On 2021-03-26 3:52 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:29:50 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>

>> We usually have lamb for Easter. We usually host my brother and his
>> wife and we do a glazed peameal for him and we have lamb. This weekend
>> we are going to their place for Easter. so no lamb?
>
> So... *Next* weekend (the real Easter) you can skip making him his
> peameal ham and just cook lamb for yourselves. Sounds like a
> win-win. You get free peameal ham and the next weekend you get to
> cook just lamb for yourselves on Easter.
>

Son of a gun. You're right. Okay... so next weekend we go to my
brother's. And t think that I was so proud of myself for remembering to
pick up chocolates for my wife yesterday afternoon.

That was a strange experience. I don't know if I want to go back to our
local chocolatier. I selected the chocolates and the woman asked if it
was a gift and would I like it gift wrapped. Yes it was and yes I would.
She went to the back room. I was way at the front and there are 4
women between me and her and she called back.... "Excuse me sir, but is
this for a man or a woman?"......Wow, it must me 2021 that she would
even ask that.

On 2021-03-26 4:38 a.m., bruce bowser wrote:
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 1:30:59 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:41:32 -0400, Boron Elgar
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:29:50 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-03-25 11:24 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:42:37 -0400, Boron Elgar
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds wonderful. I love lamb. The whole meal suits me. Call me next
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> We usually have lamb for Easter. We usually host my brother and his
>>>> wife and we do a glazed peameal for him and we have lamb. This weekend
>>>> we are going to their place for Easter. so no lamb?
>>>
>>> I really have to get the zoom seder together
>> Wouldn't that be something? LOL
>> Janet US
>
> Setter? Sender?
>


Seder, just like she spelled it.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:49:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-25 11:41 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:29:50 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>
>>> We usually have lamb for Easter. We usually host my brother and his
>>> wife and we do a glazed peameal for him and we have lamb. This weekend
>>> we are going to their place for Easter. so no lamb?
>>
>> I really have to get the zoom seder together
>>
>
>On the radio this morning they had an interview with a woman who was
>organizing one for her family.


One makes do.

On 26/03/2021 09:08, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 26/03/2021 08:45, Bruce wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 1:30:59 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:41:32 -0400, Boron Elgar
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> I really have to get the zoom seder together
>>>> Wouldn't that be something? LOL
>>>
>>> Setter?Â* Sender?
>>
>> I googled. Seder is a Jewish ritual and these days, one could be
>> inclined to celebrate it virtually, via software called Zoom. The
>> American equivalent might be to have McDonalds takeaway together and
>> throw French fries at each other.
>>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQON0ipv6iI>


===

Brilliant) Thnks for posting it)

On 3/26/2021 9:56 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-26 3:52 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:29:50 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>
>>> We usually have lamb for Easter.Â* We usually host my brother and his
>>> wife and we do a glazed peameal for him and we have lamb. This weekend
>>> we are going to their place for Easter. so no lamb?
>>
>> So... *Next* weekend (the real Easter) you canÂ* skip making him his
>> peameal ham and just cook lamb for yourselves. SoundsÂ* like a
>> win-win.Â* You get free peameal ham and the next weekend you get to
>> cook just lamb for yourselves on Easter.
>>
>
> Son of a gun.Â* You're right. Okay... so next weekend we go to my
> brother's. And t think that I was so proud of myself for remembering to
> pick up chocolates for my wife yesterday afternoon.
>
> That was a strange experience. I don't know if I want to go back to our
> local chocolatier. I selected the chocolates and the woman asked if it
> was a gift and would I like it gift wrapped. Yes it was and yes I would.
> Â*She went to the back room.Â* I was way at the front and there are 4
> women between me and her and she called back.... "Excuse me sir, but is
> this for a man or a woman?"......Wow, it must me 2021 that she would
> even ask that.

What if you had replied "non-binary"?

Jill

On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >

> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>
> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>
> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.


But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?

On 3/26/2021 7:20 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>
>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>
>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>
>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>
>
> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>
>
>
>
>
>


Never mind that. Now you can enjoy your bacon.

On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>
>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>
>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>
>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>
>
> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>
That's more of a Hanukah food.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:20:08 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>
>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>
>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>
>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>
>
>But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>
>
>
More traditional at Chanukah, but why not? Latkes are great and
fulfill the dietary requirements of Passover ,

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:24:40 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>
>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>
>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>
>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>
>>
>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>
>That's more of a Hanukah food.

Yup, though potatoes are often incorporated into the meal in sides.

On 3/26/2021 10:29 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:20:08 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>
>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>
>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>
>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>
>>
>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>
>>
>>
> More traditional at Chanukah, but why not? Latkes are great and
> fulfill the dietary requirements of Passover ,
>
>
I'm sort of picturing a Cook-a-Long (from the old RFC days) via Zoom
rather than chat, with appropriate Seder food.

Jill

On 3/26/2021 5:08 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQON0ipv6iI>

That was fun! I forwarded the link to my boss, who is Jewish, and he
laughed.

