Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:34:37 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.

Peasant food: Fricks's Ham, cabbage, and potatoes.

-sw

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.

Leftovers for me.

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:20:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>
> Leftovers for me.

Whatabout him? Didn't you make him anything?

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:20:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>>
>> Leftovers for me.
>
> Whatabout him? Didn't you make him anything?

He had leftovers too.

On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie. The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7

On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 7:34:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.

Eggs scrambled in bacon grease. Toast. Glass of milk.

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie.
The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7

====

I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 01:32:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:20:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>>>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>>>
>>> Leftovers for me.
>>
>> Whatabout him? Didn't you make him anything?
>
>He had leftovers too.

Hmm, do you think of yourself as leftovers? hehe
Would have made more sense if you said what leftovers.
Often leftovers are best.

On 2020-12-21 4:55 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie. The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.

I think we are all feeling a little depressed these days. Christmas can
be a problem at the best of times. There is a lot of stress and a lot of
people are lonely. This year is worse than most. We just went into the
red zone and then after midnight on the 24th we go into a 28 day lock down.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
>feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
>food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
>good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie.
>The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
>
>====
>
> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((

I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 1:44:56 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> > salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
> feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
> food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
> good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie.
> The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
> ====
>
> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:03:20 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-21 4:55 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> >> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> > I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie. The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
> I think we are all feeling a little depressed these days. Christmas can
> be a problem at the best of times. There is a lot of stress and a lot of
> people are lonely. This year is worse than most. We just went into the
> red zone and then after midnight on the 24th we go into a 28 day lock down.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 1:44:56 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>> > salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>> I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
>> feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
>> food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
>> good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie.
>> The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
>> ====
>>
>> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
>Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.

What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
not prevailing?

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 01:32:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:20:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>>>>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>>>>
>>>> Leftovers for me.
>>>
>>> Whatabout him? Didn't you make him anything?
>>
>> He had leftovers too.
>
> Hmm, do you think of yourself as leftovers? hehe
> Would have made more sense if you said what leftovers.
> Often leftovers are best.
>

Careful Popeye, she might squirt in yoose eyes!

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 1:44:56 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> >> > salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> >> I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
> >> feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
> >> food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
> >> good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato pie.
> >> The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
> >>
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
> >>
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
> >> ====
> >>
> >> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.
> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
> not prevailing?
That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in a fearful, pessimistic, manner.
Today I went to an okazuya and bought some lunch. Back in the old days, workers would go to an okazuya to buy some food items to be eaten during lunch.. Back then it would cost only a few bucks. lunchtime would be a happy event because you'd eat a lunch custom tailored for you.
Today I bought some namasu, kombu maki, chicken katsu, shrimp tempura, a plain musubi, eggplant tempura, and a corn beef hash. The corn beef hash is canned corned beef with mashed potatoes, that is shaped into patties, coated with panko and fried. I also got some spicy sushi rolls. I took it back home for the wife and we ate it together. It was certainly a treat.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/viyNNGKhKUgeQPoT7

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 01:26:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.
>> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
>> not prevailing?

>That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in a fearful, pessimistic, manner.

You said the British people will prevail, but you don't know what that
means. I also hope they'll prevail, but I also don't know what that
means.

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
>feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
>food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
>good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
>pie.
>The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
>
>====
>
> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((

I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.

=====

Yes! I am very grateful that we live in a very tiny village. No one here
has a problem and atm we are on tier one! I hear that soon everywhere will
be in tier 4. Not that it means my village will be worse. I think they are
just trying to contain everything, everywhere.

We (personally and everyone in our village) have been lucky to be so safe.
I hear that there is a new strain of the virus! We do chat to neighbours but
always from a distance.

I hope everyone where you live in safe.

Keep well!!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 1:44:56 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> > salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
> feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
> food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's
> a
> good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
> pie.
> The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
> ====
>
> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the
problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people
make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.

