On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:39:02 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:

> Sheldone wrote:

>> Paper plates,

> Yep. Stick a fork in Sheldon, he is done.

Most houses have garages. So it make sense that if one has no
automobiles, one can use the space for other stuff.

If he uses paper plates, why not use the dishwasher to store things?


Actually, this is a terrible example. Most garages are already full of
junk, with the car parked out front between the diesel snowplow and the
turbo-driven tractor.

dsi1 wrote:
> If yoose believes that my views on black/Asian folks are similar to yours, you're delusional.

I have a question for you Dsi1. Lately, lots of anti-asian reports on
the news. Are you having this problem in Hawaii?

I would guess not. Hawaii has always been known as locals having some
asian blend from many asian countries. No big deal and Hawaii is a to
die for tourist destination.

I would think your islands are exempt from this current anti trend.

???

On 3/24/2021 11:12 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/24/2021 1:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 8:39 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> My favorite inside summer temp is about 78F with fan.
>>
>> Waaaay too hot!
>>
>> Jill
>
> Disagreed; I love the heat - so as long as it isn't humid. I'm very
> comfortable in the low 80's. Window A/C unit only comes on
> intermittently when the temps are into the high 80's+, or when humidity
> is miserable.

True. 78F inside with AC is lower humidity than 78F outside with high
humidity.

AC is not just for cooling. It's for reducing humidity.

Many summer mornings, I go outside early.
It can be 82 inside with low humidity due to the AC.
Same time it can be 82 outside and when I walk out, it feels like
walking into a hot, steamy bathroom after someone took a long hot shower.

Big difference.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:34:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:15:15 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:

>> RFC has a not atypical contingent of truly crazy posters, but those
>> are not the problem. I don't mind the lunatic fringe or the whacko
>> political agenda types, but some folks go to a LOT of trouble to drop
>> all these extraneous bullshit "guess who I am imitating today?" posts.
>> That is its own branch of WTF loon.
>>
>> I have never seen a group on any community platform/forum even going
>> back to the early 80s, with as much nymshifting dreck as this one
>> always has. Facebook is a world unto itself, but I gave that up so
>> long ago, I have no idea what's there these days.
>>

>
>Usenet just ain't usenet anymore. Back in the old days, the posters were mostly from military, educational, scientific, research, institutions. They used the facilities available through their institutions and therefor, were in fact, representing their organizations. My guess is that any bad behavior was easily squelched by being held responsible for your words. These days, all those right and proper people and replaced by the socially, morally, and mentally, inept. Back in the old days, bad behavior would be going off topic. That's the breaks.
>
>https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food...m/XKTmFKanfKYJ

Comments on civility even back then! There were always some wild
Usenet group

I did not get involved in Usenet until a couple of years after that -
def in the mid 90s, tho, because I recall all the Clinton insanity. I
was still mostly hanging out on IRC and BBS for the most part.

Think we had a dial up here at home- maybe still had one at the office
in the early 90s.OH, and in those days, the thought of a moderated
group was horrifying!

Reddit is much more productive for me these days and I can hone in
only on what I want to read, and keep to moderated groups so the ads
and crap are at to a minimum.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 23:12:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>> > Usenet just ain't usenet anymore. Back in the old days, the posters were mostly from military, educational, scientific, research, institutions. They used the facilities available through their institutions and therefor, were in fact, representing their organizations. My guess is that any bad behavior was easily squelched by being held responsible for your words. These days, all those right and proper people and replaced by the socially, morally, and mentally, inept. Back in the old days, bad behavior would be going off topic. That's the breaks.
>> >
>> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food...m/XKTmFKanfKYJ
>> I guess you can blame AOL for that.

They came into it later
>
>Steve Case carved out his place in history by democratising/popularizing Usenet. That was probably not a good thing to do. That's like shooting a mocking bird. I don't think that's such a big deal since the Original Posters have moved on to their own outlets of professional interchange. These days, Usenet is just a reflection of our dysfunctional/disenfranchised/disgruntled society. That's the breaks.

