Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip.. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
>
> --Bryan
I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> >
> > --Bryan
> I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.

This would be a good time to tour a sewage treatment plant.

--Bryan

On 12/9/2020 8:04 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
>
> --Bryan
>


Try to remember to bathe.

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:04:40 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.

You could switch to a healthy diet!

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 11:12:57 AM UTC-6, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 12/9/2020 8:04 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> Try to remember to bathe.

I don't wait to shower until I notice myself being smelly.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> >
> > --Bryan
> I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.

I wonder what the tacos, beans, avocado and beer is going to taste like. Time to find out.

--Bryan

On 2020-12-09 5:00 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>> I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.
>
> I wonder what the tacos, beans, avocado and beer is going to taste like. Time to find out.
>
>

Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
smell is enough to make most normal people puke.

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 12:01:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.
> I wonder what the tacos, beans, avocado and beer is going to taste like. Time to find out.
>
> --Bryan
My guess is that a jug of T-bird will taste as good as a bottle of 1807 Chateau LaFontane DuRiche. Live it up!

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 4:04:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-09 5:00 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >>> Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> >>>
> >>> --Bryan
> >> I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.
> >
> > I wonder what the tacos, beans, avocado and beer is going to taste like.. Time to find out.
> >
> >
> Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
> smell is enough to make most normal people puke.

I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.

--Bryan

On Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:39:26 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:


> I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.

Why not the TV cartoon classic Limburger Cheese? Actually, I love that
stuff!

On 2020-12-09 5:39 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 4:04:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:

>>>
>> Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
>> smell is enough to make most normal people puke.
>
> I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.
>
>

I would not want to waste the flavour of asparagus. I love that stuff.

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-09 5:39 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 4:04:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
>>> smell is enough to make most normal people puke.
>>
>> I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.
>>
>>
>
>I would not want to waste the flavour of asparagus. I love that stuff.

1. Asparagus
2. Broadbean (fava)
3. Okra

IMO

Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-12-09 5:39 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 4:04:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
>>>> smell is enough to make most normal people puke.
>>>
>>> I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I would not want to waste the flavour of asparagus. I love that stuff.
>
> 1. Asparagus
> 2. Broadbean (fava)
> 3. Okra
>
> IMO
>

They taint the butt fumes?

Hank Rogers wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:30:46 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2020-12-09 5:39 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 4:04:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
> >>>> smell is enough to make most normal people puke.
> >>>
> >>> I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I would not want to waste the flavour of asparagus. I love that stuff.
> >
> > 1. Asparagus
> > 2. Broadbean (fava)
> > 3. Okra
> >
> > IMO
> >
> They taint the butt fumes?


Q: What did the Maxi Pad say to the fart?
A: You are the wind beneath my wings!

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> >
> > --Bryan
> I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.


Doctor's Visit

Doctor: "What seems to be the problem today?"
Patient: "Doc, I've got the farts. I mean I fart all the time,"
The Doctor nods, "Hmm."
Patient: "My farts do not stink and you can't hear them. It's just that I fart all the time. Look, we've been talking here for about 10 minutes and I've farted five times."
"Hmm," says the Doctor, as he picks up his pad and writes out a prescription.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-12-09 5:39 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 4:04:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >>>
> >> Maybe now is the time to try that Swedish canned fermented fish. The
> >> smell is enough to make most normal people puke.
> >
> > I was thinking more along the lines of a bite or two of asparagus.
> >
> >
> I would not want to waste the flavour of asparagus. I love that stuff.

Brothel

Man goes to a brothel. The Madam is out of women but, since the guy is Polish she thinks she can get away with a blow up doll and he will never know the difference. Being a bit nervous because she has never tried this one before, The Madam waits outside the door. The Polack comes out in five minutes.. "How was it?", says the Madam. "I don't know," says the Pollack, "I bit her on the tit and she farted and flew out the window!"

On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Q: What did the Maxi Pad say to the fart?
> A: You are the wind beneath my wings!

You ain´t Bruce. He has no sense of humor. Try to make your next joke
self-righteous and condescending.

On Wed, 09 Dec 2020 20:51:37 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Q: What did the Maxi Pad say to the fart?
>> A: You are the wind beneath my wings!
>
>You ain´t Bruce. He has no sense of humor. Try to make your next joke
>self-righteous and condescending.

