On 2020 Dec 1, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned chili.
> Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!

When I was younger, I made "Leo´s Famous Venison Chili." Nobody wanted
any, so I now buy the canned stuff. My SIL told me, after seeing your post,
that there are Walkin´ Tacos. Same type of deal with taco chips, seasoned
meat and cheese. I joined the thread late, and I think those were already
mentioned.

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 00:36:45 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>cshenk wrote:
>...
>> You know, I like to 'play with my food' and I was wondering if surime
>> (Fake lobster or crab) might be interesting to try for that.
>
> there used to be a brand of the fake crab meat that we both
>liked but something changed and we didn't like it any more.
>
> we used to buy a few packages a month at a reasonable price.
>
> i liked it well enough to eat it from the package cold with
>nothing else on it at all. also liked it with melted butter
>(with or without garlic) or cocktail sauce.
>
> haven't tried it again in about a year.
>
> and someone mentioned that they don't know where certain
>things are processed i think that now a lot of the canning
>done is done right on the ships.
>
>
> songbird

Costco carried a brand of surimi I really liked. It didn't have that
funny something taste. They stopped and I tried other brands and they
all tasted like fish that had been doctored.
Janet US

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:01:24 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 1, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> > My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> > think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned chili.
> > Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
> When I was younger, I made "Leo´s Famous Venison Chili." Nobody wanted
> any, so I now buy the canned stuff. My SIL told me, after seeing your post,
> that there are Walkin´ Tacos. Same type of deal with taco chips, seasoned
> meat and cheese. I joined the thread late, and I think those were already
> mentioned.
I'd like walkin' tacos better than Frito pie. I could go for some right now! Unfortunately, I have to settle with Cup Noodle. That's life - sometimes you get walkin' tacos and sometimes you get Cup Noodle.

"songbird" wrote in message ...

cshenk wrote:
....
> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
> guess not!

we just make big pots of beans and then freeze them in quart
jars. when we want some they thaw out quick enough. if you
drain the sludge (that's what Mom calls it) and then freeze them
you can thaw them out by running hot water on them pretty fast.
normally though i just put them in the fridge the day before and
they're thawed out well enough the next day.

i don't salt them when cooking them to begin with.

one general point about some meats is that they will have more
salt (and a reason i rarely add salt to much of anything other
than using some garlic salt on burgers when i'm frying them).


songbird

====

I rarely use any salt when cooking foods. The salt is on the table.
Help yourself

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
> > another My
> > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
> > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's delicious!
> > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up the
> > chips
> > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito
> > Pie is
> > duck soup to make.
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
> I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
> great, and I love the presentation.

My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss

=====

I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:24:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> > On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
> > (in >):
> > > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
> > > another My
> > > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
> > > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's delicious!
> > > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up the
> > > chips
> > > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito
> > > Pie is
> > > duck soup to make.
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
> > I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
> > great, and I love the presentation.
>
> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
> =====
>
> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?
They contain Fritos Corn Chips which are made with corn and are a fried salty snack. To me, it has a slightly burnt corn taste. I don't think you can find them in the UK. My guess is that the US doesn't have any to spare.

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/we-love-fritos

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:24:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> > On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
> > (in >):
> > > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
> > > another My
> > > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
> > > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
> > > delicious!
> > > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up
> > > the
> > > chips
> > > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito
> > > Pie is
> > > duck soup to make.
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
> > I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
> > great, and I love the presentation.
>
> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
> =====
>
> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?
They contain Fritos Corn Chips which are made with corn and are a fried
salty snack. To me, it has a slightly burnt corn taste. I don't think you
can find them in the UK. My guess is that the US doesn't have any to spare.

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/we-love-fritos

===

Ahh ok, thank you It has veggies mixed in and beans, things like that,
yes?

Oh yes, and that sauce? Why does it need that bag?

On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>> salt content.
>
> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
> guess not!
>

I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
charge a lot more for them.