I used Compuserve in the late 80s - GEnie a bit earlier.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
> wrote:

>In article >, says...
>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
>>
>Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.

I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
you the impression that I am LGBTQA?

Do you have any idea of the gender/non-gender with which I identify
and am well known? Remember- there are people around here who have
actually met me, corresponded with me, known me for decades....so tell
me- how did you come to any of these ideas of yours?

Oh, I might cop to demented. No harm in that once in awhile.

Do you leap to conclusions when you cook, too? Poison anyone yet?

And I must remind you- if you do not like what I post. STFU or KF me,
you egotistical and prejudiced idiot.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:47:19 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 25/03/2021 03:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 5:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> And as for your $1 loaf of bread in your previous post:* that's shitty
>>> bread.* I'd rather pay $7 and get a good loaf of bread.
>>
>> I'd rather have the expensive bread too, but income is a factor in these
>> things as well.
>>
>Bake your own. Good bread at 'cheap bread' prices.

Excellent advice.

Even enriched doughs with butter and eggs do not cost much in home
made material.

On 3/25/2021 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 23:12:48 -0400, Michael Trew >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/24/2021 8:37 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 3/23/2021 3:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>> If I had to do our dishes by hand, I'd stop eating.
>>>
>>> I can see using a dishwasher for many people but with just me here, I
>>> hand wash dishes twice a day. Takes about 5 minutes each time. Once
>>> rinsed, they go on a wooden dish rack to dry.
>>>
>>> Did the same all the years my daughter lived with me too.
>>
>> Thank you; same way my parents and grandparents did. Fast and easy... a
>> small household running a dish washer daily is a true waste of water.
>
> Not if a dishwasher uses less water than doing dishes by hand. It's
> also much faster.

It doesn't use less water. It also uses all the electricity and it
certainly isn't faster.

I can see one useful for a large family but one or two people can save
the earth by handwashing. Only a full dishwasher load might be
efficient. It would take me a week to fill one up.

Maybe people here seem to think handwashing entails filling the sink a
few times. No so. I stack dirty dishes in the sink and only fill the
dishes and bowls to soak for a bit. Very little water used.

My small pot for soapy water uses about a pint.

I can hand wash my dishes in about 2 minutes, then I turn on hot water
to rinse them all in another minute or two. Put on rack to dry.

Dishwasher runs for 30-40 minutes and fills and drains 3 times. All the
electricity, more water and much longer time.

Not only that, when I used one, I always turned off the "dry"
cycle...just more wasted electricity. After the final rinse and drain I
would just open it up and let it air dry.

Dishwashers are a luxury but not something that saves time or water or
electricity.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 03:19:19 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:47:24 AM UTC-4, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 25/03/2021 03:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>> > On 3/24/2021 5:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> And as for your $1 loaf of bread in your previous post: that's shitty
>> >> bread. I'd rather pay $7 and get a good loaf of bread.
>> >
>> > I'd rather have the expensive bread too, but income is a factor in these
>> > things as well.
>>
>> Bake your own. Good bread at 'cheap bread' prices.
>
>Including energy & labor costs of cleaning dishes.

Energy is expended to get to/from the store, either human or
mechanical if you are going to buy store bread or ingredients to use
at home.

Baked yourself at home there is one bowl to mix the dough, which also
serves as the proof container. Shaped loaf bakes on reusable
parchment/mat on a stone. No clean up to that except to blow off the
crumbs.

I get the feeling you haven't the foggiest idea of how bread is made.
I have news for you...it does not come out of the oven sliced and in a
bag.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:23:54 -0400, Bruce wrote:

> The same guy that used to whine about being plonked

whines also about not being plonked.

He whines worse than a Canadian, and I'm saying that as a Canadian.

