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Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
"sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
"sloppy."

Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.

Jill
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
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>Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
>recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
>"sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
>1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
>than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
>"sloppy."
>
>Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
>going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
>have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
>seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
>the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>
>Jill


that was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
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On 3/24/2021 6:34 PM, US Janet wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>> as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
>> than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
>> "sloppy."
>>
>> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
>> going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
>> have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>> all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>> shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>
>> Jill

>
> that was going to be our dinner but it changed to burgers instead
> Janet US
>

The only thing I forgot to do was buy potato chips. Potato chips are
quite nice with sloppy joes (and burgers).

Jill
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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:35:05 PM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
> >Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
> >recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
> >"sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
> >1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
> >Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
> >as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
> >seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
> >tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
> >than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
> >"sloppy."
> >
> >Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
> >white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
> >going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
> >have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
> >As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
> >all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
> >seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
> >the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
> >shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
> >
> >Jill

>
> that was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead


WHOA !! Check that spelling !!
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
>>recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
>>"sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
>>1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>>tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
>>than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>"sloppy."
>>
>>Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
>>going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
>>have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
>>seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
>>the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>
>>Jill

>
>that was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>Janet US


Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
beans.


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On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
>>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
>>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
>>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>> as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
>>> than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>> "sloppy."
>>>
>>> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
>>> going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
>>> have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>> all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
>>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
>>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>> shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> that was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>> Janet US

>
> Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
> beans.
>

Ground chuck (aka "mystery meat"). Very tasty, nicely seasoned. It's
too bad I forgot to buy some potato chips; they go so nicely with sloppy
joes. Oh well, leftovers for the week and I'll buy some chips.

I've got kielbasa in the freezer. I've been thinking it would be nice
to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.

OTOH, I also have Andouille sausage and some of that would add a
different kick to baked mac & cheese. The rest I could use in lentil soup.

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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 5:13:44 PM UTC-5, wrote:
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> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week.
>
> "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
> white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
> going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
> have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>

I'm a white bun girl myself but I do like them toasted as well.
>
> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
> all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.
>
> Jill
>

Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
falling tomato-y meat.
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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:48:53 PM UTC-5, wrote:
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> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> > Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
> > beans.
> >

> I've got kielbasa in the freezer. I've been thinking it would be nice
> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
>
> Jill
>

Kielbasa is good sliced and cooked in turnip greens whether pre-browned
or not and with a skillet of cornbread, too.
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On 3/24/2021 6:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the "sauce"
> doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the 1960's, I
> used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water. Back in the
> 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near as sweet as
> it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add seasonings
> such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8 tsp hot
> sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire than is
> called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little "sloppy."
>
> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft white
> Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're going for
> nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they have more
> texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes. As fun as it
> was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun all over your
> plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely seasoned meat in
> sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top the sandwich (I may
> even have enough appetite for two) with a finely shredded cheese blend.
> There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>
> Jill


Can you post a copy from the original cook book? That sounds delicious,
and probably a lot better than a can of "Manwich".
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On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:13:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
> as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
> than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
> "sloppy."
>
> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
> white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
> going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
> have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
> all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
> shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>
> Jill


Sounds good. I haven't had sloppy joes in ages.

Last night was a wrap: leftover chicken gently reheated with a bunch of
spices to approximate shawarma, rolled up in a warm flour tortilla spread
with hummus, and topped with onions, tomatoes, shredded lettuce and a
little sriracha.

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On 24/03/2021 23:48, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sloppy Joes.Â* I've had a hankering for them for about a week.Â* The base
>>>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook.Â* Difference: the
>>>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water.Â* Like my mother in the
>>>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>>> as sweet as it is these days.Â* I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>>>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs.Â* A little more Worcestershire
>>>> than is called for, too.Â* Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>>> "sloppy."
>>>>
>>>> Here's another difference.Â* "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns.Â* That's all well and good if you're
>>>> going for nostalgia.Â* I'm not.Â* I like whole wheat buns because they
>>>> have more texture.Â* I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>>> all over your plate...Â* I'm not a kid anymore.Â* I'd rather the nicely
>>>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.Â* Oh, and I plan to top
>>>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>>> shredded cheese blend.Â* There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> thatÂ* was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>>> Janet US

>>
>> Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
>> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
>> beans.
>>

