On 2021-03-21 11:17 a.m., Graham wrote:

>> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest.Â* That
>> voice - shudder.
>> Janet US
>>
> I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
> admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!


My uncle took my cousin and me to see it at a theatre in Toronto that
that the cinemascope or whatever the format was that made it special.
About half way through the movie the power went out because of a fire at
a nearby lumber yard, so we got rainchecks to come back and see it the
next night.

On 2021-03-21 11:55 a.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-21 9:51 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>>
>> Neither acid nor the Clarke book could manage that.
>>
> That film and "Eyes wide shut" confirmed, to me at least, that Kubrick
> was over-rated. "EWS" also confirmed that Tom Cruise couldn't act his
> way out of a wet paper bag!

These guys have their idiosyncrosies. Kubrick is pretty good at epic
boredom. David Lean has made some great movies that needed editing. I
just watched Ryan's Daughter for the first time. I don't know how I
missed it before. Great story, incredible scenery. Good thing I had it
PVRed. I lasted about 2 hours before we needed a break. We split it up
into a two nighter.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-21 11:17 a.m., Graham wrote:
>
> >> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
> >> voice - shudder.
> >> Janet US
> >>
> > I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
> > admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
> My uncle took my cousin and me to see it at a theatre in Toronto that
> that the cinemascope or whatever the format was that made it special.
> About half way through the movie the power went out because of a fire at
> a nearby lumber yard, so we got rainchecks to come back and see it the
> next night.

The same exact thing happened to me. It wasn't a movie but it was Jimi Hendrix. The power didn't go out but his amps was humming too much so he walked off stage. I did see him the next night too.
You probably saw it on a Cinerama format/screen. It a process of filming with 3 cameras and 3 synchronized projectors projecting on a wide, curved, screen. It's kind kind of a goofy format. It's kind of disorienting if you get too close to what you're filming around the edges.
I have seen a Blu-ray disk copy of 2001 on a HD TV. It's like seeing the movie for the first time. Stanley Kubrick was a technical perfectionist and the images he captured in his camera was still startling half a century later.

On 2021-03-21 3:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-21 11:55 a.m., Graham wrote:
Â* David Lean has made some great movies that needed editing. I
> just watched Ryan's Daughter for the first time. I don't know how I
> missed it before.Â* Great story, incredible scenery. Good thing I had it
> PVRed. I lasted about 2 hours before we needed a break. We split it up
> into a two nighter.

I also find Lawrence long but it couldn't be shorter and remain faithful
to Lawrence's book. BTW, for a more factual account read "Lawrence *in*
Arabia" by Scott Anderson.

Bruce wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:26:10 -0600, US Janet >
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:59:31 -0500, "cshenk"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Bruce wrote:
> > >
> >>> In Australia, a damper is a type of bread.
> > >
> > > Yup.
> > >
> > > https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16...ralian-damper/
> > >
> > > Suspect that one is a bit puffier?
> >
> > I'm so glad you looked up what damper is in both countries. I've
> > known for decades.
>
> Ouch, the claws come out.

Yup. Along with accusations on my not reading.

LOL, whatever. Either way, I've had Damper in OZ. I'm really not that
interested in folks who haven't had it, commenting on what it is.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:55:48 -0600, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-03-21 9:51 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:49:14 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-03-21 9:34 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:17:52 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-03-21 8:48 a.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:21:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy HAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
>>>>>> voice - shudder.
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
>>>>> admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You should have watched it on LSD like I did. Much better that way, I
>>>> am sure.
>>>>
>>> That would have been the only way to make sense of it:-)
>>
>> Neither acid nor the Clarke book could manage that.
>>
>That film and "Eyes wide shut" confirmed, to me at least, that Kubrick
>was over-rated. "EWS" also confirmed that Tom Cruise couldn't act his
>way out of a wet paper bag!

I have never been a Kubrick fan except for Dr. Strangelove.

Cruise's appeal escapes me.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-21 11:17 a.m., Graham wrote:
>>
>> >> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
>> >> voice - shudder.
>> >> Janet US
>> >>
>> > I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
>> > admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
>> My uncle took my cousin and me to see it at a theatre in Toronto that
>> that the cinemascope or whatever the format was that made it special.
>> About half way through the movie the power went out because of a fire at
>> a nearby lumber yard, so we got rainchecks to come back and see it the
>> next night.
>
>The same exact thing happened to me. It wasn't a movie but it was Jimi Hendrix. The power didn't go out but his amps was humming too much so he walked off stage. I did see him the next night too.
>You probably saw it on a Cinerama format/screen. It a process of filming with 3 cameras and 3 synchronized projectors projecting on a wide, curved, screen. It's kind kind of a goofy format. It's kind of disorienting if you get too close to what you're filming around the edges.
>I have seen a Blu-ray disk copy of 2001 on a HD TV. It's like seeing the movie for the first time. Stanley Kubrick was a technical perfectionist and the images he captured in his camera was still startling half a century later.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e360zRfLKQ

