Our first night as empty nesters, so I'm making something my son
wouldn't like. It's chicken soup, and here are the veggies going in.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
Two poblanos, two carrots, an onion, a stalk of celery and a red bell
pepper.
There are three chicken breasts in the Power Quick Pot. One will be
saved for my wife for next week lunches, and the other two will be cut
up for the soup. There's about a half a quart of aseptic packaged
chicken stock in the fridge, and I'll also throw in some broken jasmine
rice.

OK, everything is in the pot but the chicken for another 30 minutes.
Then, I'll quick release the steam, add the chopped chicken, and however
much water, and give it another 2 minutes on pressure. There's plenty
to take over to my in-laws tomorrow.

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For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

On 3/13/2021 5:10 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
> Our first night as empty nesters, so I'm making something my son
> wouldn't like. It's chicken soup, and here are the veggies going in.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
>
> Two poblanos, two carrots, an onion, a stalk of celery and a red bell
> pepper.
> There are three chicken breasts in the Power Quick Pot. One will be
> saved for my wife for next week lunches, and the other two will be cut
> up for the soup. There's about a half a quart of aseptic packaged
> chicken stock in the fridge, and I'll also throw in some broken jasmine
> rice.
>
> OK, everything is in the pot but the chicken for another 30 minutes.
> Then, I'll quick release the steam, add the chopped chicken, and however
> much water, and give it another 2 minutes on pressure. There's plenty to
> take over to my in-laws tomorrow.
>

I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
half, even when I give some away.

On 3/13/2021 10:39 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/13/2021 5:10 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>> Our first night as empty nesters, so I'm making something my son
>> wouldn't like. It's chicken soup, and here are the veggies going in.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
>>
>>
>> Two poblanos, two carrots, an onion, a stalk of celery and a red bell
>> pepper.
>> There are three chicken breasts in the Power Quick Pot. One will be
>> saved for my wife for next week lunches, and the other two will be cut
>> up for the soup. There's about a half a quart of aseptic packaged
>> chicken stock in the fridge, and I'll also throw in some broken jasmine
>> rice.
>>
>> OK, everything is in the pot but the chicken for another 30 minutes.
>> Then, I'll quick release the steam, add the chopped chicken, and however
>> much water, and give it another 2 minutes on pressure. There's plenty to
>> take over to my in-laws tomorrow.
>>
>
> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul.Â* Grandma taught me to
> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
> soup bones.Â* I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
> depression era family of 8"... lol.Â* Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
> half, even when I give some away.
>
You could halve the soup by going to ONE soup bone. The soup I made
would have been improved by double the poblanos, and or the addition
of a serrano. Also, 32 oz of boxed chicken stock in stead of 16 oz +
16 oz water. I'm going to start making beef soups soon, the first
being one with barley.

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For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

Michael Trew wrote:
....
> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
> half, even when I give some away.

we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.

don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
when freezing and then you can break the jars.


songbird

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:08:54 -0400, songbird >
wrote:

>Michael Trew wrote:
>...
>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
>> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
>> half, even when I give some away.
>
> we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
>we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.
>
> don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
>when freezing and then you can break the jars.
> songbird

Very risky freezing anything in glass.
Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
wastes little freezer space.

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:07:30 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
....
> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
> wastes little freezer space.

I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the delicious.


John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the delicious.
>
>
> John Kuthe,

Is that sentence supposed to mean something?

Jill

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:48:06 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the delicious.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe,
>>
>> Is that sentence supposed to mean something?
>
> Good question. I'm intrigued by the one quotation mark.
>

That's to balance the brain cell count.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:48:06 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the delicious.
>>
>>
>> John Kuthe,
>
>Is that sentence supposed to mean something?

Good question. I'm intrigued by the one quotation mark.

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 15:49:47 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:48:06 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the
>>>> delicious.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe,
>>>
>>> Is that sentence supposed to mean something?
>>
>> Good question. I'm intrigued by the one quotation mark.
>>
>>
> That's to balance the brain cell count.

When he says he "put his baked beans", basic information theory shows
that he did not say where he put them. Since this a cooking newsgroup, I
suggest that he ate them after overloading them with garlic and mustard.

So 12 hours from now, Bruce will be around to check.

On 3/14/2021 1:01 PM, Babbling Shit-for-brains KOOKthe wrote:

> I
Cease breathing. There's your cure, asshole.

NOBODY GIVES A ****, YOU SHIT-EATING ****TARD!