More self-righteous and condescending than your right-wing shock jock
drivel? Not gonna be easy, Leo!

On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> More self-righteous and condescending than your right-wing shock jock
> drivel? Not gonna be easy, Leo!

I just love playground comebacks! "I´m rubber, you´re glue. Everything
you say bounces off me and sticks to you"! Lotta deep thought there.
From another thread where I didn´t respond, explain communism. A State
Department official explained it once in a seminar I attended as a fantastic
idea that works poorly with people, but ants are great at it.
Thoughts?

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 12:58:04 AM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
> > More self-righteous and condescending than your right-wing shock jock
> > drivel? Not gonna be easy, Leo!
> I just love playground comebacks! "I´m rubber, you´re glue. Everything
> you say bounces off me and sticks to you"! Lotta deep thought there.
> From another thread where I didn´t respond, explain communism. A State
> Department official explained it once in a seminar I attended as a fantastic
> idea that works poorly with people, but ants are great at it.
> Thoughts?


+100

--
Best
Greg 😎

On Wed, 09 Dec 2020 22:57:54 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> More self-righteous and condescending than your right-wing shock jock
>> drivel? Not gonna be easy, Leo!
>
>I just love playground comebacks! "I´m rubber, you´re glue. Everything
>you say bounces off me and sticks to you"! Lotta deep thought there.
>From another thread where I didn´t respond, explain communism. A State
>Department official explained it once in a seminar I attended as a fantastic
>idea that works poorly with people, but ants are great at it.
>Thoughts?

I agree, it never works. But your Democrats aren't communists. Your
"left wing" media aren't communist. European countries aren't
communist. Communism means, for instance, that there's no private
ownership of any means of production. Do you see anybody advocate that
anywhere?

On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> I agree, it never works. But your Democrats aren't communists. Your
> "left wing" media aren't communist. European countries aren't
> communist. Communism means, for instance, that there's no private
> ownership of any means of production. Do you see anybody advocate that
> anywhere?

Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
government regulation. Now the police are under attack. Remember,
"undermine and destroy existing institutions"?
It´s "deja vu all over again" in only one hundred years. And this time,
it´s us. Festering rats in the other party are looking for revenge against
Trump voters, and instead of being thrown in prison for sedition, are given a
voice in the media. WTF!

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:01:18 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> I agree, it never works. But your Democrats aren't communists. Your
>> "left wing" media aren't communist. European countries aren't
>> communist. Communism means, for instance, that there's no private
>> ownership of any means of production. Do you see anybody advocate that
>> anywhere?
>
>Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
>better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
>government regulation. Now the police are under attack. Remember,
>"undermine and destroy existing institutions"?
>It´s "deja vu all over again" in only one hundred years. And this time,
>it´s us. Festering rats in the other party are looking for revenge against
>Trump voters, and instead of being thrown in prison for sedition, are given a
>voice in the media. WTF!

Is there something in your water? Have you ever been tested for
schizophrenia and, more precisely, paranoia? You sound like you're
bordering on the insane, old chap.

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 3:31:44 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:01:18 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
> >On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> I agree, it never works. But your Democrats aren't communists. Your
> >> "left wing" media aren't communist. European countries aren't
> >> communist. Communism means, for instance, that there's no private
> >> ownership of any means of production. Do you see anybody advocate that
> >> anywhere?
> >
> >Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
> >better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
> >government regulation. Now the police are under attack. Remember,
> >"undermine and destroy existing institutions"?
> >It´s "deja vu all over again" in only one hundred years. And this time,
> >it´s us. Festering rats in the other party are looking for revenge against
> >Trump voters, and instead of being thrown in prison for sedition, are given a
> >voice in the media. WTF!
> Is there something in your water? Have you ever been tested for
> schizophrenia and, more precisely, paranoia? You sound like you're
> bordering on the insane, old chap.

It's the same insanity as 100 years ago in Germany. Leo's mindset isn't unusual.
They thought that Trump was their savior, their Hitler, but then he lost. It must be
the communists.

--Bryan

On 2020 Dec 10, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Is there something in your water? Have you ever been tested for
> schizophrenia and, more precisely, paranoia? You sound like you're
> bordering on the insane, old chap.

Hope so. What part do you deny is happening or has happened?