On 21:28 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:14, Pamela > wrote:
>>On 20:34 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:29:50 GMT, Pamela
>>> > wrote:
>>>>On 03:34 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>>
>>>>> If cents are more important than quality, everything's
>>>>> different. Maybe you can find a place where they sell days old
>>>>> bread for even less than $1? Or those big carrots that people
>>>>> buy for their horses? They're cheap too.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>
>>>>Good to see individual.net is still going strong.
>>>>
>>>>Better if Agent lets the newserver use its own qualified domain
>>>>name -- because viewers here can filter for it.
>>>
>>> Agent doesn't allow you to filter on news server,
>>
>>however other newsreaders do, such as mine. Agent should be able
>>not to insert 4ax.com for the post's domain name.
>
> I don't know what that is. I don't see it. But I might switch to
> Xnews. I've used it before.

I was suggesting you disable the Agent-generated "4ax.com".

That permits newsreaders which can filter on message-id to
tell your posts apart from Mr Neodome's. That assumes the
Neodome server won't accept newsreader-provided message-IDs faking
individual.net.

On 2021-03-25 6:25 a.m., Bruce wrote:

>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>
> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>

It would be hard to believe there is more than one person in a small
group who is so needy.

On 2021-03-25 7:20 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:23:54 -0400, Bruce wrote:
>
>> The same guy that used to whine about being plonked
>
> whines also about not being plonked.
>
> He whines worse than a Canadian, and I'm saying that as a Canadian.
>
Speak for yourself!

On 3/25/2021 8:47 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> Dishwashers are a luxury but not something that saves time or water or
> electricity.
>

You were probably correct in 1955 but very wrong in 2001. There have
been many tests showing the efficiency of a machine

Mine runs about every 3 days at a cost of about 12 cents. The
convenience and cleanliness is worth $1.20 a month.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:54:37 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-25 7:20 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:23:54 -0400, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> The same guy that used to whine about being plonked
> >
> > whines also about not being plonked.
> >
> > He whines worse than a Canadian, and I'm saying that as a Canadian.
> >
> Speak for yourself!


Are you being "ironic" here, Graham...???

:-P

--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:27:26 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/24/2021 11:12 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 1:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/24/2021 8:39 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> My favorite inside summer temp is about 78F with fan.
>>>
>>> Waaaay too hot!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Disagreed; I love the heat - so as long as it isn't humid. I'm very
>> comfortable in the low 80's. Window A/C unit only comes on
>> intermittently when the temps are into the high 80's+, or when humidity
>> is miserable.

Window air conditioners can't sense humidity, if too humid all you can
do is crank up the cooling, but then it becomes cold and dank, and the
cooling shuts off. Same occurs when people put in an over size
central air unit, cooling shuts off before the humidity is pumped out.
AC is tricky to calibrate which size to install.

>True. 78F inside with AC is lower humidity than 78F outside with high
>humidity.
>
>AC is not just for cooling. It's for reducing humidity.
>
>Many summer mornings, I go outside early.
>It can be 82 inside with low humidity due to the AC.
>Same time it can be 82 outside and when I walk out, it feels like
>walking into a hot, steamy bathroom after someone took a long hot shower.
>
>Big difference.
>

On 3/24/2021 11:17 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

>
> I live in a community of about 10K people in eastern Ohio; local
> municipal run water.Â* If you go over the 2K gallons, they bill you by
> the additional thousand gallons.Â* As long as you aren't massively
> wasteful, there really isn't much motivation to save water.Â* Sewage is
> billed based on water volume.Â* Trash pick up is included.Â* Rates are now
> up to $62/mo for the minimum.Â* It's another $11-14 or so if you go over
> the 2k gal water limit.

That sounds awfully high. I pay a basic charge but water is billed at
$2.28 per thousand gallons. The meter reads in increments of 100
gallons. So I pay .0028 cents per gallon. Rate goes up slightly at 6000
gallons.

Sewer is based on water. Twice a week trash collection is $14.33 a month.

I abhor waste but use what I need since it is reasonably priced.
Typical monthly bill is $65 or so.

On 3/25/2021 8:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
> > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
>>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
>>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
>>>
>> Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.
>
> I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
> you the impression that I am LGBTQA?
>
So you're a **** and not a faggot?
>
> Remember- there are people around here who have
> actually met me, corresponded with me, known me for decades.
>
You keep repeating that like it's some badge of honor, doesn't
make you any less of an asshole here, or anyplace else.

