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On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> >> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
> >>
> >> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
> >> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
> >> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
> >> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
> >>
> >> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
> >> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
> >> spreading the virus.

> >
> > Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
> > Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
> > poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
> > Not going to risk being punched or shot at.

> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!


A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
candidate for death if she gets the virus.

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 01:37:49 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
>> > Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
>> > poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
>> > Not going to risk being punched or shot at.

>> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!

>
>A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
>It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
>one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
>Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
>candidate for death if she gets the virus.

..
Professional help for sure and a suburban mouse in real life.
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On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 10:06:02 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 29, , Master Bruce wrote
> (in >):
> > Nevertheless, at least in the US, right-wingers tend to be covid
> > spreaders.

> Cite a non-leftist publication that states that.


He doesn't need to. COVID has spread most in population centers
of any political stripe, followed by less-populous areas. Even the
MSM will tell you that.

Bruce is wrong, of course.

The effects of spread in more politically conservative areas
might be more severe, given they're already underserved in
health care. For example, liberal Ann Arbor-Ypsilanti has
two large, well-equipped hospitals. The Upper Peninsula,
not so much.

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On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 10:08:23 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:36:52 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > >> OMG. He is not a gardener and yes, he's black.
> > >
> > > That's really all you came here to tell us. It took your four
> > > paragraphs, though.

> >
> > No. I asked about the cuisine.

> But you didn't ask him, the real-life face-to-face source of all the
> answers and information you require abouy his preferred food. Why is
> that?
>
> There is no (single) Tanzanian cuisine.
>
> FYI the continent of Africa is far more ethnically diverse than USA
> (and correspondingly more diverse in cultures, languages, religions,
> cuisines).
>
> Every country within Africa has its own long history of migration,
> wars, invasion, foreign colonialisation, and occupation. Including
> Tanzania, which has at least a thousand years of sea trade with the
> Middle East, Far East: India and Arabia, Pakistan, Iran etc.


If you don't mind continuing:

Colonists from central Europe and the UK were rivals in Tanzania during the WWI, so some of the food traits will have their origins from there.
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Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> >> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
> >>
> >> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
> >> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
> >> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
> >> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
> >>
> >> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
> >> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
> >> spreading the virus.

> >
> > Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
> > Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
> > poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
> > Not going to risk being punched or shot at.

> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!



One cannot believe *one* word that Julie spouts, Graham...in reference to her, remember this old saw:

"A lie can go half way 'round the world, whilst the truth is still putting on its shoes..."

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, wrote:
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, says...
> >> >> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
> >> >> them.
> >> >>
> >> > Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask
> >> > for
> >> > promises at the start of a new relationship. I would, however, ask the
> >> > guy what kind of food he likes to eat.
> >>
> >> I didn't ask for anything. Our first date was 3.5 hours long and was all
> >> talking. Food did not come up except for my mentioning that I was
> >> stopping
> >> at Taco Time on the way home. We mostly talked about what we wanted in a
> >> relationship.

> >
> > "what I want from a relationship" does not amount to " a promise "
> >
> > Julie, you always pick wronguns. Men who treat you like their
> > kitchen skivvy, a doormat to wipe their feet on.
> >
> >> Really, what we talked about was between the two of us.

> >
> > Yet here you are again, blabbing his private life to all. Same old .

> Not really. We had a 3.5 hour talk. Do you think I'm going to post all of
> that here? Don't worry. I won't be here much longer. Who will you pick on
> then?



If you aren't careful you'll end up getting all pregnant...

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On 12/30/2020 2:13 AM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 29, , Master Bruce wrote
> (in >):
>
>> I agree that it should be. But you can't deny that it has become very
>> political in your country. In my countries the left and the right
>> pretty much agree with what their governments are doing. It's mainly
>> the kooks from both sides who disagree.

>
> It´s a shame that we are where we are. Both sides are to blame. I can´t
> foresee a solution. My social, culinary and political thoughts haven´t
> changed a whit since 1970, so you know where I stand.
>
>> (I realise that you might never read this.)

>
> I´m hanging in there for the time being, but I´ve been up for 17 hours,
> and I´m old. I could blink out at any time and in any way
>
>

If you "blink out" please have someone notify us. I don't want to have
to do another "anyone heard from" post.

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On 2020-12-30 6:00 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...

tchen skivvy, a doormat to wipe their feet on.
>
>> Really, what we talked about was between the two of us.

>
> Yet here you are again, blabbing his private life to all. Same old .
>
>


Not a problem. She will just deny the things she told to all.