To have seen Hendrix live must be a great memory. DH saw him, too and
loved it. "Beyond expectation" was how he described the concert.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2021-03-21 11:17 a.m., Graham wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
> >> >> voice - shudder.
> >> >> Janet US
> >> >>
> >> > I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
> >> > admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
> >> My uncle took my cousin and me to see it at a theatre in Toronto that
> >> that the cinemascope or whatever the format was that made it special.
> >> About half way through the movie the power went out because of a fire at
> >> a nearby lumber yard, so we got rainchecks to come back and see it the
> >> next night.
> >
> >The same exact thing happened to me. It wasn't a movie but it was Jimi Hendrix. The power didn't go out but his amps was humming too much so he walked off stage. I did see him the next night too.
> >You probably saw it on a Cinerama format/screen. It a process of filming with 3 cameras and 3 synchronized projectors projecting on a wide, curved, screen. It's kind kind of a goofy format. It's kind of disorienting if you get too close to what you're filming around the edges.
> >I have seen a Blu-ray disk copy of 2001 on a HD TV. It's like seeing the movie for the first time. Stanley Kubrick was a technical perfectionist and the images he captured in his camera was still startling half a century later.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e360zRfLKQ
> To have seen Hendrix live must be a great memory. DH saw him, too and
> loved it. "Beyond expectation" was how he described the concert.

I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was going to catch hell.. My parents never said a word. I've always wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.

On 2021-03-21 7:18 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:55:48 -0600, Graham > wrote:
either acid nor the Clarke book could manage that.
>>>
>> That film and "Eyes wide shut" confirmed, to me at least, that Kubrick
>> was over-rated. "EWS" also confirmed that Tom Cruise couldn't act his
>> way out of a wet paper bag!
>
> I have never been a Kubrick fan except for Dr. Strangelove.
>
> Cruise's appeal escapes me.
>


Yeah. I don't get that one either, though he was pretty good in Top Gun.
For the life of me, I could not figure out how they cast him in the part
of Jack Reacher. He could not possibly be more unsuitable for the role.
In case you are unfamiliar with the Reacher books, Jack Reacher is an
ex MP who is 6'5" and 250 lb. He is a huge, muscular man, covered in
scars from wounds and fights. His size is a major factor of the
character. Cruise is a runt who is completely out of place in that role.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:32:09 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-21 7:18 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:55:48 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>either acid nor the Clarke book could manage that.
>>>>
>>> That film and "Eyes wide shut" confirmed, to me at least, that Kubrick
>>> was over-rated. "EWS" also confirmed that Tom Cruise couldn't act his
>>> way out of a wet paper bag!
>>
>> I have never been a Kubrick fan except for Dr. Strangelove.
>>
>> Cruise's appeal escapes me.
>>
>
>
>Yeah. I don't get that one either, though he was pretty good in Top Gun.
>For the life of me, I could not figure out how they cast him in the part
>of Jack Reacher. He could not possibly be more unsuitable for the role.
>In case you are unfamiliar with the Reacher books, Jack Reacher is an
>ex MP who is 6'5" and 250 lb. He is a huge, muscular man, covered in
>scars from wounds and fights. His size is a major factor of the
>character. Cruise is a runt who is completely out of place in that role.

Well, you can't make a blockbuster movie without a hunk, real or
perceived. 250 lb isn't very hunky.

--
The real Bruce posts with Eternal September

On 2021-03-21 7:29 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:

> I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always
> listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was
> going to catch hell. My parents never said a word. I've always
> wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what
> happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the
> guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.
>

I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later. When
I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening act for
the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years later. His
guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-21 7:29 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> > I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always
> > listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was
> > going to catch hell. My parents never said a word. I've always
> > wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what
> > happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the
> > guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.
> >
> I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later. When
> I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening act for
> the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years later. His
> guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.

My understanding is that you couldn't hear the Beatles at a Beatles concerts. That's a shame. Hendrix opened up for that Monkees in 67. That would have been amazing on several different levels.

On 2021-03-21 8:00 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later.
>> When I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening
>> act for the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years
>> later. His guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.
>
> My understanding is that you couldn't hear the Beatles at a Beatles
> concerts. That's a shame.