On 2021-03-25 11:40 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> That sounds awfully high.Â* I pay a basic charge but water is billed at
> $2.28 per thousand gallons.Â* The meter reads in increments of 100
> gallons. So I pay .0028 cents per gallon.Â* Rate goes up slightly at 6000
> gallons.
>
> Sewer is based on water.Â* Twice a week trash collection is $14.33 a month.
>
> I abhor waste but use what I need since it is reasonably priced. Typical
> monthly bill is $65 or so.

Cheap. My well water is free other than the cost of electricity to pump
and pressurize it. In the summer the well runs low and I usually have
to get a few loads of water trucked in, and that is now up to $85 for a
2500 gallon load.

On 3/25/2021 1:00 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:43:13 -0400, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/25/2021 8:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
>>>>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
>>>>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
>>>>>
>>>> Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.
>>>
>>> I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
>>> you the impression that I am LGBTQA?
>>>
>> So you're a **** and not a faggot?
>
> Have one, not *am* one.
>
With a name like Boron the only way you'll ever get laid is if you crawl
up a chicken's ass and wait, you blowhard.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 2:26:27 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > If yoose believes that my views on black/Asian folks are similar to yours, you're delusional.
> I have a question for you Dsi1. Lately, lots of anti-asian reports on
> the news. Are you having this problem in Hawaii?
>
> I would guess not. Hawaii has always been known as locals having some
> asian blend from many asian countries. No big deal and Hawaii is a to
> die for tourist destination.
>
> I would think your islands are exempt from this current anti trend.
>
> ???

As far as I know, we're not but it's certainly possible. OTOH, if you're Asian and live on the mainland, you're going to get hassled at times. That's a very oppressive environment to have to live in. OTOH, the cost of living is a killer here and a lot of locals will choose to live on the mainland to escape this crushing weight. In the end, one has to choose which weigh one has to bear.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:47:50 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/25/2021 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Not if a dishwasher uses less water than doing dishes by hand. It's
>> also much faster.
>
>It doesn't use less water. It also uses all the electricity and it
>certainly isn't faster.
>
>I can see one useful for a large family but one or two people can save
>the earth by handwashing. Only a full dishwasher load might be
>efficient. It would take me a week to fill one up.
>
>Maybe people here seem to think handwashing entails filling the sink a
>few times. No so. I stack dirty dishes in the sink and only fill the
>dishes and bowls to soak for a bit. Very little water used.
>
>My small pot for soapy water uses about a pint.
>
>I can hand wash my dishes in about 2 minutes, then I turn on hot water
>to rinse them all in another minute or two. Put on rack to dry.
>
>Dishwasher runs for 30-40 minutes and fills and drains 3 times. All the
>electricity, more water and much longer time.
>
>Not only that, when I used one, I always turned off the "dry"
>cycle...just more wasted electricity. After the final rinse and drain I
>would just open it up and let it air dry.
>
>Dishwashers are a luxury but not something that saves time or water or
>electricity.

Even if it didn't, I have better things to spend my time on. But if
you prefer to do it by hand, enjoy!

--
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On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>
>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>
> Have you emailed them?

===

Why would I email you!

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:59:38 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
>> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>>
>>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>>
>> Have you emailed them?
>
>===
>
> Why would I email you!

That was the fake Bruce at the end.

--
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 1:11:31 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On 3/25/2021 1:00 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:43:13 -0400, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/25/2021 8:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In article >, says...
> >>>>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
> >>>>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
> >>>>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
> >>>>>
> >>>> Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.
> >>>
> >>> I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
> >>> you the impression that I am LGBTQA?
> >>>
> >> So you're a **** and not a faggot?
> >
> > Have one, not *am* one.
> >
> With a name like Boron the only way you'll ever get laid is if you crawl
> up a chicken's ass and wait, you blowhard.

Why do you assume that Boron posts with her real name?

Do you post with your real name?