You need to be permanently disqualified from all future employment,
you vile sick loser.

THIS ISN'T YOUR PERSONAL MESSAGE BOARD, YOU BRAINDEAD ****TARD!

NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR CHILDISH GARBAGE, SHIT-FOR_BRAINS!

You're still an unemployable failure and always will be!

You are a waste of air.

Nobody gives a shit about your house.
Nobody gives a shit about your sound system.
Nobody gives a shit about your car.
Nobody gives a shit about your exercise.
Nobody gives a shit about your weather.
Nobody gives a shit about your chronic unemployment.
Nobody gives a shit about your mental illness.
Nobody gives a shit about your feeble attempts at "cooking."
Nobody gives a shit about your pointless pathetic "obsessions."
Nobody gives a shit about your life.

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOU. SHUT THE **** UP AND LEAVE!

Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 15:49:47 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:48:06 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the
>>>>> delicious.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe,
>>>>
>>>> Is that sentence supposed to mean something?
>>>
>>> Good question. I'm intrigued by the one quotation mark.
>>>
>>>
>> That's to balance the brain cell count.
>
> When he says he "put his baked beans", basic information theory shows
> that he did not say where he put them. Since this a cooking newsgroup, I
> suggest that he ate them after overloading them with garlic and mustard.
>
> So 12 hours from now, Bruce will be around to check.
>

The master is drooling already.

On 3/14/2021 7:52 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
> On 3/13/2021 10:39 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/13/2021 5:10 PM, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>> Our first night as empty nesters, so I'm making something my son
>>> wouldn't like. It's chicken soup, and here are the veggies going in.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
>>>
>>>
>>> Two poblanos, two carrots, an onion, a stalk of celery and a red bell
>>> pepper.
>>> There are three chicken breasts in the Power Quick Pot. One will be
>>> saved for my wife for next week lunches, and the other two will be cut
>>> up for the soup. There's about a half a quart of aseptic packaged
>>> chicken stock in the fridge, and I'll also throw in some broken jasmine
>>> rice.
>>>
>>> OK, everything is in the pot but the chicken for another 30 minutes.
>>> Then, I'll quick release the steam, add the chopped chicken, and however
>>> much water, and give it another 2 minutes on pressure. There's plenty to
>>> take over to my in-laws tomorrow.
>>>
>>
>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of
>> beef soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and
>> a half, even when I give some away.
> >
> You could halve the soup by going to ONE soup bone. The soup I made
> would have been improved by double the poblanos, and or the addition
> of a serrano. Also, 32 oz of boxed chicken stock in stead of 16 oz +
> 16 oz water. I'm going to start making beef soups soon, the first
> being one with barley.
>

I well might try to halve it. However, I've never bought commercial
stock and don't plan on trying. That takes all the fun and health out
of it

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 9:47:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:

> I well might try to halve it. However, I've never bought commercial
> stock and don't plan on trying. That takes all the fun and health out
> of it

What "health"? Any stock is mostly water.

Unless you believe in the magic of "bone broth".

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:48:06 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the delicious.
>>
>>
>> John Kuthe,
>
>Is that sentence supposed to mean something?
>
>Jill

Kootchie put baked beans into his nether orifice.

On 3/14/2021 12:07 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:08:54 -0400, songbird >
> wrote:
>
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>> ...
>>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
>>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
>>> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
>>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
>>> half, even when I give some away.
>>
>> we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
>> we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.
>>
>> don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
>> when freezing and then you can break the jars.
>> songbird
>
> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
> wastes little freezer space.
>
I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
last and last.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 10:20:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/14/2021 12:07 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:08:54 -0400, songbird >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
>>>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
>>>> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
>>>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
>>>> half, even when I give some away.
>>>
>>> we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
>>> we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.
>>>
>>> don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
>>> when freezing and then you can break the jars.
>>> songbird
>>
>> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
>> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
>> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
>> wastes little freezer space.
>>
>I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
>Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
>last and last.

