On 2/25/2021 8:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 8:23:44 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Most any liquor store can inform either of you what German red wines
>> are available where either of you live. And naturally you can both
>> search on line and have the answer in under a minute.
>> https://vinepair.com/articles/german-red-wines/
>
> Out of curiosity, I'll have to see if they have any German reds when I'm
> at the grocery store Saturday morning.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
They should put more wine in a bottle, so there's enough for 2 people.

On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
(in >):

> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
> was/is made, now Germany.

It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:12:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message
>news >
>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 08:23:11 -0500, Sheldon Martin >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:12:29 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:53:51 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:39:19 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:42:56 PM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 12:49:29 -0800 (PST), RichD
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On February 19, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>>>>> >> >> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>>>>> >> >> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>>>>> >> >> What to buy? I figure, everyone enjoys bubbly, therefore
>>>>>> >> >> cava or prosecco? (I'm on a sub-champagne budget)
>>>>>> >> >> Or a fruity, simple rose?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> A nice bottle of Henckel Trocken and slices of smoked salmon.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Sounds exotic.
>>>>>> >How would you describe this wine?
>>>>>> >Is it safe for a casual drinker?
>>>>>> Henckel Trocken is a German sparkling wine,
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes. There, they call it sekt or schaumwein. I wonder if you could
>>>>>call
>>>>>it
>>>>>Champagner (auf deutsch) too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> as good as any fancy expensive French champagne.
>>>>>
>>>>>They share a border, so that wouldn't be surprising.
>>>>
>>>>Did anybody ever have German red wine? They produce it, but I think
>>>>they drink it all themselves.
>>>>
>>>>====
>>>>
>>>>I know I drank it in Germany, but tbh I stopped drinking wine a long
>>>>time
>>>>ago so I don't know!
>>>>
>>>Yes, it must be available in Germany. There's just not enough of it to
>>>export. Or they drink that much
>>>
>>>=====
>>> My daughter lives in Germany and I could ask, but then she won't know
>>>what is sold here)
>>
>>Most any liquor store can inform either of you what German red wines
>>are available where either of you live. And naturally you can both
>>search on line and have the answer in under a minute.
>>https://vinepair.com/articles/german-red-wines/
>
>"Dear Google, did anybody in RFC ever have any German red wine?"
>
>Well, that didn't work.
>
>
>====
>
> You sure you waited long enough ..

Maybe that's it.

===
<G>

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
>(in >):
>
>> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
>> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
>> was/is made, now Germany.
>
>It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
>
Knives??

On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 7:06:27 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
> >On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
> >> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
> >> was/is made, now Germany.
> >
> >It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
> >
> Knives??

Its tough when people speak in riddles.

On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:29:00 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 7:06:27 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
> > wrote:
> > >On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
> > >(in >):
> > >
> > >> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
> > >> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
> > >> was/is made, now Germany.
> > >
> > >It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
> > >
> > Knives??
> Its tough when people speak in riddles.

You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
of decades.

<https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 06:41:54 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:29:00 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 7:06:27 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
>> > wrote:
>> > >On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
>> > >(in >):
>> > >
>> > >> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
>> > >> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
>> > >> was/is made, now Germany.
>> > >
>> > >It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
>> > >
>> > Knives??
>> Its tough when people speak in riddles.
>
>You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
>knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
>of decades.
>
><https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
>
>Cindy Hamilton

With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
think they are made in the same place as the wine.

On 2021-02-26 9:41 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:29:00 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 7:06:27 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
>>>> (in >):
>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
>>>>> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
>>>>> was/is made, now Germany.
>>>>
>>>> It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
>>>>
>>> Knives??
>> Its tough when people speak in riddles.
>
> You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
> knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
> of decades.
>
> <https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Henkell Trochen wine,,,,,
Henckels knives.

On 2021-02-26 10:14 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
>>>>>
>>>> Knives??
>>> Its tough when people speak in riddles.
>>
>> You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
>> knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
>> of decades.
>>
>> <https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
> think they are made in the same place as the wine.
>

They are not the same name or made in the same place. Henkell Trochen
is produced in Weisbaden, and the Henkels knives are made in Soligen,
about 200 km away.