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/25/2021 2:24 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 1:11:31 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On 3/25/2021 1:00 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:43:13 -0400, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2021 8:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
>>>>>>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
>>>>>>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
>>>>> you the impression that I am LGBTQA?
>>>>>
>>>> So you're a **** and not a faggot?
>>>
>>> Have one, not *am* one.
>>>
>> With a name like Boron the only way you'll ever get laid is if you crawl
>> up a chicken's ass and wait, you blowhard.
>
> Why do you assume that Boron posts with her real name?
>
> Do you post with your real name?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Why do you hump my posts, Hammy? Get your wide ass back to
work, you're not being paid to be RFC moderator.

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On 3/25/2021 1:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
>> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>>
>>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>>
>> Have you emailed them?
>
> ===
>
> Â* Why would I email you!
>
Why not? You emailed Dave several times and then called
him a liar.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:18:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-25 11:40 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> That sounds awfully high.* I pay a basic charge but water is billed at
>> $2.28 per thousand gallons.* The meter reads in increments of 100
>> gallons. So I pay .0028 cents per gallon.* Rate goes up slightly at 6000
>> gallons.
>>
>> Sewer is based on water.* Twice a week trash collection is $14.33 a month.
>>
>> I abhor waste but use what I need since it is reasonably priced. Typical
>> monthly bill is $65 or so.
>
>Cheap. My well water is free other than the cost of electricity to pump
>and pressurize it. In the summer the well runs low and I usually have
>to get a few loads of water trucked in, and that is now up to $85 for a
>2500 gallon load.

We have two wells, both here when we moved in. one for our house, and
the other for the rental house that we had demolished, we kept the
well and the detached one car garage. Both wells work fantastically,
plenty of free water. But we pay a small amount for the electricity
to run them and a small amount to have a lab test the water once a
year. With just the two of us we don't use a lot of water, but we buy
salt for the one water softener. Salt is cheap but there's my labor
to lug those 40 lb sacks home and down into the basement. We used to
buy the salt at Lowe's but now we have a Tractor Supply Store in town
and they charge a couple of dollars less and they load a dozen bags a
year into my vehicle. The built in handle on those plastic bags is
thin plastic and cuts into my hand but I discovered that if I wear a
thick leather work glove the job is much easier on my hand.

I wash dishes by hand, two place settings a day is a nothing, plus I
use things that can't go into the dish washer and since I have to hand
wash those pieces anyway I may as well hand wash it all. I use full
hot water and use lined rubber gloves, I don't feel the heat. And
since I find myself preparing food all day every day I always have
things that need washing and so I wash by hand all the time. I find
it much easier to hand wash muffin tins, cake pans and the like by
hand and at the time they are ready to wash. I hand wash all wooden
and aluminum items. I find it much easier to hand wash those few
items as they need washing rather than leave them strewn about as
clutter making a mess. And I really don't care how others do their
kitchen chores, I have my system and I adhere to it.

On 25/03/2021 18:07, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:59:38 +0000, Ophelia >
> wrote:
>
>> On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
>>> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>>>
>>> Have you emailed them?
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Why would I email you!
>
> That was the fake Bruce at the end.
>
====

I know))

On 25/03/2021 17:11, Bruce wrote:
> On 3/25/2021 1:00 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:43:13 -0400, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2021 8:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
>>>>>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
>>>>>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
>>>> you the impression that I am LGBTQA?
>>>>
>>> So you're a **** and not a faggot?
>>
>> Have one, not *am* one.
>>
> With a name like Boron the only way you'll ever get laid is if you crawl
> up a chicken's ass and wait, you blowhard.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 18:39:42 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 25/03/2021 18:07, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:59:38 +0000, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>>>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>>>>
>>>> Have you emailed them?
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Why would I email you!
>>
>> That was the fake Bruce at the end.
>>
>====
>
> I know))

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this group,
>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>> control.
>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>> comprehensible.
>>
>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>> as "Casa Boner".
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>===
>
>Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!


Golly gosh, so it was! lol!

