I had some leftover torillas, refreed black beans, guacamole and pico de
gallo to use up. The perfect solution was heuvos rancheros.

Wow. They were fantastic. There may be enough left for another lunch,
but the guacamole is turning brown. Maybe I could just use some sliced
avocado instead.

On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 12:54:48 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> I had some leftover torillas, refreed black beans, guacamole and pico de
> gallo to use up. The perfect solution was heuvos rancheros.
>
> Wow. They were fantastic. There may be enough left for another lunch,
> but the guacamole is turning brown. Maybe I could just use some sliced
> avocado instead.

Quesadilla here. Flour tortillas, pepperjack cheese, salsa, and shredded
iceberg lettuce.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I had some leftover torillas, refreed black beans, guacamole and pico de
> gallo to use up. The perfect solution was heuvos rancheros.
>
Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.

On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > I had some leftover torillas, refreed black beans, guacamole and pico de
> > gallo to use up. The perfect solution was heuvos rancheros.
> >
> Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
> and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.

That's terrible. No Jelly?

On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> > Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
> > and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
> >
> That's terrible. No Jelly?
>
Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
>> > and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
>> >
>> That's terrible. No Jelly?
>>
>Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.

It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.

--
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On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
> >> > and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
> >> >
> >> That's terrible. No Jelly?
> >>
> >Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.
> >
> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>
Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't stand that
instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
>> >> > and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
>> >> >
>> >> That's terrible. No Jelly?
>> >>
>> >Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.
>> >
>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>
> Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't stand that
>instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.

But are American products obliged to state when they're pre-sweetened
or is it always assumed?

--
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On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:38:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
> > > and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
> > >
> > That's terrible. No Jelly?
>
> Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.

Because most people can't get enough sweets. Ever. After that, they then get this massive tankard of soda that lasts them until the evening while smoking 4 or 5 packs of cigarettes a day.

wrote:
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
>>> and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
>>>
>> That's terrible. No Jelly?
>>
> Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.

How do you make your oatmeal, Joan?
So many make oatmeal differently.
My mother makes it plain and then adds a bit of milk to the top in the bowl.

Mine is:
- one cup of dry rolled oats
- pinch of salt
- small handful of raisins (not measured)
- 2 cups of water (or maybe a bit more)

Cook until done then add to a bowl that contains:
- 2 TBS butter
- 2 TBS brown sugar

Once all is in the bowl, fold it all a few times. Don't completely mix
it all together.

Naturally, that makes even more than I want sometimes. Recipe can be halved.

On 3/18/2021 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I had some leftover torillas, refreed black beans, guacamole and pico de
> gallo to use up. The perfect solution was heuvos rancheros.
>
> Wow. They were fantastic. There may be enough left for another lunch,
> but the guacamole is turning brown. Maybe I could just use some sliced
> avocado instead.

For leftover guacomole, just cover it with plastic wrap. Press it right
on to the guacamole to keep the air off.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:30:32 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
> >>> and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
> >>>
> >> That's terrible. No Jelly?
> >>
> > Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.
> How do you make your oatmeal, Joan?
> So many make oatmeal differently.
> My mother makes it plain and then adds a bit of milk to the top in the bowl.
>
> Mine is:
> - one cup of dry rolled oats
> - pinch of salt
> - small handful of raisins (not measured)
> - 2 cups of water (or maybe a bit more)
>
> Cook until done then add to a bowl that contains:
> - 2 TBS butter
> - 2 TBS brown sugar
>
> Once all is in the bowl, fold it all a few times. Don't completely mix
> it all together.
>
> Naturally, that makes even more than I want sometimes. Recipe can be halved.

Mine is
2/3 cup dry quick oats
Between 1/4 and 1/2 teaspoon salt
1 cup water
small handful of raisins
Microwave for 2.5 minutes
Add 1 teaspoon butter and 2 teaspoons brown sugar. Mix thoroughly.

