It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:21 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all.

Que?

Dave Smith wrote:
> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.

ditto!


songbird

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
> ditto!
>
Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>
> songbird

--Bryan

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>> ditto!
>>
>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?

I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!

I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
and neither did I. We're so cool.

Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:21 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all.
>
> Que?
>

Qué!

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>> ditto!
>>>
>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>
> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>
> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
> and neither did I. We're so cool.

When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>> ditto!
>>
> Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
> is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>
>> songbird
>
> --Bryan
>

In olden times, merry was another word for drunken.

Making merry = getting drunk.

On 2020-12-23 8:33 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>> ditto!
>>
> Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
> is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>

I could gopher that.

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>> ditto!
>>>>
>>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>
>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>
>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>
>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.

Yes

It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>> ditto!
>>>>
>>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>
>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>
>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>
>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.

Yes

It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.

====

Here 2C/35.6F. And we have snow!

Master Bruce wrote:
> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.

Traditional Christmas weather for me would be cold and hopefully even
snowing. Just what I grew up with.

I would think that Christmas in the southern hemisphere would take some
getting used to.

Was that an issue with you right after you moved from the Netherlands?

On 12/23/2020 10:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-23 8:33 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>> ditto!
>>>
>> Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>> is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>
>
> I could gopher that.


I always say, "Happy Christmas." It's a tribute to my all-time favorite
musician, John Lennon.

From his song of the same name.

Dave Smith wrote:

> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.

Thanks! Ours is kicking off with a new TV. The old one had been flaky
for a few years and finally gave out last night.

Off to BJ's this morning to get a new one. Living room TV is fine,
this one is for the family room.

On 24/12/2020 12:15, Ophelia wrote:

> Â*Here 2C/35.6F.Â*Â* And we have snow!
>
Here, too. I woke up to a pretty dusting in the garden, and when the
clouds lifted, snow covering Ben Loyal and Ben Hope. Very pretty! And
since I have food and fuel, no need to go out and freeze my toes, I can
just admire it while sitting next to a glowing fire.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:43:42 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>>> ditto!
>>>>>
>>>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>>
>>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>>
>>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>>
>>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.
>
> Yes
>
> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.

One's metabolism adjusts to the hotter climate. I used to put on a light
sweater when the temperature dropped to that level:-)
I'm not kidding, I really did!

On 12/23/2020 6:49 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> It's theÂ* eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.

Same to you, Dave, and to everyone here.

Jill

On 2020-12-24 8:41 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 24/12/2020 12:15, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Â*Â*Here 2C/35.6F.Â*Â* And we have snow!
>>
> Here, too. I woke up to a pretty dusting in the garden, and when the
> clouds lifted, snow covering Ben Loyal and Ben Hope. Very pretty! And
> since I have food and fuel, no need to go out and freeze my toes, I can
> just admire it while sitting next to a glowing fire.
>

It is 48F here but dropping to 27 overnight. We are expecting heavy rain
this afternoon and turning to snow by evening and should have 5-6" of
snow for Christmas morning.

On 2020-12-24 8:58 a.m., Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:43:42 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>>>> ditto!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>>> is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>>>
>>>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>>>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>>>
>>>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>>>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>>>
>>> When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>>> getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>>> I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>>> Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>
> One's metabolism adjusts to the hotter climate. I used to put on a light
> sweater when the temperature dropped to that level:-)
> I'm not kidding, I really did!
>

My son lived in Uganda for close to a year. He said that it was usually
about 83 F. If it dropped down to 8- people would put on a sweater.

Most of the migrant workers around here are Mexican, but 20-30 years ago
they were mostly Jamaicans. In the middle of July they would be wearing
coveralls and a sweater.

Graham wrote:
> Master Bruce wrote:
>> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>
> One's metabolism adjusts to the hotter climate. I used to put on a light
> sweater when the temperature dropped to that level:-)
> I'm not kidding, I really did!

Did I read this right? You put on a sweater when the temp is 80F?

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:37:39 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>
>Thanks! Ours is kicking off with a new TV. The old one had been flaky
>for a few years and finally gave out last night.
>
>Off to BJ's this morning to get a new one. Living room TV is fine,
>this one is for the family room.