You understand it correctly. Things had been quite normal throughout the
King Curtis portion of the concert. As soon as the Beatles came out more
than 10,000 teenaged girls started screaming at the top of their lungs.
I never heard a note. Every once in a while McCartney or Lennon would
dance a couple steps and the girls were able to scream even louder. I
lost interest in every going to another major rock concert.



>Hendrix opened up for that Monkees in 67.
> That would have been amazing on several different levels.
>
I just can't imagine him doing his psychodelic music as a prelude to
the Monkees. I can't imagine them drawing the same crowd.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 2:47:55 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-21 8:00 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later.
> >> When I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening
> >> act for the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years
> >> later. His guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.
> >
> > My understanding is that you couldn't hear the Beatles at a Beatles
> > concerts. That's a shame.
> You understand it correctly. Things had been quite normal throughout the
> King Curtis portion of the concert. As soon as the Beatles came out more
> than 10,000 teenaged girls started screaming at the top of their lungs.
> I never heard a note. Every once in a while McCartney or Lennon would
> dance a couple steps and the girls were able to scream even louder. I
> lost interest in every going to another major rock concert.
> >Hendrix opened up for that Monkees in 67.
> > That would have been amazing on several different levels.
> >
> I just can't imagine him doing his psychodelic music as a prelude to
> the Monkees. I can't imagine them drawing the same crowd.

I remember the cute 12 year old girl sitting on the table across from me describing it. 12 to 14 year old girls would have been the target audience for the Monkees. She didn't get to see Hendrix but she seemed to be really happy about the whole thing. It was a experience alright - just not that experience. I probably didn't know who Hendrix was at the time anyway.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:29:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On 2021-03-21 11:17 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
>> >> >> voice - shudder.
>> >> >> Janet US
>> >> >>
>> >> > I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
>> >> > admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
>> >> My uncle took my cousin and me to see it at a theatre in Toronto that
>> >> that the cinemascope or whatever the format was that made it special.
>> >> About half way through the movie the power went out because of a fire at
>> >> a nearby lumber yard, so we got rainchecks to come back and see it the
>> >> next night.
>> >
>> >The same exact thing happened to me. It wasn't a movie but it was Jimi Hendrix. The power didn't go out but his amps was humming too much so he walked off stage. I did see him the next night too.
>> >You probably saw it on a Cinerama format/screen. It a process of filming with 3 cameras and 3 synchronized projectors projecting on a wide, curved, screen. It's kind kind of a goofy format. It's kind of disorienting if you get too close to what you're filming around the edges.
>> >I have seen a Blu-ray disk copy of 2001 on a HD TV. It's like seeing the movie for the first time. Stanley Kubrick was a technical perfectionist and the images he captured in his camera was still startling half a century later.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e360zRfLKQ
>> To have seen Hendrix live must be a great memory. DH saw him, too and
>> loved it. "Beyond expectation" was how he described the concert.
>
>I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was going to catch hell. My parents never said a word. I've always wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.

It is good to feel that way about parents.

My dad helped me and my sister get tickets for the first Beatles
concert we saw. Granted, it was one of the few nice things he did, but
I still think fondly of it.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-21 7:29 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> > I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always
>> > listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was
>> > going to catch hell. My parents never said a word. I've always
>> > wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what
>> > happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the
>> > guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.
>> >
>> I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later. When
>> I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening act for
>> the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years later. His
>> guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.
>
>My understanding is that you couldn't hear the Beatles at a Beatles concerts. That's a shame.

True for both of the ones I saw and both were in relatively small
venues...Hockey arena size and I sat pretty close for each concert.
Concert systems were really not very good in those days and there
actually was a lot of screaming going on.

Worst sound system I ever experienced at a concert, though, was within
the last 15 years- I took one of the kids to see Dylan. Godawful
balance.

>Hendrix opened up for that Monkees in 67. That would have been amazing on several different levels.

I am sure.

On 2021-03-21 9:19 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 2:47:55 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I just can't imagine him doing his psychodelic music as a prelude
>> to the Monkees. I can't imagine them drawing the same crowd.
>
> I remember the cute 12 year old girl sitting on the table across from
> me describing it. 12 to 14 year old girls would have been the target
> audience for the Monkees. She didn't get to see Hendrix but she
> seemed to be really happy about the whole thing. It was a experience
> alright - just not that experience. I probably didn't know who
> Hendrix was at the time anyway.
>

Hendrix had had a hard time in the US and headed to the UK for a while.
He was all but unknown in the US when he opened for the Monkees.