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On 25/03/2021 19:26, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 18:39:42 +0000, Ophelia >
> wrote:
>
>> On 25/03/2021 18:07, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:59:38 +0000, Ophelia >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>>>>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Have you emailed them?
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Why would I email you!
>>>
>>> That was the fake Bruce at the end.
>>>
>> ====
>>
>> I know))
>
> Good

=====

I am getting there)

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:18:53 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 25/03/2021 17:11, Bruce wrote:
>> On 3/25/2021 1:00 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:43:13 -0400, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2021 8:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:12:45 -0400, David Crossley
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>> I keep imagining these schmucks as someone like Donald Trump in
>>>>>>> tightie whities, sitting in a rumpled bed with a cell phone and a Big
>>>>>>> Mac and/or maybe his dick in his hand...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please keep your demented fag fantasies to yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize you are a bigoted and damaged human being, but whatever gave
>>>>> you the impression that I am LGBTQA?
>>>>>
>>>> So you're a **** and not a faggot?
>>>
>>> Have one, not *am* one.
>>>
>> With a name like Boron the only way you'll ever get laid is if you crawl
>> up a chicken's ass and wait, you blowhard.

lol

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:47:50 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/25/2021 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 23:12:48 -0400, Michael Trew >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/24/2021 8:37 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> On 3/23/2021 3:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>>> If I had to do our dishes by hand, I'd stop eating.
>>>>
>>>> I can see using a dishwasher for many people but with just me here, I
>>>> hand wash dishes twice a day. Takes about 5 minutes each time. Once
>>>> rinsed, they go on a wooden dish rack to dry.
>>>>
>>>> Did the same all the years my daughter lived with me too.
>>>
>>> Thank you; same way my parents and grandparents did. Fast and easy... a
>>> small household running a dish washer daily is a true waste of water.
>>
>> Not if a dishwasher uses less water than doing dishes by hand. It's
>> also much faster.
>
>It doesn't use less water. It also uses all the electricity and it
>certainly isn't faster.
>
>I can see one useful for a large family but one or two people can save
>the earth by handwashing. Only a full dishwasher load might be
>efficient. It would take me a week to fill one up.
>
>Maybe people here seem to think handwashing entails filling the sink a
>few times. No so. I stack dirty dishes in the sink and only fill the
>dishes and bowls to soak for a bit. Very little water used.
>
>My small pot for soapy water uses about a pint.
>
>I can hand wash my dishes in about 2 minutes, then I turn on hot water
>to rinse them all in another minute or two. Put on rack to dry.
>
>Dishwasher runs for 30-40 minutes and fills and drains 3 times. All the
>electricity, more water and much longer time.
>
>Not only that, when I used one, I always turned off the "dry"
>cycle...just more wasted electricity. After the final rinse and drain I
>would just open it up and let it air dry.
>
>Dishwashers are a luxury but not something that saves time or water or
>electricity.

Aww, they can save time and electricity. You just bought the wrong
model https://i.postimg.cc/G2YXF8kw/dsn5858643298.jpg


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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:14 -0400, % > wrote:

>On 3/25/2021 4:23 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:14:13 GMT, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20:34* 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:29:50 GMT, Pamela >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 03:34* 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If cents are more important than quality, everything's
>>>>>>> different. Maybe you can find a place where they sell days old
>>>>>>> bread for even less than $1? Or those big carrots that people
>>>>>>> buy for their horses? They're cheap too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to see individual.net is still going strong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Better if Agent lets the newserver use its own qualified domain
>>>>>> name -- because viewers here can filter for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agent doesn't allow you to filter on news server,
>>>>
>>>> however other newsreaders do, such as mine. Agent should be able not to
>>>> insert 4ax.com for the post's domain name.
>>>
>>> I don't know what that is. I don't see it. But I might switch to
>>> Xnews. I've used it before.
>>>
>> That's funny!* The same guy that used to whine about being
>> plonked so much is now whining about not being able to plonk.
>>
>Yes, and the hypocrite used to morph nyms in order to
>evade killfilters. He's really butthurt now.