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:54:16 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 10, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Is there something in your water? Have you ever been tested for
>> schizophrenia and, more precisely, paranoia? You sound like you're
>> bordering on the insane, old chap.
>
>Hope so. What part do you deny is happening or has happened?

What part of what? You snipped all you rambling. I'll put it back:

>Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes.

Behind the scenes people are advocating a ban on private ownership of
means of production? Who? Where? Nonsense.

>The better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
>government regulation.

Manufacturing moving to countries with cheap wages is another issue
entirely.

>Now the police are under attack. Remember, "undermine and destroy existing institutions"?
>It´s "deja vu all over again" in only one hundred years. And this time,
>it´s us.

Who's "us"? Racist police deserve to be under attack. That doesn't
mean we should do away with all police. Heaven forfend!

>Festering rats in the other party are looking for revenge against
>Trump voters, and instead of being thrown in prison for sedition, are given a
>voice in the media. WTF!

Democrats don't deserve a voice in the media and should be put in
prison? They're festering rats? Are you on medication that you're not
taking?
>

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:52:49 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 3:31:44 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:01:18 -0800, Leo >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
>> >better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
>> >government regulation. Now the police are under attack. Remember,
>> >"undermine and destroy existing institutions"?
>> >It´s "deja vu all over again" in only one hundred years. And this time,
>> >it´s us. Festering rats in the other party are looking for revenge against
>> >Trump voters, and instead of being thrown in prison for sedition, are given a
>> >voice in the media. WTF!
>> Is there something in your water? Have you ever been tested for
>> schizophrenia and, more precisely, paranoia? You sound like you're
>> bordering on the insane, old chap.
>
>It's the same insanity as 100 years ago in Germany. Leo's mindset isn't unusual.
>They thought that Trump was their savior, their Hitler, but then he lost. It must be
>the communists.
>
Is it mass hysteria? People who think like this don't just lack
education, they have a mental problem. And you have many millions of
them. How come?
>

On 2020 Dec 10, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Behind the scenes people are advocating a ban on private ownership of
> means of production? Who? Where? Nonsense.

[1] What part of over regulating industries out of existence in the U.S.
escapes you. It´s already done.
> Manufacturing moving to countries with cheap wages is another issue
> entirely.

See [1]
> Who's "us"? Racist police deserve to be under attack.

That´s correct. All major city police forces are integrated here. That
happened long ago. Are there aboriginal police within a hundred miles of
where you live? If not, you´re a racist. If so, have you given an aborigine
special consideration today? If not, you´re a racist.
> Democrats don't deserve a voice in the media and should be put in
> prison? They're festering rats? Are you on medication that you're not
> taking?
Only the ones who seek revenge against Trump voters and those who may follow
their lead. The media is, at best, irresponsible to give them any voice at
all. Fevered fools appear in many guises. You appear to be one of them. Go to
the sink and get some cold water. Pour it on your head. Feel better?
O.K., I´m out. I have to stop discussing politics here, and I really will
try starting now. I´ll still call "you" names for other reasons, and
you give me a reason with every post.

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:01:29 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
> > I agree, it never works. But your Democrats aren't communists. Your
> > "left wing" media aren't communist. European countries aren't
> > communist. Communism means, for instance, that there's no private
> > ownership of any means of production. Do you see anybody advocate that
> > anywhere?
> Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
> better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
> government regulation.

No, the means of production has been driven overseas because workers there
are willing to work for peanuts. The average auto worker in China makes about
$35,000 per year. Where are you going to find someone in the U.S. who will do
that?

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 5:00:12 AM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 10, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
> > Behind the scenes people are advocating a ban on private ownership of
> > means of production? Who? Where? Nonsense.
> [1] What part of over regulating industries out of existence in the U.S.
> escapes you. It´s already done.
> > Manufacturing moving to countries with cheap wages is another issue
> > entirely.
> See [1]
> > Who's "us"? Racist police deserve to be under attack.
> That´s correct. All major city police forces are integrated here. That
> happened long ago. Are there aboriginal police within a hundred miles of
> where you live? If not, you´re a racist. If so, have you given an aborigine
> special consideration today? If not, you´re a racist.
> > Democrats don't deserve a voice in the media and should be put in
> > prison? They're festering rats? Are you on medication that you're not
> > taking?
> Only the ones who seek revenge against Trump voters and those who may follow
> their lead. The media is, at best, irresponsible to give them any voice at
> all. Fevered fools appear in many guises. You appear to be one of them. Go to
> the sink and get some cold water. Pour it on your head. Feel better?
> O.K., I´m out. I have to stop discussing politics here, and I really will
> try starting now. I´ll still call "you" names for other reasons, and
> you give me a reason with every post.

