' See? Vulva is a beautiful word, but it's too
beautiful. If I just had a tube for the semen to go in, and the baby to come out,
I wouldn't be what I am." Winter had parked, but no one was getting out.
"Saying vagina like that is insulting to women. It's like denying every other
aspect of my vulva, and I'm not OK with that. I'm not just some receptacle.. My
vulva is beautiful, and you both love it. I don't want either of you to ever say
pussy or even vagina unless you are specifying vagina." Winter looked back at
Ian, "I don't call your penis a cock. You're not a rooster. People use euphemisms
because they are ashamed, even if just a little. Even if just a little isn't alright."
**********

"Winter's sex words rant" continues on, but I think folks are squirming enough.
It was praised by the late Betty Dodson, who gave me written permission to use
the following blurb:

"[Winter's sex words] rant was brilliant...If only more men (and women) thought
like this our sex lives would be greatly improved."
--Betty Dodson, renowned sex educator and author of Sex for One and Orgasms for Two.

If you don't know who she was:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/03/s...dson-dead.html

She also wrote, "A labor of love in many senses. Yes, you can include my statement.
Just so you know, few of us ever earn any money from book publishing. Like I said,
its a labor of love!"

--Bryan

On 2020 Nov 22, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> I think that's very complex stuff about character sets and conversions
> between them. The way I see it, the simple, standard straight
> apostrophe ' always gets displayed correctly, but when you use curly
> ones or otherwise fancy ones, it goes wrong. Maybe on smartphones
> fancy ones are the standard ones?

Dunno yet. I have gone from UTF-8 to ISO Latin 1 (8 bit) with crazy
characters. Now I´m trying ISO Latin 1 (7 bit) starting now. If anyone sees
nutty characters instead of an apostrophe or quote from now on, first I will
dink with my fonts and second, contact the developer. I don´t have a
"smart quotes" option to turn off, and I am seeing smart quotes quoted as
such right now.
I don´t even recognize what I write, and it´s pure genius ;-)

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:08:17 AM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
>
> I don´t even recognize what I write, and it´s pure genius ;-)

If it's too genius, no one will read it.

--Bryan

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:08:08 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Nov 22, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> I think that's very complex stuff about character sets and conversions
>> between them. The way I see it, the simple, standard straight
>> apostrophe ' always gets displayed correctly, but when you use curly
>> ones or otherwise fancy ones, it goes wrong. Maybe on smartphones
>> fancy ones are the standard ones?
>
>Dunno yet. I have gone from UTF-8 to ISO Latin 1 (8 bit) with crazy
>characters. Now I´m trying ISO Latin 1 (7 bit) starting now. If anyone sees
>nutty characters instead of an apostrophe or quote from now on, first I will
>dink with my fonts and second, contact the developer. I don´t have a
>"smart quotes" option to turn off, and I am seeing smart quotes quoted as
>such right now.

It can also be on the recipient's side.

>I don´t even recognize what I write, and it´s pure genius ;-)

Yes, a real genius doesn't even realise it. We have that in common.

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:35:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:08:08 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
> >On 2020 Nov 22, , Bruce wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> I think that's very complex stuff about character sets and conversions
> >> between them. The way I see it, the simple, standard straight
> >> apostrophe ' always gets displayed correctly, but when you use curly
> >> ones or otherwise fancy ones, it goes wrong. Maybe on smartphones
> >> fancy ones are the standard ones?
> >
> >Dunno yet. I have gone from UTF-8 to ISO Latin 1 (8 bit) with crazy
> >characters. Now I´m trying ISO Latin 1 (7 bit) starting now. If anyone sees
> >nutty characters instead of an apostrophe or quote from now on, first I will
> >dink with my fonts and second, contact the developer. I don´t have a
> >"smart quotes" option to turn off, and I am seeing smart quotes quoted as
> >such right now.
> It can also be on the recipient's side.
> >I don´t even recognize what I write, and it´s pure genius ;-)
> Yes, a real genius doesn't even realise it. We have that in common.