> Ground chuck (aka "mystery meat").Â* Very tasty, nicely seasoned.Â* It's
> too bad I forgot to buy some potato chips; they go so nicely with sloppy
> joes.Â* Oh well, leftovers for the week and I'll buy some chips.
>
> I've got kielbasa in the freezer.Â* I've been thinking it would be nice
> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
>
> OTOH, I also have Andouille sausage and some of that would add a
> different kick to baked mac & cheese.Â* The rest I could use in lentil soup.
>
> Jill


===

Sorry, Jill! I think I might have just sent my mail to you

I was just asking if you didn't mind mystery meat? I like to grind my
own. I know what I am getting and it only takes a few minutes

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On 3/25/2021 5:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 24/03/2021 23:48, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sloppy Joes.Â* I've had a hankering for them for about a week.Â* The
>>>>> base
>>>>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook.Â* Difference: the
>>>>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water.Â* Like my mother in the
>>>>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>>>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>>>> as sweet as it is these days.Â* I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>>>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the
>>>>> "1/8
>>>>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs.Â* A little more
>>>>> Worcestershire
>>>>> than is called for, too.Â* Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>>>> "sloppy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another difference.Â* "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>>>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns.Â* That's all well and good if you're
>>>>> going for nostalgia.Â* I'm not.Â* I like whole wheat buns because they
>>>>> have more texture.Â* I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>>>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>>>> all over your plate...Â* I'm not a kid anymore.Â* I'd rather the nicely
>>>>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.Â* Oh, and I plan to top
>>>>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>>>> shredded cheese blend.Â* There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly
>>>>> like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> thatÂ* was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
>>> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
>>> beans.
>>>

>> Ground chuck (aka "mystery meat").Â* Very tasty, nicely seasoned.Â* It's
>> too bad I forgot to buy some potato chips; they go so nicely with
>> sloppy joes.Â* Oh well, leftovers for the week and I'll buy some chips.
>>
>> I've got kielbasa in the freezer.Â* I've been thinking it would be nice
>> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
>>
>> OTOH, I also have Andouille sausage and some of that would add a
>> different kick to baked mac & cheese.Â* The rest I could use in lentil
>> soup.
>>
>> Jill

>
> ===
>
> Â*Sorry, Jill!Â* I think I might have just sent my mail to you
>

You're *STILL* doing that? WTF is wrong with you?!
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:12:38 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:13:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
> > recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
> > "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
> > 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
> > Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
> > as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
> > seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
> > tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
> > than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
> > "sloppy."
> >
> > Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
> > white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
> > going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
> > have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
> > As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
> > all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
> > seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
> > the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
> > shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
> >
> > Jill

> Sounds good. I haven't had sloppy joes in ages.
>
> Last night was a wrap: leftover chicken gently reheated with a bunch of
> spices to approximate shawarma, rolled up in a warm flour tortilla spread
> with hummus, and topped with onions, tomatoes, shredded lettuce and a
> little sriracha.


Shawarma sounds good!
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On 3/24/2021 6:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the
> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the
> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
> as sweet as it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire
> than is called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little
> "sloppy."
>
> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
> white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
> going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
> have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes. As
> fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun all
> over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top
> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
> shredded cheese blend. There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>
> Jill


For the rare sloppy joes here, I just buy a pack of soft buns, pound of
ground beef and a can of the original recipe "Manwich" sauce. They make
a good sauce. The extra chemicals are a bonus.

normally though, I'll make pork bbq sandwiches with the eastern NC
vinegar sauce and topped with plenty of cole slaw.




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> The only thing I forgot to do was buy potato chips. Potato chips are
> quite nice with sloppy joes (and burgers).


I sure do agree with that. Also for bbq sandwiches and sub sandwiches.

I prefer the Lay's Classic. Nice and salty.





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On 3/24/2021 11:00 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/24/2021 6:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the "sauce"
>> doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the 1960's, I
>> used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water. Back in the
>> 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near as sweet as
>> it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add add seasonings
>> such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8 tsp hot
>> sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire than is
>> called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little "sloppy."
>>
>> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft white
>> Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're going for
>> nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they have more
>> texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes. As fun as it
>> was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun all over your
>> plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely seasoned meat in
>> sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top the sandwich (I may
>> even have enough appetite for two) with a finely shredded cheese blend.
>> There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Can you post a copy from the original cook book? That sounds delicious,
> and probably a lot better than a can of "Manwich".