On 2020-11-30 7:57 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Dave, do you monitor your BP several times a day? Persons who have
> high BP vary widely as to the effect that dietary sodium has on their BP.
> It's not one-size-fits-all.


Yes. I have a monitor at home and check my BP and pulse several times a
day. I took BP medication years ago but lost some weight and got lots of
exercise and BP dropped. I had been checking it regularly over the past
few years and it was always in an acceptable range. After my recent
incident they put me back on medication for BP along with some to
control my heart rate. Over the past few month or so my both have been
very low, like 95/58 and pulse in the 50s. I had a telephone
appointment with the cardiologist the other day and she halved the doses
for those medications.

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>> salt content.
>>
>> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>> guess not!
>>
>
> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
> charge a lot more for them.

And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
washing it.

Graham wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
> >>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
> >>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
> >>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
> >>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
> >>> salt content.
> >>
> >> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
> >> guess not!
> >>
> >
> > I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
> > suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
> > charge a lot more for them.
> And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
> washing it.


"Organic" is a just ruse to part you from your money, Graham...!!!

I see many boast that they "buy organic" simply as a means of "virtue - signaling"...

--
Best
Greg

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:26:58 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>>> salt content.
>>>
>>> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>>> guess not!
>>>
>>
>> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
>> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
>> charge a lot more for them.
>
>And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
>washing it.

I doubt that you only ate lettuce

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 13:50:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:24:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> > On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
>> > (in >):
>> > > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
>> > > another My
>> > > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
>> > > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
>> > > delicious!
>> > > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up
>> > > the
>> > > chips
>> > > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito
>> > > Pie is
>> > > duck soup to make.
>> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
>> > I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
>> > great, and I love the presentation.
>>
>> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
>> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
>> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
>> =====
>>
>> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?
>They contain Fritos Corn Chips which are made with corn and are a fried
>salty snack. To me, it has a slightly burnt corn taste. I don't think you
>can find them in the UK. My guess is that the US doesn't have any to spare.
>
>https://www.bonappetit.com/story/we-love-fritos
>
>===
>
> Ahh ok, thank you It has veggies mixed in and beans, things like that,
>yes?
>
> Oh yes, and that sauce? Why does it need that bag?

The Frito Corn Chips come in the bag. That is all that is in the bag.
To make Fito pie (see several of the links above) you cut the side of
the bag open. Then you put chili over the Frito chips (while still in
the bag) You dress the Fritos and chili however you like -- cheese
shreds, diced tomatoes, onions etc.
It is really better explained if you read the direction included with
the photos.

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:26:58 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>>> salt content.
>>>
>>> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>>> guess not!
>>>
>>
>> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
>> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
>> charge a lot more for them.
>
>And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
>washing it.

The woman opposite me was laid low with a shoulder replacement and I
did her grocery shopping with mine for several weeks.

She had to have everything organic and it was a noticeably higher bill
than mine and half the stuff didn't even look as nice, even though we
were buying much of the same stuff. I also found that the organic
section has stinky stuff like soap, hand cream etc. that made me feel
nauseated.

On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 14:14:17 -0400, Lucretia Borgia
> wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:26:58 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
>>> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
>>> charge a lot more for them.
>>
>>And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
>>washing it.
>
>The woman opposite me was laid low with a shoulder replacement and I
>did her grocery shopping with mine for several weeks.
>
>She had to have everything organic and it was a noticeably higher bill
>than mine and half the stuff didn't even look as nice, even though we
>were buying much of the same stuff. I also found that the organic
>section has stinky stuff like soap, hand cream etc. that made me feel
>nauseated.

Your generation can't handle organic yet. You want everything perfect
and shiny. That it's full of insecticides, herbicides and fungicides
eludes you

Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:26:58 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>>>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>>>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>>>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>>>> salt content.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>>>> guess not!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
>>> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
>>> charge a lot more for them.
>>
>> And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
>> washing it.
>
> I doubt that you only ate lettuce
>

You missed a good sniff there Druce.