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On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
>>>>
>>>> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
>>>> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
>>>> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
>>>> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
>>>>
>>>> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
>>>> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
>>>> spreading the virus.
>>>
>>> Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
>>> Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
>>> poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
>>> Not going to risk being punched or shot at.

>> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!

>
> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>
> --Bryan
>

That's low, even for you.

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"Leo" wrote in message
vidual.Net...

On 2020 Dec 29, , cshenk wrote
(in >):

> French trinity or something like that? I seem to recall that's a bit of
> how many recipes there go.


I like it! That´s easier to say than mirror paw.

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The Trinity known as Mirepoix -

Mirepoix (pronunciation: meer-PWAH) is the aromatic flavor base made by
lightly cooking onions, celery, and carrots. ... Mirepoix is traditionally
used as a flavoring ingredient, which means the vegetables are typically
strained out or removed from the final dish before the end of the cooking
process.

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 01:37:49 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in
> an ICU. Maybe one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe
> the turdlet will kill her.
>
> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
> she's a good candidate for death if she gets the virus.


I see you've recovered completely from your Covid-19 infection and are
now back to your original form, Bryan.

I've berated you as sarcastically as possible several times, and all I
ever got was labelled a 'wacky misfit'. Others here similarly get
described as 'goofy', etc.

John, at least, has committed the atrocious act of giving us a negative
non-professional opinion of your mental health, and this from someone who
admits to mental health issues of his own.

So what did Julie do to you specifically to merit such personal animus?
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On 12/30/2020 10:38 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Leo"Â* wrote in message
> vidual.Net...
>
> On 2020 Dec 29, , cshenk wrote
> (in >):
>
>> French trinity or something like that? I seem to recall that's a bit of
>> how many recipes there go.

>
> I like it! That´s easier to say than mirror paw.
>
> ===
>
> The Trinity known as Mirepoix -
>
> Mirepoix (pronunciation: meer-PWAH) is the aromatic flavor base made by
> lightly cooking onions, celery, and carrots. ... Mirepoix is
> traditionally used as a flavoring ingredient, which means the vegetables
> are typically strained out or removed from the final dish before the end
> of the cooking process.


Thank you! Now please explain 'bouquet garni'. I use a tea ball for
that particular blend of herbs used to season a soup rather than bother
with making a bundle using cheesecloth tied with kitchen twine.

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:18:39 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

> Not really. We had a 3.5 hour talk. Do you think I'm going to post all of
> that here? Don't worry. I won't be here much longer.


For that we will be eternally grateful!


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On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 12/29/2020 8:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 12/27/2020 5:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>>
>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward to a
>>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>>
>>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>>
>>>> Please do tell her about it, Silvar.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to see some of those Tanzania recipes. The only African
>>>> food I've had was some really nice homemade Ethoipian Injera bread with
>>>> a nicely spiced lamb and vegetable stew. Delicious!
>>>>
>>>> Julie is trying to impress someonw she barely knows. Her last
>>>> "boyfriend" was allergic to cats. This is a new guy. Gotta wonder where
>>>> she's finding them during a pandemic lockdown.
>>>
>>> I found who I refer to as "The Three Amigos" on the Facebook dating app.
>>> D. found me on Plenty Of Fish. I reactivated my account because I was
>>> bored and thought I'd find someone to talk to. I did. A guy whose dad
>>> worked with my dad. I found him to be boring though. Then D. contacted
>>> me. We met the next day in a parking lot. Again, because so few places
>>> were open. We hit it off right away. Lots of stuff in common. He has two
>>> cats. Great personality. Makes me laugh. I make him laugh. Couldn't be
>>> better.
>>>
>>> Yes, there is a pandemic but... People who are married or live with their
>>> BF/GF can see their other half every day. Kind of un fair to the rest of
>>> us who are supposed to stay home and see no one. I got sick of it. People
>>> aren't meant to be hermits.

>>
>> Some of us are comfortable enough to not need constant company. I talk
>> with my SO on the phone at least once a day. I enjoy solice in reading
>> and having my cat curl up next to me while I do so. I enjoy watching and
>> feeding birds. I take surveys. I watch silly movies on TV. I cook
>> whatever I want to when I feel like and don't need to have someone else
>> there to approve the ingredients.

>
>I don't need constant company but aside from Justin, I haven't much of
>anyone during the pandemic. Saw one friend one time, just to take her a
>book. Saw my mom twice, for about two minutes each time. My brother once,
>his wife twice. And the various BFs a few times. Saw Angela more than
>anyone, but didn't even see her once a week. You might not be a social
>person. I am. I like seeing people. I can't stand watchint TV or movies.
>There is nothing more mind numbing. I do read. I read very fast so buying
>books is expensive!