===

Hopefully! Thank you

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 1:44:56 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and
> >> > a
> >> > salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> >> I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I
> >> don't
> >> feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ.
> >> The
> >> food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed.
> >> It's a
> >> good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
> >> pie.
> >> The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
> >>
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
> >>
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
> >> ====
> >>
> >> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the
> >problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some
> >people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they
> >always do.
> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
> not prevailing?
That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in a
fearful, pessimistic, manner.
Today I went to an okazuya and bought some lunch. Back in the old days,
workers would go to an okazuya to buy some food items to be eaten during
lunch. Back then it would cost only a few bucks. lunchtime would be a happy
event because you'd eat a lunch custom tailored for you.
Today I bought some namasu, kombu maki, chicken katsu, shrimp tempura, a
plain musubi, eggplant tempura, and a corn beef hash. The corn beef hash is
canned corned beef with mashed potatoes, that is shaped into patties, coated
with panko and fried. I also got some spicy sushi rolls. I took it back home
for the wife and we ate it together. It was certainly a treat.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/viyNNGKhKUgeQPoT7

====

I all looks jolly good)))

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 01:26:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of
>> >the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some
>> >people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they
>> >always do.
>> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
>> not prevailing?

>That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in
>a fearful, pessimistic, manner.

You said the British people will prevail, but you don't know what that
means. I also hope they'll prevail, but I also don't know what that
means.

===

We will get through the bad times and come out to good times)) That
sounds good to me)

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:05:49 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 01:26:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.
> >> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
> >> not prevailing?
>
> >That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in a fearful, pessimistic, manner.
> You said the British people will prevail, but you don't know what that
> means. I also hope they'll prevail, but I also don't know what that
> means.
Indeed I did say that. I always know exactly what I mean. That doesn't mean I'm going to give my time to people that demand and expect an explanation to everything I post. The reality is that you don't really care about the UK or what I think about the spirit of the Brits.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:04:45 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 01:26:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of
>>> >the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some
>>> >people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they
>>> >always do.
>>> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
>>> not prevailing?
>
>>That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in
>>a fearful, pessimistic, manner.
>
>You said the British people will prevail, but you don't know what that
>means. I also hope they'll prevail, but I also don't know what that
>means.
>
>===
>
> We will get through the bad times and come out to good times)) That
>sounds good to me)

With Johnson the Trump double and all the Brexit mess times are going
to be bad - hope you're happy with your Brexit and don't care how it
has affected many other working people.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:01:08 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Master Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >"dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> >> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> >I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
> >feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
> >food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
> >good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
> >pie.
> >The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
> >
> >====
> >
> > I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
>
> I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.
> =====
>
> Yes! I am very grateful that we live in a very tiny village. No one here
> has a problem and atm we are on tier one! I hear that soon everywhere will
> be in tier 4. Not that it means my village will be worse. I think they are
> just trying to contain everything, everywhere.
>
> We (personally and everyone in our village) have been lucky to be so safe..
> I hear that there is a new strain of the virus! We do chat to neighbours but
> always from a distance.
>
> I hope everyone where you live in safe.
>
> Keep well!!
I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand shake but I opted for the elbow bump. These days, fist bumps just don't cut it. My wife is going to get the vaccine this morning but the guy decided to wait to see what develops. He's a big, husky, guy that's in a high risk group of dying of this disease or having a very bumpy ride if he gets it. My understanding is that a lot of the staff at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4 years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and the nature of reality. There's no going back now.

