Ophelia wrote:
....
> I am not sure where our water comes from but it tastes better then we
> lived near the big city
>
> We are in a tiny village and it is good stuff

the best water i've had in my life was from the place i
rented in eastern TN, it was so clean you could run the
shower and let it air dry and there wouldn't be any
marks on the wall. here if i let things air dry there
are spots from the calcium/iron. after many uses the
glass will start to look yellow from the iron. a bit
of chemicals removes that and then they look ok again
for a while.

the next best water i had was up north where the local
municipality sourced their water from an old abandoned
copper mine. after some years they switched over to
wells sited in a rather rotten place and the water was
much worse. progress... heh, nope, not that time...


songbird

On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 7:24:19 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>
>> On 12/31/2020 8:11 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> I see video tours of brand spanking new houses and half have the two-handle
>>> faucets in all the bathrooms and the other half have the single-handle version.
>>>
>> I see that on episodes of House Hunters in bathrooms with the *trendy*
>> pedestal sinks. I like the asthetics of a pedestal sink but the (mostly
>> really young buyers) don't take storage into account. No place to stash
>> extra towels or TP.
>>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you!! They've gained no more square footage to
> that bathroom or powder room. They've lost valuable storage space as you
> mentioned. Also, countertop real estate as well.
>
Style over substance. Just as those silly bowl sinks were all the rage.
Looked nifty but not at all practical.

On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 7:24:19 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>
>> On 12/31/2020 8:11 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> I see video tours of brand spanking new houses and half have the two-handle
>>> faucets in all the bathrooms and the other half have the single-handle version.
>>>
>> I see that on episodes of House Hunters in bathrooms with the *trendy*
>> pedestal sinks. I like the asthetics of a pedestal sink but the (mostly
>> really young buyers) don't take storage into account. No place to stash
>> extra towels or TP.
>>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you!! They've gained no more square footage to
> that bathroom or powder room. They've lost valuable storage space as you
> mentioned. Also, countertop real estate as well.
>
I'm waiting for people without the ability to use a search engine to ask
what a "powder room" is. I'll save them the trouble. It's a room
with a toilet, a sink and a mirror. No shower, no bathtub. Some of
those pedestal sinks, pretty though they might be, don't appear to have
much room for a bar of soap or a soap dispenser.

Jill

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:36:40 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, thank you, thank you!! They've gained no more square footage to
> > that bathroom or powder room. They've lost valuable storage space as you
> > mentioned. Also, countertop real estate as well.
> >
> Style over substance. Just as those silly bowl sinks were all the rage.
> Looked nifty but not at all practical.
>
I am NOT fan of those vessel sinks. Beautiful to look at but I'm like a splashing
duck in puddle when I use the bathroom sink. I need and want a one-piece
countertop with intergrated sink so I can scrape that water right back into it.

On 2021-01-01 5:36 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
>
>> Thank you, thank you, thank you!!Â* They've gained no more square
>> footage to
>> that bathroom or powder room.Â* They've lost valuable storage space as you
>> mentioned.Â* Also, countertop real estate as well.
>>
> Style over substance.Â* Just as those silly bowl sinks were all the rage.
> Â*Looked nifty but not at all practical.


When my brother and his wife spent way too much remodelling their
bathroom she insisted on a rectangular sink with a flat bottom. It
looks nice. I was helping him with a dirty job and washed up in that
sink. All the dirt and grime came off and sat there. It took way too
much effort and water to get it to go down the drain.

On 1/1/2021 5:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 7:24:19 AM UTC-6,
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2020 8:11 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see video tours of brand spanking new houses and half have the
>>>> two-handle
>>>> faucets in all the bathrooms and the other half have the
>>>> single-handle version.
>>>>
>>> I see that on episodes of House Hunters in bathrooms with the *trendy*
>>> pedestal sinks. I like the asthetics of a pedestal sink but the (mostly
>>> really young buyers) don't take storage into account. No place to stash
>>> extra towels or TP.
>>>
>> Thank you, thank you, thank you!!Â* They've gained no more square
>> footage to
>> that bathroom or powder room.Â* They've lost valuable storage space as you
>> mentioned.Â* Also, countertop real estate as well.
>>
> Style over substance.Â* Just as those silly bowl sinks were all the rage.
> Â*Looked nifty but not at all practical.