An experience? and Hendrix sang... not just stoned but experienced.

On 2021-03-21 7:39 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-21 7:29 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>
>>>> I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always
>>>> listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was
>>>> going to catch hell. My parents never said a word. I've always
>>>> wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what
>>>> happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the
>>>> guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.
>>>>
>>> I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later. When
>>> I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening act for
>>> the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years later. His
>>> guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.
>>
>> My understanding is that you couldn't hear the Beatles at a Beatles concerts. That's a shame.
>
> True for both of the ones I saw and both were in relatively small
> venues...Hockey arena size and I sat pretty close for each concert.
> Concert systems were really not very good in those days and there
> actually was a lot of screaming going on.
>
My sister and her friend saw them just as they were becoming famous.
They actually met them walking in the street earlier that day.
At uni, the ents committee managed to book every top 10 group (and I
mean every) with the exception of the Beatles for our Saturday night
dances. It wasn't the money! Brian Epstein, their manager, wouldn't
allow them to play because we couldn't supply enough security.

On 2021 Mar 21, , Graham wrote
(in article >):

> I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
> admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!

Yet, if you hadn´t seen the movie, you would have missed at least a
thousand references to HAL throughout your life. It was money well spent.

Here´s looking at you, kid.
Badges? We don´t need no stinkin´ badges
You know how to whistle, don´t you? Just put your lips together and
blow.
Ask yourself. Do you feel lucky? Well, do you punk?
Gentlemen! You can´t fight in here. This is the War Room! + "precious
bodily fluids".
Feed me, Seymour!
Frankly, my dear, I don´t give a damn.
Round up the usual suspects.
Rosebud.
etc.

Graham wrote:
> My sister and her friend saw them just as they were becoming famous.
> They actually met them walking in the street earlier that day.

Was that street "Abbey Road" by any chance?

Just last night on MeTV at 9:30pm eastern, was an old "best of" Ed
Sullivan show. According to the tv guide, old Beatles performed. I
believe his show was the debut of them to the USA. And yes, mostly heard
was many young girls screaming.

I saw that on tv back in the early 60's when it was first aired and I
liked them.

One Christmas, my presents were my first stereo and 2 Beatles albums...
"Meet the Beatles" and "2nd Album." I still have them.

Anyway, I was looking forward to that show last night. Sadly, I fell
asleep about 10 minutes before it started and woke up only 10 minutes
after it ended. Arrghh! Just my luck.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 21:48:13 -0600, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-03-21 7:39 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:42:13 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-03-21 7:29 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:22:02 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I disobeyed my parents to see Hendrix on a Sunday night. I always
>>>>> listened to my parents except for this one time. I thought I was
>>>>> going to catch hell. My parents never said a word. I've always
>>>>> wondered about that. It took me many decades to figure out what
>>>>> happened. It was because they supported me in my learning to play the
>>>>> guitar - they always did. That was an awesome thing to realize.
>>>>>
>>>> I saw Hendrix and never realized it until more than 30 years later. When
>>>> I was 14 I went to a Beatles concert in Toronto. The opening act for
>>>> the Beatles was King Curtis. Curtis was killed a few years later. His
>>>> guitarist on that tour was Jimi Hendrix.
>>>
>>> My understanding is that you couldn't hear the Beatles at a Beatles concerts. That's a shame.
>>
>> True for both of the ones I saw and both were in relatively small
>> venues...Hockey arena size and I sat pretty close for each concert.
>> Concert systems were really not very good in those days and there
>> actually was a lot of screaming going on.
>>
>My sister and her friend saw them just as they were becoming famous.
>They actually met them walking in the street earlier that day.
>At uni, the ents committee managed to book every top 10 group (and I
>mean every) with the exception of the Beatles for our Saturday night
>dances. It wasn't the money! Brian Epstein, their manager, wouldn't
>allow them to play because we couldn't supply enough security.


Big thrill of my teen years was getting to spend 10 minutes with the
Beatles before their 1966 concert in Detroit. Friends had raised a lot
of charity money in honor of the Beatles and a radio station and some
others facilitated it all.

They were very kind to 4 stranger teenage girls. Polite, funny,
engaging.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 03:19:07 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2021 Mar 21, , Graham wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
>> admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
>
>Yet, if you hadn´t seen the movie, you would have missed at least a
>thousand references to HAL throughout your life. It was money well spent.

Clarke published a book afterwards, so HAL could have been known from
that, or from any of a gazillion parodies over the years.

Same with most of the other movie quotes you indicated. These things
burrow into pop culture and often stand on their own to folks who have
no idea of their origins.

