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Fresh from pot to stove!

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On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 9:39:15 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
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Nice.

I think it'll be vegetable soup, a bit of cheese, and a slice of bread for me.

After I shoveled some heavy, wet snow off the driveway, we had a spirited
argument about whether I'm risking a heart attack and whether the rest of
the snow would melt away (36 F and cloudy today although it's pretty bright
out; 33 and partly sunny tomorrow). I was on the "it will melt" side, and he's
out there with the snowblower finishing the job.

I figure if I get some of the asphalt cleared, thermodynamics will take us
the rest of the way if the temperature is anywhere near freezing.

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Lovely...!!!

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Is that all for you? Whatta piggie!


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>On 1/3/2021 9:39 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> Fresh from pot to stove!
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>> https://i.postimg.cc/s2PjfBx5/IMG-2703.jpg
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She's giving half of that to a bum in the street. That's how Lucretia
rolls.


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Gary wrote:

> On 1/3/2021 9:39 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
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> Is that all for you? Whatta piggie!


Could be a case of have to cook them quickly.

Like local crabbing Gary, you can't keep them in a cooler very long so
if she had good luck with the pots, might cook them all up then freeze
excess.

For others who may be curious:
<https://mrc.virginia.gov/Regulations/VA-recreational-crabbing-rules.shtm>

Technically some types are open now but for the most part, we are off
crabbing season.

Folks are pretty good about the limits so we have lots of the local
smaller blue crabs.
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> Folks are pretty good about the limits so we have lots of the local
> smaller blue crabs.


Out West, my preferred crab is fresh Dungeness. They´re best bought in
months with an R in it. One crab feeds one person. They´re sold whole, so
cleaning, cracking and picking them apart is an adventure best done with a
bib.


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>On 2021 Jan 3, , cshenk wrote
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>> Folks are pretty good about the limits so we have lots of the local
>> smaller blue crabs.

>
>Out West, my preferred crab is fresh Dungeness. They´re best bought in
>months with an R in it. One crab feeds one person. They´re sold whole, so
>cleaning, cracking and picking them apart is an adventure best done with a
>bib.
>

I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
(we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
worth eating.
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On 1/4/2021 7:32 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
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> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
> worth eating.


Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.



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On 1/4/2021 10:06 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 1/4/2021 7:32 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>

>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>> spend that much on a single meal ** To me, they are the only crabs
>> worth eating.

>
> Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.
>
>
>

We were warned against them in high school and told how to avoid them.


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On 2021-01-04 10:42 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/4/2021 10:06 AM, Gary wrote:
>> On 1/4/2021 7:32 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>
>>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>>> spend that much on a single meal ** To me, they are the only crabs
>>> worth eating.

>>
>> Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.
>>
>>
>>

> We were warned against them in high school and told how to avoid them.


Blue Ointment
For the crabs disappointment.
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>On 1/4/2021 7:32 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>

>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>> worth eating.

>
>Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.
>
>

I have, I would rate them good, just not as good as Dungeness, mostly
because there is so much to eat in them.
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
>On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>

>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>> worth eating.

>
>Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.


ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.
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>On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
>>On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>
>>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>>> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>>> worth eating.

>>
>>Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.

>
>ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
>ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.


You may not eat it, but you talk it a lot.
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>On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
>>On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>
>>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>>> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>>> worth eating.

>>
>>Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.

>
>ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
>ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.


every animal that grazes eats poop. Every animal they graze with
poops on the ground and the rest of the animals eat the grass around
and on top of the poop.
Coprophagia
Coprophagia occurs when feces is consumed. The mere thought of this
type of behavior is rather unsettling to most people, but some
animals, such as rabbits, actually eat their own feces for a very good
reason.
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> Coprophagia occurs when feces is consumed. The mere thought of this
> type of behavior is rather unsettling to most people, but some
> animals, such as rabbits, actually eat their own feces for a very good
> reason.



There is a poster or so here who "consumes feces", lol...

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On 1/4/2021 10:06 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 1/4/2021 7:32 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>

>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>> spend that much on a single meal ** To me, they are the only crabs
>> worth eating.

