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On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:47:03 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 12/29/2020 4:44 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 06:28:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:57:06 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>> cshenk wrote:
> >>>> Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
> >>>> suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
> >>>> he's drinking a lot more.
> >>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?

> >
> > I really like being married to the right person. The first three were
> > short time shit heads. This one is a keeper, 33 years! We're
> >>

> Sheldon, you're starting to fall asleep in the middle of replying, Sheldon.
> >> Sure. We can joke about Sheldon being married; we can joke about
> >> you refraining from re-marrying. At least he was willing to get back
> >> on the horse after falling off a couple of times.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton

> Not everyone wants to get back on that horse.


There is a certain element of luck in finding the right person.

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On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:47:37 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:47:03 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > On 12/29/2020 4:44 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 06:28:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:57:06 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >>> cshenk wrote:
> > >>>> Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
> > >>>> suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
> > >>>> he's drinking a lot more.
> > >>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?
> > >
> > > I really like being married to the right person. The first three were
> > > short time shit heads. This one is a keeper, 33 years! We're
> > >>

> > Sheldon, you're starting to fall asleep in the middle of replying, Sheldon.
> > >> Sure. We can joke about Sheldon being married; we can joke about
> > >> you refraining from re-marrying. At least he was willing to get back
> > >> on the horse after falling off a couple of times.
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Hamilton

> > Not everyone wants to get back on that horse.

> There is a certain element of luck in finding the right person.
>

No question there.
>
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Master Bruce wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> I really like being married to the right person. The first three were
>> short time shit heads.

>
> Then the real shit head is you. For marrying them. Three times! What
> idiot gets it wrong three times?


My ex? Married and divorced 3 times.
She has 3 daughters and each one has a different father.
I was #2 (poop)





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Graham wrote:
> The local news station was interviewing an 80-year-old lady because she had
> just married for the fourth time. The interviewer asked her questions about
> her life, about what it felt like to be marrying again at 80, and then
> about her new husband's occupation. "He's a funeral director," she
> answered.
>
> He then asked her if she wouldn't mind telling him a little about her first
> three husbands and what they did for a living. She paused for a few
> moments, needing time to reflect on all those years. After a short time,
> she answered proudly, explaining that she had first married a banker when
> she was in her 20's, then a circus ringmaster when in her 40's, and a
> preacher when in her 60's, and now - in her 80's - a funeral director.
>
> The interviewer looked at her, quite astonished, and asked why she had
> married four men with such diverse careers.
>
> (Wait for it)
>
> She explained,
>
> "I married one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, and
> four to go."


LOL! Good one, Graham.



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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:47:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:47:03 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On 12/29/2020 4:44 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> > On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 06:28:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:57:06 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> >>> cshenk wrote:
>> >>>> Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
>> >>>> suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
>> >>>> he's drinking a lot more.
>> >>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?
>> >
>> > I really like being married to the right person. The first three were
>> > short time shit heads. This one is a keeper, 33 years! We're
>> >>

>> Sheldon, you're starting to fall asleep in the middle of replying, Sheldon.
>> >> Sure. We can joke about Sheldon being married; we can joke about
>> >> you refraining from re-marrying. At least he was willing to get back
>> >> on the horse after falling off a couple of times.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton

>> Not everyone wants to get back on that horse.

>
>There is a certain element of luck in finding the right person.


And a certain element of stupidity in marrying the wrong one 3 times.
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> I don't consider that to be a weakness because I figure that I'd always figure
> out a way to get an adequate amount of sex without exploiting another
> person. People are touch starved in general if they're not in a loving pair bond,
> even if they don't know it, and awakening that often requires some effort, but
> the rewards are so worth it. ...
> --Bryan


I know I am touch starved, but I do not get mean because of it.

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On 12/30/2020 3:17 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

> I know I am touch starved


You're a useless attention whore and trolling idiot. **** off.
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Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> > Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
> > suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
> > he's drinking a lot more.

>
> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?


Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.

I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.
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cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> cshenk wrote:
>> > Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
>> > suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
>> > he's drinking a lot more.

>>
>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?

>
> Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.
>
> I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
> got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.


i was close a few times but just not ready the first time
and she wasn't ready the 2nd, which in hindsight is a good
thing because we were not a good fit anyways.

as i get older it gets harder to see if it will ever work
out with anyone else now. i'm not worried though at being
happy alone. some people can't live alone and have to always
be busy and have noise and drama. ugh! just let me have
some quiet time and gardens and i'm good.