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 09:16:18 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:12:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news >>
>>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 08:23:11 -0500, Sheldon Martin >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:12:29 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:53:51 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
om...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:39:19 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:42:56 PM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 12:49:29 -0800 (PST), RichD
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On February 19, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>>>>>> >> >> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>>>>>> >> >> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>>>>>> >> >> What to buy? I figure, everyone enjoys bubbly, therefore
>>>>>>> >> >> cava or prosecco? (I'm on a sub-champagne budget)
>>>>>>> >> >> Or a fruity, simple rose?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> A nice bottle of Henckel Trocken and slices of smoked salmon.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Sounds exotic.
>>>>>>> >How would you describe this wine?
>>>>>>> >Is it safe for a casual drinker?
>>>>>>> Henckel Trocken is a German sparkling wine,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes. There, they call it sekt or schaumwein. I wonder if you could
>>>>>>call
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>Champagner (auf deutsch) too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as good as any fancy expensive French champagne.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They share a border, so that wouldn't be surprising.
>>>>>
>>>>>Did anybody ever have German red wine? They produce it, but I think
>>>>>they drink it all themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>>====
>>>>>
>>>>>I know I drank it in Germany, but tbh I stopped drinking wine a long
>>>>>time
>>>>>ago so I don't know!
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, it must be available in Germany. There's just not enough of it to
>>>>export. Or they drink that much
>>>>
>>>>=====
>>>> My daughter lives in Germany and I could ask, but then she won't know
>>>>what is sold here)
>>>
>>>Most any liquor store can inform either of you what German red wines
>>>are available where either of you live. And naturally you can both
>>>search on line and have the answer in under a minute.
>>>https://vinepair.com/articles/german-red-wines/
>>
>>"Dear Google, did anybody in RFC ever have any German red wine?"
>>
>>Well, that didn't work.
>>
>>
>>====
>>
>> You sure you waited long enough ..
>
>Maybe that's it.
>
>===
><G>

LOL yes :-)

On 2/20/2021 10:42 AM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-02-20 8:36 a.m., Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> Assuming there a few winos in this group...
>>>
>>> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>
>> Â*Â* I only take wine if I'm sure the hosts drink/serve alcohol.
>> Â*Â* If I don't know what sort of alcohol they serve or like, I take one I
>> like.
>>
>> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Janet UK
>>
>>
> I never take really good wine to people who won't appreciate it. Did
> that once. Never again.
>
It would be wasted on me. I'm drinking a cheap zinfandel, mixed
half & half with water, with a little added sucralose, further
watered down by pouring it over ice. Zinfandel seems like wine
concentrate. I can't imagine drinking it undiluted, even cold
and sweetened. When it comes to wine, calling me a Philistine
would be a great understatement.

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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:12:19 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> wrote:

>On 2/20/2021 10:42 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-02-20 8:36 a.m., Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Assuming there a few winos in this group...
>>>>
>>>> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>>> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>>> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* I only take wine if I'm sure the hosts drink/serve alcohol.
>>> Â*Â* If I don't know what sort of alcohol they serve or like, I take one I
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Janet UK
>>>
>>>
>> I never take really good wine to people who won't appreciate it. Did
>> that once. Never again.
> >
>It would be wasted on me. I'm drinking a cheap zinfandel, mixed
>half & half with water, with a little added sucralose, further
>watered down by pouring it over ice. Zinfandel seems like wine
>concentrate. I can't imagine drinking it undiluted, even cold
>and sweetened. When it comes to wine, calling me a Philistine
>would be a great understatement.

Can't you freeze the concoction and make lollypops?

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On 2/26/2021 7:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:12:19 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2/20/2021 10:42 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2021-02-20 8:36 a.m., Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming there a few winos in this group...
>>>>>
>>>>> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>>>> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>>>> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>>>
>>>> I only take wine if I'm sure the hosts drink/serve alcohol.
>>>> If I don't know what sort of alcohol they serve or like, I take one I
>>>> like.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I never take really good wine to people who won't appreciate it. Did
>>> that once. Never again.
>>>
>> It would be wasted on me. I'm drinking a cheap zinfandel, mixed
>> half & half with water, with a little added sucralose, further
>> watered down by pouring it over ice. Zinfandel seems like wine
>> concentrate. I can't imagine drinking it undiluted, even cold
>> and sweetened. When it comes to wine, calling me a Philistine
>> would be a great understatement.
>
> Can't you freeze the concoction and make lollypops?
>
Joan likes pop-sickles (sp?) for dessert.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 08:22:19 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>On 2/26/2021 7:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:12:19 -0600, BryanGSimmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/20/2021 10:42 AM, Graham wrote:
>>>> On 2021-02-20 8:36 a.m., Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming there a few winos in this group...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>>>>> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>>>>> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I only take wine if I'm sure the hosts drink/serve alcohol.
>>>>> If I don't know what sort of alcohol they serve or like, I take one I
>>>>> like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I never take really good wine to people who won't appreciate it. Did
>>>> that once. Never again.
>>>>
>>> It would be wasted on me. I'm drinking a cheap zinfandel, mixed
>>> half & half with water, with a little added sucralose, further
>>> watered down by pouring it over ice. Zinfandel seems like wine
>>> concentrate. I can't imagine drinking it undiluted, even cold
>>> and sweetened. When it comes to wine, calling me a Philistine
>>> would be a great understatement.
>>
>> Can't you freeze the concoction and make lollypops?
>>
>Joan likes pop-sickles (sp?) for dessert.