Normally people get a TV with a larger screen for a larger room.
Nowadays people are cheapskates and buy a TV too small for the room...
then they need to rearrange their furniture so they can sit closer.
There are web sites with formulas for what size TV to get for
different size rooms and viewing distance.

On 12/24/2020 1:15 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:37:39 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>
>> Thanks! Ours is kicking off with a new TV. The old one had been flaky
>> for a few years and finally gave out last night.
>>
>> Off to BJ's this morning to get a new one. Living room TV is fine,
>> this one is for the family room.
>
> Normally people get a TV with a larger screen for a larger room.
> Nowadays people are cheapskates and buy a TV too small for the room...
> then they need to rearrange their furniture so they can sit closer.
> There are web sites with formulas for what size TV to get for
> different size rooms and viewing distance.
>

No excuses now. Prices for even very big ones are very reasonable now.
My living room is 55" but if it dies, new one will be 65".

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:14:22 -0500, Gary wrote:

> Graham wrote:
>> Master Bruce wrote:
>>> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>>
>> One's metabolism adjusts to the hotter climate. I used to put on a light
>> sweater when the temperature dropped to that level:-)
>> I'm not kidding, I really did!
>
> Did I read this right? You put on a sweater when the temp is 80F?

Yes!I had acclimatised to daily temperatures above 30C/86F.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/24/2020 1:15 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:37:39 -0600, "cshenk" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's the* eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>
>>> Thanks!* Ours is kicking off with a new TV.* The old one had
>>> been flaky
>>> for a few years and finally gave out last night.
>>>
>>> Off to BJ's this morning to get a new one.* Living room TV is fine,
>>> this one is for the family room.
>>
>> Normally people get a TV with a larger screen for a larger room.
>> Nowadays people are cheapskates and buy a TV too small for the
>> room...
>> then they need to rearrange their furniture so they can sit closer.
>> There are web sites with formulas for what size TV to get for
>> different size rooms and viewing distance.
>>
>
> No excuses now.* Prices for even very big ones are very reasonable
> now. *My living room is 55" but if it dies, new one will be 65".

But Popeye's will still be bigger (and better).

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:15:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>>> ditto!
>>>>>
>>>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>>
>>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>>
>>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>>
>>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.
>
>Yes
>
>It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>
>====
>
> Here 2C/35.6F. And we have snow!

An authentic Christmas!

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 11:39:10 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-24 8:41 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 24/12/2020 12:15, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Â*Â*Here 2C/35.6F.Â*Â* And we have snow!
>>>
>> Here, too. I woke up to a pretty dusting in the garden, and when the
>> clouds lifted, snow covering Ben Loyal and Ben Hope. Very pretty! And
>> since I have food and fuel, no need to go out and freeze my toes, I can
>> just admire it while sitting next to a glowing fire.
>>
>
>It is 48F here

F? Et tu, Canadians?

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 08:11:59 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Master Bruce wrote:
>> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>
>Traditional Christmas weather for me would be cold and hopefully even
>snowing. Just what I grew up with.
>
>I would think that Christmas in the southern hemisphere would take some
>getting used to.
>
>Was that an issue with you right after you moved from the Netherlands?

Christmas was never a big thing for me, but yeah, it's a bit weird
that it's so hot. It helps not to eat heavy European Christmas food,
but keep it light and seafoody in this climate. No hot chocolate or
mulled wine, but chardy or sauvignon etc.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:58:08 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:43:42 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>>>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>>>
>>>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>>>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>>>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>>>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>
>One's metabolism adjusts to the hotter climate. I used to put on a light
>sweater when the temperature dropped to that level:-)
>I'm not kidding, I really did!

Yes, you do adjust. Comfortable room temperature used to start at
18C/64F for me. Now it starts at 23C/73F.

On 2020-12-24 1:15 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:37:39 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>
>> Thanks! Ours is kicking off with a new TV. The old one had been flaky
>> for a few years and finally gave out last night.
>>
>> Off to BJ's this morning to get a new one. Living room TV is fine,
>> this one is for the family room.
>
> Normally people get a TV with a larger screen for a larger room.
> Nowadays people are cheapskates and buy a TV too small for the room...
> then they need to rearrange their furniture so they can sit closer.
> There are web sites with formulas for what size TV to get for
> different size rooms and viewing distance.
>


Maybe it has more to do with some people not wanting to make the
television the major item in a room. My wife grew up without a
television, and it certainly was not a matter of money. Her father
thought TV was a waste of time. We had a TV in the living room when we
were newly wed and living in apartments and had nowhere else to put it.
We had our only TV in a room upstairs. Somewhere along the line we got
a second one and put it in the family room. The room could easily
handle a 55" or bigger, but this 44 is more than adequate for our needs.