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 10:27:08 AM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:12:18 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
> >>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
> >>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
> >>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
> >>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
> >>> salt content.
> >>
> >> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
> >> guess not!
> >>
> >
> > I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
> > suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
> > charge a lot more for them.
> And the last time I bought "organic" lettuce, I got the trots, despite
> washing it.
"The trots?" HA! You ain't had shit until you've had the gallops!

--Bryan

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 13:50:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:24:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> > On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
>> > (in >):
>> > > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
>> > > another My
>> > > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
>> > > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
>> > > delicious!
>> > > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up
>> > > the
>> > > chips
>> > > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a
>> > > Frito
>> > > Pie is
>> > > duck soup to make.
>> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
>> > I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
>> > great, and I love the presentation.
>>
>> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
>> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
>> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
>> =====
>>
>> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?
>They contain Fritos Corn Chips which are made with corn and are a fried
>salty snack. To me, it has a slightly burnt corn taste. I don't think you
>can find them in the UK. My guess is that the US doesn't have any to spare.
>
>https://www.bonappetit.com/story/we-love-fritos
>
>===
>
> Ahh ok, thank you It has veggies mixed in and beans, things like
> that,
>yes?
>
> Oh yes, and that sauce? Why does it need that bag?

The Frito Corn Chips come in the bag. That is all that is in the bag.
To make Fito pie (see several of the links above) you cut the side of
the bag open. Then you put chili over the Frito chips (while still in
the bag) You dress the Fritos and chili however you like -- cheese
shreds, diced tomatoes, onions etc.
It is really better explained if you read the direction included with
the photos.

=====

That's great, thanks)) I think I have it

On 12/1/2020 10:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>> little or no salt.Â* The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>> products from different companies.Â* When I was stocking up on beans
>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>> salt content.
>>
>> Interesting!Â* Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>> guess not!
>>
>
> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
> charge a lot more for them.

I believe that's exactly the assumption and any can or jar of something
that says "organic" invariably costs a lot more.

Jill

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 6:08:43 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2020-11-30 6:56 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> > > Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I have had canned chili. I bought it once and I learned from my
>> > >> experience. Besides, I am on a low sodium diet these days so
>> > prepared >> foods are out, especially canned.
>> > >
>> > > Not all canned foods are out, just learn t read the labels and
>> > > selct the versions with acceptable sodium. Generall speaking, the
>> > > more 'name brand' it is, the less acceptable sodium wise per
>> > > serving. Hunts, Heinz, Contadina tomato products for example are
>> > > horrible.
>> > >
>> > The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for
>> > the nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>> > little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>> > products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>> > last week I found that those being billed as organic had the
>> > highest salt content.
>>
>> We only use canned beans when I don't have time or motivation to cook
>> dried beans in the pressure cooker, like when I get home from work
>> wiped out. I swear, if we had a Canadian style, single payer health
>> care system, my sixty year-old ass wouldn't continue to work full
>> time for the employer subsidized health insurance.
>>
>> Dave, do you monitor your BP several times a day? Persons who have
>> high BP vary widely as to the effect that dietary sodium has on their
>> BP. It's not one-size-fits-all.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> I have some canned beans but only a few types and more the frills like
> black ones. I think I have 3 cans of them now? 1 is a black bean and
> 2 are refried pintos. Agree with you that it's not a one-size-fits-all
> deal on the sodium. Doctors will always blame salt intake as it frees
> them of litigation.

I tend to have low sodium so I have to eat more salt. I don't have to pay
attention to sodium, counts.

That being said... I made a meal the other day that was very hard for me to
eat! These are things my daughter sometimes eat, but I had never tried them.
They were purchased at the start of the pandemic. The foods I normally
bought were not available.

I can't remember the brand now but it was some kind of frozen, batter dipped
chicken tenders or strips. They were slightly expired so I air fried the
whole pkg. Plenty of batter. Not much meat.