Considering that Trump has committed a string of financial crimes, do you
think it is wrong for millions of Americans to want to "LOCK HIM UP!"?

--Bryan

On 2020-12-10 4:01 a.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
>
>> I agree, it never works. But your Democrats aren't communists. Your
>> "left wing" media aren't communist. European countries aren't
>> communist. Communism means, for instance, that there's no private
>> ownership of any means of production. Do you see anybody advocate that
>> anywhere?
>
> Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes.

So ..... the Democrats have a secret communist agenda, but they never
discuss it publicly??



>The
> better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
> government regulation. Now the police are under attack. Remember,
> "undermine and destroy existing institutions"?

Heaven forbid we have regulations to protect the environment, workers
and to protect the economy from corrupt business practices? The right
played a major role in shipping industry overseas when they pushed for
trade deals that allowed North American businesses to move their plants
overseas where they were able to abuse the environment and hire people
to work for peanuts and then have the goods shipped back here without
tariffs so they could sold for less and yield a much larger profit.





> It´s "deja vu all over again" in only one hundred years. And this time,
> it´s us. Festering rats in the other party are looking for revenge against
> Trump voters, and instead of being thrown in prison for sedition, are given a
> voice in the media. WTF!



Trumps detractors are guilty of sedition? What about all the Trumpsters
who are protesting the election results and threatening violence? There
was an election. The results are in. Trump lost. He has gone to the
courts and his actions have been repeatedly dismissed because there has
been no substance to any of the allegations.

On 2020-12-10 4:52 a.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:

> It's the same insanity as 100 years ago in Germany. Leo's mindset isn't unusual.
> They thought that Trump was their savior, their Hitler, but then he lost. It must be
> the communists.


Heaven forbid the reason the majority of American voters reject Trump is
that he is a lying asshole. Holy crap. The guy opens his mouth and
lies come spewing out and his followers believe him. It is even sadder
that so many of them know that he is lying but are so opposed to
normalcy that they support him anyway.

On 2020-12-10 6:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:01:29 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
?
>> Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
>> better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
>> government regulation.
>
> No, the means of production has been driven overseas because workers there
> are willing to work for peanuts. The average auto worker in China makes about
> $35,000 per year. Where are you going to find someone in the U.S. who will do
> that?
>

$35,000 per year ???? More like $12,000.

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 10:22:05 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-10 6:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:01:29 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> ?
> >> Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the scenes. The
> >> better part of the means of production has already been driven overseas by
> >> government regulation.
> >
> > No, the means of production has been driven overseas because workers there
> > are willing to work for peanuts. The average auto worker in China makes about
> > $35,000 per year. Where are you going to find someone in the U.S. who will do
> > that?
> >
> $35,000 per year ???? More like $12,000.

Arrgh. I was looking at the average for all automotive jobs, including sales.

I stand corrected.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/10/2020 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-10 6:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:01:29 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> ?
>>> Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the
>>> scenes. The
>>> better part of the means of production has already been driven
>>> overseas by
>>> government regulation.
>>
>> No, the means of production has been driven overseas because workers
>> there
>> are willing to work for peanuts.Â* The average auto worker in China
>> makes about
>> $35,000 per year.Â* Where are you going to find someone in the U.S. who
>> will do
>> that?
>>
>
> $35,000 per year ???? More like $12,000.


We want jobs in America, good paying jobs. Oh, we also want low, low
prices too.

Look around your house. Have lots of nice stuff? Would you have that
if it was priced on US wages with good benefits?

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 12:01:04 PM UTC-10,
wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10,
> > wrote:
> > > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a
> > > trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big
> > > whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting
> > > ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting
> > experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.
> I wonder what the tacos, beans, avocado and beer is going to taste like.
> Time to find out.
>
> --Bryan
My guess is that a jug of T-bird will taste as good as a bottle of 1807
Chateau LaFontane DuRiche. Live it up!

