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On 3/9/2021 5:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> That is probably what is wrong with her head!
>

What's *your* excuse?!

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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 12:05:25 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>> ==
>>>
>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!

>>
>> Teflon poisoning?

>
>====
>
>I don't know. You are the expert of those things, but there sure is
>something in that poisonous head of hers!


It could also be the effect of the cleaning products she used in the
hospital. Who knows what she dipped her mop in.

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Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 12:05:25 +0000, Ophelia >
> wrote:
>
>> On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!
>>>
>>> Teflon poisoning?

>>
>> ====
>>
>> I don't know. You are the expert of those things, but there sure is
>> something in that poisonous head of hers!

>
> It could also be the effect of the cleaning products she used in the
> hospital. Who knows what she dipped her mop in.
>


Does that mean you will stop sniffing her?


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On 3/9/2021 7:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:30:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Â*Â* Horses for courses.
>>>>> Â*Â* I have a couple of non-stick frying pans for omelettes, pancakes
>>>>> and
>>>>> fried eggs, and a non-stick saucepan for scrambled eggs and cheese
>>>>> sauces. No metal utensils used , ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Â*Â* A cast iron pan for searing steaks and chops.
>>>>> Â*Â* A stainless steel frying pan for everything else (stirfry veg,
>>>>> fish/scallops)
>>>>>
>>>>> Â*Â* I've had all of them for decades.
>>>>
>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>> ==
>>>
>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!

>>
>> Teflon poisoning?

>
> ====
>
> I don't know.Â* You are the expert of those things, but there sure is
> something in that poisonous head of hers!
>

How interesting you find Bruce (and dsi1, too) to be the expert of anything.

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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 17:33:01 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 3/9/2021 7:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:30:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*Â* Horses for courses.
>>>>>> Â*Â* I have a couple of non-stick frying pans for omelettes, pancakes
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> fried eggs, and a non-stick saucepan for scrambled eggs and cheese
>>>>>> sauces. No metal utensils used , ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*Â* A cast iron pan for searing steaks and chops.
>>>>>> Â*Â* A stainless steel frying pan for everything else (stirfry veg,
>>>>>> fish/scallops)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*Â* I've had all of them for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!
>>>
>>> Teflon poisoning?

>>
>> ====
>>
>> I don't know.Â* You are the expert of those things, but there sure is
>> something in that poisonous head of hers!
>>

>How interesting you find Bruce (and dsi1, too) to be the expert of anything.


I'm not an expert, but I did just watch a program about this topic.
And lo and behold, it featured experts

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jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/9/2021 7:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:30:15 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*Â* Horses for courses.
>>>>>> Â*Â* I have a couple of non-stick frying pans for omelettes,
>>>>>> pancakes and
>>>>>> fried eggs, and a non-stick saucepan for scrambled eggs and
>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>> sauces. No metal utensils used , ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*Â* A cast iron pan for searing steaks and chops.
>>>>>> Â*Â* A stainless steel frying pan for everything else
>>>>>> (stirfry veg,
>>>>>> fish/scallops)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*Â* I've had all of them for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!
>>>
>>> Teflon poisoning?

>>
>> ====
>>
>> I don't know.Â* You are the expert of those things, but there
>> sure is something in that poisonous head of hers!
>>

> How interesting you find Bruce (and dsi1, too) to be the expert of
> anything.
>
> Jill
>


Everybody knows Popeye is the font of all knowledge!


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On 09/03/2021 20:19, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 12:05:25 +0000, Ophelia >
> wrote:
>
>> On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!
>>>
>>> Teflon poisoning?

>>
>> ====
>>
>> I don't know. You are the expert of those things, but there sure is
>> something in that poisonous head of hers!

>
> It could also be the effect of the cleaning products she used in the
> hospital. Who knows what she dipped her mop in.
>


====

I suppose so! That was a long time ago, so who knows if it was safe
or not!
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:03:07 +0000, Ophelia >
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>On 09/03/2021 20:19, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 12:05:25 +0000, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/03/2021 10:42, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:04:32 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/03/2021 18:09, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using a non stick pan for decades is bad news.
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> That is probably what is wrong with her head!
>>>>
>>>> Teflon poisoning?
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> I don't know. You are the expert of those things, but there sure is
>>> something in that poisonous head of hers!

>>
>> It could also be the effect of the cleaning products she used in the
>> hospital. Who knows what she dipped her mop in.
>>

>
>====
>
> I suppose so! That was a long time ago, so who knows if it was safe
>or not!