Yes, quaint.

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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 10:14:58 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 06:41:54 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:29:00 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 7:06:27 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
> >> > >(in >):
> >> > >
> >> > >> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
> >> > >> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
> >> > >> was/is made, now Germany.
> >> > >
> >> > >It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken..
> >> > >
> >> > Knives??
> >> Its tough when people speak in riddles.
> >
> >You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
> >knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
> >of decades.
> >
> ><https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
> think they are made in the same place as the wine.

Forget knives and sparkling wine, imagine all the other things companies with the name Henkel have made.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 12:11:13 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
> wrote:

>On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 10:14:58 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 06:41:54 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> >On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:29:00 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 7:06:27 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:10:56 -0800, Leo >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
>> >> > >(in >):
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
>> >> > >> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
>> >> > >> was/is made, now Germany.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
>> >> > >
>> >> > Knives??
>> >> Its tough when people speak in riddles.
>> >
>> >You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
>> >knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
>> >of decades.
>> >
>> ><https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
>> think they are made in the same place as the wine.
>
>Forget knives and sparkling wine, imagine all the other things companies with the name Henkel have made.

Such as, just interested.

On 2/27/2021 3:11 PM, Transition Zone wrote:

>>>
>>> You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
>>> knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
>>> of decades.
>>>
>>> <https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
>> think they are made in the same place as the wine.
>
> Forget knives and sparkling wine, imagine all the other things companies with the name Henkel have made.

You don't always see the name Henkel. More that I ever thought


About Henkel in North America

Its portfolio of well-known consumer and industrial brands includes
Schwarzkopf hair care, Dial soaps, Right Guard antiperspirants, Persil,
Purex and all laundry detergents, Snuggle fabric softeners as well as
Loctite, Technomelt and Bonderite adhesives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henkel

On 2/26/2021 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:12:19 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2/20/2021 10:42 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2021-02-20 8:36 a.m., Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming there a few winos in this group...
>>>>>
>>>>> You visit someone you haven't seen in a while,
>>>>> and bring a bottle of wine, as a gift, or to share.
>>>>> However, you don't know their tastes.
>>>>
>>>> Â*Â* I only take wine if I'm sure the hosts drink/serve alcohol.
>>>> Â*Â* If I don't know what sort of alcohol they serve or like, I take one I
>>>> like.
>>>>
>>>> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Janet UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I never take really good wine to people who won't appreciate it. Did
>>> that once. Never again.
>>>
>> It would be wasted on me. I'm drinking a cheap zinfandel, mixed
>> half & half with water, with a little added sucralose, further
>> watered down by pouring it over ice. Zinfandel seems like wine
>> concentrate. I can't imagine drinking it undiluted, even cold
>> and sweetened. When it comes to wine, calling me a Philistine
>> would be a great understatement.
>
> Can't you freeze the concoction and make lollypops?
>
I'm not the one who is fixated on the yungins.

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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 16:37:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/27/2021 3:11 PM, Transition Zone wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
>>>> knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
>>>> of decades.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.zwilling.com/us/henckels-international/
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
>>> think they are made in the same place as the wine.
>>
>> Forget knives and sparkling wine, imagine all the other things companies with the name Henkel have made.
>
>You don't always see the name Henkel. More that I ever thought
>
>
>About Henkel in North America
>
>Its portfolio of well-known consumer and industrial brands includes
>Schwarzkopf hair care, Dial soaps, Right Guard antiperspirants, Persil,
>Purex and all laundry detergents, Snuggle fabric softeners as well as
>Loctite, Technomelt and Bonderite adhesives.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henkel

The wine is actually Henkell Trocken and I asked my friend tonight and
as far as she knows, it only makes the wine.