On 2020-12-24 1:30 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
is one is for the family room.
>>
>> Normally people get a TV with a larger screen for a larger room.
>> Nowadays people are cheapskates and buy a TV too small for the room...
>> then they need to rearrange their furniture so they can sit closer.
>> There are web sites with formulas for what size TV to get for
>> different size rooms and viewing distance.
>>
>
> No excuses now.Â* Prices for even very big ones are very reasonable now.
> Â*My living room is 55" but if it dies, new one will be 65".

Back when this pandemic started I bought a new TV for our TV room and
moved the old (45") to the family room. I had bought the 45" 10 years
ago and with taxes it was just under $1,000... many thanks to the
extended health/home care insurance benefit it got. I was looking at the
newer ones and could get a much bigger one in the same price range.
Then the salesman told me about the sale on an Insignia 55" smart TV
for $479. We are very happy with it. We don't have any secondary sound
system or auxiliary speakers, but you would swear there are extra stereo
speakers.

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 24/12/2020 12:15, Ophelia wrote:

>  Here 2C/35.6F.  And we have snow!
>
Here, too. I woke up to a pretty dusting in the garden, and when the
clouds lifted, snow covering Ben Loyal and Ben Hope. Very pretty! And
since I have food and fuel, no need to go out and freeze my toes, I can
just admire it while sitting next to a glowing fire.

===

LOL same here)))

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:15:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>>> ditto!
>>>>>
>>>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>>
>>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>>
>>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>>
>>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.
>
>Yes
>
>It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>
>====
>
> Here 2C/35.6F. And we have snow!

An authentic Christmas!

===

Oh yes!!!! It's lovely))))))

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 06:48:11 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 08:11:59 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Master Bruce wrote:
>>> It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>>
>>Traditional Christmas weather for me would be cold and hopefully even
>>snowing. Just what I grew up with.
>>
>>I would think that Christmas in the southern hemisphere would take some
>>getting used to.
>>
>>Was that an issue with you right after you moved from the Netherlands?
>
> Christmas was never a big thing for me, but yeah, it's a bit weird
> that it's so hot. It helps not to eat heavy European Christmas food,
> but keep it light and seafoody in this climate. No hot chocolate or
> mulled wine, but chardy or sauvignon etc.

For our first xmas in Perth, friends served a chicken salad. Apparently
some people still cooked a traditional British-style xmas dinner but the
bird was always cokked a day or two ahead to have cold as a heatwave could
strike on the day.

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 06:43:47 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:15:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:49:53 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:40:08 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 7:29:15 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> > It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>>>> ditto!
>>>>>>
>>>>>Why is Christmas *merry*, and all the other holidays, *happy*? WTF
>>>>>is up with that? Can we have a *jubilant* Groundhog Day?
>>>>
>>>> I hate when Australians start wishing each other Merry Christmas late
>>>> October. One week in advance, max. Or better yet: not at all!
>>>>
>>>> I just spoke to our neighbour and she didn't wish me Merry Christmas
>>>> and neither did I. We're so cool.
>>>
>>>When I worked in Perth, the coffee lady told me that she always started
>>>getting the xmas spirit when the temperature started to go up!!!
>>>I remember walking past shops when the temperature was in the high 30s
>>>Celsius hearing "In the deep midwinter" blasting from their loudspeakers.
>>
>>Yes
>>
>>It's a cool Christmas this year, here. Only 27C/80F.
>>
>>====
>>
>> Here 2C/35.6F. And we have snow!
>
> An authentic Christmas!

We had about 25cms of the white stuff on Tuesday and the road in front of
my house is difficult to drive on as the snowplough hasn't been by.