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On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 9:51:10 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
> > cshenk wrote:
> > > Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
> > > suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
> > > he's drinking a lot more.

> >
> > And people here joke me for never getting remarried?

> Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.
>
> I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
> got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.


At 21 I was too young to know what I really wanted, so we divorced
four years later. By 31, I had it nailed down and we're still married.

Nothing wrong with a "starter" marriage. I learned "what not to do"
during mine.

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On 2020-12-31 6:07 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 9:51:10 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>> Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
>>>> suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
>>>> he's drinking a lot more.
>>>
>>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?

>> Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.
>>
>> I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
>> got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.

>
> At 21 I was too young to know what I really wanted, so we divorced
> four years later. By 31, I had it nailed down and we're still married.


I was just a kid of 22 when we got married. Miraculously, we are still
married.


> Nothing wrong with a "starter" marriage. I learned "what not to do"
> during mine.



I don't know. If you marry someone who is divorced you are taking a
chance with someone who could not make a relationship work or one who
was able to walk away from a commitment.

My son was a little concerned about marriage prospects when he landed a
position back in this area at the age of 35. He wondered about his
chances of finding a woman who was not divorced, a crack head, a
religious nut or combination of those. He lucked out. He is engaged to
a university professor who looks like a super model.



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On 12/31/2020 10:36 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

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>
> I don't know. If you marry someone who is divorced you are taking a
> chance with someone who could not make a relationship work or one who
> was able to walk away from a commitment.
>
> My son was a little concerned about marriage prospects when he landed a
> position back in this area at the age of 35. He wondered about his
> chances of finding a woman who was not divorced, a crack head, a
> religious nut or combination of those.Â* He lucked out. He is engaged to
> a university professor who looks like a super model.


Some relationships should not be made to work once they go bad. Better
to cut your loss and move on. Perhaps as you say, walk away from
commitment but they may also be walking away from a nut job. They start
out OK but one person changes. If there is abuse (physical, mental,
financial) of some sort it may be best to end, not try to make it work.

If you marry someone divorced you don't always know which one you got,
the good one or the nut job. Maybe best to meet the ex so you can
figure it out.

I also know people that are in long term happy marriages and while I
really like them as friends, no way would I want to be married to them.

Your son may have lucked out but you won't really know for another 5 or
10 years. Good marriages take more than education and good looks. Hope
it works for them.
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cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> cshenk wrote:
>> > Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
>> > suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
>> > he's drinking a lot more.

>>
>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?

>
> Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.
>
> I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
> got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.


i was close a few times but just not ready the first time
and she wasn't ready the 2nd, which in hindsight is a good
thing because we were not a good fit anyways.

as i get older it gets harder to see if it will ever work
out with anyone else now. i'm not worried though at being
happy alone. some people can't live alone and have to always
be busy and have noise and drama. ugh! just let me have
some quiet time and gardens and i'm good.


songbird

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I would be like you if ever I lost my lovely husband) In face, no one
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:34:44 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-31 6:07 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 9:51:10 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>
> >>> cshenk wrote:
> >>>> Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
> >>>> suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
> >>>> he's drinking a lot more.
> >>>
> >>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?
> >> Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.
> >>
> >> I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
> >> got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.

> >
> > At 21 I was too young to know what I really wanted, so we divorced
> > four years later. By 31, I had it nailed down and we're still married.

> I was just a kid of 22 when we got married. Miraculously, we are still
> married.


Some good luck, and well-managed expectations, I think.

> > Nothing wrong with a "starter" marriage. I learned "what not to do"
> > during mine.

> I don't know. If you marry someone who is divorced you are taking a
> chance with someone who could not make a relationship work or one who
> was able to walk away from a commitment.


Same thing with anyone who's had a prior serious relationship.

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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 11:14:41 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:34:44 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-12-31 6:07 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 9:51:10 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > >> Gary wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> cshenk wrote:
> > >>>> Yes, Sheldon's rants are getting prolific. Wife is out of town,
> > >>>> suspect she controls his drinking and with her gone for a few days,
> > >>>> he's drinking a lot more.
> > >>>
> > >>> And people here joke me for never getting remarried?
> > >> Smile, some of us get lucky the first time.
> > >>
> > >> I waited for just the right one I wanted to spend my *life* with and
> > >> got that. Sorry it didn't work for you.
> > >
> > > At 21 I was too young to know what I really wanted, so we divorced
> > > four years later. By 31, I had it nailed down and we're still married.