But the moment you realize that you're a real genius who doesn't realize it,
you've realized it, and your "real genius" status just goes, "Poof," and it's gone.
Or you could spend 35+ years drinking too much, and watch it slowly slip away.

--Bryan

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:54:10 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:35:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:08:08 -0800, Leo >
>> wrote:
>> >On 2020 Nov 22, , Bruce wrote
>> >(in >):
>> >
>> >> I think that's very complex stuff about character sets and conversions
>> >> between them. The way I see it, the simple, standard straight
>> >> apostrophe ' always gets displayed correctly, but when you use curly
>> >> ones or otherwise fancy ones, it goes wrong. Maybe on smartphones
>> >> fancy ones are the standard ones?
>> >
>> >Dunno yet. I have gone from UTF-8 to ISO Latin 1 (8 bit) with crazy
>> >characters. Now I´m trying ISO Latin 1 (7 bit) starting now. If anyone sees
>> >nutty characters instead of an apostrophe or quote from now on, first I will
>> >dink with my fonts and second, contact the developer. I don´t have a
>> >"smart quotes" option to turn off, and I am seeing smart quotes quoted as
>> >such right now.
>> It can also be on the recipient's side.
>> >I don´t even recognize what I write, and it´s pure genius ;-)
>> Yes, a real genius doesn't even realise it. We have that in common.
>
>But the moment you realize that you're a real genius who doesn't realize it,
>you've realized it, and your "real genius" status just goes, "Poof," and it's gone.
>Or you could spend 35+ years drinking too much, and watch it slowly slip away.

Oh well, that can't apply to me since I'm not a genius. As far as I
know.

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 5:00:12 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:54:10 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:35:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:08:08 -0800, Leo >
> >> wrote:
> >> >On 2020 Nov 22, , Bruce wrote
> >> >(in >):
> >> >
> >> >> I think that's very complex stuff about character sets and conversions
> >> >> between them. The way I see it, the simple, standard straight
> >> >> apostrophe ' always gets displayed correctly, but when you use curly
> >> >> ones or otherwise fancy ones, it goes wrong. Maybe on smartphones
> >> >> fancy ones are the standard ones?
> >> >
> >> >Dunno yet. I have gone from UTF-8 to ISO Latin 1 (8 bit) with crazy
> >> >characters. Now I´m trying ISO Latin 1 (7 bit) starting now. If anyone sees
> >> >nutty characters instead of an apostrophe or quote from now on, first I will
> >> >dink with my fonts and second, contact the developer. I don´t have a
> >> >"smart quotes" option to turn off, and I am seeing smart quotes quoted as
> >> >such right now.
> >> It can also be on the recipient's side.
> >> >I don´t even recognize what I write, and it´s pure genius ;-)
> >> Yes, a real genius doesn't even realise it. We have that in common.
> >
> >But the moment you realize that you're a real genius who doesn't realize it,
> >you've realized it, and your "real genius" status just goes, "Poof," and it's gone.
> >Or you could spend 35+ years drinking too much, and watch it slowly slip away.
> Oh well, that can't apply to me since I'm not a genius. As far as I
> know.

It's not all it's cracked up to be. Drinking beer is way better.

--Bryan

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:46:28 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
>
> >On 2020 Nov 21, , Bruce wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> Trump's a narcissist. 70 million Americans love him!
> >
> >In this World there is a human spectrum. There are narcissists, there are
> >individualists, there are individualists that step above and run companies,
> >there are individualists that step above and run sheeple, and there are
> >sheeple. ThatâEURTMs it. You can see where the conflict occurs.
>
> I guess Trump's the type who runs sheeple (and runs companies into the
> ground).