I've tried both over the years. Manwich (original) is better, imo, but
you might think differently. Both Manwich and Campbells tomato soup
feature the bonus extra chemicals.






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>On 24/03/2021 23:48, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sloppy Joes.* I've had a hankering for them for about a week.* The base
>>>>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook.* Difference: the
>>>>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water.* Like my mother in the
>>>>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>>>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>>>> as sweet as it is these days.* I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>>>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>>>>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs.* A little more Worcestershire
>>>>> than is called for, too.* Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>>>> "sloppy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another difference.* "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>>>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns.* That's all well and good if you're
>>>>> going for nostalgia.* I'm not.* I like whole wheat buns because they
>>>>> have more texture.* I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>>>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>>>> all over your plate...* I'm not a kid anymore.* I'd rather the nicely
>>>>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.* Oh, and I plan to top
>>>>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>>>> shredded cheese blend.* There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> that* was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
>>> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
>>> beans.
>>>

>> Ground chuck (aka "mystery meat").* Very tasty, nicely seasoned.* It's
>> too bad I forgot to buy some potato chips; they go so nicely with sloppy
>> joes.* Oh well, leftovers for the week and I'll buy some chips.
>>
>> I've got kielbasa in the freezer.* I've been thinking it would be nice
>> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
>>
>> OTOH, I also have Andouille sausage and some of that would add a
>> different kick to baked mac & cheese.* The rest I could use in lentil soup.
>>
>> Jill

>
>===
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> Sorry, Jill! I think I might have just sent my mail to you
>
> I was just asking if you didn't mind mystery meat? I like to grind my
>own. I know what I am getting and it only takes a few minutes


Home sized electric meat grinders can easily grind two pounds per
minute. I'll typically grind a couple-three 5 pound roasts and fill
my freezer with burgers and bulk packs. It takes me five minutes to
wash the grinder, dry, and put away... I can't see making the effort
for one measly burger. The best part of grinding ones own is it's
perfectly safe to cook rare bugers.
Usually before grinding meat for burgers I'll grind some spuds for
latkes, I prefer latkes to fries and they freeze well, and reheat
well. Grinding potatoes and onions sure beats grating. Slipping a
latke in the bun with your burger is excellent eating.
I own two grinders, the newer is larger so gives a better grind:
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:08:53 -0700 (PDT), "
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>On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 5:13:44 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week.
>>
>> "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're
>> going for nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they
>> have more texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>

>I'm a white bun girl myself but I do like them toasted as well.
>>
>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>> all over your plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely
>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.
>>
>> Jill
>>

>Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
>a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
>falling tomato-y meat.


Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
drippings.
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> Last night was a wrap: leftover chicken gently reheated with a bunch of
> spices to approximate shawarma, rolled up in a warm flour tortilla spread
> with hummus, and topped with onions, tomatoes, shredded lettuce and a
> little sriracha.


Sounds good but just one? I'd go for two or three.






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> Isn't that also the one good with onions and green peppers on italian
> bread? Love those sandwiches.
>
> I store my kielbasa at the grocery store. Always fresh when I'm ready to
> use it.


I prefer smoked kielbasa. I'm not prone to cooking mass quantities and
eating the same thing until it's done, so I portion and freeze the kielbasa.
It's ready every couple of months when the desire for kielbasa overtakes me.

Generally with onions and sauerkraut, either on a sandwich (rye or
pumpernickel) or just on a plate.

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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 9:28:10 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> On 3/25/2021 5:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Last night was a wrap: leftover chicken gently reheated with a bunch of
> > spices to approximate shawarma, rolled up in a warm flour tortilla spread
> > with hummus, and topped with onions, tomatoes, shredded lettuce and a
> > little sriracha.

> Sounds good but just one? I'd go for two or three.


Because that's enough food for me.

It was preceded by a tossed salad that I didn't feel merited discussion.
Lettuce, cucumber, carrot, and radish slices, dressed with lime juice
and EVOO.

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> Sorry, Jill! I think I might have just sent my mail to you
>
> I was just asking if you didn't mind mystery meat? I like to grind my
> own. I know what I am getting and it only takes a few minutes


Well, I don't grind my own meat. As little as I use, wouldn't be worth
the cost of a meat grinder.