I love to watch House Hunters and shows of that ilk because most of the
buyers on the show don't seem to take "practical" into consideration. I
still see those bowl type sinks. While they're oohing and ahhing over
how trendy the bathroom looks I'm thinking what a PITA to clean
underneath and around them.

I did see a "new" episode of House Hunters in the last month where the
husband was the one doing the oohing and aahing over a grand entryway in
a 2 story house with soaring ceilings, a light fixture suspended from
20-something feet up and huge windows above the door that reached up to
the second floor. (They hadn't seen the rest of the house yet.) I'm
paraphrasing the wife's response which was pretty much "Who's going to
get up there and change that light bulb when it burns out? Who's going
to wash those windows?" His response: "Oh, I didn't think about that."
That's one of the things that makes those shows entertaining.

Jill

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:56:28 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>
> I'm waiting for people without the ability to use a search engine to ask
> what a "powder room" is. I'll save them the trouble. It's a room
> with a toilet, a sink and a mirror. No shower, no bathtub. Some of
> those pedestal sinks, pretty though they might be, don't appear to have
> much room for a bar of soap or a soap dispenser.
>
> Jill
>
I went to my niece's brand spanking new house for Thanksgiving. Her powder
room had a large 4-legged sink with a shelf underneath. The shelf had a large
basket overflowing with toilet paper. It was very nice, but even though that
sink was oversized, it still would not have been my choice. Just give me a
vanity cabinet with doors so I can store TP and cleaning products out of
sight.

She had a beautiful oval silver mirror just like this hanging in the powder
room. I did not ask how she plans on cleaning the glass as I was afraid
she'd ask me to do it. )

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Pp49tk/Silver-Mirror.jpg

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:15:48 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-01-01 5:36 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, thank you, thank you!!Â* They've gained no more square
>>> footage to
>>> that bathroom or powder room.Â* They've lost valuable storage space as you
>>> mentioned.Â* Also, countertop real estate as well.
>>>
>> Style over substance.Â* Just as those silly bowl sinks were all the rage.
>> Â*Looked nifty but not at all practical.
>
>
>When my brother and his wife spent way too much remodelling their
>bathroom

The things you bitch about are limitless.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:21:22 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>I did see a "new" episode of House Hunters in the last month where the
>husband was the one doing the oohing and aahing over a grand entryway in
>a 2 story house with soaring ceilings, a light fixture suspended from
>20-something feet up and huge windows above the door that reached up to
>the second floor. (They hadn't seen the rest of the house yet.) I'm
>paraphrasing the wife's response which was pretty much "Who's going to
>get up there and change that light bulb when it burns out?

One thing's for su not the wife.

On 1/1/2021 6:22 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:56:28 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>
>> I'm waiting for people without the ability to use a search engine to ask
>> what a "powder room" is. I'll save them the trouble. It's a room
>> with a toilet, a sink and a mirror. No shower, no bathtub. Some of
>> those pedestal sinks, pretty though they might be, don't appear to have
>> much room for a bar of soap or a soap dispenser.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I went to my niece's brand spanking new house for Thanksgiving. Her powder
> room had a large 4-legged sink with a shelf underneath. The shelf had a large
> basket overflowing with toilet paper. It was very nice, but even though that
> sink was oversized, it still would not have been my choice. Just give me a
> vanity cabinet with doors so I can store TP and cleaning products out of
> sight.
>
> She had a beautiful oval silver mirror just like this hanging in the powder
> room. I did not ask how she plans on cleaning the glass as I was afraid
> she'd ask me to do it. )
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/W3Pp49tk/Silver-Mirror.jpg
>

I'd take it outside and pressure wash it when I do the driveway.