>
> Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.
>

What would you recommend? Dungeness is excellent, albeit nearly
impossible to find for sale where I live now and definitely not fresh. I
wouldn't have ordered online express delivery, either. It could well
have been a disappointment.

I occasionally see Dungeness pre-cooked (from frozen) in the grocery
store seafood case. I glanced at them once. About $32 per pound for an
already cooked crab. No thanks. I'll just remember how nice they were
when I had some Dungeness at a restaurant.

It's hard to find any west coast crab on this side of the country.
Ditto when I lived in land-locked west TN. No Dungeness, King, or the
smaller generic called "Alaskan" crab (legs, claws). They were shipped
in. Cold water crab from way up on the west coast are definitely better
tasting than any east coast crab. Bigger, too. YMMV. I'm thinking
drawn butter and cracking crab legs and claws and dipping. Not picking
little bits out of blue crab.

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On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 2:02:19 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
> >On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>>
> >> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
> >> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
> >> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
> >> worth eating.

> >
> >Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.

> ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
> ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.


I found as a child that the lower it swims, the better it tastes!

I love crabs and catfish! Always have.


John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
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On 1/4/2021 3:02 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
>> On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>
>>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>>> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>>> worth eating.

>>
>> Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.

>
> ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
> ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.
>

Yes, we know. Also lobsters can live for hundreds of years. Yes, some
of them can.

Lobster fishing provided a livelihood (and still does) for generations
of families who make their living fishing and trapping lobster in cold
water areas. There are islands in the North Atlantic where people make
their living from it. These days there are rules about
fishing/numbering of traps and the sizes of lobsters that can be sold.
Females have to be thrown back. Immature lobsters have to be thrown
back. They throw back very old lobsters.

Sounds like you really don't enjoy seafood. That's okay. You do
realize once the fish or seafood gets to you at the supermarket it's
been cleaned, right? Good and well cleaned fish and/or seafood doesn't
taste like shit, regardless of what it eats when it is alive.

What do you think those clams you like in chowder are eating while
sitting at the bottom of the sea? I think there's some fish poop
floating among that algae as they suck the water and nutrients in and
out. LOL

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On 1/5/2021 8:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:

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> I occasionally see Dungeness pre-cooked (from frozen) in the grocery
> store seafood case.* I glanced at them once.* About $32 per pound for an
> already cooked crab.* No thanks.* I'll just remember how nice they were
> when I had some Dungeness at a restaurant.
>
> It's hard to find any west coast crab on this side of the country. Ditto
> when I lived in land-locked west TN.* No Dungeness, King, or the smaller
> generic called "Alaskan" crab (legs, claws).* They were shipped in.
> Cold water crab from way up on the west coast are definitely better
> tasting than any east coast crab.* Bigger, too.* YMMV. * I'm thinking
> drawn butter and cracking crab legs and claws and dipping.* Not picking
> little bits out of blue crab.
>
> Jill


Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
course, washed them down with cold beer.


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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:33:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/5/2021 8:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> I occasionally see Dungeness pre-cooked (from frozen) in the grocery
>> store seafood case.* I glanced at them once.* About $32 per pound for an
>> already cooked crab.* No thanks.* I'll just remember how nice they were
>> when I had some Dungeness at a restaurant.
>>
>> It's hard to find any west coast crab on this side of the country. Ditto
>> when I lived in land-locked west TN.* No Dungeness, King, or the smaller
>> generic called "Alaskan" crab (legs, claws).* They were shipped in.
>> Cold water crab from way up on the west coast are definitely better
>> tasting than any east coast crab.* Bigger, too.* YMMV. * I'm thinking
>> drawn butter and cracking crab legs and claws and dipping.* Not picking
>> little bits out of blue crab.
>>
>> Jill

>
>Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
>used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
>home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
>newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
>course, washed them down with cold beer.