And I don't mind the "mystery meat." It's always been quite satisfactory
to me.
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> Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
> drippings.
>

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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:25:22 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
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> On 3/24/2021 8:13 PM, wrote:
> >
> > Kielbasa is good sliced and cooked in turnip greens whether pre-browned
> > or not and with a skillet of cornbread, too.
> >

> Isn't that also the one good with onions and green peppers on italian
> bread? Love those sandwiches.
>

You're thinking of Italian sausages. Spicier and a different flavor and
texture than kielbasa.
>
> I store my kielbasa at the grocery store. Always fresh when I'm ready to
> use it.
>

Mine comes in a vacuum sealed package, it's always fresh no matter how long
it has been hanging out in the refrigerator. The brands with added chicken or
turkey are left at the grocery store.


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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:56:10 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
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> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:08:53 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
> >a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
> >falling tomato-y meat.
> >

> Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
> drippings.
>

No matter how diligent you would be at licking up the drippings, you'd
leave a stain that I would then have to pre-treat before washing. But
thanks for the offer.
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On 25/03/2021 14:00, Gary wrote:
> On 3/25/2021 5:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> Â*Sorry, Jill!Â* I think I might have just sent my mail to you
>>
>> Â*I was just asking if you didn't mind mystery meat? I like to grind my
>> own. I know what I am getting and it only takes a few minutes

>
> Well, I don't grind my own meat. As little as I use, wouldn't be worth
> the cost of a meat grinder.
>
> And I don't mind the "mystery meat." It's always been quite satisfactory
> to me.


===

So long as you are happy))) I have had a grinder for many years,
so it isn't a problem for me)
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>On 24/03/2021 23:48, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sloppy Joes.* I've had a hankering for them for about a week.* The base
>>>>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook.* Difference: the
>>>>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water.* Like my mother in the
>>>>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>>>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>>>> as sweet as it is these days.* I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>>>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8
>>>>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs.* A little more Worcestershire
>>>>> than is called for, too.* Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>>>> "sloppy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another difference.* "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>>>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns.* That's all well and good if you're
>>>>> going for nostalgia.* I'm not.* I like whole wheat buns because they
>>>>> have more texture.* I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>>>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>>>> all over your plate...* I'm not a kid anymore.* I'd rather the nicely
>>>>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.* Oh, and I plan to top
>>>>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>>>> shredded cheese blend.* There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> that* was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
>>> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
>>> beans.
>>>

>> Ground chuck (aka "mystery meat").* Very tasty, nicely seasoned.* It's
>> too bad I forgot to buy some potato chips; they go so nicely with sloppy
>> joes.* Oh well, leftovers for the week and I'll buy some chips.
>>
>> I've got kielbasa in the freezer.* I've been thinking it would be nice
>> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
>>
>> OTOH, I also have Andouille sausage and some of that would add a
>> different kick to baked mac & cheese.* The rest I could use in lentil soup.
>>
>> Jill

>
>===
>
> Sorry, Jill! I think I might have just sent my mail to you


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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:43:44 -0700 (PDT), "
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>On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:25:22 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> On 3/24/2021 8:13 PM, wrote:
>> >
>> > Kielbasa is good sliced and cooked in turnip greens whether pre-browned
>> > or not and with a skillet of cornbread, too.
>> >

>> Isn't that also the one good with onions and green peppers on italian
>> bread? Love those sandwiches.
>>

>You're thinking of Italian sausages. Spicier and a different flavor and
>texture than kielbasa.
>>
>> I store my kielbasa at the grocery store. Always fresh when I'm ready to
>> use it.
>>

>Mine comes in a vacuum sealed package, it's always fresh no matter how long
>it has been hanging out in the refrigerator.


Not true. They can be refrigerated for a short time, perhaps up to
two weeks, but otherise they need to be frozen, and that's only good
up to three months. When you buy that sausage be sure to check the
sell/use by date. All that type of provisions have a short shelf
life, bacon should only be frozen up to three months. And they are
not really vacuum sealed,they only have as much air as possible
manually pressed out so more can fit into the fridge/freezer. The
only difference between kielbasa and Italian saw-seege are the herbs
and spices. Don't load your freezer with either unless you want to
risk becoming deathly ill, or dying. People die all the time from
consuming old frozen meats and provisions... always check the dates
and if not sure toss. Also often those dates are meaningless because
those products are very often left at room temperature for longer than
is safe... many stupidmarkets are very lacksidaisical about proper
food storage. That's why I do my own meat grinding. Anyone who
doesn't grind their own meat is no kind of cook. For many decades no
one has gotten sick from Vienna Sausage or SPAM. Lunch today was
sliced SPAM on Jewish rye bread.