> > I was just a kid of 22 when we got married. Miraculously, we are still
> > married.

> Some good luck, and well-managed expectations, I think.
> > > Nothing wrong with a "starter" marriage. I learned "what not to do"
> > > during mine.

> > I don't know. If you marry someone who is divorced you are taking a
> > chance with someone who could not make a relationship work or one who
> > was able to walk away from a commitment.

> Same thing with anyone who's had a prior serious relationship.
>

I feel that my first serious relationship was all but legally married. I was very
truthful with #3 about my relationships with numbers 1 and 2. I gave #3, whom
I have now been married to for 34 years, all of information to make an informed
choice about getting into a relationship with me. It helped that I wasn't wildly
physically attracted to her like I was #s 1 and 2. She was rail thin, not anorectic
looking, but close. She was living with two other women in an apartment next
to the college she attended for free, because her father was a professor, but she
spent the little money she had as much on books as food. Once we got together,
I was buying food, and she filled out nicely.

She knew that I was a *two time loser* (I say that jokingly), but got my honest
perspective on my past. I also warned her (after the first night we shared a bed,
that I was sex obsessed, and if she wasn't OK with that, we should part ways
before things went further. She had none of my sexual obsession, but just liked
sex, and hadn't ever gotten enough, so she was fine with that. We found a middle
ground.

I self medicated for that condition with a lot of alcohol, which caused other
problems, but really was necessary to maintain any level of marital fidelity. Over
the decades I've ramped down my alcohol use. I still drink more than is ideal,
and I need to accelerate that reduction, as we're in a very good place right now
in almost every way. Because things are so good, I need to get more serious
about dealing with my alcohol use disorder, and it's a hard habit to break. I feel
more neurologically dependent than psychologically dependent. I might always
need a nightcap, but it's time to try to ramp down more quickly. Heck, I'm 60 now.

I swore off 80 proof liquor more than 21 years ago, and never backslid, not even
once. Today is exactly 21 years since I smoked my last cigarette on New Year's
Eve of 1999. I'm not committing to anything specific tonight, but just to in
general getting my shit together. Heck, we're starting off the year with a good
dishwasher.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


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>I feel that my first serious relationship was all but legally married. I was very
>truthful with #3 about my relationships with numbers 1 and 2. I gave #3, whom
>I have now been married to for 34 years, all of information to make an informed
>choice about getting into a relationship with me. It helped that I wasn't wildly
>physically attracted to her like I was #s 1 and 2. She was rail thin, not anorectic
>looking, but close. She was living with two other women in an apartment next
>to the college she attended for free, because her father was a professor, but she
>spent the little money she had as much on books as food. Once we got together,
>I was buying food, and she filled out nicely.
>
>She knew that I was a *two time loser* (I say that jokingly), but got my honest
>perspective on my past. I also warned her (after the first night we shared a bed,
>that I was sex obsessed, and if she wasn't OK with that, we should part ways
>before things went further. She had none of my sexual obsession, but just liked
>sex, and hadn't ever gotten enough, so she was fine with that. We found a middle
>ground.
>
>I self medicated for that condition with a lot of alcohol, which caused other
>problems, but really was necessary to maintain any level of marital fidelity. Over
>the decades I've ramped down my alcohol use. I still drink more than is ideal,
>and I need to accelerate that reduction, as we're in a very good place right now
>in almost every way. Because things are so good, I need to get more serious
>about dealing with my alcohol use disorder, and it's a hard habit to break. I feel
>more neurologically dependent than psychologically dependent. I might always
>need a nightcap, but it's time to try to ramp down more quickly. Heck, I'm 60 now.
>
>I swore off 80 proof liquor more than 21 years ago, and never backslid, not even
>once. Today is exactly 21 years since I smoked my last cigarette on New Year's
>Eve of 1999. I'm not committing to anything specific tonight, but just to in
>general getting my shit together. Heck, we're starting off the year with a good
>dishwasher.


I especially like the last sentence.
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 7:02:39 PM UTC-6, wrote:
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> I swore off 80 proof liquor more than 21 years ago, and never backslid, not even
> once. Today is exactly 21 years since I smoked my last cigarette on New Year's
> Eve of 1999.