That's just about the right quantity for my 5:30 am breakfast,
after a 12-hour fast.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>
>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>
> Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't stand that
> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>

I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
sweetening.

bruce bowser wrote:
> Because most people can't get enough sweets. Ever.
> After that, they then get this massive tankard of soda
> thatlasts them until the evening while smoking
> 4 or 5 packs of cigarettes a day.

Oh hell yeah!
Switch the soda with beer and I'm in.
Where do I sign up?

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Well, I had brunch I guess but it was just really a late breakfast. Oatmeal
>>> >> > and two pieces of buttered toast with a bit of coffee.
>>> >> >
>>> >> That's terrible. No Jelly?
>>> >>
>>> >Nope, the oatmeal was sweet enough.
>>> >
>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>
>> Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't stand that
>>instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>
> But are American products obliged to state when they're pre-sweetened
> or is it always assumed?

it can vary by state as to what local laws might be like for
unregulated or smaller kitchens and products produced, however for
the larger commercial quantity sorts of things a nutrition lable and
ingredients list is required.


songbird

On 2021-03-19 9:36 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 3/18/2021 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> I had some leftover torillas, refreed black beans, guacamole and pico de
>> gallo to use up. The perfect solution was heuvos rancheros.
>>
>> Wow. They were fantastic. There may be enough left for another lunch,
>> but the guacamole is turning brown. Maybe I could just use some sliced
>> avocado instead.
>
> For leftover guacomole, just cover it with plastic wrap. Press it right
> on to the guacamole to keep the air off.
>
>

Good idea. I can't complain too loudly because my wife cleans up and she
put it in a bowl with plastic wrap sealed across the top. I thought the
lime juice would stop it from turning brown.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 10:04:50 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> bruce bowser wrote:
> > Because most people can't get enough sweets. Ever.
> > After that, they then get this massive tankard of soda
> > thatlasts them until the evening while smoking
> > 4 or 5 packs of cigarettes a day.
>
> Oh hell yeah!
> Switch the soda with beer and I'm in.
> Where do I sign up?

We're talking an every day sugar addiction dealy. Not just a weekend binge.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 05:01:28 -0700, bruce bowser wrote:

> Because most people can't get enough sweets. Ever. After that, they then
> get this massive tankard of soda that lasts them until the evening while

Ahh, that brings back sweet memories of childhood. And then, shooting
insects with our pellet guns and putting stuff in the campfire to see
what would explode.

On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>
>> Â* Nope.Â* Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook.Â* I can't
>> stand that
>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>
>
> I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
> sweetening.
>
I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one of
Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?

Jill

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM UTC-4, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 05:01:28 -0700, bruce bowser wrote:
>
> > Because most people can't get enough sweets. Ever. After that, they then
> > get this massive tankard of soda that lasts them until the evening while
>
> Ahh, that brings back sweet memories of childhood. And then, shooting
> insects with our pellet guns and putting stuff in the campfire to see
> what would explode.

I'm curious as to how many kids successfully made neutron bombs or particle beams in their back yards. That's the big and bad stuff, you know.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 12:13:30 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM UTC-4, Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 05:01:28 -0700, bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> > > Because most people can't get enough sweets. Ever. After that, they then
> > > get this massive tankard of soda that lasts them until the evening while
> >
> > Ahh, that brings back sweet memories of childhood. And then, shooting
> > insects with our pellet guns and putting stuff in the campfire to see
> > what would explode.
>
> I'm curious as to how many kids successfully made neutron bombs or particle beams in their back yards. That's the big and bad stuff, you know.

I left Navy ROTC when I found out how big and bad the particle beams was to aircraft.

On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>>
>>> Â* Nope.Â* Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook.Â* I can't
>>> stand that
>>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>>
>>
>> I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
>> sweetening.
>>
> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal.Â* Is this one of
> Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
>


I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the flavour.
In the list of ingredients it is the third item.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 11:54:55 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
> >> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
> >>>
> >> Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't
> >> stand that
> >> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
> >>
> >
> > I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
> > sweetening.
> >
> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one of
> Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?