You should read *all* of this, Bruce. It's not very long but a
decent summary.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/08/...-bankruptcies/

On 11/22/2020 2:18 AM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Nov 20, , Bryan Simmons wrote
> (in >):
>
>>
>> You don't have anything I want. You're just one more wacky misfit in the
>> collection of wacky misfits (I include myself) that make this NG what it is.
>> In fact, one of the best things about this NG is that pretty much nobody
>> sucks up to anyone else to get approval, and folks don't seem to jockey
>> to get acceptance or popularity. There are some long-running hostilities,
>> and even hints at pseudo-alliances, but no cliques. Plus, the quality of
>> the writing here is a lot better that elsewhere on social media, and that's
>> not just attributable to the fact that most folks here are older. I don't
>> have to suppress my inner grammar cop to anywhere near the extent
>> that I did on FB.
>
> Didn´t there used to be a cabal here? Wasn´t Melba a part of it? Didn´t
> everyone deny it? Weren´t some here now a part of it? Does it still exist?
> Hmmmm...makes me shiver.
>
> leo
>
>
TINC

Jill

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:18:04 -0800, Leo wrote:

> Didn't there used to be a cabal here? [...] Does it still exist?

Sure is / does, yes. But maybe it's a different cabal. I am certain we
are on their radar, but so far, they have only made concerted use of one
retarded Canadian that everyone here has pretty much instinctively
avoided since he showed-up a few months ago.

Hint, his posting nym is a minor deity in the pantheon of C++ operators,
and someone doxed him in Alt.Atheism a few weeks back. (Dave Keating -
British Columbia).

He apparently won a few $M in a lottery a few years back, but instead of
spending his remaining time on Earth enjoying the good things of life, he
seeks negative attention by posting scantily-reasoned juvenile non-
sequiters ad nauseum. He's even worse than Bruce.


Oh, and I fixed your quote. I think we all should at least try using UTF-8
as the default encoding if the client supports it.

On 2020-11-22 2:18 a.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Nov 20, , Bryan Simmons wrote
> (in >):
>
>>
>> You don't have anything I want. You're just one more wacky misfit in the
>> collection of wacky misfits (I include myself) that make this NG what it is.
>> In fact, one of the best things about this NG is that pretty much nobody
>> sucks up to anyone else to get approval, and folks don't seem to jockey
>> to get acceptance or popularity. There are some long-running hostilities,
>> and even hints at pseudo-alliances, but no cliques. Plus, the quality of
>> the writing here is a lot better that elsewhere on social media, and that's
>> not just attributable to the fact that most folks here are older. I don't
>> have to suppress my inner grammar cop to anywhere near the extent
>> that I did on FB.
>
> Didn´t there used to be a cabal here? Wasn´t Melba a part of it? Didn´t
> everyone deny it? Weren´t some here now a part of it? Does it still exist?
> Hmmmm...makes me shiver.
>
> '

I remember there being a standing joke about the cabal.

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 9:46:26 AM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:18:04 -0800, Leo wrote:
>
> > Didn't there used to be a cabal here? [...] Does it still exist?
>
> Sure is / does, yes. But maybe it's a different cabal. I am certain we
> are on their radar, but so far, they have only made concerted use of one
> retarded Canadian that everyone here has pretty much instinctively
> avoided since he showed-up a few months ago.
>
> Hint, his posting nym is a minor deity in the pantheon of C++ operators,
> and someone doxed him in Alt.Atheism a few weeks back. (Dave Keating -
> British Columbia).
>
> He apparently won a few $M in a lottery a few years back, but instead of
> spending his remaining time on Earth enjoying the good things of life, he
> seeks negative attention by posting scantily-reasoned juvenile non-
> sequiters ad nauseum. He's even worse than Bruce.
>
>
> Oh, and I fixed your quote. I think we all should at least try using UTF-8
> as the default encoding if the client supports it.

