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On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you feel safe living there??
>>>
>>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
>>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
>>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.

>>
>> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?

>
> Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
> a Trump supporter?


Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.

The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
people started hanging out there.

And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
area.











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On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >>> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
> >>>
> >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
> >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
> >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
> >>
> >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?

> >
> > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
> > a Trump supporter?

> Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
> nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
> Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
>
> The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
> even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
> people started hanging out there.
>
> And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
> often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
> area.



The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"... very squalid and shameful...

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On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > >>> Ophelia wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
> > >>>
> > >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
> > >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
> > >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
> > >>
> > >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?
> > >
> > > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
> > > a Trump supporter?

> > Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
> > nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
> > Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
> >
> > The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
> > even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
> > people started hanging out there.
> >
> > And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
> > often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
> > area.

>
> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...


Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?
(I know you won't answer)
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On 28/03/2021 15:28, Gary wrote:
> On 3/27/2021 6:18 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 27/03/2021 16:02, Gary wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>> I wonder if a bullet from a Derringer rifle has ever backfired.
>>>
>>> I've never heard of a Derringer rifle. I claim the Belgium defense on
>>> that one.
>>>
>>>> When a bullet backfires, does it come out at the other end?
>>>
>>> Hopefully it will if you swallow one.
>>>
>>> In real life, the barrel explodes causing injury or even death to the
>>> shooter.
>>>
>>>

>> ====
>>
>> D.
>>
>> Although if it was a revolver, like a black powder one, it is often the
>> cylinder that bursts rather than the barrel. That can still cause the
>> shooter nasty injuries but because the part that blows up is further
>> from the shooters head it is at least less likely to kill them.
>>

> Thank you to D.* I was thinking more about rifles where the action was
> very close to your face. A hand gun would be held farther away.
>

===

D. agrees))

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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:29:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>I can just envision running across two innocent baby bears that spot me
>and run up just to play with me. Hopping around all happy and playful.
>Try to walk away from them and they just follow you.
>
>Meanwhile, there's a mother bear very nearby that won't have any of that
>nonsense. arrgghh!


I've always remembered this incident:

A report details how a Montana Forest Service law enforcement officer
was killed by a grizzly bear after a bike collision with animal.

In June last year Brad Treat was fatally mauled by a grizzly bear
after accidentally encountering the bear on a bike trail and
surprising and colliding with the bear.
Full speed impact

According the a report into the incident published this week, Treat
and a friend were mountain biking on the Outer Trail of the Green Gate
Trails in the Flathead National Forest sometime around 2pm.

Treat was leading and went into a blind curve at approximately
20-25mph. On the exit of this curve was the bear. There was no sign of
skidding or evasive steering, indicating that Treat impacted the bear
at full speed.

https://www.mbr.co.uk/news/mountain-...ly-bear-357296

Imagine what he was thinking as he rounded that bend.....


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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 18:23:53 +0100, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 28/03/2021 15:28, Gary wrote:
>> On 3/27/2021 6:18 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> On 27/03/2021 16:02, Gary wrote:
>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>> I wonder if a bullet from a Derringer rifle has ever backfired.
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of a Derringer rifle. I claim the Belgium defense on
>>>> that one.
>>>>
>>>>> When a bullet backfires, does it come out at the other end?
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully it will if you swallow one.
>>>>
>>>> In real life, the barrel explodes causing injury or even death to the
>>>> shooter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> Although if it was a revolver, like a black powder one, it is often the
>>> cylinder that bursts rather than the barrel. That can still cause the
>>> shooter nasty injuries but because the part that blows up is further
>>> from the shooters head it is at least less likely to kill them.
>>>

>> Thank you to D.* I was thinking more about rifles where the action was
>> very close to your face. A hand gun would be held farther away.
>>

>===
>
>D. agrees))


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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> > On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>> > >>> Ophelia wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
>> > >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
>> > >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
>> > >>
>> > >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?
>> > >
>> > > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
>> > > a Trump supporter?
>> > Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
>> > nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
>> > Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
>> >
>> > The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
>> > even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
>> > people started hanging out there.
>> >
>> > And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
>> > often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
>> > area.

>>
>> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...

>
>Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?
>(I know you won't answer)


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On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
> >> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >> > On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >> > >>> Ophelia wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
> >> > >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
> >> > >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?
> >> > >
> >> > > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
> >> > > a Trump supporter?
> >> > Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
> >> > nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
> >> > Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
> >> >
> >> > The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
> >> > even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
> >> > people started hanging out there.
> >> >
> >> > And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
> >> > often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
> >> > area.
> >>
> >> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...

> >
> >Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?
> >(I know you won't answer)

>
> I hope you're kidding.


Meanwhile, am I going to get an answer to either question?
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 13:52:50 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> >> > On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >> > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>> >> > >>> Ophelia wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
>> >> > >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
>> >> > >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
>> >> > > a Trump supporter?
>> >> > Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
>> >> > nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
>> >> > Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
>> >> > even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
>> >> > people started hanging out there.
>> >> >
>> >> > And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
>> >> > often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
>> >> > area.
>> >>
>> >> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...
>> >
>> >Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?
>> >(I know you won't answer)

>>
>> I hope you're kidding.