Instant oatmeal is pre-sweetened:

INGREDIENTS: WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, SUGAR, SALT, CINNAMON AND OTHER SPICES, CALCIUM CARBONATE, GUAR GUM, CARAMEL COLOR, NIACINAMIDE*, REDUCED IRON, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*. QUAKER INSTANT OATMEAL REGULAR FLAVOR €“

At least everything after "caramel color" is added vitamins.

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>>>
>>>> Â* Nope.Â* Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook.Â* I
>>>> can't stand that
>>>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
>>> sweetening.
>>>
>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal.Â* Is this one
>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
>>
>
>
> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the flavour.
> In the list of ingredients it is the third item.

Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
consumes massive amounts of sugar. On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.

Jill

On 3/19/2021 1:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 11:54:55 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>>>
>>>> Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't
>>>> stand that
>>>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
>>> sweetening.
>>>
>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one of
>> Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
>
> Instant oatmeal is pre-sweetened:
>
> INGREDIENTS: WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, SUGAR, SALT, CINNAMON AND OTHER SPICES, CALCIUM CARBONATE, GUAR GUM, CARAMEL COLOR, NIACINAMIDE*, REDUCED IRON, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*. QUAKER INSTANT OATMEAL REGULAR FLAVOR €“
>
> At least everything after "caramel color" is added vitamins.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Thanks! I have never tried "instant oatmeal".

Jill

On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:

>>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal.Â* Is this one
>>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
>> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
>> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
>
> Thanks for looking that up.Â* I've never bought any "flavoured instant
> oatmeal".Â* It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
> consumes massive amounts of sugar.

I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
how many of them are sweetened.

I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.



>On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
> I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
> called "sweet".Â* I actually like the taste of oats.
>

I love the taste of oats.

Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
because they got so excited over it.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:55:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one
> >>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
> >> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
> >> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
> >
> > Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
> > oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
> > consumes massive amounts of sugar.
> I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
> American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
> will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
> Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
> how many of them are sweetened.
>
> I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
> instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.
> >On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
> > I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
> > called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.
> >
> I love the taste of oats.
>
> Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
> because they got so excited over it.

When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:07:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:55:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > >>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one
> > >>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
> > >> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
> > >> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
> > >
> > > Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
> > > oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
> > > consumes massive amounts of sugar.
> > I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
> > American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
> > will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
> > Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
> > how many of them are sweetened.
> >
> > I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
> > instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.
> > >On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
> > > I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
> > > called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.
> > >
> > I love the taste of oats.
> >
> > Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
> > because they got so excited over it.
> When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.

Real oatmeal is cheaper, fast if you plan ahead, and can be made in the office
microwave. It's good.

Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/19/2021 1:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal I add a bit of brown sugar to it
>> but not to the point it could really be called "sweet".Â* I actually
>> like the taste of oats.
>>
>
> I love the taste of oats.
>
I think I got my like (not necessarily love) of the taste of oats from
my Mom's Scottish parents. Grandpa had to have his 'parritch' every
morning. It was probably Quaker Rolled Oats; steel cut wouldn't have
been a thing they could find in a small town in Ohio in the 1920's or,
when we were there in 1971. One tiny grocery store in a tiny town.

Fast forward... my mother made oatmeal for my brothers and I when we
were little kids.

I never got into the habit of eating oatmeal for breakfast as an adult.
I like it well enough, I simply don't think about it when it comes to
breakfast. Hot cereal. Heck, I don't even eat grits all that often.

I'd much rather have eggs and toast. Sometimes bacon, sometimes sausage.

> Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
> because they got so excited over it.
>
I've never been around horses but I did know that factoid from watching
some old television Westerns. "Give 'em extra oats." LOL

Jill

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 8:34:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:07:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:55:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > > On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > >>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one
> > > >>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
> > > >> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
> > > >> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
> > > > oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
> > > > consumes massive amounts of sugar.
> > > I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
> > > American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
> > > will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
> > > Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
> > > how many of them are sweetened.
> > >
> > > I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
> > > instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.
> > > >On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
> > > > I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
> > > > called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.
> > > >
> > > I love the taste of oats.
> > >
> > > Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
> > > because they got so excited over it.
> > When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.
> Real oatmeal is cheaper, fast if you plan ahead, and can be made in the office
> microwave. It's good.
>
> Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
> and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
> he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
> upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

If it was cheaper, faster, and good, I would have been doing that very thing. It ain't.

On 3/19/2021 2:34 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:07:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.
>
That's so friggin' sad.

> Real oatmeal is cheaper, fast if you plan ahead, and can be made in the office
> microwave. It's good.
>
I do believe the instructions can be found gee, on the side of the
container of rolled oats. Yeppers!

I'm looking at mine right now. Microwave directions complete with
measurements of water, oats and (optional) salt. One serving: 1 cup
water, 1/2 cup of oats. Place in a 2 cup microwave-safe bowl .
Microwave on High, 1-1/2 to 2 minutes. Stir.

At this point you could add in brown sugar, raisins, drizzle it with
maple syrup, whatever the heck you want. Or simply add a little butter
and eat it without all that jazz. That's a personal choice.

> Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
> and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
> he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
> upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I take it he is supposed to take the medication during the night? I
can't imagine any other reason to get up and eat at midnight.

Jill

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:44:06 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 8:34:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:07:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:55:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one
> > > > >>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
> > > > >> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
> > > > >> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
> > > > > oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
> > > > > consumes massive amounts of sugar.
> > > > I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
> > > > American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
> > > > will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
> > > > Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
> > > > how many of them are sweetened.
> > > >
> > > > I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
> > > > instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.
> > > > >On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
> > > > > I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
> > > > > called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.
> > > > >
> > > > I love the taste of oats.
> > > >
> > > > Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
> > > > because they got so excited over it.
> > > When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.
> > Real oatmeal is cheaper, fast if you plan ahead, and can be made in the office
> > microwave. It's good.
> >
> > Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
> > and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
> > he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
> > upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> If it was cheaper, faster, and good, I would have been doing that very thing. It ain't.

As I said, it requires advance planning.

I cannot fathom how someone as feckless as you had a business.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:51:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:

> > Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
> > and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
> > he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
> > upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I take it he is supposed to take the medication during the night? I
> can't imagine any other reason to get up and eat at midnight.

Yes, he takes it every 6 hours like clockwork. Since he started that
regimen, his pain has been much more manageable.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:55:45 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>
>> Nope. Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook. I can't stand that
>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>
>
>I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
>sweetening.

When you add sugar, you're sweetening it. Duh.

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On 3/19/2021 3:18 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:51:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>>> Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
>>> and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
>>> he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
>>> upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> I take it he is supposed to take the medication during the night? I
>> can't imagine any other reason to get up and eat at midnight.
>
> Yes, he takes it every 6 hours like clockwork. Since he started that
> regimen, his pain has been much more manageable.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
That's a good thing to hear! I'm glad the oatmeal he can prepare ahead
of time assists with not having an upset stomach so he is able to go
back to sleep.

Jill

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:54:42 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>>
>>> Â* Nope.Â* Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook.Â* I can't
>>> stand that
>>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>>
>>
>> I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
>> sweetening.
>>
>I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one of
>Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?

Lol. It's not about Americans specifically. I'd just been looking
online for oat milk powder. It's hard to find and if you do, it's
sweetened.