On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:

> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
> shake but I opted for the elbow bump. These days, fist bumps just
> don't cut it. My wife is going to get the vaccine this morning but
> the guy decided to wait to see what develops. He's a big, husky, guy
> that's in a high risk group of dying of this disease or having a very
> bumpy ride if he gets it. My understanding is that a lot of the staff
> at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds
> like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4
> years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and
> the nature of reality. There's no going back now.
>

If I ran the world any health care worker who refused the vaccine would
be fired, or else they would have to come up with a valid doctor's note
explaining why they can't take it. These people are dealing with sick
and vulnerable people, the most likely to hit badly by this virus. I
don't know how things are down there, but the hardest hit places are the
long term care homes for the aged, and the mortality rate is extre,mely
high. They account for about 80% of Covid19 deaths.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:19:30 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump. These days, fist bumps just
>> don't cut it. My wife is going to get the vaccine this morning but
>> the guy decided to wait to see what develops. He's a big, husky, guy
>> that's in a high risk group of dying of this disease or having a very
>> bumpy ride if he gets it. My understanding is that a lot of the staff
>> at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds
>> like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4
>> years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and
>> the nature of reality. There's no going back now.
>>
>
> If I ran the world any health care worker who refused the vaccine would
> be fired, or else they would have to come up with a valid doctor's note
> explaining why they can't take it. These people are dealing with sick
> and vulnerable people, the most likely to hit badly by this virus. I
> don't know how things are down there, but the hardest hit places are the
> long term care homes for the aged, and the mortality rate is extre,mely
> high. They account for about 80% of Covid19 deaths.

This always comes up with the annual flu shot. A significant number of
nurses refuse to get it.

On 2020-12-22 12:23 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:19:30 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
>>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump. These days, fist bumps just
>>> don't cut it. My wife is going to get the vaccine this morning but
>>> the guy decided to wait to see what develops. He's a big, husky, guy
>>> that's in a high risk group of dying of this disease or having a very
>>> bumpy ride if he gets it. My understanding is that a lot of the staff
>>> at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds
>>> like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4
>>> years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and
>>> the nature of reality. There's no going back now.
>>>
>>
>> If I ran the world any health care worker who refused the vaccine would
>> be fired, or else they would have to come up with a valid doctor's note
>> explaining why they can't take it. These people are dealing with sick
>> and vulnerable people, the most likely to hit badly by this virus. I
>> don't know how things are down there, but the hardest hit places are the
>> long term care homes for the aged, and the mortality rate is extre,mely
>> high. They account for about 80% of Covid19 deaths.
>
> This always comes up with the annual flu shot. A significant number of
> nurses refuse to get it.
>

My late SiL was a nurse who refused to get a flu shot for work. She
didn't like the idea of injecting foreign bodies into her body. She had
no problem with smoking cigarettes and sucking all nicotine and tars
into her body and ended up dying of lung cancer.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 7:17:50 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
> > shake but I opted for the elbow bump. These days, fist bumps just
> > don't cut it. My wife is going to get the vaccine this morning but
> > the guy decided to wait to see what develops. He's a big, husky, guy
> > that's in a high risk group of dying of this disease or having a very
> > bumpy ride if he gets it. My understanding is that a lot of the staff
> > at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds
> > like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4
> > years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and
> > the nature of reality. There's no going back now.
> >
> If I ran the world any health care worker who refused the vaccine would
> be fired, or else they would have to come up with a valid doctor's note
> explaining why they can't take it. These people are dealing with sick
> and vulnerable people, the most likely to hit badly by this virus. I
> don't know how things are down there, but the hardest hit places are the
> long term care homes for the aged, and the mortality rate is extre,mely
> high. They account for about 80% of Covid19 deaths.
You might have a point there but this is still the land of the free (not really) and the home of the brave (not really.) Nobody's going to be forced to get this vaccine. OTOH, the stakes are so high with long term care homes that there probably will be some kind of provision made for workers that refuse to take the special precautions that are needed.
Let's face it, this is a shitty time to die in a care home or in general. A client of mine had to visit his dying mom behind a glass window. When she did pass, there wasn't a way to see her off. My dad died a year ago and we were able to have a funeral before all this started. It might seem silly but we were very fortunate in that regard.

On 2020-12-22 12:54 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 7:17:50 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith

> You might have a point there but this is still the land of the free
> (not really) and the home of the brave (not really.) Nobody's going
> to be forced to get this vaccine. OTOH, the stakes are so high with
> long term care homes that there probably will be some kind of
> provision made for workers that refuse to take the special
> precautions that are needed. Let's face it, this is a shitty time to
> die in a care home or in general. A client of mine had to visit his
> dying mom behind a glass window. When she did pass, there wasn't a
> way to see her off. My dad died a year ago and we were able to have a
> funeral before all this started. It might seem silly but we were very
> fortunate in that regard.