I buy food storage containers from Amazon, usually 4-6 in a pack. I
buy an extra pack because invaribly some will eventually crack. I've
never tasted the plastic... billions of soft drink bottles are plastic
and they impart no taste... even metal cans are lined with plastic and
I've never detected any plastic taste. There are all sorts of foods
that are sold in plastic containers that I wash, reuse, never noticed
a plastic taste. Most every fast food joint sells their mystery crap
in plastic containers... styrofoam is plastic.
As an aside I can remember when there were no plastic containers,
people brought their own glass jars to shop. Today most foods that
were once sold in glass are now sold in plastic. I notice no plastic
taste but I don't like the shapes they choose, designed with a very
narrow neck so it's not possible to get the last dregs... I slice
those in half with a sharp paring knife.
The one that irks me the most is the Guldens mustard container, used
to be an iconic shaped wide mouthed glass jar that was recogized
worldwide... now it's in a very narrow necked plastic squeeeze bottle
that could contain any shampoo... and obviously to use that as a
squeeze bottle the mustard needed to be watered down... the product is
no longer the same, slides right off a hotdog. The Gulden's imbeciles
responsible for approving that pinhead design need to be fired
immediately.

On 3/15/2021 4:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 9:47:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> I well might try to halve it. However, I've never bought commercial
>> stock and don't plan on trying. That takes all the fun and health out
>> of it
>
> What "health"? Any stock is mostly water.
>
> Unless you believe in the magic of "bone broth".
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Something like that! Truth be told, almost anything store bought that
isn't a raw material gives me the heebie-jeebies. Grandma's way is the
best way!

On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 3/14/2021 12:07 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:08:54 -0400, songbird >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
>>>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of beef
>>>> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
>>>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week and a
>>>> half, even when I give some away.
>>>
>>> we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
>>> we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.
>>>
>>> don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
>>> when freezing and then you can break the jars.
>>> songbird
>>
>> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
>> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
>> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
>> wastes little freezer space.
>>
> I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
> Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
> last and last.
>
>

I hate plastic, and avoid it at all costs. The only time I cheat with
plastic is for freezing things. I buy and store in glass whenever I
can, including glass Heinz ketchup bottles.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 16:48:06 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/14/2021 4:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> I just put my "Baked Beans which are really sweet hot beans and the delicious.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe,
>>
>> Is that sentence supposed to mean something?
>>
>> Jill
>
> Kootchie put baked beans into his nether orifice.
>

So yoose could enjoy sucking them out, Popeye.

On 3/15/2021 1:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

>>
>>
>
> I hate plastic, and avoid it at all costs.* The only time I cheat with
> plastic is for freezing things.* I buy and store in glass whenever I
> can, including glass Heinz ketchup bottles.

Biggest problem with plastics is people. Too many people are slobs.

Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing floating
in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to generate
electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 1:20:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/15/2021 4:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 9:47:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> >> I well might try to halve it. However, I've never bought commercial
> >> stock and don't plan on trying. That takes all the fun and health out
> >> of it
> >
> > What "health"? Any stock is mostly water.
> >
> > Unless you believe in the magic of "bone broth".
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> Something like that! Truth be told, almost anything store bought that
> isn't a raw material gives me the heebie-jeebies. Grandma's way is the
> best way!

Hard to argue with. In an ideal world, I'd make all my own stock. But I live
in the real world and have multiple demands on my time, so some store-bought
things find their way into my pantry. I make homemade stock for applications
where its taste is paramount, but packaged broth is good enough for my weekly
(or biweekly) vegetable soup.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-03-15 3:19 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 1:20:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
best way!
>
> Hard to argue with. In an ideal world, I'd make all my own stock. But I live
> in the real world and have multiple demands on my time, so some store-bought
> things find their way into my pantry. I make homemade stock for applications
> where its taste is paramount, but packaged broth is good enough for my weekly
> (or biweekly) vegetable soup.

My low sodium diet involves a number of recipes where low sodium broth
is often used to boost the flavour without adding salt. I used anywhere
from a 1/4 cup to 1 cup. If I have a bunch leftover I can heat it up
with some extras and call it soup. It is like a lot of other things,
better if home made, but often not worth the effort.

On 2021-03-15 2:24 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Biggest problem with plastics is people.* Too many people are slobs.
>
> Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing floating
> in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to generate
> electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.

The single biggest cause of litter around here is plastic water bottles.
Personally I have little use for bottled water and can't figure out why
people insist on buying those small bottles instead of drinking tap
water. Out local tap water is excellent. The least they could do would
be to dispose of them into a proper receptacle instead of throwing them
onto the shoulder of the road or into a ditch.


I take water with me when I am kayaking, bicycling or out on the
motorcycle, and sometimes when I am travelling in the car, but I fill up
re-usable bottles at home.