And yet you happily take a vaccine with unknown long term effects.
lol.

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On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.


Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!

Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
oil in them.

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On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.

>
> Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
>
> Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> oil in them.


I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.


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> I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.


Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
Trolling...


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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 01:36:00 -0700, Leo >
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>On 2021 Mar 16, , bruce bowser wrote
>(in >):
>
>> I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.

>
>Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
>Trolling...
>

Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?

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On 2021 Mar 16, , Bruce wrote
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> > Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
> > Trolling...

> Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?


Hooked one! And he´s a fat boy! Straining...


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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.

> >
> > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> >
> > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > oil in them.

> I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.


Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.

I'm guessing your concerns are related to the presence of aluminum
in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Correlation is not causation.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> I'm guessing your concerns are related to the presence of aluminum
> in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Correlation is not causation.


funny stuff, aluminum is a very common element, the
body of most people should be able to deal with some
amounts of it in the diet without issues. perhaps some
genetic issues can cause problems, but i've not researched
any of that.

i'm more worried about strange effects of plastic
compounds that mimic hormones and/or off tastes in foods.


songbird


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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 02:25:21 -0700, Leo wrote:

> On 2021 Mar 16, , Bruce wrote (in
> >):
>
>> > Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
>> > Trolling...

>> Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?

>
> Hooked one! And he´s a fat boy! Straining...


Straining over anything is counter-productive at our age.


The reason I line my hat with Al foil is like Pascal's wager:

If it can prevent mind control, great!
If it cannot, at least you tried.

With no mind control, at least you always have some foil handy.
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On 3/16/2021 8:03 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 02:25:21 -0700, Leo wrote:
>
>> On 2021 Mar 16, , Bruce wrote (in
>> >):
>>
>>>> Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
>>>> Trolling...
>>> Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?

>>
>> Hooked one! And he´s a fat boy! Straining...

>
> Straining over anything is counter-productive at our age.
>
>
> The reason I line my hat with Al foil is like Pascal's wager:
>
> If it can prevent mind control, great!
> If it cannot, at least you tried.
>
> With no mind control, at least you always have some foil handy.
>



I line my hat with foil just so I can go about smiling knowingly at all
the others.

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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/16/2021 8:03 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 02:25:21 -0700, Leo wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021 Mar 16, , Bruce wrote (in
> >> >):
> >>
> >>>> Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
> >>>> Trolling...
> >>> Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?
> >>
> >> Hooked one! And he´s a fat boy! Straining...

> >
> > Straining over anything is counter-productive at our age.
> >
> > The reason I line my hat with Al foil is like Pascal's wager:
> >
> > If it can prevent mind control, great!
> > If it cannot, at least you tried.
> >
> > With no mind control, at least you always have some foil handy.
> >

> I line my hat with foil just so I can go about smiling knowingly at all
> the others.


With aluminum? Tin? Or gold? Like how satellites are lined, occasionally?
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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 6:17:38 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
> > >
> > > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> > >
> > > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > > oil in them.

> > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.

> Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.


That must be a problem with V8, a favorite drink.
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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 6:17:38 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > > > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
> > > >
> > > > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > > > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > > > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > > > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > > > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> > > >
> > > > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > > > oil in them.
> > > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.

> > Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.

> That must be a problem with V8, a favorite drink.


Or Clamato? I heard Budweiser even mixes it with beer, now.


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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 6:17:38 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > > > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
> > > >
> > > > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > > > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > > > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > > > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > > > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> > > >
> > > > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > > > oil in them.
> > > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.

> > Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.

> That must be a problem with V8, a favorite drink.


Beverage cans (and other cans that contain acidic foods) are coated
on the inside.

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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:15:08 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 6:17:38 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > > > > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > > > > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > > > > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > > > > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > > > > oil in them.
> > > > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.
> > > Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.

> > That must be a problem with V8, a favorite drink.

> Beverage cans (and other cans that contain acidic foods) are coated
> on the inside.


That definitely reduces aluminum residue.
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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 12:17:38 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
> > >
> > > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> > >
> > > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > > oil in them.

> > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.

> Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.
>
> I'm guessing your concerns are related to the presence of aluminum
> in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Correlation is not causation.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Aluminum cookware was thought to be brain-dangerous since the 60's. Back then, it was called "senility." It's a very old-school fear. I grew up with a aluminum rice pot and Dutch oven. I wish I had the rice pot. It was so awesome.
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 12:17:38 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:

>
>> > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.

>> Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.
>>
>> I'm guessing your concerns are related to the presence of aluminum
>> in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Correlation is not causation.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
>Aluminum cookware was thought to be brain-dangerous since the 60's. Back then, it was called "senility." It's a very old-school fear. I grew up with a aluminum rice pot and Dutch oven. I wish I had the rice pot. It was so awesome.
>

Not so old-school. The jury's undecided even today.
>

"Oral exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful. Some studies show
that people exposed to high levels of aluminum may develop Alzheimer's
disease, but other studies have not found this to be true. We do not
know for certain that aluminum causes Alzheimer's disease."
<https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp22-c1-b.pdf>
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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:28:06 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 12:17:38 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:

> >
> >> > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.
> >> Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing your concerns are related to the presence of aluminum
> >> in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Correlation is not causation.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton

> >
> >Aluminum cookware was thought to be brain-dangerous since the 60's. Back then, it was called "senility." It's a very old-school fear. I grew up with a aluminum rice pot and Dutch oven. I wish I had the rice pot. It was so awesome.
> >

> Not so old-school. The jury's undecided even today.
> >

> "Oral exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful. Some studies show
> that people exposed to high levels of aluminum may develop Alzheimer's
> disease, but other studies have not found this to be true. We do not
> know for certain that aluminum causes Alzheimer's disease."
> <https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp22-c1-b.pdf>
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I suppose it depends on your definition of "old-school."


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On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
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>On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:28:06 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 12:17:38 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >
>> >> > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.
>> >> Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.
>> >>
>> >> I'm guessing your concerns are related to the presence of aluminum
>> >> in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Correlation is not causation.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> >Aluminum cookware was thought to be brain-dangerous since the 60's. Back then, it was called "senility." It's a very old-school fear. I grew up with a aluminum rice pot and Dutch oven. I wish I had the rice pot. It was so awesome.
>> >

>> Not so old-school. The jury's undecided even today.
>> >

>> "Oral exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful. Some studies show
>> that people exposed to high levels of aluminum may develop Alzheimer's
>> disease, but other studies have not found this to be true. We do not
>> know for certain that aluminum causes Alzheimer's disease."
>> <https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp22-c1-b.pdf>
>> >

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"from the past", as opposed to "from the present"

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bruce bowser wrote:
> V8, a favorite drink.


I like V8 too. I add lots of extra black pepper.


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> V8, a favorite drink.
>
> Or Clamato? I heard Budweiser even mixes it with beer, now.


Don't know about these days but back in the early 1970's "Red Beer" was
a popular bar drink in Nebraska. Just tomato juice mixed with regular
beer. I tried it once. It was OK but I never made it again.



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On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 10:11:29 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> bruce bowser wrote:
> > V8, a favorite drink.
> >
> > Or Clamato? I heard Budweiser even mixes it with beer, now.

> Don't know about these days but back in the early 1970's "Red Beer" was
> a popular bar drink in Nebraska. Just tomato juice mixed with regular
> beer. I tried it once. It was OK but I never made it again.


I hear that in Germany, beer mixed with coke or pepsi, etc.. is called a diesel.
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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 12:11:46 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 6:17:38 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 3:28:08 AM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-03-06, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > > > > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > > > > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > > > > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > > > > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > > > > oil in them.
> > > > I wonder how much aluminum residue gets consumed with that.
> > > Very little. Just don't cook tomato sauce in aluminum.

> > That must be a problem with V8, a favorite drink.

> Or Clamato? I heard Budweiser even mixes it with beer, now.
>

Only gross people drink Budweiser anyway, and that goes double for
anyone who drinks it with Clamato.

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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:08:48 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/16/2021 8:03 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 02:25:21 -0700, Leo wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021 Mar 16, , Bruce wrote (in
> >> >):
> >>
> >>>> Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
> >>>> Trolling...
> >>> Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?
> >>
> >> Hooked one! And he´s a fat boy! Straining...

> >
> > Straining over anything is counter-productive at our age.
> >
> >
> > The reason I line my hat with Al foil is like Pascal's wager:
> >
> > If it can prevent mind control, great!
> > If it cannot, at least you tried.
> >
> > With no mind control, at least you always have some foil handy.
> >

> I line my hat with foil just so I can go about smiling knowingly at all
> the others.
>

It'd be fun to wear a hat with foil sticking out around the edges.
People would go home and tell their families, "You won't believe
what I saw today..."