I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
recipes.
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:01:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 12/28/2020 12:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> " > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>
>>>> Etc.
>>>>
>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward to a
>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>
>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Silvar Beitel
>>>
>>> I would appreciate the discussion. I know there used to be an African
>>> poster here. Carol? I think. Haven't seen a post from her in a while.

>>
>> Are you thinking of Chatty Cathy? The woman who participated in chat and
>> used to post fun RFC survey questions here? She wasn't "African".

>
>Ah yes! I thought she lived in Africa.


She does, in South Africa, with her husband, children, pets, and
livestock. I don't know if she's an African citizen, although she may
well be.
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Graham wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:18:39 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > Not really. We had a 3.5 hour talk. Do you think I'm going to post all of
> > that here? Don't worry. I won't be here much longer.

> For that we will be eternally grateful!



Lol...gawd but her stuff is boring to poke through...!!!

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On 12/30/2020 11:15 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 01:37:49 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in
>> an ICU. Maybe one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe
>> the turdlet will kill her.
>>
>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
>> she's a good candidate for death if she gets the virus.

>
> I see you've recovered completely from your Covid-19 infection and are
> now back to your original form, Bryan.
>
> I've berated you as sarcastically as possible several times, and all I
> ever got was labelled a 'wacky misfit'. Others here similarly get
> described as 'goofy', etc.
>
> John, at least, has committed the atrocious act of giving us a negative
> non-professional opinion of your mental health, and this from someone who
> admits to mental health issues of his own.
>
> So what did Julie do to you specifically to merit such personal animus?
>

For that matter, what did Andy ever do to him? Bryan is right back in
form, wishing people dead. And of course, touting his book which no one
here gives a shit about.

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"Mike Duffy" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 01:37:49 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in
> an ICU. Maybe one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe
> the turdlet will kill her.
>
> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
> she's a good candidate for death if she gets the virus.


I see you've recovered completely from your Covid-19 infection and are
now back to your original form, Bryan.

I've berated you as sarcastically as possible several times, and all I
ever got was labelled a 'wacky misfit'. Others here similarly get
described as 'goofy', etc.

John, at least, has committed the atrocious act of giving us a negative
non-professional opinion of your mental health, and this from someone who
admits to mental health issues of his own.

So what did Julie do to you specifically to merit such personal animus?

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Damn good question!!!!


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On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/29/2020 8:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 12/27/2020 5:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward to a
>>>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please do tell her about it, Silvar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to see some of those Tanzania recipes. The only African
>>>>> food I've had was some really nice homemade Ethoipian Injera bread with
>>>>> a nicely spiced lamb and vegetable stew. Delicious!
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie is trying to impress someonw she barely knows. Her last
>>>>> "boyfriend" was allergic to cats. This is a new guy. Gotta wonder where
>>>>> she's finding them during a pandemic lockdown.
>>>>
>>>> I found who I refer to as "The Three Amigos" on the Facebook dating app.
>>>> D. found me on Plenty Of Fish. I reactivated my account because I was
>>>> bored and thought I'd find someone to talk to. I did. A guy whose dad
>>>> worked with my dad. I found him to be boring though. Then D. contacted
>>>> me. We met the next day in a parking lot. Again, because so few places
>>>> were open. We hit it off right away. Lots of stuff in common. He has two
>>>> cats. Great personality. Makes me laugh. I make him laugh. Couldn't be
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a pandemic but... People who are married or live with their
>>>> BF/GF can see their other half every day. Kind of un fair to the rest of
>>>> us who are supposed to stay home and see no one. I got sick of it. People
>>>> aren't meant to be hermits.
>>>
>>> Some of us are comfortable enough to not need constant company. I talk
>>> with my SO on the phone at least once a day. I enjoy solice in reading
>>> and having my cat curl up next to me while I do so. I enjoy watching and
>>> feeding birds. I take surveys. I watch silly movies on TV. I cook
>>> whatever I want to when I feel like and don't need to have someone else
>>> there to approve the ingredients.

>>
>> I don't need constant company but aside from Justin, I haven't much of
>> anyone during the pandemic. Saw one friend one time, just to take her a
>> book. Saw my mom twice, for about two minutes each time. My brother once,
>> his wife twice. And the various BFs a few times. Saw Angela more than
>> anyone, but didn't even see her once a week. You might not be a social
>> person. I am. I like seeing people. I can't stand watchint TV or movies.
>> There is nothing more mind numbing. I do read. I read very fast so buying
>> books is expensive!

>
> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
> recipes.
>

To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.

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Julie Bove wrote:
> I just can't see paying $75 for
> a top when I can find one I like just as well for $20.