The other was a pouch of Idahoan instant mashed potatoes and cheese. Just
add water.

I served these with canned peas. I happily ate the peas, but the chicken and
potatoes were such salt bombs. Blech! Thankfully, Justin ate the rest of the
chicken. I finished off the potatoes the following day.

I think Angela may be getting some potato packets for Christmas!

I think younger people can tolerate the taste of super salty stuff because
they've gotten used to it. So many of them don't cook from scratch. Angela
can cook some things from scratch, but she takes after my mother that way. I
remember when she wouldn't touch frozen food. Now, if it comes frozen, in a
packet or jar, etc., she's all for it! With some exceptions of course!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> I rarely use any salt when cooking foods. The salt is on the table.
> Help yourself

My mom always said that, but that doesn't work for me. Not all things I cook
have salt in them but most do. If you cook without salt, then add it at the
table, all you taste is the salt. Yuck.

If I find out that people don't cook with salt, I'll turn down diner
invitations.

"Leo" > wrote in message
vidual.Net...
On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with another
> tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
> I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's delicious!
> Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up the
> chips
> before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito Pie
> is
> duck soup to make.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9

I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
great, and I love the presentation.

---

It's a TX thing. I first heard of it in my 9th grade Home Ec class. Two boys
made it for our final cook/bake off. Everyone was impressed because we
thought they invented it. The got an F becaause they used canned chili.

My partner insisted that we make Toll House cookies. I balked because I
could make those in my sleep. She said that was exactly *why* we were going
to make them.

We were allowed two days. So we made and chilled the dough on day one. Baked
on day two. We won.

She's a lawyer now and has gone on to win many cooking/baking contests. She
lives in CA and has a HUGE garden. Her niece was on Chopped Jr. some years
back. She didn't win though.

"Mary Iwaoka" > wrote in message
...
On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:01:24 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 1, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> > My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> > think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
> > chili.
> > Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
> When I was younger, I made "Leo´s Famous Venison Chili." Nobody wanted
> any, so I now buy the canned stuff. My SIL told me, after seeing your
> post,
> that there are Walkin´ Tacos. Same type of deal with taco chips, seasoned
> meat and cheese. I joined the thread late, and I think those were already
> mentioned.
I'd like walkin' tacos better than Frito pie. I could go for some right now!
Unfortunately, I have to settle with Cup Noodle. That's life - sometimes you
get walkin' tacos and sometimes you get Cup Noodle.

I've never eaten Cup Noodle.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>> > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
>> > another My
>> > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
>> > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
>> > delicious!
>> > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up the
>> > chips
>> > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito
>> > Pie is
>> > duck soup to make.
>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
>> I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
>> great, and I love the presentation.
>
> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
>
> =====
>
> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?

Fritos. They're an extruded corn chip. Smaller and thicker than a tortilla
chip. They're my favorite chip.

I read somewhere that the original bags were foil and today's bags are
plastic. I believe this to be true. But I also read that you can't make them
in the bag now as it will melt. Not sure about that. I do mine in a bowl.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:24:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> > On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
>> > (in >):
>> > > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
>> > > another My
>> > > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
>> > > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
>> > > delicious!
>> > > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up
>> > > the
>> > > chips
>> > > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a
>> > > Frito
>> > > Pie is
>> > > duck soup to make.
>> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
>> > I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
>> > great, and I love the presentation.
>>
>> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
>> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
>> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
>> =====
>>
>> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?
> They contain Fritos Corn Chips which are made with corn and are a fried
> salty snack. To me, it has a slightly burnt corn taste. I don't think you
> can find them in the UK. My guess is that the US doesn't have any to
> spare.
>
> https://www.bonappetit.com/story/we-love-fritos
>
> ===
>
> Ahh ok, thank you It has veggies mixed in and beans, things like
> that, yes?
>
> Oh yes, and that sauce? Why does it need that bag?