In Devon in the UK they had Dungeness crabs and you could buy it in
the market already cooked, cleaned and served rather like meat loaf.
When they packed it in the pan they filled the centre with roe and
coloured meat and the white surrounding it. It looked attractive and
was a lovely, lazy way to eat it. You purchased it by the slice.
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>On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 2:02:19 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
>> >On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >>>
>> >> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>> >> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>> >> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>> >> worth eating.
>> >
>> >Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.

>> ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
>> ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.

>
>I found as a child that the lower it swims, the better it tastes!
>
>I love crabs and catfish! Always have.
>
>John Kuthe, RN, BSN...


Crabs and catfish are the Shit Eaters Of The Sea.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
> used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
> home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
> newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
> course, washed them down with cold beer.


One should never wash down a good meal with beer.
Also...you steamed those crabs live so you had a mess when eating them?
That's about as evil as it gets...steaming live crabs.



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On 2021-01-06 12:05 p.m., Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Dungeness crab is for a meal* Blue crabs are for a social event.* We
>> used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day.* Bring them
>> home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family.* Spread
>> newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them.* The adults of
>> course, washed them down with cold beer.

>
> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.
> Also...you steamed those crabs live so you had a mess when eating them?
> That's about as evil as it gets...steaming live crabs.
>


What beverage would be appropriate to have with a meal?
Milk, sickening sweet soda pop, artificially flavoured "juice",lemonade,
coffee or tea????
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> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
> > used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
> > home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
> > newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
> > course, washed them down with cold beer.

> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.


You should never wash down a good meal with beer.

You should also stop telling people what they shouldn't drink.

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> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:05:14 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
>> > used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
>> > home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
>> > newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
>> > course, washed them down with cold beer.

>> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.

>
>You should never wash down a good meal with beer.
>
>You should also stop telling people what they shouldn't drink.


He doesn't drink beer or wine with his dinner because he can't part
with the money that costs. And then he turns that into a higher kind
of rule.
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> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 17:27:20 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 2:02:19 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 Gary wrote:
>>>> On 1/4/2021 Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I love Dungeness crabs, once nearly bought one online express delivery
>>>>> (we don't have them round our coastline) then felt it was excessive to
>>>>> spend that much on a single meal To me, they are the only crabs
>>>>> worth eating.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you've just never tried the other kinds of crabs.
>>> ALL crabs eat shit and I don't eat shit eaters.
>>> ALL catfish eat shit and I don't eat catfish either.

>>
>> I found as a child that the lower it swims, the better it tastes!
>>
>> I love crabs and catfish! Always have.
>>
>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

>
> Crabs and catfish are the Shit Eaters Of The Sea.
>


But on land, yoose the king Popeye!


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> What beverage would be appropriate to have with a meal?
> Milk, sickening sweet soda pop, artificially flavoured "juice",lemonade,
> coffee or tea????
>

I'm a fan of just plain water myself.
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On 1/6/2021 12:05 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Dungeness crab is for a meal* Blue crabs are for a social event.* We
>> used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day.* Bring them
>> home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family.* Spread
>> newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them.* The adults of
>> course, washed them down with cold beer.

>
> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.


If I was boiling the crab I'd have added beer to the water along with
crab boil seasonings.

> Also...you steamed those crabs live so you had a mess when eating them?
> That's about as evil as it gets...steaming live crabs.
>

I must have missed where he said he steamed them. Boiled, steamed,
doesn't matter. What would you expect him to do? Surely you know
freshly caught crab is cooked alive.

Then there's the crab picking and cracking at the table with the
newspaper over the table cloth on the picnic table. This is akin to the
way they used to make and serve Frogmore Stew down here in SC. A bucket
nearby for the crab shells.

I'm sure drinking beer is optional but it really should be included in
the water for boiling blue crabs.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
> used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
> home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
> newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
> course, washed them down with cold beer.


One should never wash down a good meal with beer.
Also...you steamed those crabs live so you had a mess when eating them?
That's about as evil as it gets...steaming live crabs.

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tert in seattle wrote:

> Cindy writes:


>> Gary wrote:
>>> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.


>> You should also stop telling people what they shouldn't drink.