Henkel in NA must be different, they may handle Persil but it comes
from the UK.

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 16:37:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 2/27/2021 3:11 PM, Transition Zone wrote:
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
> >>>> knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
> >>>> of decades.
> >>>>
> >>>> <s is /
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>
> >>> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
> >>> think they are made in the same place as the wine.
> >>
> >> Forget knives and sparkling wine, imagine all the other things companies with the name Henkel have made.
> >
> >You don't always see the name Henkel. More that I ever thought
> >
> >
> >About Henkel in North America
> >
> >Its portfolio of well-known consumer and industrial brands includes
> >Schwarzkopf hair care, Dial soaps, Right Guard antiperspirants, Persil,
> >Purex and all laundry detergents, Snuggle fabric softeners as well as
> >Loctite, Technomelt and Bonderite adhesives.
> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henkel
> The wine is actually Henkell Trocken and I asked my friend tonight and
> as far as she knows, it only makes the wine.
>
> Henkel in NA must be different, they may handle Persil but it comes
> from the UK.


Henckels is the German cutlery company...Henkel is the cleaning products conglomerate...Henkell makes the sparkling wine...I *think* that is all correct...

;-)

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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:01:42 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

>Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 16:37:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2/27/2021 3:11 PM, Transition Zone wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You're new here. I don't know how many times we've talked about Heckels
>> >>>> knives. Looks like minimum two or three times a year for the past couple
>> >>>> of decades.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <s is /
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>>
>> >>> With me it's old age creeping in - yes I know the knives, but I don't
>> >>> think they are made in the same place as the wine.
>> >>
>> >> Forget knives and sparkling wine, imagine all the other things companies with the name Henkel have made.
>> >
>> >You don't always see the name Henkel. More that I ever thought
>> >
>> >
>> >About Henkel in North America
>> >
>> >Its portfolio of well-known consumer and industrial brands includes
>> >Schwarzkopf hair care, Dial soaps, Right Guard antiperspirants, Persil,
>> >Purex and all laundry detergents, Snuggle fabric softeners as well as
>> >Loctite, Technomelt and Bonderite adhesives.
>> >
>> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henkel
>> The wine is actually Henkell Trocken and I asked my friend tonight and
>> as far as she knows, it only makes the wine.
>>
>> Henkel in NA must be different, they may handle Persil but it comes
>> from the UK.
>
>
>Henckels is the German cutlery company...Henkel is the cleaning products conglomerate...Henkell makes the sparkling wine...I *think* that is all correct...
>
>;-)

That would seem right.

On 2021-02-26 4:10 a.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Feb 25, , Lucretia Borgia wrote
> (in >):
>
>> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
>> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
>> was/is made, now Germany.
>
> It´s the same place where they make the knives and the Trocken.
>
>
You are both quite confused. Henkell Trochen is produced in Wiesbaden.
Zwilling Henckles knives are made about 200 km from there in Solingen.

On 2021-02-25 9:31 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
Cindy Hamilton
>
> I'll try to remember to ask my onceuponatime Prussian friend at the
> Saturday night do, she who came from the town where Henckel Trocken
> was/is made, now Germany.
>

Henkell Trochen is produced in Wiesbaden, which is west of Frankfurt.
Prussia is in northeastern Germany but the Baltic.

On 2021 Feb 28, , Dave Smith wrote
(in article >):

> You are both quite confused. Henkell Trochen is produced in Wiesbaden.
> Zwilling Henckles knives are made about 200 km from there in Solingen.

Very interesting! What started out as a drive-by wisecrack by me has now
turned serious. I was ripped off in the Eighties. I bought some fraud knives
at Macy´s that are spelled "J. A. Henckels". Either that or you can´t
spell the name of the knives that you´re referencing.
I´m betting on you and am set to trash my fake set of cutlery. I suppose my
Rollex watch will be next. Thanks, Dave!