It's just chili served over Fritos. Does not need the bag but it is served
that way so you can walk around, eating it from the bag and not have dirty
dishes. Just throw the bag away when done.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>> salt content.
>>
>> Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>> guess not!
>>
>
> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
> charge a lot more for them.

I know people who are terrified of the word "organic" and won't eat the food
if they know it's organic. I ask yhem if they like to eat pesticides and
they always say "no". These same people have no idea that non-organic foods
most likely do contain chemicals. I've even had them tell me that the
organic foods taste weird.

This and the Marinara sauce are my favorite organic foods. Expensive, but by
far the best red sauce I've ever had. They do make low sodium.

https://www.amys.com/our-foods/organ...il-pasta-sauce

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 18:26:24 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/1/2020 10:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>>> little or no salt.Â* The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>>> products from different companies.Â* When I was stocking up on beans
>>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>>> salt content.
>>>
>>> Interesting!Â* Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>>> guess not!
>>>
>>
>> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
>> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
>> charge a lot more for them.
>
>I believe that's exactly the assumption and any can or jar of something
>that says "organic" invariably costs a lot more.

RFC is too old for organic. Old people want all apples to be perfect
and shiny, regardless of how they came to be that way Enjoy!

Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 18:26:24 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/1/2020 10:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for the
>>>>> nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
>>>>> little or no salt.Â* The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
>>>>> products from different companies.Â* When I was stocking up on beans
>>>>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the highest
>>>>> salt content.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting!Â* Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
>>>> guess not!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am always
>>> suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things so they can
>>> charge a lot more for them.
>>
>> I believe that's exactly the assumption and any can or jar of something
>> that says "organic" invariably costs a lot more.
>
> RFC is too old for organic. Old people want all apples to be perfect
> and shiny, regardless of how they came to be that way Enjoy!
>

What's a brilliant young butt sniffer like you doing here?

On 12/1/2020 7:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> I believe that's exactly the assumption and any can or jar of something
>> that says "organic" invariably costs a lot more.
>
> RFC is too old for organic. Old people want all apples to be perfect
> and shiny, regardless of how they came to be that way Enjoy!
>

People are getting smarter though
https://time.com/3761942/why-people-...ith-ugly-food/

though not everyone thinks it is a good thing.

https://inhabitat.com/the-ugly-truth...food-movement/
How are small farmers affected?
The main problem with the imperfect food movement, at least as it
relates to small farms, is that the market has become too large for
these farmers to compete. Imperfect Produce is doing its best to help
small farms by sourcing produce from farms across the Midwest €” the
company currently works with 25 small farms throughout the area €” but
the demand is higher than what these farmers can meet.

To help fill the gaps, Imperfect Produce has turned to larger farms,
which supply all of the demand and do so at a cheaper price. In fact,
the majority of the produce the company sells actually comes from Mexico
and California, especially when winter hits the Midwest. For all of the
farmers who are not associated with the company, competing with them at
that scale is nearly impossible.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:50:39 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/29/2020 1:42 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > Canned meats are a thing in Samoa but mostly, they have a thing
> > > > for canned corned beef and canned albacore - they call it
> > > > "wahoo."
> > >
> > > I don't like canned albacore for tuna sandwiches but it's very
> > > good to make fish cakes (aka faux crab cakes). Just youse your
> > > favorite crabcake recipe.
> > You know, I like to 'play with my food' and I was wondering if
> > surime (Fake lobster or crab) might be interesting to try for that.
>
> I've had fried cakes, dips, and poke, made with fake crab. I don't
> care for fake crab by itself but it can be made to be ono.

Agreed, can be very ono!