On 1/1/2021 6:22 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:56:28 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>
>> I'm waiting for people without the ability to use a search engine to ask
>> what a "powder room" is. I'll save them the trouble. It's a room
>> with a toilet, a sink and a mirror. No shower, no bathtub. Some of
>> those pedestal sinks, pretty though they might be, don't appear to have
>> much room for a bar of soap or a soap dispenser.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I went to my niece's brand spanking new house for Thanksgiving. Her powder
> room had a large 4-legged sink with a shelf underneath. The shelf had a large
> basket overflowing with toilet paper. It was very nice, but even though that
> sink was oversized, it still would not have been my choice. Just give me a
> vanity cabinet with doors so I can store TP and cleaning products out of
> sight.
>
I almost mentioned baskets! I, too, prefer a bathroom vanity cabinet
where I can store those things out of sight. Don't want to have to
schlep them in from being stored another part of the house, either.

> She had a beautiful oval silver mirror just like this hanging in the powder
> room. I did not ask how she plans on cleaning the glass as I was afraid
> she'd ask me to do it. )
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/W3Pp49tk/Silver-Mirror.jpg
>
That's one heck of a mirror!

Jill

On 1/1/2021 9:09 AM, Gary wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>> I find it varies through the seasons, presumably due to the varying
>> run-off. When I go on cycle rides I have often had to buy a drink during
>> the ride beacuse although it tastes fine from the tap, the chlorine taste
>> seems to intensify in the bottles.
>
> Just fill your water bottle with chlorinated tap water the night before
> and leave the cap off. It evaporates out overnight. Or you could boil
> tap water to get rid of the chlorine very quickly. Then cap it and cool it.
>
Have you ever tasted boiled tap water? There's something just not right
about it.

Jill

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 5:28:46 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 1/1/2021 6:22 PM, wrote:
> >
> > I went to my niece's brand spanking new house for Thanksgiving. Her powder
> > room had a large 4-legged sink with a shelf underneath. The shelf had a large
> > basket overflowing with toilet paper. It was very nice, but even though that
> > sink was oversized, it still would not have been my choice. Just give me a
> > vanity cabinet with doors so I can store TP and cleaning products out of
> > sight.
> >
> > She had a beautiful oval silver mirror just like this hanging in the powder
> > room. I did not ask how she plans on cleaning the glass as I was afraid
> > she'd ask me to do it. )
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/W3Pp49tk/Silver-Mirror.jpg
> >
> I'd take it outside and pressure wash it when I do the driveway.
>
Good idea! But I'm sure that would be my last, forever, invitation to her house.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 09:09:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Graham wrote:
>> I find it varies through the seasons, presumably due to the varying
>> run-off. When I go on cycle rides I have often had to buy a drink during
>> the ride beacuse although it tastes fine from the tap, the chlorine taste
>> seems to intensify in the bottles.
>
>Just fill your water bottle with chlorinated tap water the night before
>and leave the cap off. It evaporates out overnight. Or you could boil
>tap water to get rid of the chlorine very quickly. Then cap it and cool it.

Or install a reverse osmosis filter, and enjoy the purest water
possible... costs maybe $150 for top of the line, and water costs a
nickle a gallon. But most are too cheap and stupid so rather buy
pricy bottled water that comes from a rubber hose in some strange
garage... only imbeciles buy and drink pricy bottled water because it
has a shiney label but pollutes all waterways with plastic bottles.
We use plastic bottles that we refill with RO water, the Camelback
bottles we use are good for a lifetime.

jmcquown wrote:
....
> Have you ever tasted boiled tap water? There's something just not right
> about it.

flat, lack of oxygen.