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On Thu, joannotjoann wrote:
>On Thursday, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 joan wrote:
>>
>> >Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
>> >a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
>> >falling tomato-y meat.
>> >

>> Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
>> drippings.
>>

>No matter how diligent you would be at licking up the drippings, you'd
>leave a stain that I would then have to pre-treat before washing. But
>thanks for the offer.


No shirt no stains, thanks for the invite... any time, Joanne, I'd be
pleased to lick your parts clean.


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>On Thu, joannotjoann wrote:
>>On Thursday, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 joan wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
>>> >a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
>>> >falling tomato-y meat.
>>> >
>>> Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
>>> drippings.
>>>

>>No matter how diligent you would be at licking up the drippings, you'd
>>leave a stain that I would then have to pre-treat before washing. But
>>thanks for the offer.

>
>No shirt no stains, thanks for the invite... any time, Joanne, I'd be
>pleased to lick your parts clean.


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On 3/25/2021 4:34 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, joannotjoann wrote:
>> On Thursday, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 joan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
>>>> a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
>>>> falling tomato-y meat.
>>>>
>>> Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
>>> drippings.
>>>

>> No matter how diligent you would be at licking up the drippings, you'd
>> leave a stain that I would then have to pre-treat before washing. But
>> thanks for the offer.

>
> No shirt no stains, thanks for the invite... any time, Joanne, I'd be
> pleased to lick your parts clean.
>

How could anyone resist?!

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On 3/25/2021 5:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 24/03/2021 23:48, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:34:59 -0600, US Janet >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sloppy Joes.Â* I've had a hankering for them for about a week.Â* The
>>>>> base
>>>>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook.Â* Difference: the
>>>>> "sauce" doesn't start with ketchup and water.Â* Like my mother in the
>>>>> 1960's, I used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water.
>>>>> Back in the 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near
>>>>> as sweet as it is these days.Â* I cut it with a bit of soda and add add
>>>>> seasonings such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the
>>>>> "1/8
>>>>> tsp hot sauce" to a couple of good glugs.Â* A little more
>>>>> Worcestershire
>>>>> than is called for, too.Â* Simmering it down until it's still a little
>>>>> "sloppy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another difference.Â* "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft
>>>>> white Wonder-type hamburger buns.Â* That's all well and good if you're
>>>>> going for nostalgia.Â* I'm not.Â* I like whole wheat buns because they
>>>>> have more texture.Â* I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes.
>>>>> As fun as it was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun
>>>>> all over your plate...Â* I'm not a kid anymore.Â* I'd rather the nicely
>>>>> seasoned meat in sauce mostly stay in the bun.Â* Oh, and I plan to top
>>>>> the sandwich (I may even have enough appetite for two) with a finely
>>>>> shredded cheese blend.Â* There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly
>>>>> like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> thatÂ* was going to be our dinner but it changed to bugers instead
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Jill didn't say what meat, at least you had bugers! lol
>>> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
>>> beans.
>>>

>> Ground chuck (aka "mystery meat").Â* Very tasty, nicely seasoned.Â* It's
>> too bad I forgot to buy some potato chips; they go so nicely with
>> sloppy joes.Â* Oh well, leftovers for the week and I'll buy some chips.
>>
>> I've got kielbasa in the freezer.Â* I've been thinking it would be nice
>> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
>>
>> OTOH, I also have Andouille sausage and some of that would add a
>> different kick to baked mac & cheese.Â* The rest I could use in lentil
>> soup.
>>
>> Jill

>
> ===
>
> Â*Sorry, Jill!Â* I think I might have just sent my mail to you
>
> Â*I was just asking if you didn't mind mystery meat? I like to grind my
> own. I know what I am getting and it only takes a few minutes
>

I don't mind because I don't use a lot of ground meat, beef or
otherwise. I trust the butcher at the grocery store to grind and label
the different cuts (chuck, round, etc.) properly and to clean the
grinder between grinding different things. I do own a grinder and if I
find a great deal on something like chuck roasts I will occasionally
grind it myself and portion it out for the freezer.