My heart goes out to people who have suffered a loss during this
pandemic. One of the saddest cases I heard was that of a friend from the
dog park. He husband had come down with an especially aggressive form of
cancer, was hospitalized and died within a week or two. She had not been
allowed to see him at all in the hospital.

Thank goodness for small mercies. One of my nieces died at the end of
Feb. It was very sudden, apparently a silent heart attack. She had not
exhibited any symptoms and had no warning. She was fine one minute, and
gone the next. We went up to Ottawa to attend the event. We drove to
Ottawa by way of New York state. They had a nice visitation with lots
of people in attendance. If it had happened two weeks later there would
have been no gathering and we would not have been able to take the
shortcut through the US.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:01:08 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Master Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >"dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
> >> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
> >I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I
> >don't
> >feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
> >food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's
> >a
> >good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
> >pie.
> >The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
> >
> >====
> >
> > I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
>
> I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.
> =====
>
> Yes! I am very grateful that we live in a very tiny village. No one here
> has a problem and atm we are on tier one! I hear that soon everywhere will
> be in tier 4. Not that it means my village will be worse. I think they are
> just trying to contain everything, everywhere.
>
> We (personally and everyone in our village) have been lucky to be so safe.
> I hear that there is a new strain of the virus! We do chat to neighbours
> but
> always from a distance.
>
> I hope everyone where you live in safe.
>
> Keep well!!
I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand shake
but I opted for the elbow bump. These days, fist bumps just don't cut it. My
wife is going to get the vaccine this morning but the guy decided to wait to
see what develops. He's a big, husky, guy that's in a high risk group of
dying of this disease or having a very bumpy ride if he gets it. My
understanding is that a lot of the staff at the hospital where they work is
refusing the vaccine. That sounds like a dumb move to me but these are not
normal times. The last 4 years have fundamentally changed the American
concept of truth and the nature of reality. There's no going back now.

=====

True Good for you! I always say, better safe than sorry!!! I didn't
want the vaccine but now, after seeing what is happening here.....

It is getting bad here

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:00:59 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>>
>>On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>>I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
>>feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
>>food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's a
>>good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
>>pie.
>>The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>>
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>>
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
>>
>>====
>>
>> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid problem((
>
>I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.
>
>=====
>
> Yes! I am very grateful that we live in a very tiny village. No one here
>has a problem and atm we are on tier one! I hear that soon everywhere will
>be in tier 4. Not that it means my village will be worse. I think they are
>just trying to contain everything, everywhere.
>
>We (personally and everyone in our village) have been lucky to be so safe.
>I hear that there is a new strain of the virus! We do chat to neighbours but
>always from a distance.
>
>I hope everyone where you live in safe.
>
>Keep well!!

Thanks, you too. At least, they think the vaccines will also help
against the new strains or else can be adapted quickly.

Sydney has an outbreak from an international flight crew and the cab
driver who drove them to their hotel. Pilots, stewardesses etc. I
don't understand why they don't treat these people like a bio hazard
and keep them away from everybody.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:47:53 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>My late SiL was a nurse who refused to get a flu shot for work. She
>didn't like the idea of injecting foreign bodies into her body. She had
>no problem with smoking cigarettes and sucking all nicotine and tars
>into her body and ended up dying of lung cancer.