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 6:08:43 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >>> On 2020-11-30 6:56 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >>> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> >>> >> I have had canned chili. I bought it once and I learned from my
> >>> >> experience. Besides, I am on a low sodium diet these days so
> >>> prepared >> foods are out, especially canned.
> >>> >
> >>> > Not all canned foods are out, just learn t read the labels and
> >>> > selct the versions with acceptable sodium. Generall speaking,
> the >>> > more 'name brand' it is, the less acceptable sodium wise per
> >>> > serving. Hunts, Heinz, Contadina tomato products for example are
> >>> > horrible.
> >>> >
> >>> The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for
> >>> the nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products
> with >>> little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the
> same >>> products from different companies. When I was stocking up on
> beans >>> last week I found that those being billed as organic had the
> >>> highest salt content.
> > >
> > > We only use canned beans when I don't have time or motivation to
> > > cook dried beans in the pressure cooker, like when I get home
> > > from work wiped out. I swear, if we had a Canadian style, single
> > > payer health care system, my sixty year-old ass wouldn't continue
> > > to work full time for the employer subsidized health insurance.
> > >
> > > Dave, do you monitor your BP several times a day? Persons who
> > > have high BP vary widely as to the effect that dietary sodium has
> > > on their BP. It's not one-size-fits-all.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> >
> > I have some canned beans but only a few types and more the frills
> > like black ones. I think I have 3 cans of them now? 1 is a black
> > bean and 2 are refried pintos. Agree with you that it's not a
> > one-size-fits-all deal on the sodium. Doctors will always blame
> > salt intake as it frees them of litigation.
>
> I tend to have low sodium so I have to eat more salt. I don't have to
> pay attention to sodium, counts.

I have to smile here. My Doc told me to up my own salt a bit due to
low blood sodium while still cooking low sodium for my salt reactive
husband.


>
> That being said... I made a meal the other day that was very hard for
> me to eat! These are things my daughter sometimes eat, but I had
> never tried them. They were purchased at the start of the pandemic.
> The foods I normally bought were not available.

I think many of us did that. We ended up getting ham a bunch of times
when looking for some other meat.

>
> I can't remember the brand now but it was some kind of frozen, batter
> dipped chicken tenders or strips. They were slightly expired so I air
> fried the whole pkg. Plenty of batter. Not much meat.
>
> The other was a pouch of Idahoan instant mashed potatoes and cheese.
> Just add water.

I actually like those Idahoan Mashed packets.


> I served these with canned peas. I happily ate the peas, but the
> chicken and potatoes were such salt bombs. Blech! Thankfully, Justin
> ate the rest of the chicken. I finished off the potatoes the
> following day.

Smile, works for me!


> I think Angela may be getting some potato packets for Christmas!

Hehe my daughter doesn't have a personal kitchen (USS Nimitz) but once
she does, I have some stuff to send her!


> I think younger people can tolerate the taste of super salty stuff
> because they've gotten used to it. So many of them don't cook from
> scratch. Angela can cook some things from scratch, but she takes
> after my mother that way. I remember when she wouldn't touch frozen
> food. Now, if it comes frozen, in a packet or jar, etc., she's all
> for it! With some exceptions of course!

Ah, same here but they change. Give it time.

On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 21:39:47 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> I tend to have low sodium so I have to eat more salt. I don't have to
>> pay attention to sodium, counts.
>
>I have to smile here. My Doc told me to up my own salt a bit due to
>low blood sodium while still cooking low sodium for my salt reactive
>husband.

You could make pizzas with anchovies on one side only.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...

<snip>

>> The other was a pouch of Idahoan instant mashed potatoes and cheese.
>> Just add water.
>
> I actually like those Idahoan Mashed packets.

I like the plain ones. These were just super salty.
>
>
>> I served these with canned peas. I happily ate the peas, but the
>> chicken and potatoes were such salt bombs. Blech! Thankfully, Justin
>> ate the rest of the chicken. I finished off the potatoes the
>> following day.
>
> Smile, works for me!
>
>
>> I think Angela may be getting some potato packets for Christmas!
>
> Hehe my daughter doesn't have a personal kitchen (USS Nimitz) but once
> she does, I have some stuff to send her!
>
>
>> I think younger people can tolerate the taste of super salty stuff
>> because they've gotten used to it. So many of them don't cook from
>> scratch. Angela can cook some things from scratch, but she takes
>> after my mother that way. I remember when she wouldn't touch frozen
>> food. Now, if it comes frozen, in a packet or jar, etc., she's all
>> for it! With some exceptions of course!
>
> Ah, same here but they change. Give it time.
>