Yes. And he still resorts to morphing when he's desperate for those
who plonked him to see his cowardly replies.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:01:15 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:14:13 GMT, Pamela >
>wrote:
>
>>On 20:34 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:29:50 GMT, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>>On 03:34 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>>
>>>>> If cents are more important than quality, everything's
>>>>> different. Maybe you can find a place where they sell days old
>>>>> bread for even less than $1? Or those big carrots that people
>>>>> buy for their horses? They're cheap too.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>
>>>>Good to see individual.net is still going strong.
>>>>
>>>>Better if Agent lets the newserver use its own qualified domain
>>>>name -- because viewers here can filter for it.
>>>
>>> Agent doesn't allow you to filter on news server,
>>
>>however other newsreaders do, such as mine.
>
>Do you filter on "aioe" or "neodome" in the message-ID? Are there no
>news readers that can filter on the Path header?

lol

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:30:06 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:01:15 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:14:13 GMT, Pamela >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 20:34 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:29:50 GMT, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On 03:34 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If cents are more important than quality, everything's
>>>>>> different. Maybe you can find a place where they sell days old
>>>>>> bread for even less than $1? Or those big carrots that people
>>>>>> buy for their horses? They're cheap too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>
>>>>>Good to see individual.net is still going strong.
>>>>>
>>>>>Better if Agent lets the newserver use its own qualified domain
>>>>>name -- because viewers here can filter for it.
>>>>
>>>> Agent doesn't allow you to filter on news server,
>>>
>>>however other newsreaders do, such as mine.
>>
>>Do you filter on "aioe" or "neodome" in the message-ID? Are there no
>>news readers that can filter on the Path header?
>
>lol

lol

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:49:24 +0000, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 25/03/2021 19:26, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 18:39:42 +0000, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/03/2021 18:07, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:59:38 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25/03/2021 10:56, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/25/2021 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 10:25, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:22:21 +0000, Ophelia >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25/03/2021 09:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:35:55 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's true, but if you want to add something positive to this
>>>>>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>>>>>> you might want to do something about your childlike lack of self
>>>>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is my childlike lack of self control that has brought me great
>>>>>>>>>>> delight my whole life.. You should try it, sourpuss.
>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: The Boner Troll isn't exactly new.
>>>>>>>>>>> Say what, hon? Try another language. Maybe you will be more
>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is a notorious Usenet troll who for quite a long time posted
>>>>>>>>>> as "Casa Boner".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gosh, that is a long time ago!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I think lots of the current trolls are the same one person.
>>>>>>>> Destructive, annoying, dishonest but intelligent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree and I am starting to recognise him/her)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you emailed them?
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would I email you!
>>>>
>>>> That was the fake Bruce at the end.
>>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> I know))
>>
>> Good
>
>=====
>
> I am getting there)

Yes, lol

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On 3/25/2021 4:27 PM, Pamela wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:14 -0400, % > wrote:
>
>> On 3/25/2021 4:23 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On 3/24/2021 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:14:13 GMT, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20:34Â* 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:29:50 GMT, Pamela >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03:34Â* 24 Mar 2021, Bruce said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If cents are more important than quality, everything's
>>>>>>>> different. Maybe you can find a place where they sell days old
>>>>>>>> bread for even less than $1? Or those big carrots that people
>>>>>>>> buy for their horses? They're cheap too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good to see individual.net is still going strong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Better if Agent lets the newserver use its own qualified domain
>>>>>>> name -- because viewers here can filter for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agent doesn't allow you to filter on news server,
>>>>>
>>>>> however other newsreaders do, such as mine. Agent should be able not to
>>>>> insert 4ax.com for the post's domain name.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what that is. I don't see it. But I might switch to
>>>> Xnews. I've used it before.
>>>>
>>> That's funny!Â* The same guy that used to whine about being
>>> plonked so much is now whining about not being able to plonk.
>>>
>> Yes, and the hypocrite used to morph nyms in order to
>> evade killfilters. He's really butthurt now.
>
> Yes. And he still resorts to morphing when he's desperate for those
> who plonked him to see his cowardly replies.
>
LOL
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