Back about 30 years ago, I saw a winter coat in a surf shop that I
absolutely fell in love with but it cost $160. I didn't buy it then but
probably would have gone back to buy it. It was that cool.

Luckily, a few days later I was shopping in Roses (a K-Mart type of
store) and I found the exact same coat there for only $28. I bought it.
Only difference was it didn't have a "Billabong" patch sewn on the pocket.

I've still got it too! It's a bit worn out now so I don't wear it out
for store shopping but I still use it for around the neighborhood or
winter bike rides.







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jmcquown wrote
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of them.


> Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask for
> promises at the start of a new relationship.


I was about to ask the same question.



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> Under 80 is young these days


lol. Good one!
It's not young, it's just still alive.





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On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote
> :
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>> them.

>
>> Promises?Â* What kind of promises?Â* It would never occur to me to ask for
>> promises at the start of a new relationship.

>
> I was about to ask the same question.
>
>
>

She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who
simply were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to
be one of them.

The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.

Jill
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:19:39 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 10:08:23 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:36:52 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> OMG. He is not a gardener and yes, he's black.
>> > >
>> > > That's really all you came here to tell us. It took your four
>> > > paragraphs, though.
>> >
>> > No. I asked about the cuisine.

>> But you didn't ask him, the real-life face-to-face source of all the
>> answers and information you require abouy his preferred food. Why is
>> that?
>>
>> There is no (single) Tanzanian cuisine.
>>
>> FYI the continent of Africa is far more ethnically diverse than USA
>> (and correspondingly more diverse in cultures, languages, religions,
>> cuisines).
>>
>> Every country within Africa has its own long history of migration,
>> wars, invasion, foreign colonialisation, and occupation. Including
>> Tanzania, which has at least a thousand years of sea trade with the
>> Middle East, Far East: India and Arabia, Pakistan, Iran etc.

>
>If you don't mind continuing:
>
>Colonists from central Europe and the UK were rivals in Tanzania during the WWI, so some of the food traits will have their origins from there.


Can you be more specific about "colonists from central Europe"? Just
curious.
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:41:54 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:18:39 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Not really. We had a 3.5 hour talk. Do you think I'm going to post all of
>> that here? Don't worry. I won't be here much longer.

>
>For that we will be eternally grateful!


Janet UK wants all the details.
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>
>> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
>> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
>> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>

>That's low, even for you.


He can't help it. He's edgy.
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:57:20 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/30/2020 11:15 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
>>> she's a good candidate for death if she gets the virus.

>>
>> I see you've recovered completely from your Covid-19 infection and are
>> now back to your original form, Bryan.
>>
>> I've berated you as sarcastically as possible several times, and all I
>> ever got was labelled a 'wacky misfit'. Others here similarly get
>> described as 'goofy', etc.
>>
>> John, at least, has committed the atrocious act of giving us a negative
>> non-professional opinion of your mental health, and this from someone who
>> admits to mental health issues of his own.
>>
>> So what did Julie do to you specifically to merit such personal animus?
>>

>For that matter, what did Andy ever do to him? Bryan is right back in
>form, wishing people dead. And of course, touting his book which no one
>here gives a shit about.


Maybe the less we care about his book, the more he wants people dead.
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/29/2020 8:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 12/27/2020 5:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward to a
>>>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please do tell her about it, Silvar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to see some of those Tanzania recipes. The only African
>>>>> food I've had was some really nice homemade Ethoipian Injera bread with
>>>>> a nicely spiced lamb and vegetable stew. Delicious!
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie is trying to impress someonw she barely knows. Her last
>>>>> "boyfriend" was allergic to cats. This is a new guy. Gotta wonder where
>>>>> she's finding them during a pandemic lockdown.
>>>>
>>>> I found who I refer to as "The Three Amigos" on the Facebook dating app.
>>>> D. found me on Plenty Of Fish. I reactivated my account because I was
>>>> bored and thought I'd find someone to talk to. I did. A guy whose dad
>>>> worked with my dad. I found him to be boring though. Then D. contacted
>>>> me. We met the next day in a parking lot. Again, because so few places
>>>> were open. We hit it off right away. Lots of stuff in common. He has two
>>>> cats. Great personality. Makes me laugh. I make him laugh. Couldn't be
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a pandemic but... People who are married or live with their
>>>> BF/GF can see their other half every day. Kind of un fair to the rest of
>>>> us who are supposed to stay home and see no one. I got sick of it. People
>>>> aren't meant to be hermits.
>>>
>>> Some of us are comfortable enough to not need constant company. I talk
>>> with my SO on the phone at least once a day. I enjoy solice in reading
>>> and having my cat curl up next to me while I do so. I enjoy watching and
>>> feeding birds. I take surveys. I watch silly movies on TV. I cook
>>> whatever I want to when I feel like and don't need to have someone else
>>> there to approve the ingredients.