On 2020-12-24 5:02 p.m., Graham wrote:

> For our first xmas in Perth, friends served a chicken salad. Apparently
> some people still cooked a traditional British-style xmas dinner but the
> bird was always cokked a day or two ahead to have cold as a heatwave could
> strike on the day.
>

That would take some getting used to for me. I just can't imagine
Christmas without snow.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:50:52 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-12-24 1:15 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:37:39 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's the eve of Christmas Eve, so Christmas Eve to all. Be safe.
>>>
>>> Thanks! Ours is kicking off with a new TV. The old one had been flaky
>>> for a few years and finally gave out last night.
>>>
>>> Off to BJ's this morning to get a new one. Living room TV is fine,
>>> this one is for the family room.
>>
>> Normally people get a TV with a larger screen for a larger room.
>> Nowadays people are cheapskates and buy a TV too small for the room...
>> then they need to rearrange their furniture so they can sit closer.
>> There are web sites with formulas for what size TV to get for
>> different size rooms and viewing distance.
>>
>
>
> Maybe it has more to do with some people not wanting to make the
> television the major item in a room. My wife grew up without a
> television, and it certainly was not a matter of money. Her father
> thought TV was a waste of time. We had a TV in the living room when we
> were newly wed and living in apartments and had nowhere else to put it.
> We had our only TV in a room upstairs. Somewhere along the line we got
> a second one and put it in the family room. The room could easily
> handle a 55" or bigger, but this 44 is more than adequate for our needs.

Mine is a 27" CRT set. I've thought about getting a big flat screen model
but there's so much crap on that it's not really worthwhile. If I do
weaken, no charity will take it - they all want flat screen models.

On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 12:05:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-24 5:02 p.m., Graham wrote:
>
> > For our first xmas in Perth, friends served a chicken salad. Apparently
> > some people still cooked a traditional British-style xmas dinner but the
> > bird was always cokked a day or two ahead to have cold as a heatwave could
> > strike on the day.
> >
> That would take some getting used to for me. I just can't imagine
> Christmas without snow.
My step-mom was lamenting the fact that back when she was growing up in Sweden they always had a white Christmas. That's not true anymore. The Northern areas are still snowy but that's slowly changing. Of course, that's the way humans view things. In nature's way of seeing things, the climate is changing rapidly. She expects the Sweden will be tropical in the future. Perhaps in your case, the unimaginable will become a reality.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:02:37 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 06:48:11 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> Christmas was never a big thing for me, but yeah, it's a bit weird
>> that it's so hot. It helps not to eat heavy European Christmas food,
>> but keep it light and seafoody in this climate. No hot chocolate or
>> mulled wine, but chardy or sauvignon etc.
>
>For our first xmas in Perth, friends served a chicken salad. Apparently
>some people still cooked a traditional British-style xmas dinner but the
>bird was always cokked a day or two ahead to have cold as a heatwave could
>strike on the day.

Yes, it's better to adjust to the weather. Who wants to eat a roast
with gravy and poached pears in red wine sauce when it's 35 degrees.
We're having prawns and salad with white wine for lunch. Not even a
pav this year, I believe.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:07:56 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:50:52 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Maybe it has more to do with some people not wanting to make the
>> television the major item in a room. My wife grew up without a
>> television, and it certainly was not a matter of money. Her father
>> thought TV was a waste of time. We had a TV in the living room when we
>> were newly wed and living in apartments and had nowhere else to put it.
>> We had our only TV in a room upstairs. Somewhere along the line we got
>> a second one and put it in the family room. The room could easily
>> handle a 55" or bigger, but this 44 is more than adequate for our needs.
>
>Mine is a 27" CRT set. I've thought about getting a big flat screen model
>but there's so much crap on that it's not really worthwhile. If I do
>weaken, no charity will take it - they all want flat screen models.

There's lots of good stuff you can watch, whatever your taste is. But
what you shouldn't do, is sit in front of the TV and watch whatever
happens to be on. That's torture.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:07:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-24 5:02 p.m., Graham wrote:
>
>> For our first xmas in Perth, friends served a chicken salad. Apparently
>> some people still cooked a traditional British-style xmas dinner but the
>> bird was always cokked a day or two ahead to have cold as a heatwave could
>> strike on the day.
>>
>
>That would take some getting used to for me. I just can't imagine
>Christmas without snow.

You are welcome to as much of our 4' dump as you want, about a third
has melted, still a lot. We're suposed to get more snow tomorrow.