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2020-11-30 11:30 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > > The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels
> > > > for the nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu"
> > > > products with little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a
> > > > lot for the same products from different companies. When I was
> > > > stocking up on beans last week I found that those being billed
> > > > as organic had the highest salt content.
> > >
> > > Interesting! Normally I think they try to be more 'healthy' but I
> > > guess not!
> > >
> >
> > I think that is the assumption that a lot of people make. I am
> > always suspicious of them slapping the "organic" label on things
> > so they can charge a lot more for them.
>
> I know people who are terrified of the word "organic" and won't eat
> the food if they know it's organic. I ask yhem if they like to eat
> pesticides and they always say "no". These same people have no idea
> that non-organic foods most likely do contain chemicals. I've even
> had them tell me that the organic foods taste weird.
>
> This and the Marinara sauce are my favorite organic foods. Expensive,
> but by far the best red sauce I've ever had. They do make low sodium.
>
> https://www.amys.com/our-foods/organ...il-pasta-sauce

The Light Sodium isn't bad.

https://www.amys.com/our-foods/organ...ight-in-sodium

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> I rarely use any salt when cooking foods. The salt is on the table.
> Help yourself

My mom always said that, but that doesn't work for me. Not all things I cook
have salt in them but most do. If you cook without salt, then add it at the
table, all you taste is the salt. Yuck.

If I find out that people don't cook with salt, I'll turn down diner
invitations.

===

I need to remember not to invite you)

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>> > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
>> > another My
>> > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
>> > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
>> > delicious!
>> > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up the
>> > chips
>> > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a Frito
>> > Pie is
>> > duck soup to make.
>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
>> I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
>> great, and I love the presentation.
>
> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
>
> =====
>
> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?

Fritos. They're an extruded corn chip. Smaller and thicker than a tortilla
chip. They're my favorite chip.

I read somewhere that the original bags were foil and today's bags are
plastic. I believe this to be true. But I also read that you can't make them
in the bag now as it will melt. Not sure about that. I do mine in a bowl.

===

Thank you

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:24:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:01:43 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> > On 2020 Nov 29, , dsi1 wrote
>> > (in >):
>> > > My guess is that it's a safe bet that you won't be meeting up with
>> > > another My
>> > > tainted chili dog in your lifetime. That should be good news.
>> > > I'm having an old Hawaiian style lunch today: Frito Pie. It's
>> > > delicious!
>> > > Unfortunately, I made the classic rookie mistake of not breaking up
>> > > the
>> > > chips
>> > > before adding the canned chili. Don't let anyone tell you that a
>> > > Frito
>> > > Pie is
>> > > duck soup to make.
>> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5iXUXwW5AS2AUGA9
>> > I´ve heard of Frito Pie. I think it´s a regional thing. Yours looks
>> > great, and I love the presentation.
>>
>> My Frito pie is just the usual presentation. Nothing special about it. I
>> think the real deal uses a chili sauce instead of chili. I used canned
>> chili. Just make sure you cut the bag on the side!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEUGC69Yss
>> =====
>>
>> I keep seeing those 'bags'. What are the contents?
> They contain Fritos Corn Chips which are made with corn and are a fried
> salty snack. To me, it has a slightly burnt corn taste. I don't think you
> can find them in the UK. My guess is that the US doesn't have any to
> spare.
>
> https://www.bonappetit.com/story/we-love-fritos
>
> ===
>
> Ahh ok, thank you It has veggies mixed in and beans, things like
> that, yes?
>
> Oh yes, and that sauce? Why does it need that bag?

It's just chili served over Fritos. Does not need the bag but it is served
that way so you can walk around, eating it from the bag and not have dirty
dishes. Just throw the bag away when done.