====

T-bird?

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 12/10/2020 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-12-10 6:29 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:01:29 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> > ?
> >>> Nobody advocates it openly. It has already been done behind the
> >>> scenes. The
> >>> better part of the means of production has already been driven
> >>> overseas by
> >>> government regulation.
> >>
> >> No, the means of production has been driven overseas because workers
> >> there
> >> are willing to work for peanuts. The average auto worker in China
> >> makes about
> >> $35,000 per year. Where are you going to find someone in the U.S. who
> >> will do
> >> that?
> >>
> >
> > $35,000 per year ???? More like $12,000.
> We want jobs in America, good paying jobs. Oh, we also want low, low
> prices too.
>
> Look around your house. Have lots of nice stuff? Would you have that
> if it was priced on US wages with good benefits?

No, cheaper consumer goods are now produced in Asia and other places, they have much lower production costs for these items than we do...apparel, electronics, and many other things are *vastly* cheaper for US consumers, and that is a good thing. Even the poorest in the US can afford big - screen TV's, microwaves, computers, air conditioners, decent clothing, cellphones, better food, appliances, OTC medications...this adds to an increase in our overall standard of living. What was luxury is now for everyone...the price of a nice big - screen TV, adjusted for inflation is __5%__ of what it was in 1990...air conditioning is __95%__ cheaper than in 1955, in inflation - adjusted dollars...

And US production workers are *far* more efficient than in 1950, 1970 or even 1990...many fewer hands are needed to produce higher - value items...and those production workers are still well - paid, according to their skills level...

We still have a huge manufacturing base, but we make many "high added - value" products. Quick wiki:

"The largest manufacturing industries in the United States by revenue include petroleum, steel, automobiles, aerospace, telecommunications, chemicals, electronics, food processing, consumer goods, lumber, and mining. A large portion of U.S. industrial output, the United States leads the world in airplane manufacturing. American companies such as Boeing, Cessna, Lockheed Martin, and General Dynamics produce a vast majority of the world's civilian and military aircraft in factories stretching across the United States..."

</>

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 12:01:04 PM UTC-10,
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:04:47 AM UTC-10,
> > > wrote:
> > > > Man, we've all heard about the loss of sense of smell, but this is a
> > > > trip. I can't smell coffee, lavender, chocolate, and I even took a big
> > > > whiff of the jug of Cholula. Nothing. I may use this in interesting
> > > > ways, eating things that I would ordinarily not eat.
> > > >
> > > > --Bryan
> > > I periodically lose my sense of smell. Indeed, it is an interesting
> > > experience. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.
> > I wonder what the tacos, beans, avocado and beer is going to taste like.
> > Time to find out.
> >
> > --Bryan
> My guess is that a jug of T-bird will taste as good as a bottle of 1807
> Chateau LaFontane DuRiche. Live it up!
>
> ====
>
> T-bird?

Thunderbird, a cheap, fortified wine.

<http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html>

Although it looks like Gallo has recently rehabilitated the brand.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 03:00:03 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 10, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Behind the scenes people are advocating a ban on private ownership of
>> means of production? Who? Where? Nonsense.
>
>[1] What part of over regulating industries out of existence in the U.S.
>escapes you. It´s already done.
>> Manufacturing moving to countries with cheap wages is another issue
>> entirely.
>
>See [1]
>> Who's "us"? Racist police deserve to be under attack.
>
>That´s correct. All major city police forces are integrated here. That
>happened long ago. Are there aboriginal police within a hundred miles of
>where you live? If not, you´re a racist. If so, have you given an aborigine
>special consideration today? If not, you´re a racist.
>> Democrats don't deserve a voice in the media and should be put in
>> prison? They're festering rats? Are you on medication that you're not
>> taking?
>Only the ones who seek revenge against Trump voters and those who may follow
>their lead. The media is, at best, irresponsible to give them any voice at
>all. Fevered fools appear in many guises. You appear to be one of them. Go to
>the sink and get some cold water. Pour it on your head. Feel better?
>O.K., I´m out. I have to stop discussing politics here, and I really will
>try starting now. I´ll still call "you" names for other reasons, and
>you give me a reason with every post.

It's fascinating to see how crazy your ideas are. I hope you don't
represent the 70 million who voted for Trump. If that were the case,
your country would be in deep shit.