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On 3/24/2021 11:00 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 3/24/2021 6:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Sloppy Joes. I've had a hankering for them for about a week. The base
>> recipe comes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook. Difference: the "sauce"
>> doesn't start with ketchup and water. Like my mother in the 1960's, I
>> used a 10.5 oz can of tomato soup cut with a little water. Back in the
>> 60's when Mom made this I doubt the soup was anywhere near as sweet as
>> it is these days. I cut it with a bit of soda and add seasonings
>> such as dried thyme, cayenne pepper and I increased the "1/8 tsp hot
>> sauce" to a couple of good glugs. A little more Worcestershire than is
>> called for, too. Simmering it down until it's still a little "sloppy."
>>
>> Here's another difference. "Traditional" sloppy joes call for soft white
>> Wonder-type hamburger buns. That's all well and good if you're going for
>> nostalgia. I'm not. I like whole wheat buns because they have more
>> texture. I also like them lightly toasted for sloppy joes. As fun as it
>> was as a kid to eat food that was falling out of the bun all over your
>> plate... I'm not a kid anymore. I'd rather the nicely seasoned meat in
>> sauce mostly stay in the bun. Oh, and I plan to top the sandwich (I may
>> even have enough appetite for two) with a finely shredded cheese blend.
>> There's a Tex-Mex blend I particularly like.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Can you post a copy from the original cook book?Â* That sounds delicious,
> and probably a lot better than a can of "Manwich".


It's on the Betty Crocker website (although I did use an actual old
cookbook). Here's the tiny URL:

https://tinyurl.com/3ebkn4yd

My eyes completely skipped over the 'dry mustard' in the ingredients
list. Still tasted great.

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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:34:39 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
> wrote:
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>> On Thu, joannotjoann wrote:
>>> On Thursday, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 joan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they can be messy and I just conquer that problem by eating mine with
>>>>> a knife and fork. It saves me having to treat a stain on my shirt from the
>>>>> falling tomato-y meat.
>>>>>
>>>> Why bother with a shirt, I'll be pleased to lick up all your
>>>> drippings.
>>>>
>>> No matter how diligent you would be at licking up the drippings, you'd
>>> leave a stain that I would then have to pre-treat before washing. But
>>> thanks for the offer.

>>
>> No shirt no stains, thanks for the invite... any time, Joanne, I'd be
>> pleased to lick your parts clean.

>
> Wow, an RFC romance.
>


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>My eyes completely skipped over the 'dry mustard' in the ingredients
>list. Still tasted great.
>
>Jill
>

Do you not like dry mustard as an ingredient, or just missed it in the
list?

I think I have a can of Coleman's at the back of the spice cabinet,
and though I recall it as a common ingredient from when I was growing
up, I do not even recall the last time I needed it.

I should probably just toss what is there.
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> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:38:01 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> My eyes completely skipped over the 'dry mustard' in the ingredients
>> list. Still tasted great.
>>
>> Jill
>>

> Do you not like dry mustard as an ingredient, or just missed it in the
> list?
>

I missed it in the list! I do have dry mustard in the cupboard. I was
doing a quick and dirty read of the recipe since I haven't made Sloppy
Joes in a while.

> I think I have a can of Coleman's at the back of the spice cabinet,
> and though I recall it as a common ingredient from when I was growing
> up, I do not even recall the last time I needed it.
>
> I should probably just toss what is there.
>

I couldn't tell you the age of the can of dry mustard I have. LOL It's
not an ingredient I use a lot. It probably wouldn't have made any
difference in the taste.

Jill
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 6:51:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 3/24/2021 8:13 PM, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:48:53 PM UTC-5, wrote:
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> >> On 3/24/2021 7:27 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Our dinner wasn't any better, Hillshire Kilbasa and Bushes canned
> >>> beans.
> >>>
> >> I've got kielbasa in the freezer. I've been thinking it would be nice
> >> to dice some of it and add it to baked mac & cheese.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>

> > Kielbasa is good sliced and cooked in turnip greens whether pre-browned
> > or not and with a skillet of cornbread, too.
> >

> I don't cook turnip greens very often.


They're great with smoked ham and rice. Simmered all in the same pot
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On 3/25/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote:
> I store my kielbasa at the grocery store. Always fresh when I'm ready to
> use it.
>

I don't think I've ever seen "fresh" kielbasa. The stuff Sheldon (he
mentioned Hillshire Farms), Joan and I were talking about is vacuum
sealed so it lasts a very long time in the refrigerator. If you open
the package and only use a portion, it should still be fine for quite a
while. It's not raw sausage.

Jill

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