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:07:23 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/19/2021 9:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-03-19 12:14 a.m., wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 8:34:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was probably pre-sweetened oatmeal.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Â* Nope.Â* Just plain old everyday oatmeal that I had to cook.Â* I
>>>>> can't stand that
>>>>> instant or flavored oatmeal and the smell is horrible.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I add just a little very dark brown sugar for taste. It does not need
>>>> sweetening.
>>>>
>>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal.Â* Is this one
>>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
>> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the flavour.
>> In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
>
>Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
>oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
>consumes massive amounts of sugar.

More than elsewhere in the world.

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:07:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:55:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> > > On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > >> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one
>> > >>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
>> > >> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
>> > >> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
>> > > oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
>> > > consumes massive amounts of sugar.
>> > I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
>> > American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
>> > will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
>> > Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
>> > how many of them are sweetened.
>> >
>> > I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
>> > instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.
>> > >On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
>> > > I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
>> > > called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.
>> > >
>> > I love the taste of oats.
>> >
>> > Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
>> > because they got so excited over it.
>> When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.
>
>Real oatmeal is cheaper, fast if you plan ahead, and can be made in the office
>microwave. It's good.
>
>Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
>and sugar

Ha!

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:36:50 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/19/2021 1:55 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal I add a bit of brown sugar to it
>>> but not to the point it could really be called "sweet".Â* I actually
>>> like the taste of oats.
>>>
>>
>> I love the taste of oats.
>>
>I think I got my like (not necessarily love) of the taste of oats from
>my Mom's Scottish parents.

Are they part horse?

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On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:16:57 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:44:06 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 8:34:06 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 2:07:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:55:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-03-19 1:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > On 3/19/2021 12:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > >> On 2021-03-19 11:54 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> I'm not sure I've ever heard of "pre-sweetened" oatmeal. Is this one
> > > > > >>> of Bruce's random ramblings about how much sugar Americans consume?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I had to check and make sure, but those packages of flavoured instant
> > > > > >> oatmeal do have sugar. 8-10 grams per serving, depending on the
> > > > > >> flavour. In the list of ingredients it is the third item.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for looking that up. I've never bought any "flavoured instant
> > > > > > oatmeal". It's Bruce again pushing his belief everyone in North America
> > > > > > consumes massive amounts of sugar.
> > > > > I had to look it up because I never buy that kind of stuff. I am North
> > > > > American not US American, and I never buy any sweetened cereal, though I
> > > > > will confess that years ago I occasionally enjoyed a bowl of Frosted
> > > > > Flakes. I am disappointed to go through the cold cereal aisle and see
> > > > > how many of them are sweetened.
> > > > >
> > > > > I never buy quick cooking oats because they taste like paste and the
> > > > > instant stuff is even worse. It is large flake or steel ground for me.
> > > > > >On the rare occasions I eat oatmeal
> > > > > > I add a bit of brown sugar to it but not to the point it could really be
> > > > > > called "sweet". I actually like the taste of oats.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I love the taste of oats.
> > > > >
> > > > > Horses love oats too. I used to love feeding it to my friends horses
> > > > > because they got so excited over it.
> > > > When I had a business, I'd eat that instant oatmeal stuff for breakfast. It was dirt cheap and fast and could be made in the office microwave. What it wasn't was good. I could live with that. Two out of three ain't bad.
> > > Real oatmeal is cheaper, fast if you plan ahead, and can be made in the office
> > > microwave. It's good.
> > >
> > > Every afternoon my husband prepares a bowl with some oatmeal, raisins
> > > and sugar in it, and a container with a measured amount of water. At midnight
> > > he wakes up, prepares and eats the oatmeal, takes a Hydrocodone (which
> > > upsets his stomach if it's empty), and goes back to bed.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > If it was cheaper, faster, and good, I would have been doing that very thing. It ain't.
> As I said, it requires advance planning.
>
> I cannot fathom how someone as feckless as you had a business.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I ate breakfast in the office but it had to be cheap and fast. If you had a business, you'd probably spend your time being more concerned about eating rather than the business. I think that sucks.