....

You still chewing Nicorette, or you off nicotine finally?

Try going vegetarian! I lost a few lbs going vegetarian, and I still have enough energy to Nordictrack an hour a day (20+20+20mins)


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On 12/31/2020 8:08 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:02:34 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons


>>
>> I swore off 80 proof liquor more than 21 years ago, and never backslid, not even
>> once. Today is exactly 21 years since I smoked my last cigarette on New Year's
>> Eve of 1999. I'm not committing to anything specific tonight, but just to in
>> general getting my shit together. Heck, we're starting off the year with a good
>> dishwasher.

>
> I especially like the last sentence.
>


If you find a good dishwasher, marry her!
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Ophelia wrote:
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> I would be like you if ever I lost my lovely husband) In face, no one
> else could replace him!


i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

the holidays are a tough time for some relationships, if you've
been going out for a few years then it becomes expected you will
propose before or during the holidays. ugh! and of course
getting dumpt after the holidays is common too. i know a few
people that got dumped this season.


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> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 7:02:39 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> ...
>> I swore off 80 proof liquor more than 21 years ago, and never backslid, not even
>> once. Today is exactly 21 years since I smoked my last cigarette on New Year's
>> Eve of 1999.

> ...
>
> You still chewing Nicorette, or you off nicotine finally?
>
> Try going vegetarian! I lost a few lbs going vegetarian, and I still have enough energy to Nordictrack an hour a day (20+20+20mins)
>
>
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On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
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> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.


Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
result!
Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:14:16 -0800, Leo >
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>On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
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>
>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>
>Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>result!
>Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".


I don't think that would be bad. I'd only withhold the right to vote.
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Ophelia wrote:
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> I would be like you if ever I lost my lovely husband) In face, no one
> else could replace him!


i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

the holidays are a tough time for some relationships, if you've
been going out for a few years then it becomes expected you will
propose before or during the holidays. ugh! and of course
getting dumpt after the holidays is common too. i know a few
people that got dumped this season.


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On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
(in article >):

> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.


Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
result!
Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".

leo

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:14:16 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>
>Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>result!
>Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".


I don't think that would be bad. I'd only withhold the right to vote.

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In article al.Net>,
says...
>
> On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
> > things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
> > pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
> > to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
> > happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
> > someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
> > to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
> > since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
> > go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
> > what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
> > me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>
> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
> been married once but believed she was barren. I?m the glorious
> result!
> Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".


One of the happiest couples I ever knew, were married later in life.
Such lovely people. He had been briefly married before (very unhappily)
and separated; she had never had anybody until they met and married
around age 50. So no children for either of them, but he was a famous
and inspirational school teacher in UK and she taught at his school. She
told me once "We never had any babies, but we've had hundreds of
children". They absolutely adored each other for about 30 years until he
died.

Janet UK

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On 1/1/2021 1:14 AM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>
> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
> been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
> result!
> Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".
>
> leo
>
>

Cannot imagine having babies at that age. We were on grandkids already
at 45.
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:14:16 -0800, Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>
> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
> been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
> result!


You mean you were not expected?
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On 2021-01-01 10:04 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time.
>> Mom had
>> been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>> result!
>> Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".
>>
>> leo
>>
>>

> Cannot imagine having babies at that age.Â* We were on grandkids already
> at 45.


My wife is 8 years younger than her sister and 11 years younger than her
brother. Her father was 48 when she was born. Maybe her parents thought
that he was shooting blanks.

I used to work with a guy who split up with his wife when their
daughters were about high school age. I transferred out of that branch
but had to go back once in a while for vehicle repairs and always made a
point of chatting with Joe. He met up with a much younger woman and got
married. I was there with my partner one day and Joe told us that his
wife had just had a baby. Him asked him how old he was and Joe said 55.
Jim asked "Are you ****ing nuts?"




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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:04:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/1/2021 1:14 AM, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>>
>> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>> been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>> result!
>> Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".
>>
>> leo
>>
>>

>Cannot imagine having babies at that age. We were on grandkids already
>at 45.