songbird

On 1/1/2021 6:35 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 5:28:46 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 1/1/2021 6:22 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> I went to my niece's brand spanking new house for Thanksgiving. Her powder
>>> room had a large 4-legged sink with a shelf underneath. The shelf had a large
>>> basket overflowing with toilet paper. It was very nice, but even though that
>>> sink was oversized, it still would not have been my choice. Just give me a
>>> vanity cabinet with doors so I can store TP and cleaning products out of
>>> sight.
>>>
>>> She had a beautiful oval silver mirror just like this hanging in the powder
>>> room. I did not ask how she plans on cleaning the glass as I was afraid
>>> she'd ask me to do it. )
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/W3Pp49tk/Silver-Mirror.jpg
>>>
>> I'd take it outside and pressure wash it when I do the driveway.
>>
> Good idea! But I'm sure that would be my last, forever, invitation to her house.
>
LOL I'm glad you had a good time and I wouldn't worry about it. One of
these days she's likely to get tired of dusting that mirror.

Jill

"songbird" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
....
> I am not sure where our water comes from but it tastes better then we
> lived near the big city
>
> We are in a tiny village and it is good stuff

the best water i've had in my life was from the place i
rented in eastern TN, it was so clean you could run the
shower and let it air dry and there wouldn't be any
marks on the wall. here if i let things air dry there
are spots from the calcium/iron. after many uses the
glass will start to look yellow from the iron. a bit
of chemicals removes that and then they look ok again
for a while.

Oh dear ... I would hate that, but I suppose you make the best of what
you have!

the next best water i had was up north where the local
municipality sourced their water from an old abandoned
copper mine. after some years they switched over to
wells sited in a rather rotten place and the water was
much worse. progress... heh, nope, not that time...


Oh dear

songbird

On 1/1/2021 5:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/1/2021 5:12 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 7:24:19 AM UTC-6,
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2020 8:11 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see video tours of brand spanking new houses and half have the
>>>> two-handle
>>>> faucets in all the bathrooms and the other half have the
>>>> single-handle version.
>>>>
>>> I see that on episodes of House Hunters in bathrooms with the *trendy*
>>> pedestal sinks. I like the asthetics of a pedestal sink but the (mostly
>>> really young buyers) don't take storage into account. No place to stash
>>> extra towels or TP.
>>>
>> Thank you, thank you, thank you!! They've gained no more square
>> footage to
>> that bathroom or powder room. They've lost valuable storage space as you
>> mentioned. Also, countertop real estate as well.
>>
> Style over substance. Just as those silly bowl sinks were all the rage.
> Looked nifty but not at all practical.

I still have the old sink attached to the wall setup. They've offered to
upgrade it to a single sink vaniety but I turned it down. I liked the
open floor space, used for ferret litter papers in the corner.

I do have a small closet in the bathroom for plenty of storage. TP on
the top shelf, then other shelves for anything else for the bathroom or
cleaning supplies.

The closet floor was for the cat litter box and an empty 5-gallon bucket
that I keep for many uses.

jmcquown wrote:
> I did see a "new" episode of House Hunters in the last month where the
> husband was the one doing the oohing and aahing over a grand entryway in
> a 2 story house with soaring ceilings, a light fixture suspended from
> 20-something feet up and huge windows above the door that reached up to
> the second floor. (They hadn't seen the rest of the house yet.) I'm
> paraphrasing the wife's response which was pretty much "Who's going to
> get up there and change that light bulb when it burns out? Who's going
> to wash those windows?" His response: "Oh, I didn't think about that."
> That's one of the things that makes those shows entertaining.

I was often asked to replace the high light bulbs while painting a
house. Never asked to wash a high window though. Those people hire
window washers occasionally.

You have a high window, Jill. Who cleans that?

On 1/1/2021 7:17 PM, songbird wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> ...
>> Have you ever tasted boiled tap water? There's something just not right
>> about it.
>
> flat, lack of oxygen.

And if that is the problem, easy to aerate again.
I've never boiled water to remove chlorine. I've just filled something
up and let it sit unopened overnight.

Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > I did see a "new" episode of House Hunters in the last month where the
> > husband was the one doing the oohing and aahing over a grand entryway in
> > a 2 story house with soaring ceilings, a light fixture suspended from
> > 20-something feet up and huge windows above the door that reached up to
> > the second floor. (They hadn't seen the rest of the house yet.) I'm
> > paraphrasing the wife's response which was pretty much "Who's going to
> > get up there and change that light bulb when it burns out? Who's going
> > to wash those windows?" His response: "Oh, I didn't think about that."
> > That's one of the things that makes those shows entertaining.
> I was often asked to replace the high light bulbs while painting a
> house. Never asked to wash a high window though. Those people hire
> window washers occasionally.
>
> You have a high window, Jill. Who cleans that?


Her married "SO", Gary...

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 09:10:26 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> I did see a "new" episode of House Hunters in the last month where the
>> husband was the one doing the oohing and aahing over a grand entryway in
>> a 2 story house with soaring ceilings, a light fixture suspended from
>> 20-something feet up and huge windows above the door that reached up to
>> the second floor. (They hadn't seen the rest of the house yet.) I'm
>> paraphrasing the wife's response which was pretty much "Who's going to
>> get up there and change that light bulb when it burns out? Who's going
>> to wash those windows?" His response: "Oh, I didn't think about that."
>> That's one of the things that makes those shows entertaining.
>
>I was often asked to replace the high light bulbs while painting a
>house. Never asked to wash a high window though. Those people hire
>window washers occasionally.
>
>You have a high window, Jill. Who cleans that?

Lights that burn out especially those that require me climbing a
ladder I replace with LEDs, they can last longer than me. Even the
outside lighting is now all LED, and the two nice brass lighting
fixtures on both side of our front door are now LED bulbs that come on
at dusk and go off at dawn, there are individual bulbs like that. Each
time an incandescent bulb burns out I replace it with an LED. All the
LED lighting we now have has cut our electric bill by more than half
and we have five times as much light... outside LED lights can light
up a ball field but use 10 times less Wattage than incandecents. LED
light bulbs cost about 10% more than incandescents but last 15 years.
I installed an LED fixture over our bathroom mirror because that's the
one my wife uses the most and never remembers to turn it off, has ten
LED lamps but uses only 10 Watts total, the old ugly one had six
inandescents, 60 Watts each, now I'm no longer bothered when I get up
at 2AM and that lamp is on. I switched all our night lights to LED, 6
of them, were 8 Watts each... those tiny incandescent bulbs are about
79¢ each and rarely last more than 4-5 months, now .5 Watt each, give
more light and have a 15 year life. Outdoor LED lighting is
wonderful, far more light at far lower
wattage... flood/spot light incandescents were double 100 watt bulbs,
now a single 15 watt LED, brighter light and lasts 10 times longer. We
had our electrician install the fixtures because he said that with
LEDs polarity matters.

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 09:10:44 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>On 1/1/2021 7:17 PM, songbird wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> ...
>>> Have you ever tasted boiled tap water? There's something just not right
>>> about it.
>>
>> flat, lack of oxygen.
>
>And if that is the problem, easy to aerate again.
>I've never boiled water to remove chlorine. I've just filled something
>up and let it sit unopened overnight.

Our water contains no chlorine, we have our own well and our drinking
water is Reverse Osmosis filtered, purest water possible at 5¢ a
gallon. Truth is that the bottled water one buys is the filthiest
sludge, comes from some gas station rubber hose, they put it in a
plastic bottle with a fancy label and charge like it's the best water
on planet earth, NOT. And then there are billions of polluting
plastic bottles. It's very easy to install an RO filter in ones home
and costs very little to buy at Lowes. We each have two refillable
plastic bottles that we use over and over... we contribute zero to
plastic bottle pollution. And it's as stupid as stupid gets to be
drinking chlorinated water, especially for ones children. Anyone who
has a bottle of chlorine laundry bleach at home is the worst kind of
pinheaded imbecile... should be illegal to sell laundry bleach...
would yoose gals bleach your vaginas? I for one greatly appreciates
that a vagina smells and tastes like a healthy woman. I wouldn't ****
any woman who's pussy smells like Clorox