====

I see! Save on washing dishes Now,please explain 'chili'?

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 5:32:11 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 6:08:43 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > On 2020-11-30 6:56 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >> > > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> I have had canned chili. I bought it once and I learned from my
> >> > >> experience. Besides, I am on a low sodium diet these days so
> >> > prepared >> foods are out, especially canned.
> >> > >
> >> > > Not all canned foods are out, just learn t read the labels and
> >> > > selct the versions with acceptable sodium. Generall speaking, the
> >> > > more 'name brand' it is, the less acceptable sodium wise per
> >> > > serving. Hunts, Heinz, Contadina tomato products for example are
> >> > > horrible.
> >> > >
> >> > The dietitian stressed the importance of checking the labels for
> >> > the nutrients list. There are a number of "blue menu" products with
> >> > little or no salt. The amount of salt varies a lot for the same
> >> > products from different companies. When I was stocking up on beans
> >> > last week I found that those being billed as organic had the
> >> > highest salt content.
> >>
> >> We only use canned beans when I don't have time or motivation to cook
> >> dried beans in the pressure cooker, like when I get home from work
> >> wiped out. I swear, if we had a Canadian style, single payer health
> >> care system, my sixty year-old ass wouldn't continue to work full
> >> time for the employer subsidized health insurance.
> >>
> >> Dave, do you monitor your BP several times a day? Persons who have
> >> high BP vary widely as to the effect that dietary sodium has on their
> >> BP. It's not one-size-fits-all.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> > I have some canned beans but only a few types and more the frills like
> > black ones. I think I have 3 cans of them now? 1 is a black bean and
> > 2 are refried pintos. Agree with you that it's not a one-size-fits-all
> > deal on the sodium. Doctors will always blame salt intake as it frees
> > them of litigation.
>
> I tend to have low sodium so I have to eat more salt. I don't have to pay
> attention to sodium, counts.
>
> That being said... I made a meal the other day that was very hard for me to
> eat! These are things my daughter sometimes eat, but I had never tried them.
> They were purchased at the start of the pandemic. The foods I normally
> bought were not available.
>
> I can't remember the brand now but it was some kind of frozen, batter dipped
> chicken tenders or strips. They were slightly expired so I air fried the
> whole pkg. Plenty of batter. Not much meat.
>
> The other was a pouch of Idahoan instant mashed potatoes and cheese. Just
> add water.
>
> I served these with canned peas. I happily ate the peas, but the chicken and
> potatoes were such salt bombs. Blech! Thankfully, Justin ate the rest of the
> chicken. I finished off the potatoes the following day.

Instant mashed potatoes with canned peas sounds like prison food in a
prison with a sadistic warden.
>
> I think Angela may be getting some potato packets for Christmas!

I guess that out of a concern for climate change, that's what Santa is leaving
naughty folks instead of coal.
>
--Bryan

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > ...
>
> <snip>
>
> > > The other was a pouch of Idahoan instant mashed potatoes and
> > > cheese. Just add water.
> >
> > I actually like those Idahoan Mashed packets.
>
> I like the plain ones. These were just super salty.

They have a lot of flavors and I've only tried a few. The few I have
tried, would have been the lower sodium ones (so as to not forget and
blow Don's needs if we grabbed the wrong one).

I'll take it as a given they have some that are salty since it's
normally the plain butter ones we got.

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 7:15:48 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
> > "cshenk" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > The other was a pouch of Idahoan instant mashed potatoes and
> > > > cheese. Just add water.
> > >
> > > I actually like those Idahoan Mashed packets.
> >
> > I like the plain ones. These were just super salty.
> They have a lot of flavors and I've only tried a few. The few I have
> tried, would have been the lower sodium ones (so as to not forget and
> blow Don's needs if we grabbed the wrong one).
>
> I'll take it as a given they have some that are salty since it's
> normally the plain butter ones we got.


How often do you "blow" Don, cshenkie?