Children having babies.
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 Leo wrote:
>On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote:
>
>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>
>Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>result!
>Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".
>
>leo


All this time I thought Song Bird was a gal, I wouldn't have thought
males would choose that handle.
It's not easy for men to find male friends, most attempts will be
failures simply because males of all ages are very competitive, comes
from playing sports with the strong desire to win, at least that's
been my experience and I've never played or been interested in sports.
In the relationships I've had with men they had to be the one to know
everything even when they actually knew nothing on the topic... they'd
wait for me to teach them and then take it as their own... has
occurred on this newsgroup many times. I've always had good luck with
finding female friends... in fact most times females find me. However
being happily married I don't accept friendships with women simply
because women are far more likely to cheat then are men, simply
because they much more easily can, and are really not interested in
non-sexual relationships... any man tells me he has female friends and
they go on dates here there and everywhere and they are only just
friends I call a liar. After being happily married for 33 years I'm
not about to risk my marriage by going on a date with a woman. This
is my fourth marriage and I've never cheated on any of them, my first
three cheated several times and even eventually admitted it and had
the craziest alibis. All three admitted that their boss came on to
them and they couldn't resist because they didn't want to lose their
job... a very common reason why married working women cheat, it's
really about money and not being sexually satisfied by their husbands
or so they think... deep down most women are whores. When single
between wives I slept with many married women or I should say they
chose to sleep with me. Very few women go on a first date with a man
and choose to go home and sleep alone, and never after the second date
or psychologically that makes them feel deepy unattractive,
undesireable, and rejected. Most women place sex as their primary
value to men, and sadly most women are lousy in the sack, it's like
they all went to Cathelic school and all sexual pleasure is a mortal
sin, they take that belief to their grave.
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:18:14 +1100, Master Bruce
> wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:14:16 -0800, Leo >
>wrote:
>
>>On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
>>(in article >):
>>
>>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.

>>
>>Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>>been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>>result!
>>Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".


Both were obviously liars... do you really believe that that dad was a
virgin when they married? Mom was obviously a very experienced Ho.
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>On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:18:14 +1100, Master Bruce
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:14:16 -0800, Leo >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 2020 Dec 31, , songbird wrote
>>>(in article >):
>>>
>>>> i feel lucky and happy with what i went through and how i did
>>>> things. i never cheated on anyone and i never got anyone
>>>> pregnant. when my last relationship broke up i took a few years
>>>> to just get back to normal and then i figured out that i was
>>>> happier and didn't want the drama of dating. i did try to find
>>>> someone else, but people wanted to talk, but not to do things or
>>>> to go on actual dates. i wanted to get out and do some things
>>>> since most of my time i am here at home so to have a buddy to
>>>> go find some new places to explore and to eat at and such was
>>>> what i was hoping for. but it was just a bit too much drama for
>>>> me so that was it and i've not really looked at all since then.
>>>
>>>Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>>>been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>>>result!
>>>Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".

>
>Both were obviously liars... do you really believe that that dad was a
>virgin when they married?


He didn't say that.

>Mom was obviously a very experienced Ho.


Uncalled for.
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Leo wrote:
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> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
> been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
> result!
> Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".


i'm highly unlikely to date a fertile woman. as i get older
the thought actually terrifies me. as i definitely do not
want children, ever.

i suppose if somehow i were to happen to find someone young
enough i'd probably use that as a reason to get snipped.


songbird


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> all that matters .. to me anyway))


yes. we'll see what happens is my attitude about such things.


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On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 10:42:20 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
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> My wife is 8 years younger than her sister and 11 years younger than her
> brother. Her father was 48 when she was born. Maybe her parents thought
> that he was shooting blanks.
>

My mom was within two weeks of being 39 when I was born and my dad was
within two weeks of being 49. My oldest brother was 19 years and 7 months
old when I was born, second brother was 15 when I popped out. Other brothers
were 4 and 5 years old when I made my appearance.
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>Leo wrote:
>...
>> Dad was forty five when he got married for the first and only time. Mom had
>> been married once but believed she was barren. I´m the glorious
>> result!
>> Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with a "me".

>
> i'm highly unlikely to date a fertile woman. as i get older
>the thought actually terrifies me. as i definitely do not
>want children, ever.
>
> i suppose if somehow i were to happen to find someone young
>enough i'd probably use that as a reason to get snipped.


You never know. You could always hear a knock on the door and a really
low voice saying "Dad?"
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> You never know. You could always hear a knock on the door and a really
> low voice saying "Dad?"


heh, no, i've never been much to play around to begin
with and those i've been serious with the most have
either been surgically sterile or on BC and i'd know
if they'd lied. let's just say i've seen too many
young kids pregnant and i sure didn't want any part of
that.


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