Dave bitches about anything and anybody, dying people included.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:04:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:05:49 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 01:26:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:35:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Me being down is not that bad. Mostly, I feel tired. Sorry to hear of the problems in the UK. Hopefully, the problem is not as serious as some people make it out to be. OTOH, the British people will prevail, as they always do.
>> >> What happens when a country doesn't prevail and how do you know it's
>> >> not prevailing?
>>
>> >That would be a question for you to answer. I don't typically view life in a fearful, pessimistic, manner.
>> You said the British people will prevail, but you don't know what that
>> means. I also hope they'll prevail, but I also don't know what that
>> means.
>Indeed I did say that. I always know exactly what I mean. That doesn't mean I'm going to give my time to people that demand and expect an explanation to everything I post. The reality is that you don't really care about the UK or what I think about the spirit of the Brits.
>
Always a pleasure talking to you.
>

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:00:59 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>>
>>On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>>I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
>>feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
>>food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's
>>a
>>good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
>>pie.
>>The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>>
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>>
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
>>
>>====
>>
>> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid
>> problem((
>
>I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.
>
>=====
>
> Yes! I am very grateful that we live in a very tiny village. No one here
>has a problem and atm we are on tier one! I hear that soon everywhere will
>be in tier 4. Not that it means my village will be worse. I think they
>are
>just trying to contain everything, everywhere.
>
>We (personally and everyone in our village) have been lucky to be so safe.
>I hear that there is a new strain of the virus! We do chat to neighbours
>but
>always from a distance.
>
>I hope everyone where you live in safe.
>
>Keep well!!

Thanks, you too. At least, they think the vaccines will also help
against the new strains or else can be adapted quickly.

Sydney has an outbreak from an international flight crew and the cab
driver who drove them to their hotel. Pilots, stewardesses etc. I
don't understand why they don't treat these people like a bio hazard
and keep them away from everybody.

===

Oh dear, yes!!!! We have a new strain and it seems we will be in tier 4
on Boxing day

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 19:56:31 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:00:59 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:44:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:34:42 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> Grilled lamb chops, air fryer roasted potatoes, steamed asparagus and a
>>>> salad with blue cheese dressing. Dessert was a sweet cherry crisp.
>>>I've been hit with a bout of depression. I feel perfectly fine but I don't
>>>feel like cooking anything. We went to a restaurant that serves BBQ. The
>>>food was pretty good but my appetite is down due to being depressed. It's
>>>a
>>>good joint if you're not depressed. Dessert was a Okinawan sweet potato
>>>pie.
>>>The thing reminded me of the Hokulea.
>>>
>>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/DLRFWWutEHsjxngk6
>>>
>>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/nim8hPj5LSKEPeAB7
>>>
>>>====
>>>
>>> I am awfully down atm. I think it might be due to the Covid
>>> problem((
>>
>>I only hear bad news coming from the UK at the moment.
>>
>>=====
>>
>> Yes! I am very grateful that we live in a very tiny village. No one here
>>has a problem and atm we are on tier one! I hear that soon everywhere will
>>be in tier 4. Not that it means my village will be worse. I think they
>>are
>>just trying to contain everything, everywhere.
>>
>>We (personally and everyone in our village) have been lucky to be so safe.
>>I hear that there is a new strain of the virus! We do chat to neighbours
>>but
>>always from a distance.
>>
>>I hope everyone where you live in safe.
>>
>>Keep well!!
>
>Thanks, you too. At least, they think the vaccines will also help
>against the new strains or else can be adapted quickly.
>
>Sydney has an outbreak from an international flight crew and the cab
>driver who drove them to their hotel. Pilots, stewardesses etc. I
>don't understand why they don't treat these people like a bio hazard
>and keep them away from everybody.
>
>===
>
> Oh dear, yes!!!! We have a new strain and it seems we will be in tier 4
>on Boxing day

When we get locked down by covid or a flooding of the roads, I always
make sure we have enough wine and cat food in the house.

On 12/22/2020 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump.

I don't understand the elbow bump thing at all. Why do people need to
do some form of greeting which involves touching a total stranger when
we're in the middle of a global pandemic? People are being told if they
have to cough or sneeze to do it in the crook of their arm which, gee,
is right next to their elbow. I don't want strangers touching me, I
just nod and say hello.