Say what you want about the Canadians, but they make an awfully good
diet ginger ale, and when I was kid, they had pollock jokes, and maybe the
Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
remover.
https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU

--Bryan

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 10:21:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 9:46:26 AM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:18:04 -0800, Leo wrote:
> >
> > > Didn't there used to be a cabal here? [...] Does it still exist?
> >
> > Sure is / does, yes. But maybe it's a different cabal. I am certain we
> > are on their radar, but so far, they have only made concerted use of one
> > retarded Canadian that everyone here has pretty much instinctively
> > avoided since he showed-up a few months ago.
> >
> > Hint, his posting nym is a minor deity in the pantheon of C++ operators,
> > and someone doxed him in Alt.Atheism a few weeks back. (Dave Keating -
> > British Columbia).
> >
> > He apparently won a few $M in a lottery a few years back, but instead of
> > spending his remaining time on Earth enjoying the good things of life, he
> > seeks negative attention by posting scantily-reasoned juvenile non-
> > sequiters ad nauseum. He's even worse than Bruce.
> >
> >
> > Oh, and I fixed your quote. I think we all should at least try using UTF-8
> > as the default encoding if the client supports it.
> Say what you want about the Canadians, but they make an awfully good
> diet ginger ale, and when I was kid, they had pollock jokes, and maybe the
> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> remover.
> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
>
> --Bryan
I think the Acetones make the best remover - because it's dirt cheap.

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:36:55 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 10:21:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 9:46:26 AM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:18:04 -0800, Leo wrote:
>> >
>> > > Didn't there used to be a cabal here? [...] Does it still exist?
>> >
>> > Sure is / does, yes. But maybe it's a different cabal. I am certain we
>> > are on their radar, but so far, they have only made concerted use of one
>> > retarded Canadian that everyone here has pretty much instinctively
>> > avoided since he showed-up a few months ago.
>> >
>> > Hint, his posting nym is a minor deity in the pantheon of C++ operators,
>> > and someone doxed him in Alt.Atheism a few weeks back. (Dave Keating -
>> > British Columbia).
>> >
>> > He apparently won a few $M in a lottery a few years back, but instead of
>> > spending his remaining time on Earth enjoying the good things of life, he
>> > seeks negative attention by posting scantily-reasoned juvenile non-
>> > sequiters ad nauseum. He's even worse than Bruce.
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh, and I fixed your quote. I think we all should at least try using UTF-8
>> > as the default encoding if the client supports it.
>> Say what you want about the Canadians, but they make an awfully good
>> diet ginger ale, and when I was kid, they had pollock jokes, and maybe the
>> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
>> remover.
>> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
>>
>> --Bryan
>I think the Acetones make the best remover - because it's dirt cheap.

Sounds like a band.

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 10:47:30 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:36:55 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 10:21:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 9:46:26 AM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:18:04 -0800, Leo wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Didn't there used to be a cabal here? [...] Does it still exist?
> >> >
> >> > Sure is / does, yes. But maybe it's a different cabal. I am certain we
> >> > are on their radar, but so far, they have only made concerted use of one
> >> > retarded Canadian that everyone here has pretty much instinctively
> >> > avoided since he showed-up a few months ago.
> >> >
> >> > Hint, his posting nym is a minor deity in the pantheon of C++ operators,
> >> > and someone doxed him in Alt.Atheism a few weeks back. (Dave Keating -
> >> > British Columbia).
> >> >
> >> > He apparently won a few $M in a lottery a few years back, but instead of
> >> > spending his remaining time on Earth enjoying the good things of life, he
> >> > seeks negative attention by posting scantily-reasoned juvenile non-
> >> > sequiters ad nauseum. He's even worse than Bruce.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oh, and I fixed your quote. I think we all should at least try using UTF-8
> >> > as the default encoding if the client supports it.
> >> Say what you want about the Canadians, but they make an awfully good
> >> diet ginger ale, and when I was kid, they had pollock jokes, and maybe the
> >> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> >> remover.
> >> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >I think the Acetones make the best remover - because it's dirt cheap.
> Sounds like a band.
There's no doubt that Acetones have been in many bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXMs_AlcCww

On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:


> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> remover.
> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
>
> --Bryan
>

Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php

Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
becasue he knew they could outsmart him.

On 22/11/2020 22:08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
>> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
>> remover.
>> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>
> Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart.Â* Sabin's vaccine still
> works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
>
Marie Curie, too.

> Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> becasue he knew they could outsmart him.