On 2021-03-15 2:30 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-15 2:24 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Biggest problem with plastics is people.* Too many people are slobs.
>>
>> Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing
>> floating in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to
>> generate electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.
>
> The single biggest cause of litter around here is plastic water bottles.
> Personally I have little use for bottled water and can't figure out why
> people insist on buying those small bottles instead of drinking tap
> water. Out local tap water is excellent. The least they could do would
> be to dispose of them into a proper receptacle instead of throwing them
> onto the shoulder of the road or into a ditch.
>
>
> I take water with me when I am kayaking, bicycling or out on the
> motorcycle, and sometimes when I am travelling in the car, but I fill up
> re-usable bottles at home.

More than once, when out on my bike, I've had to discard a bottle of tap
water due to the unpleasant taste. Standing the water in advance has had
little effect. The degree of chlorination seems to be unpredictable so I
fill my bike bottles with commercially bottled water.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:30:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-15 2:24 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Biggest problem with plastics is people.Â* Too many people are slobs.
>>
>> Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing floating
>> in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to generate
>> electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.
>
>The single biggest cause of litter around here is plastic water bottles.
>Personally I have little use for bottled water and can't figure out why
>people insist on buying those small bottles instead of drinking tap
>water. Out local tap water is excellent. The least they could do would
>be to dispose of them into a proper receptacle instead of throwing them
>onto the shoulder of the road or into a ditch.
>
>
>I take water with me when I am kayaking, bicycling or out on the
>motorcycle, and sometimes when I am travelling in the car, but I fill up
>re-usable bottles at home.

Sounds like it's time for a letter to the local newspaper.

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On 3/15/2021 4:47 PM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-15 2:30 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-15 2:24 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> Biggest problem with plastics is people.* Too many people are slobs.
>>>
>>> Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing
>>> floating in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to
>>> generate electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.
>>
>> The single biggest cause of litter around here is plastic water
>> bottles. Personally I have little use for bottled water and can't
>> figure out why people insist on buying those small bottles instead of
>> drinking tap water. Out local tap water is excellent. The least they
>> could do would be to dispose of them into a proper receptacle instead
>> of throwing them onto the shoulder of the road or into a ditch.
>>
>>
>> I take water with me when I am kayaking, bicycling or out on the
>> motorcycle, and sometimes when I am travelling in the car, but I fill
>> up re-usable bottles at home.
>
> More than once, when out on my bike, I've had to discard a bottle of tap
> water due to the unpleasant taste. Standing the water in advance has had
> little effect. The degree of chlorination seems to be unpredictable so I
> fill my bike bottles with commercially bottled water.

I filter drinking water. I have an insulated stainless steel bottle and
put in ice, fill with water and it lasts a long time.

I do buy a 12 pack of plastic about once a year. I freeze four and take
them in my small cooler to keep some snacks cold and eventually drink
them. They last me the 1200 miles each way.

Hope to make the trip again in 4 to 6 weeks.

On 2021-03-15 4:47 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-15 2:30 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> I take water with me when I am kayaking, bicycling or out on the
>> motorcycle, and sometimes when I am travelling in the car, but I fill
>> up re-usable bottles at home.
>
> More than once, when out on my bike, I've had to discard a bottle of tap
> water due to the unpleasant taste. Standing the water in advance has had
> little effect. The degree of chlorination seems to be unpredictable so I
> fill my bike bottles with commercially bottled water.

Maybe you should try a Brita or some other filter, let it sit longer or
even boiling it. A number of places around here sell reverse osmosis
filtered water. You can get 4 and 8L jugs of water in groceries stores
and use those to fill re-usable containers. Buying water in 8-12oz
bottles is an expensive way to buy water, and those are the size of
water bottles that litter our streets..... them and Tim Hortons cups.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:30:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-03-15 2:24 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> Biggest problem with plastics is people.Â* Too many people are slobs.
>>>
>>> Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing floating
>>> in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to generate
>>> electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.
>>
>> The single biggest cause of litter around here is plastic water bottles.
>> Personally I have little use for bottled water and can't figure out why
>> people insist on buying those small bottles instead of drinking tap
>> water. Out local tap water is excellent. The least they could do would
>> be to dispose of them into a proper receptacle instead of throwing them
>> onto the shoulder of the road or into a ditch.
>>
>>
>> I take water with me when I am kayaking, bicycling or out on the
>> motorcycle, and sometimes when I am travelling in the car, but I fill up
>> re-usable bottles at home.
>
> Sounds like it's time for a letter to the local newspaper.
>

How did that smell master? Was it good for you?