>
>Meanwhile, am I going to get an answer to either question?


You never asked a question.

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On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:56:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 13:52:50 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
> >> >> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >> >> > On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >> >> > >>> Ophelia wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
> >> >> > >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
> >> >> > >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
> >> >> > > a Trump supporter?
> >> >> > Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
> >> >> > nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
> >> >> > Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
> >> >> > even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
> >> >> > people started hanging out there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
> >> >> > often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
> >> >> > area.
> >> >>
> >> >> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...
> >> >
> >> >Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?
> >> >(I know you won't answer)
> >>
> >> I hope you're kidding.

> >
> >Meanwhile, am I going to get an answer to either question?

> You never asked a question.


I say I did.


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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 14:08:49 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:56:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 13:52:50 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
>> >> >> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:31:17 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> >> >> > On 3/27/2021 7:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >> > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> >> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>> >> >> > >>> Ophelia wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>> Do you feel safe living there??
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal to
>> >> >> > >>> see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who get hit
>> >> >> > >>> on the highways, often Shore Drive.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Why then, do Londoners claim that crime in London is worse than NY City?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Maybe because when an American gets killed, there's 50% chance it was
>> >> >> > > a Trump supporter?
>> >> >> > Two black americans were shot and killed right at the oceanfront two
>> >> >> > nights ago. One was shot by a cop who "forgot" to turn on his body cam.
>> >> >> > Oh boy...here we go again. Cop shoots and kills a black.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
>> >> >> > even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
>> >> >> > people started hanging out there.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
>> >> >> > often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
>> >> >> > area.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...
>> >> >
>> >> >Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?
>> >> >(I know you won't answer)
>> >>
>> >> I hope you're kidding.
>> >
>> >Meanwhile, am I going to get an answer to either question?

>> You never asked a question.

>
>I say I did.


I say you hate Trump. At best your 'question' was rhetorical.

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On 2021 Mar 26, , Gary wrote
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> My last kill...a groundhog at 80 yards from an upstairs window in 1979.
> I used a Winchester 30-30. Nice rifle. The groundhog probably had a
> different opinion though.


Model 94.


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bruce bowser wrote:
> GM wrote:


>> Gary wrote:
>>> The Virginia Beach oceanfront used to be a nice and safe family area
>>> even late at night but that changed years ago when many young gang
>>> people started hanging out there.
>>>
>>> And yes...it's mostly young black people. I used to go there at night
>>> often but not now...no way. After dark, it turns into a dangerous getto
>>> area.


>> The US has turned into "Ghetto Nation"...


> Before it voted Trump in 2016? At what exact moment did the US turn into this?


1776
That's when all the trouble makers decided, "Screw England! Let's start
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On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-4, Allan Rogers wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:29:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >I can just envision running across two innocent baby bears that spot me
> >and run up just to play with me. Hopping around all happy and playful.
> >Try to walk away from them and they just follow you.
> >
> >Meanwhile, there's a mother bear very nearby that won't have any of that
> >nonsense. arrgghh!

> I've always remembered this incident:
>
> A report details how a Montana Forest Service law enforcement officer
> was killed by a grizzly bear after a bike collision with animal...


Would you be happy if someone hit you with their bike?
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 06:53:25 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
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>On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-4, Allan Rogers wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:29:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >I can just envision running across two innocent baby bears that spot me
>> >and run up just to play with me. Hopping around all happy and playful.
>> >Try to walk away from them and they just follow you.
>> >
>> >Meanwhile, there's a mother bear very nearby that won't have any of that
>> >nonsense. arrgghh!

>> I've always remembered this incident:
>>
>> A report details how a Montana Forest Service law enforcement officer
>> was killed by a grizzly bear after a bike collision with animal...

>
>Would you be happy if someone hit you with their bike?


If it was a sex starved nymphomaniac, carrying Viagra and cocaine,
then yes. Yes I would.


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Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> > The USA and Canada are a bit more 'wild' than the UK. It's normal
> > to see such randomly. We even get 1-2 bears in Virginia Beach who
> > get hit on the highways, often Shore Drive.

>
> I've NOT seen news about bears getting hit on Shore Drive, but I've
> read about sightings of baby bears running across Shore Drive.
>
> That means they live in the state park where I like to hike in. And
> where there are baby bears, there's also mama and pappa bears.
>
> I've never hiked on the people trails that they have. I like to go
> offline and follow animal trails. Most of the park has no people
> trails and that's the true wilderness of the park.
>
> Not sure I want to do that now with bears out there.
>
> I can just envision running across two innocent baby bears that spot
> me and run up just to play with me. Hopping around all happy and
> playful. Try to walk away from them and they just follow you.
>
> Meanwhile, there's a mother bear very nearby that won't have any of
> that nonsense. arrgghh!


Randomly. It's not always shore drive. Sometimes it's Dam Neck road or
down in Pungo. Best I have recalled, it's normally adults, not
juveniles.
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