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On 3/17/2021 2:54 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:08:48 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 3/16/2021 8:03 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 02:25:21 -0700, Leo wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021 Mar 16, , Bruce wrote (in
>>>> >):
>>>>
>>>>>> Aluminum is good for the brain. Ever heard of the Aluminati?
>>>>>> Trolling...
>>>>> Speaking of aluminium, have you ever tried an aluminium hat?
>>>>
>>>> Hooked one! And he´s a fat boy! Straining...
>>>
>>> Straining over anything is counter-productive at our age.
>>>
>>>
>>> The reason I line my hat with Al foil is like Pascal's wager:
>>>
>>> If it can prevent mind control, great!
>>> If it cannot, at least you tried.
>>>
>>> With no mind control, at least you always have some foil handy.
>>>

>> I line my hat with foil just so I can go about smiling knowingly at all
>> the others.
>>

> It'd be fun to wear a hat with foil sticking out around the edges.
> People would go home and tell their families, "You won't believe
> what I saw today..."
>
> --Bryan
>



or "i gots to get me summa dat!"



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On 2021-03-17 5:54 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:08:48 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:

ith no mind control, at least you always have some foil handy.
>>>

>> I line my hat with foil just so I can go about smiling knowingly at all
>> the others.
>>

> It'd be fun to wear a hat with foil sticking out around the edges.
> People would go home and tell their families, "You won't believe
> what I saw today..."
>


I can't help but think about some of the gender confused people I have
seen that dress outrageously and then get all bent out of shape when
someone gives the the attention they are so desperately seeking. The
problem is not with the people who react. It is with the people who
actively seek but then scorn the expected attention.

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On 3/13/2021 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2021-03-06, Ed > wrote:
>
>> My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.

>
> Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
>
> Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> oil in them.
>
> nb


I almost exclusively use cast iron. I have 2 stainless steel pans, and
2 aluminum griddles. I don't trust Teflon or non-stick.
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On 2021 Mar 17, , Gary wrote
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> Don't know about these days but back in the early 1970's "Red Beer" was
> a popular bar drink in Nebraska. Just tomato juice mixed with regular
> beer. I tried it once. It was OK but I never made it again.


Ditto in Nevada and ditto with your experience.




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On 3/17/2021 3:27 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 10:11:29 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>> V8, a favorite drink.
>>>
>>> Or Clamato? I heard Budweiser even mixes it with beer, now.

>> Don't know about these days but back in the early 1970's "Red Beer" was
>> a popular bar drink in Nebraska. Just tomato juice mixed with regular
>> beer. I tried it once. It was OK but I never made it again.

>
> I hear that in Germany, beer mixed with coke or pepsi, etc.. is called a diesel.


I used to mix dry white wine with diet Coke. I called it a good wine
cooler. I discovered that mix by accident but it turned out pretty
tasty. Two parts wine to one part diet coke or sometimes 50/50 mix.





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> anyone who drinks it with Clamato.


I love clams but I tried that Clamato drink once when it first came out
and it was so *wrong*.



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On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/13/2021 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2021-03-06, Ed > wrote:
> >
> >> My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.

> >
> > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
> > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
> > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
> > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
> > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
> >
> > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
> > oil in them.
> >
> > nb

>
> I almost exclusively use cast iron. I have 2 stainless steel pans, and
> 2 aluminum griddles. I don't trust Teflon or non-stick.


Nonstick is no problem if you're wearing your tinfoil hat.

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On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 12:31:08 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> > I almost exclusively use cast iron. I have 2 stainless steel pans, and
> > 2 aluminum griddles. I don't trust Teflon or non-stick.
> >

> Nonstick is no problem if you're wearing your tinfoil hat.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

*SNORT*
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:31:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/13/2021 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>> > On 2021-03-06, Ed > wrote:
>> >
>> >> My favorite pan for searing is a 10" SS lined copper pan.
>> >
>> > Izzat one of those SS "ceramic" pans (like you can buy at WW) or a
>> > real "SS lined COPPER pan"? I have one of the former and it sucks!!
>> > I bought a 6" inch "ceramic" version and it's neither non-stick nor
>> > worth a damn. I bought a "10"" version B4 I knew better. DO NOT buy
>> > a "copper SS ceramic" skillet! They are NOT normally "non-stick"!!
>> >
>> > Even "alum egg pans" (resto grade) are "non-stick" if you put enough
>> > oil in them.
>> >
>> > nb

>>
>> I almost exclusively use cast iron. I have 2 stainless steel pans, and
>> 2 aluminum griddles. I don't trust Teflon or non-stick.

>
>Nonstick is no problem if you're wearing your tinfoil hat.


Scientists disagree with you.

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