On 3/15/2021 1:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Gary wrote:
>> On 3/14/2021 12:07 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:08:54 -0400, songbird >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
>>>>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of
>>>>> beef
>>>>> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
>>>>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week
>>>>> and a
>>>>> half, even when I give some away.
>>>>
>>>> we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
>>>> we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.
>>>>
>>>> don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
>>>> when freezing and then you can break the jars.
>>>> songbird
>>>
>>> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
>>> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
>>> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
>>> wastes little freezer space.
>>>
>> I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
>> Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
>> last and last.
>>
>>
>
> I hate plastic, and avoid it at all costs.* The only time I cheat with
> plastic is for freezing things.* I buy and store in glass whenever I
> can, including glass Heinz ketchup bottles.

Yeah, but songbird *freezes* things in glass jars. I'll store lots of
things in the refrigerator in glass but I will not freeze things like
soups or stock in glass jars. Nope.

Jill

On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 21:10:41 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/15/2021 1:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2021 12:07 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

>>>>
>>>> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
>>>> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
>>>> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
>>>> wastes little freezer space.
>>>>
>>> I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
>>> Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
>>> last and last.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I hate plastic, and avoid it at all costs.Â* The only time I cheat with
>> plastic is for freezing things.Â* I buy and store in glass whenever I
>> can, including glass Heinz ketchup bottles.
>
>Yeah, but songbird *freezes* things in glass jars. I'll store lots of
>things in the refrigerator in glass but I will not freeze things like
>soups or stock in glass jars. Nope.

Jill McQuown, for all your strong statements.

--
The real Bruce posts with Eternal September

On 3/15/2021 3:19 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 1:20:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 3/15/2021 4:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 9:47:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>>> I well might try to halve it. However, I've never bought commercial
>>>> stock and don't plan on trying. That takes all the fun and health out
>>>> of it
>>>
>>> What "health"? Any stock is mostly water.
>>>
>>> Unless you believe in the magic of "bone broth".
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> Something like that! Truth be told, almost anything store bought that
>> isn't a raw material gives me the heebie-jeebies. Grandma's way is the
>> best way!
>
> Hard to argue with. In an ideal world, I'd make all my own stock. But I live
> in the real world and have multiple demands on my time, so some store-bought
> things find their way into my pantry. I make homemade stock for applications
> where its taste is paramount, but packaged broth is good enough for my weekly
> (or biweekly) vegetable soup.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
The only thing I miss about working full time would be the paycheck. I
work 6 days per week, off Saturdays, but only work 2-4 hour shifts. If
I worked 40+ hours per week, I probably wouldn't do everything the "old
way".

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 9:10:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 3/15/2021 1:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> On 3/14/2021 12:07 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:08:54 -0400, songbird >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michael Trew wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> I can't seem to cook soup small to save my soul. Grandma taught me to
> >>>>> make vegetable soup in a 16 qt stockpot, starting with a couple of
> >>>>> beef
> >>>>> soup bones. I could sum up my cooking style as "feeding a great
> >>>>> depression era family of 8"... lol. Hey, the soup lasts me a week
> >>>>> and a
> >>>>> half, even when I give some away.
> >>>>
> >>>> we freeze it in portions so we can have it later when
> >>>> we want. since i hate plastic we use quart canning jars.
> >>>>
> >>>> don't fill quart jars over 3/4 full as water expands
> >>>> when freezing and then you can break the jars.
> >>>> songbird
> >>>
> >>> Very risky freezing anything in glass.
> >>> Quality plastic containers are very safe and are reusable many
> >>> times... I use square and rectangular containers, stacked like bricks
> >>> wastes little freezer space.
> >>>
> >> I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
> >> Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
> >> last and last.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I hate plastic, and avoid it at all costs. The only time I cheat with
> > plastic is for freezing things. I buy and store in glass whenever I
> > can, including glass Heinz ketchup bottles.
> Yeah, but songbird *freezes* things in glass jars. I'll store lots of
> things in the refrigerator in glass but I will not freeze things like
> soups or stock in glass jars. Nope.

Good. Maybe metal pots are the best policy.

On 2021 Mar 15, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in >):

> Unless you believe in the magic of "bone broth".