On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 16:51:12 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2021 Feb 28, , Dave Smith wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> You are both quite confused. Henkell Trochen is produced in Wiesbaden.
>> Zwilling Henckles knives are made about 200 km from there in Solingen.
>
>Very interesting! What started out as a drive-by wisecrack by me has now
>turned serious. I was ripped off in the Eighties. I bought some fraud knives
>at Macy´s that are spelled "J. A. Henckels". Either that or you can´t
>spell the name of the knives that you´re referencing.
>I´m betting on you and am set to trash my fake set of cutlery. I suppose my
>Rollex watch will be next. Thanks, Dave!
>
You could have something valuable there! Remember when the first of
the Japanese copies came out? R.Onson lighters comes to mind.

On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 08:03:27 -0400, Lucretia Borgia
> wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 16:51:12 -0800, Leo >
>wrote:
>
>>On 2021 Feb 28, , Dave Smith wrote
>>(in article >):
>>
>>> You are both quite confused. Henkell Trochen is produced in Wiesbaden.
>>> Zwilling Henckles knives are made about 200 km from there in Solingen.
>>
>>Very interesting! What started out as a drive-by wisecrack by me has now
>>turned serious. I was ripped off in the Eighties. I bought some fraud knives
>>at Macy´s that are spelled "J. A. Henckels". Either that or you can´t
>>spell the name of the knives that you´re referencing.
>>I´m betting on you and am set to trash my fake set of cutlery. I suppose my
>>Rollex watch will be next. Thanks, Dave!
>>
>You could have something valuable there! Remember when the first of
>the Japanese copies came out? R.Onson lighters comes to mind.

J. A. Henkels knives are no longer of the same high quality that they
once were. For several years now they are no longer fully forged,
instead they are now of three separate stamped parts that are welded
together (they gave the process a fancy schmancy sounding name:
"Sintered"). They are far cheaper to manufacture, with the result
being low quality Toys R Us cutlery. The original hand wrought
process required a lot more skill and time, producing a stronger well
balanced knife.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5131152A/en

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:15:46 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 08:03:27 -0400, Lucretia Borgia
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 16:51:12 -0800, Leo >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On 2021 Feb 28, , Dave Smith wrote
> >>(in article >):
> >>
> >>> You are both quite confused. Henkell Trochen is produced in Wiesbaden..
> >>> Zwilling Henckles knives are made about 200 km from there in Solingen..
> >>
> >>Very interesting! What started out as a drive-by wisecrack by me has now
> >>turned serious. I was ripped off in the Eighties. I bought some fraud knives
> >>at Macy´s that are spelled "J. A. Henckels". Either that or you can´t
> >>spell the name of the knives that you´re referencing.
> >>I´m betting on you and am set to trash my fake set of cutlery. I suppose my
> >>Rollex watch will be next. Thanks, Dave!
> >>
> >You could have something valuable there! Remember when the first of
> >the Japanese copies came out? R.Onson lighters comes to mind.
> J. A. Henkels knives are no longer of the same high quality that they
> once were. For several years now they are no longer fully forged,
> instead they are now of three separate stamped parts that are welded
> together (they gave the process a fancy schmancy sounding name:
> "Sintered").

Sintering is quite a different process, as you should know.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering>

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-03-03 10:15 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 08:03:27 -0400, Lucretia Borgia
x watch will be next. Thanks, Dave!
>>>
>> You could have something valuable there! Remember when the first of
>> the Japanese copies came out? R.Onson lighters comes to mind.
>
> J. A. Henkels knives are no longer of the same high quality that they
> once were. For several years now they are no longer fully forged,
> instead they are now of three separate stamped parts that are welded
> together (they gave the process a fancy schmancy sounding name:
> "Sintered"). They are far cheaper to manufacture, with the result
> being low quality Toys R Us cutlery. The original hand wrought
> process required a lot more skill and time, producing a stronger well
> balanced knife.
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US5131152A/en
>

Bear in mind that there are two Henckels brands. Zwilling J.A. Hencles
knives are made in Germany and maintain the same standards that made
them famous. Then there is the J.J. Henkles International which are made
in China and in Spain. They are the budget version.

I have a set of Zwilling JA Henckels that I acquired over the years. I
have had most of them for over 30 years. I have had two of them
replaced under warranty. The first was a bread knife that god pushed off
the kitchen counter and landed handle first on our newly laid ceramic
tile floor. It hit the tile and the blade snapped in half. I took it
back to the store where I had bought it at least 5 years earlier and
they cave me a replacement.

The other was the large chef's knife. The rivets holding the handle to
the blade rotted away, apparently as a result of the dishwasher. I had
contacted the Canadian distributor and they said to send it to them and
they would see if it could be repaired. About two weeks late they sent
me a replacement.