>> My understanding is that a lot of the staff
>> at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds
>> like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4
>> years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and
>> the nature of reality. There's no going back now.
>>
>
> If I ran the world any health care worker who refused the vaccine would
> be fired, or else they would have to come up with a valid doctor's note
> explaining why they can't take it. These people are dealing with sick
> and vulnerable people, the most likely to hit badly by this virus. (snippage)

The Covid vaccines are so new I can understand why some people wouldn't
rush out to get it. I do think it should be a requirement for personnel
in a medical setting, those who work in facilities dealing with at-risk
patients. If the employees refused I'd sure as heck send them packing.
I'll go an unpopular step further and say they should probably also
not be eligible for unemployment benefits if they are fired for failure
to comply with the hospital/medical facility requirements.

Jill

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:01:15 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/22/2020 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
>>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump.
>
>I don't understand the elbow bump thing at all. Why do people need to
>do some form of greeting which involves touching a total stranger when
>we're in the middle of a global pandemic? People are being told if they
>have to cough or sneeze to do it in the crook of their arm which, gee,
>is right next to their elbow. I don't want strangers touching me, I
>just nod and say hello.

I'm sure people sense that when they see you.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:01:15 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/22/2020 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
>>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump.
>
>I don't understand the elbow bump thing at all. Why do people need to
>do some form of greeting which involves touching a total stranger when
>we're in the middle of a global pandemic? People are being told if they
>have to cough or sneeze to do it in the crook of their arm which, gee,
>is right next to their elbow. I don't want strangers touching me, I
>just nod and say hello.
>
>>> My understanding is that a lot of the staff
>>> at the hospital where they work is refusing the vaccine. That sounds
>>> like a dumb move to me but these are not normal times. The last 4
>>> years have fundamentally changed the American concept of truth and
>>> the nature of reality. There's no going back now.
>>>
>>
>> If I ran the world any health care worker who refused the vaccine would
>> be fired, or else they would have to come up with a valid doctor's note
>> explaining why they can't take it. These people are dealing with sick
>> and vulnerable people, the most likely to hit badly by this virus. (snippage)
>
>The Covid vaccines are so new I can understand why some people wouldn't
>rush out to get it. I do think it should be a requirement for personnel
>in a medical setting, those who work in facilities dealing with at-risk
>patients. If the employees refused I'd sure as heck send them packing.
> I'll go an unpopular step further and say they should probably also
>not be eligible for unemployment benefits if they are fired for failure
>to comply with the hospital/medical facility requirements.
>
>Jill

I shop in town once a week as usual, go to the Post Office to get my
mail from the POB, and and go to Walgreens for OTC Meds, I don't go
close to anyone and I don't say anything, I may nod if they say hello.
That's all the contact I make. I wear a mask and spend a minimum
amount of time in town. I would normally spend time conversing with
everyone but not now... very sad... especially at holiday time... it's
depressing but I have hope this will all be over soon. I come home
and take care of the cats.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 1:34:57 PM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:01:15 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
> >On 12/22/2020 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
> >>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump.
> >
> >I don't understand the elbow bump thing at all. Why do people need to
> >do some form of greeting which involves touching a total stranger when
> >we're in the middle of a global pandemic? People are being told if they
> >have to cough or sneeze to do it in the crook of their arm which, gee,
> >is right next to their elbow. I don't want strangers touching me, I
> >just nod and say hello.
> I'm sure people sense that when they see you.
I can sense that from here.

Master Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:01:15 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/22/2020 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-12-22 11:58 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I met my wife's co-worker yesterday. He wanted to do a full-on hand
>>>> shake but I opted for the elbow bump.
>>
>> I don't understand the elbow bump thing at all. Why do people need to
>> do some form of greeting which involves touching a total stranger when
>> we're in the middle of a global pandemic? People are being told if they
>> have to cough or sneeze to do it in the crook of their arm which, gee,
>> is right next to their elbow. I don't want strangers touching me, I
>> just nod and say hello.
>
> I'm sure people sense that when they see you.
>

Master druce, your nose is twitching furiously!

Quick before she gets away.