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:08:57 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
> > Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> > remover.
> > https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php

I don't believe that stuff, but I grew up in a family where pollock, wap,
wetback, etc. were part of the dinnertime lexicon. The way you snipped the
post made it look like I thought Polish people were not intelligent.
>
> Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> becasue he knew they could outsmart him.

Hitler was (in addition to being evil and crazy), really stupid. If you want to
develop technology to take over the world, you don't get rid of your Jews.
*We don't need your kind in the 3rd Reich, Mr. Einstein.*

--Bryan

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 12:16:48 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 22/11/2020 22:08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> >> remover.
> >> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> > works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> > https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
> >
> Marie Curie, too.
> > Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> > becasue he knew they could outsmart him.
We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes. That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express their true feelings. Maybe one day.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
> > Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> > remover.
> > https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
>
> Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> becasue he knew they could outsmart him.


Don't forget the Solidarity trade movement that - along with the influence of Polish Pope John Paul II - led to the utter failure of USSR - enforced communism in the central/eastern European states in 1989, and the dissolution of the USSR itself in 1991.

Poland had the first free elections in postwar communist Europe in summer 1989, by November the Berlin Wall fell, the Czechs and others threw off the evil communist yoke, and the world is a much better place for all that. The world owes the brave Poles a HUGE debt of gratitude for starting that process of toppling the evil commie rat ******* dominoes...

Additionally, during the 2008 - 2009 world economic crisis, not only was Poland fairly unaffected, but the Polish economy also grew at a decent rate. Not too shabby for what Bryan refers to as "not the smartest folks on the planet"...Poland has done very well in the past 30 years, they went from a poor communist backwater to an advanced modern industrial nation:

Wiki: "Poland is classified as a high-income economy by the World Bank and ranks 21st worldwide in terms of GDP (nominal) as well as 24th in the 2017 Ease of Doing Business Index. Poland has a highly diverse economy that ranks 21st in the 2016 Economic Complexity Index. The largest component of its economy is the service sector (62.3.%), followed by industry (34.2%) and agriculture (3.5%)..."

</>

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:32:35 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 12:16:48 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 22/11/2020 22:08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> > >> remover.
> > >> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> > >>
> > >> --Bryan
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> > > works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> > > https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
> > >
> > Marie Curie, too.
> > > Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> > > becasue he knew they could outsmart him.
> We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the
> intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks
> on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes.

Nobody thinks that.

> That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express
> their true feelings. Maybe one day.

There are plenty of Polish-Americans in St. Louis. Few of them would pretend
to be OK with Polish jokes, yet you can bet your ass that a good percentage of
them harbor racist feelings about Americans of non-European ancestry. The
way that I worded my joke, most folks would realize that I was making fun of
stereotyping. "Polish remover" is obviously not Polish, like Canada Dry ginger
ale is not Canadian.

--Bryan

wrote:

> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:32:35 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 12:16:48 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > > On 22/11/2020 22:08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> > > >> remover.
> > > >> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> > > >>
> > > >> --Bryan
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> > > > works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> > > > https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
> > > >
> > > Marie Curie, too.
> > > > Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> > > > becasue he knew they could outsmart him.
> > We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the
> > intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks
> > on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes.
> Nobody thinks that.
> > That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express
> > their true feelings. Maybe one day.
> There are plenty of Polish-Americans in St. Louis. Few of them would pretend
> to be OK with Polish jokes, yet you can bet your ass that a good percentage of
> them harbor racist feelings about Americans of non-European ancestry. The
> way that I worded my joke, most folks would realize that I was making fun of
> stereotyping. "Polish remover" is obviously not Polish, like Canada Dry ginger
> ale is not Canadian.


In any case your Polish "jokes" exhibit the same level of "skill" as your fiction jotterings, e.g. "NOT MUCH..."