On 3/21/2021 1:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 5:18:05 AM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-03-21 8:48 a.m., US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:21:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:27:51 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 02:00:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 7:57:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:11:59 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:37:21 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In Australia, a damper is a type of bread.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You might want to describe that better, eh?
>>>>>>>> It's already been done for me:
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damper_(food)>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> The real Bruce posts with Eternal September
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a large, simple, biscuit baked in a primitive way - not that there's
>>>>>>> anything wrong with that. Well, excepting maybe that your country
>>>>>>> has been nuked and you've got a hankering for bread - any kind of
>>>>>>> bread in the worst way!
>>>>>>> To the Brits, a damper is what the Americans call a "shock absorbed" in a car.
>>>>>>> To the Americans, "damper" is what you call a pile of clothes
>>>>>>> that is not as dry as another pile of clothes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The absence of any kind of textual clue forces me to assume you're not making a joke.
>>>>> You talk like a robot.
>>>>
>>>> The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy HAL
>>>
>>> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
>>> voice - shudder.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I saw that movie when it first came out. I still regret spending that
>> admission money. What a lousy, over-rated film!
>
> I saw it when it came out too. I didn't spend nothing because my mom took me to see it. I can't say if she took me to it because she wanted to see it or if she wanted me to see it. We did not discuss the movie afterwards but I sure wish I got to spend more time with her these days.

The book was actually good but the movie was a big letdown. It did win a
"visual effects" award though.

I read the book first so I knew the story. Someone that first watched
the movie probably didn't know the story behind the movie.

On 2021-03-22 6:04 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Â*Graham wrote:
>> My sister and her friend saw them just as they were becoming famous.
>> They actually met them walking in the street earlier that day.
>
> Was that street "Abbey Road" by any chance?Â*
>
No! just the local town.
It was just before Beatlemania took over.

Gary wrote:
> The book was actually good but the movie was a big letdown. It did win a
> "visual effects" award though.
>
> I read the book first so I knew the story. Someone that first watched
> the movie probably didn't know the story behind the movie.

As a followup to what I just said,
I see that the movie did come out first at theaters.

I did read the book first then saw it on HBO later probably.
The book was much more detailed as usual and a decent story.

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:35:23 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Gary wrote:
> > The book was actually good but the movie was a big letdown. It did win a
> > "visual effects" award though.
> >
> > I read the book first so I knew the story. Someone that first watched
> > the movie probably didn't know the story behind the movie.
> As a followup to what I just said,
> I see that the movie did come out first at theaters.
>
> I did read the book first then saw it on HBO later probably.
> The book was much more detailed as usual and a decent story.

I read the book after I saw the movie. I can't say if that's a better experience than vice-versa.

On 3/22/2021 1:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:35:23 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> The book was actually good but the movie was a big letdown. It did win a
>>> "visual effects" award though.
>>>
>>> I read the book first so I knew the story. Someone that first watched
>>> the movie probably didn't know the story behind the movie.
>> As a followup to what I just said,
>> I see that the movie did come out first at theaters.
>>
>> I did read the book first then saw it on HBO later probably.
>> The book was much more detailed as usual and a decent story.
>
> I read the book after I saw the movie. I can't say if that's a better experience than vice-versa.
>
Movies always have shortened versions of the books and often change a
bit of the story.

I still have both hardbacks 2001 and 2010 by Arthur C. Clarke.
Been a LONG time since I read them. Maybe it's time to reread. That's
why I keep good books.They would almost be like new books to me after
all these years.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:48:21 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:21:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:27:51 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 02:00:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >> >On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 7:57:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:11:59 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:37:21 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >Bruce wrote:
> >> >> > >> In Australia, a damper is a type of bread.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >You might want to describe that better, eh?
> >> >> > It's already been done for me:
> >> >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damper_(food)>
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > The real Bruce posts with Eternal September
> >> >>
> >> >> It's a large, simple, biscuit baked in a primitive way - not that there's
> >> >> anything wrong with that. Well, excepting maybe that your country
> >> >> has been nuked and you've got a hankering for bread - any kind of
> >> >> bread in the worst way!
> >> >> To the Brits, a damper is what the Americans call a "shock absorbed" in a car.
> >> >> To the Americans, "damper" is what you call a pile of clothes
> >> >> that is not as dry as another pile of clothes.
> >> >
> >> >The absence of any kind of textual clue forces me to assume you're not making a joke.
> >> You talk like a robot.
> >
> >The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.
> >
> >Cindy HAL
> I won't watch that movie again because HAL is the creepiest. That
> voice - shudder.

And the choice of music doesn't help.