>>
>> I don't need constant company but aside from Justin, I haven't much of
>> anyone during the pandemic. Saw one friend one time, just to take her a
>> book. Saw my mom twice, for about two minutes each time. My brother once,
>> his wife twice. And the various BFs a few times. Saw Angela more than
>> anyone, but didn't even see her once a week. You might not be a social
>> person. I am. I like seeing people. I can't stand watchint TV or movies.
>> There is nothing more mind numbing. I do read. I read very fast so buying
>> books is expensive!

>
> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in.


I'm so proud of yoose library card Popeye!



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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:58:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 10:06:02 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Dec 29, , Master Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>> > Nevertheless, at least in the US, right-wingers tend to be covid
>> > spreaders.

>> Cite a non-leftist publication that states that.

>
>He doesn't need to. COVID has spread most in population centers
>of any political stripe, followed by less-populous areas. Even the
>MSM will tell you that.
>
>Bruce is wrong, of course.


I'm right, of course. Right-wingers are more likely to think that
covid's a hoax or at least severely exaggerated. It makes them less
careful. They're spreading the love. It's amazing that you didn't you
know that. It's your country. You can check with Joan, by the way.
She's just had a few maskless holidays with her extended family.
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:14:31 -0500, jmcquown >
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>To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
>Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
>called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
>decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
>I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
>biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
>as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
>complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.


Ooh, there's that green eyed monster again!


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writes:
>On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote
>> :
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>>> them.

>>
>>> Promises?A What kind of promises?A It would never occur to me to ask for
>>> promises at the start of a new relationship.

>>
>> I was about to ask the same question.
>>
>>
>>

>She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
>dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who
>simply were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to
>be one of them.
>
>The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
>home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
>meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.
>
>Jill


There is not an order to "not go shopping."

https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/hea...id-19/FAQ.aspx

Item 24, "What should I be doing as an individual?"

Public Health and the Governor's Office asks everyone to avoid all
non-essential contact with people you don't live with, regardless of
whether they are young and healthy or not.

Stay at home as much as possible. What does it mean to stay home?

Limit trips for groceries, gas and other essentials.

If you must go out, stay at least 6 feet away from others at all times.

Fewer, shorter and safer interactions are crucial.

Wear a cloth face covering when you are at any indoor or outdoor
public space where you are within 6 feet of others.

Continue to practice healthy hand hygiene, cough into sleeves, stay
home when sick, and disinfect high-touch surfaces both inside and
outside their home.

Do not buy more than you need. Many are overstocking on products
that sick neighbors, healthcare providers, and emergency providers
need like hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes. Leave some for
your neighbors!




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On 30/12/2020 18:45, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:19:39 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser


>> Colonists from central Europe and the UK were rivals in Tanzania during the WWI, so some of the food traits will have their origins from there.

>
> Can you be more specific about "colonists from central Europe"? Just
> curious.
>

Presumably he means Germany. Before Tanzania was created, by the union
of Tanganyika with the island of Zanzibar, Tanganyika was known as
Deutsch-OstAfrika.

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GM wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
>>>>
>>>> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
>>>> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
>>>> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
>>>> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
>>>>
>>>> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
>>>> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
>>>> spreading the virus.
>>>
>>> Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
>>> Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
>>> poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
>>> Not going to risk being punched or shot at.

>> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!

>
>
> "A lie can go half way 'round the world, whilst the truth is still putting on its shoes..."
>


Dammit, don't bring trump into this!



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On 2020-12-30 12:14 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

ooks is expensive!
>>
>> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
>> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old.Â* Library
>> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
>> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in.Â* I have a
>> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
>> recipes.
>>

> To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
> Covid-19.Â* I don't have to buy books.Â* There is a library on Dataw
> called 'The Cannery'.Â* Residents donate books and have been doing so for
> decades.Â* I always have five or six books waiting to be read.Â* And yes,
> I read very quickly.Â* The type of books I read vary from historical to
> biographies to fiction and murder mysteries.Â* I'm never bored.Â* I sure
> as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
> complete.Â* Julie comes across as terribly desperate.



Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
box and sit in quarantine for four days.

We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.


I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
enjoyed books.


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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:14:11 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
>than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
>opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
>all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
>box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>
>We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
>switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
>back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
>last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
>have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
>tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>
>
>I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>enjoyed books.


Keep us posted, Dave.
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