--
Best
Greg

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 1:01:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:32:35 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 12:16:48 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > > On 22/11/2020 22:08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> > > >> remover.
> > > >> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> > > >>
> > > >> --Bryan
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> > > > works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> > > > https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
> > > >
> > > Marie Curie, too.
> > > > Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> > > > becasue he knew they could outsmart him.
> > We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the
> > intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks
> > on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes.
> Nobody thinks that.
> > That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express
> > their true feelings. Maybe one day.
> There are plenty of Polish-Americans in St. Louis. Few of them would pretend
> to be OK with Polish jokes, yet you can bet your ass that a good percentage of
> them harbor racist feelings about Americans of non-European ancestry. The
> way that I worded my joke, most folks would realize that I was making fun of
> stereotyping. "Polish remover" is obviously not Polish, like Canada Dry ginger
> ale is not Canadian.
>
> --Bryan
Everybody knows what Polish jokes are and what they mean. Who the heck knows what Black or Japanese jokes are? I'm not concerned about how Polish-Americans feel about non-white people. My point is that the the Poles hold a special position in the US as far as being the butt of a specific type of joke.

OTOH, ethnic jokes are pretty much the bread and butter of Hawaiian humor. The difference from mainland ethnic humor is that it requires that the audience be familiar with the culture, customs, and behavior of Filipinos, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, et al. As it goes, if you're intimately aware of other people's lives and foibles, you can use that knowledge to connect with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmeC00UIDvI

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:28:54 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:


> Hitler was (in addition to being evil and crazy), really stupid.

Vegetarian. 'Nuff said.

On 11/22/2020 7:38 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:28:54 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
>> Hitler was (in addition to being evil and crazy), really stupid.
>
> Vegetarian. 'Nuff said.
>
Hitler also had untreated syphilis that rotted his brain. 'Nuff said.

Jill

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:38:28 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:28:54 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
> > Hitler was (in addition to being evil and crazy), really stupid.
> Vegetarian. 'Nuff said.

Maybe he was grossed out by meat. I doubt that it was out of compassion
for animals. He wasn't a compassionate sort. Perhaps he loved apple
streudel. That doesn't make apple streudel bad.

--Bryan

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 5:05:49 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:32:35 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 12:16:48 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > > > On 22/11/2020 22:08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > On 11/22/2020 3:21 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Poles ain't the smartest folks on the planet, but they make a damned good
> > > > >> remover.
> > > > >> https://www.amazon.com/OPI-Polish-Re.../dp/B001RVFZQU
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --Bryan
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, that Copernicus guy was not very smart. Sabin's vaccine still
> > > > > works and Werner von Braun was born in Poland.
> > > > > https://www.thefamouspeople.com/polish-scientists.php
> > > > >
> > > > Marie Curie, too.
> > > > > Hitler wanted to wipe out the Polish scientists along with the Jews
> > > > > becasue he knew they could outsmart him.
> > > We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the
> > > intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks
> > > on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes.
> > Nobody thinks that.
> > > That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express
> > > their true feelings. Maybe one day.
> > There are plenty of Polish-Americans in St. Louis. Few of them would pretend
> > to be OK with Polish jokes, yet you can bet your ass that a good percentage of
> > them harbor racist feelings about Americans of non-European ancestry. The
> > way that I worded my joke, most folks would realize that I was making fun of
> > stereotyping. "Polish remover" is obviously not Polish, like Canada Dry ginger
> > ale is not Canadian.
> In any case your Polish "jokes" exhibit the same level of "skill" as your fiction jotterings, e.g. "NOT MUCH..."

Your opinions about my writing skills mean nothing to me. You're a grown man who
is still trying to fit in with the guys who persecuted you when you were a teenager. If
I were nicer, I'd find that pitiable rather than pathetic.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

--Bryan

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:19:31 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 1:01:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:32:35 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:

>> > We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the
>> > intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks
>> > on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes.
>> Nobody thinks that.
>> > That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express
>> > their true feelings. Maybe one day.
>> There are plenty of Polish-Americans in St. Louis. Few of them would pretend
>> to be OK with Polish jokes, yet you can bet your ass that a good percentage of
>> them harbor racist feelings about Americans of non-European ancestry. The
>> way that I worded my joke, most folks would realize that I was making fun of
>> stereotyping. "Polish remover" is obviously not Polish, like Canada Dry ginger
>> ale is not Canadian.
>>
>> --Bryan
>Everybody knows what Polish jokes are and what they mean. Who the heck knows what Black or Japanese jokes are? I'm not concerned about how Polish-Americans feel about non-white people. My point is that the the Poles hold a special position in the US as far as being the butt of a specific type of joke.
>
>OTOH, ethnic jokes are pretty much the bread and butter of Hawaiian humor. The difference from mainland ethnic humor is that it requires that the audience be familiar with the culture, customs, and behavior of Filipinos, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, et al. As it goes, if you're intimately aware of other people's lives and foibles, you can use that knowledge to connect with them.
..
So, all in all, would you say that Hawaiians are very special people?

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:47:47 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:38:28 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:28:54 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Hitler was (in addition to being evil and crazy), really stupid.
>> Vegetarian. 'Nuff said.
>
>Maybe he was grossed out by meat. I doubt that it was out of compassion
>for animals. He wasn't a compassionate sort. Perhaps he loved apple
>streudel. That doesn't make apple streudel bad.

"Some modern-day analyses have speculated that Hitler's vegetarianism
may have been for health reasons due to Richard Wagner's historical
theories, or even a psychological reaction to his niece's death rather
than a commitment to animal welfare. In contrast, several eyewitness
sources maintain Hitler was a vegetarian because of his concern for
animal suffering, noting that he was often distressed by images of
animal cruelty and suffering, and was an antivivisectionist."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism>

We can't ask Hitler, because he's not here. See the difference, Jill?

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 3:40:56 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:19:31 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 1:01:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 4:32:35 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >> > We don't have Polish jokes on this rock. It's a bad thing to make fun of the
> >> > intelligence of a people. Also, we don't have any Poles over here. Some folks
> >> > on the mainland think Polish-Americans enjoy Polish jokes.
> >> Nobody thinks that.
> >> > That's because there's not enough Polish-Americans yet for them to express
> >> > their true feelings. Maybe one day.
> >> There are plenty of Polish-Americans in St. Louis. Few of them would pretend
> >> to be OK with Polish jokes, yet you can bet your ass that a good percentage of
> >> them harbor racist feelings about Americans of non-European ancestry. The
> >> way that I worded my joke, most folks would realize that I was making fun of
> >> stereotyping. "Polish remover" is obviously not Polish, like Canada Dry ginger
> >> ale is not Canadian.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >Everybody knows what Polish jokes are and what they mean. Who the heck knows what Black or Japanese jokes are? I'm not concerned about how Polish-Americans feel about non-white people. My point is that the the Poles hold a special position in the US as far as being the butt of a specific type of joke.
> >
> >OTOH, ethnic jokes are pretty much the bread and butter of Hawaiian humor. The difference from mainland ethnic humor is that it requires that the audience be familiar with the culture, customs, and behavior of Filipinos, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, et al. As it goes, if you're intimately aware of other people's lives and foibles, you can use that knowledge to connect with them.
> .
> So, all in all, would you say that Hawaiians are very special people?
That question is not mine to answer.

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:19:31 -0800, dsi1 wrote:

> My point is that the the Poles hold a special position
> in the US as far as being the butt of a specific type of joke.

In the past, they held such, but now we all realize that the reason they
didn't complain about those jokes was because they essentially were/are
mature & self-confident enough not to be bothered by boors.


As contrast, look at the special place Newfoundlanders have in Canada as
the butt of jokes against under-educated simpletons. Try a net search:
'Newfie Joke'.

On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-10, Mike Duffy wrote:
> In the past, they held such, but now we all realize that the reason they
> didn't complain about those jokes was because they essentially were/are
> mature & self-confident enough not to be bothered by boors.

Mostly it's because there's a few of them and a lot of yoose. That's the reason people think that Polish-Americans enjoy a good pollock joke. Try telling a joke about how stupid the Poles are in a room full of Poles and see where that gets you. I'm guessing that would get you kicked out the door.