Ooh! Ooh! I get it. I was searching for beef BtB ;-) today, and it was hard
to find. They had vegetable and chicken BtB in quantity. I had to stand back
and really peruse the shelf. For the first time ever, I saw "bone
broth".
While searching the shelves, I backed into a lazy susan in the center of the
aisle that contained a whole lot of BtB on sale. I searched for and found one
jar that was labelled "roasted beef", and I bought it.
Until today, I wouldn´t have known what you were talking about.

leo

On 3/15/2021 2:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/15/2021 1:22 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I hate plastic, and avoid it at all costs. The only time I cheat with
>> plastic is for freezing things. I buy and store in glass whenever I
>> can, including glass Heinz ketchup bottles.
>
> Biggest problem with plastics is people. Too many people are slobs.
>
> Properly used and handled there should be little waste, nothing floating
> in the oceans. Most can be recycled or used as a fuel to generate
> electricity. Most plastics contain 18,000 Btu per pound.

All the plastics in the oceans are way beyond normal for individual
people to be causing the problem.

I've always suspected the trash disposal industry and they should be
investigated.

We used to send much of our trash to China for disposal. That's
container ships full of trash sailing to China. Depending on how the
payments were handled, it leaves a good opportunity for the shipping
companies to dump a lot of that trash at sea.

My theory is that the container ships get paid enough for transportation
AND paying China a portion of that money to pay for disposal.

They could dump many containers at sea, then have to pay less to China
and pocket the illegal extra money. Any food trash will be eaten by the
sea critters, all the metal trash will sink to the bottom, leaving all
the plastic products that float and end up on shores.

They could even use those empty containers to transport other goods from
point to point if they stopped along the way.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. Beach goers and private boaters
aren't causing all this plastic in the ocean problem.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> In an ideal world, I'd make all my own stock. But I live
> in the real world and have multiple demands on my time, so some store-bought
> things find their way into my pantry. I make homemade stock for applications
> where its taste is paramount, but packaged broth is good enough for my weekly
> (or biweekly) vegetable soup.

So easy and little time to make your own though if you use a crock pot.
Takes about 10 minutes to put meat and saved veggie scraps in the pot.
Top it off with water, put on a lid and set it to low and forget about
it until the next morning.

Next morning, pour through a colander into a larger pot and let it cool.
Save in pint sized containers with lids.

Dave Smith wrote:
> My low sodium diet involves a number of recipes where low sodium broth
> is often used to boost the flavour without adding salt.

Dumb comment. Low sodium broth does contain extra salt.
Make your own for flavor with little or no salt.

Gary wrote:
....
> I agree but keep in mind, Songbird can taste plastic for some reason.
> Many of my frozen foods are saved in plastic containers with lids. They
> last and last.

if i take the ground garlic drenched with lemon juice and put
it into plastic of any kind when i remove that from the freezer
to use those containers will smell of garlic even after being
washed and soaked with bleach water.

using small glass canning jars, once they are washed once
i can't smell garlic at all.

smell and taste are very interlinked.

i use pint jars for the strawberries i freeze and they come
out perfect as long as the strawberries are not fermenting. i
did a batch one season where the berries were starting to
ferment and i hoped that the temperature of the freezer would
stop the ferment. it didn't. when i started using them up
the lids would pop off from so much pressure when i took the
rings off. didn't taste good so i fed those to the worms.

if you don't overfill glass jars they won't break. it's
not risky when you know what you're doing.


songbird

jmcquown wrote:
....
> Yeah, but songbird *freezes* things in glass jars. I'll store lots of
> things in the refrigerator in glass but I will not freeze things like
> soups or stock in glass jars. Nope.

if you leave space for expansion good quality jars won't break.
i use canning jars. no problem at all.

i did have to train Mom to not overfill jars because she'd do
that and then i'd have to rescue contents from cracked jars. oh
well. just rinse the frozen chunks off, warm them up and eat
them as i would any other item.


songbird

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 8:11:37 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > In an ideal world, I'd make all my own stock. But I live
> > in the real world and have multiple demands on my time, so some store-bought
> > things find their way into my pantry. I make homemade stock for applications
> > where its taste is paramount, but packaged broth is good enough for my weekly
> > (or biweekly) vegetable soup.
> So easy and little time to make your own though if you use a crock pot.
> Takes about 10 minutes to put meat and saved veggie scraps in the pot.
> Top it off with water, put on a lid and set it to low and forget about
> it until the next morning.

Raw pork? Cucumber peels? Lettuce ribs? What kind of crappy stock
is that?

This weekend I'll roast a turkey and make stock from it.

Cindy Hamilton