I just state my personal preference. Obviously I don't care what others
drink. You just like to nitpick and argue everything with everyone.

> whether intentional or not, Gary is an accomplished troll


Thank you, Tert (I think)



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> What would you recommend? Dungeness is excellent, albeit nearly
> impossible to find for sale where I live now and definitely not fresh. I
> wouldn't have ordered online express delivery, either. It could well
> have been a disappointment.


Depending on where you live, crabs can be fresh if local or they come
frozen from other areas. Not a thing wrong with fresh killed and
immediately frozen crabs.

>
> I occasionally see Dungeness pre-cooked (from frozen) in the grocery
> store seafood case. I glanced at them once. About $32 per pound for an
> already cooked crab. No thanks.


I've never seen Dungeness for that price, only Alaskan king crab.
If you buy from a grocery store they always come frozen then they open
some and put into the showcase on ice. Don't buy those. Ask them for a
bag of frozen to thaw at your own leisure.

> I'll just remember how nice they were
> when I had some Dungeness at a restaurant.


Even restaurants serve previously frozen for some. Alaskan King crab and
the Opelia crabs (aka snow crabs) and often even Dungeness.

>
> It's hard to find any west coast crab on this side of the country. Ditto
> when I lived in land-locked west TN. No Dungeness, King, or the smaller
> generic called "Alaskan" crab (legs, claws). They were shipped in.
> Cold water crab from way up on the west coast are definitely better
> tasting than any east coast crab. Bigger, too. YMMV.


Bigger, yes, but not necessarily better tasting.

> I'm thinking
> drawn butter and cracking crab legs and claws and dipping. Not picking
> little bits out of blue crab.


The blue crab is nothing to shun. Very tasty but you're just too lazy to
pick them. And that's the one crab that you could catch, kill and eat
fresh often. You buy canned crabs





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> If I was boiling the crab I'd have added beer to the water along with
> crab boil seasonings.


You should try 50/50 water and vinegar (plus Old Bay seasoning)
Good for crab and shrimp. But you don't like shrimp.

>
>> Also...you steamed those crabs live so you had a mess when eating
>> them? That's about as evil as it gets...steaming live crabs.
>>

> I must have missed where he said he steamed them. Boiled, steamed,
> doesn't matter. What would you expect him to do? Surely you know
> freshly caught crab is cooked alive.


I found a better way. Told by local commercial crabbers in the area. I
start with still alive crabs and kill each one by hand. lol It's more
personal but it's more humane.

I kill and clean them right before cooking. This way, the seasoning goes
right on the meat and no mess to open and eat them later.

> I'm sure drinking beer is optional but it really should be included in
> the water for boiling blue crabs.


The water/vinegar mix is much better, imo. It adds a nice subtle tang to
the meat. Everyone should at least try it sometime. Save your beer to
drink before or after the meal.





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On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:51:40 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:05:14 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > Dungeness crab is for a meal Blue crabs are for a social event. We
> > > used to catch them in the Delaware Bay early in the day. Bring them
> > > home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
> > > newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
> > > course, washed them down with cold beer.

> > One should never wash down a good meal with beer.

>
> You should never wash down a good meal with beer.
>
> You should also stop telling people what they shouldn't drink.


That's impossible: its instinct for women to order men not to drink alcohol.
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On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 7:47:00 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> tert in seattle wrote:
>
> > Cindy writes:
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.
> >> You should also stop telling people what they shouldn't drink.

> I just state my personal preference.


Then you should say "I never wash down a good meal with beer".
"One should" implies a unnamed other person. For example,
"One should never drive 100 mph in a residential area."

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 05:29:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 7:47:00 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> > Cindy writes:
>> >> Gary wrote:
>> >>> One should never wash down a good meal with beer.
>> >> You should also stop telling people what they shouldn't drink.

>> I just state my personal preference.

>
>Then you should say "I never wash down a good meal with beer".
>"One should" implies a unnamed other person. For example,
>"One should never drive 100 mph in a residential area."


If you corner him, he'll use his last line of defense: "I was only
teasing".
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