Jill

On 26/03/2021 14:30, Boron Elgar wrote
> > wrote:
>> On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>
>> That's more of a Hanukah food.
>
> Yup, though potatoes are often incorporated into the meal in sides.
>
I know a mixed-background family which serves baked ham and latkes at Xmas.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 26/03/2021 14:30, Boron Elgar wrote
>> > wrote:
>>> On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>>
>>> That's more of a Hanukah food.
>>
>> Yup, though potatoes are often incorporated into the meal in sides.
>>
>I know a mixed-background family which serves baked ham and latkes at Xmas.

Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
gatherings.

Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!

No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:37:14 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/26/2021 10:29 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:20:08 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>
>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>
>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>
>>>
>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> More traditional at Chanukah, but why not? Latkes are great and
>> fulfill the dietary requirements of Passover ,
>>
>>
>I'm sort of picturing a Cook-a-Long (from the old RFC days) via Zoom
>rather than chat, with appropriate Seder food.
>
>Jill

Cook alongs could be fun.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:22:22 AM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/26/2021 7:20 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
> >
> >> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
> >>
> >> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
> >>
> >> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
> >> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
> >> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
> >> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
> >
> >
> > But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>
> Never mind that. Now you can enjoy your bacon.

Impossible bacon? Impossible pork?

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:39:30 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:05:58 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:52:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 3/25/2021 7:42 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>
>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>
>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>>
>>>Sounds wonderful! When I was looking at the meat counter last week I
>>>couldn't find any lamb at all. I'm hoping as Easter approaches it will
>>>start showing up.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> Leg, chops and rack are always around the markets here. Must have to
>> do with local tastes. I can usually get lamb breast, too.
>>
>> I would think they would be around this week- one of the standard
>> Easter mains.
>
>Not here. The big Mexican Catholic communities here are into Cabrito
>as their Easter meat. Lamb is always for sale in limited
>quantities, but they mostly don't eat it.
>
>-sw

Goat shows up at Cash and Carry every year at this time as well as
larger cuts of lamb.
Janet US

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:17:53 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:41:32 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:29:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2021-03-25 11:24 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:42:37 -0400, Boron Elgar
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds wonderful. I love lamb. The whole meal suits me. Call me next
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We usually have lamb for Easter. We usually host my brother and his
>>>>wife and we do a glazed peameal for him and we have lamb. This weekend
>>>>we are going to their place for Easter. so no lamb?
>>>
>>>I really have to get the zoom seder together
>>
>>Wouldn't that be something? LOL
>>Janet US
>
>They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>
>https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>
>Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.

I just didn't think that would be done -- but why not? Everything is
virtual today.
Janet US

On 2021-03-26 10:24 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>
>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>
>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>
>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>
>>
>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>
> That's more of a Hanukah food.

Yes, I realize that. I have a group of friends, many of whom are Jewish,
but not practicing. One of the Jewish couples would host a latkes party
around this time of year.

One of the guys talked about how he would like to get together for a
seder. Apparently both he and is wife got back into religion in a big
way, sort of like the Jewish version of born again, and apparently they
rarely associate with non Jews or even non practicing Jews.

On 2021-03-26 11:05 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister

> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
> gatherings.
>
> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>
> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>

Do you serve horseradish to signify the bitterness of their feelings
about being forced to eat gefilte fish when they were young?

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:52:22 -0600, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:17:53 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>

>>Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>
>I just didn't think that would be done -- but why not? Everything is
>virtual today.
>Janet US

I think it is a great tech advancement if used correctly (every tech
innovation has its dark side, I suppose), and to the greatest benefit.

Having sat through hundreds and hundreds of in person meetings during
my business years, I think virtual wastes less time and is often much
less intrusive.

Granted, I am comfy with the meeting programs and not all people are,
but we need to get everyone set up with decent tech and online access.

I do feel, though, that what has happened with online school
instruction has been a disaster for so many kids and teachers. Not a
tech fault, though. No one knew it was coming, no one had access to
tested, best practice programs all ready to go, no one knew how to
find and hold onto kids on the edges or help non-tech savvy educators,
no one knew how to do any of it and it has shown. There are also lots
of social aspects to the school day that kids and educators are
missing out on, but virtual can be very helpful if used in supplement
or backup. I look forward to reading the books written about it all.

Time to go make yogurt.

On 26/03/2021 15:05, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>> On 26/03/2021 14:30, Boron Elgar wrote
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>> That's more of a Hanukah food.
>>> Yup, though potatoes are often incorporated into the meal in sides.
>> I know a mixed-background family which serves baked ham and latkes at Xmas.
> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
> gatherings.
>
> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>
> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>
Ick. The smell alone puts me off.

On 3/26/2021 11:42 AM, US Janet wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:39:30 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:05:58 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:52:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2021 7:42 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>>
>>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds wonderful! When I was looking at the meat counter last week I
>>>> couldn't find any lamb at all. I'm hoping as Easter approaches it will
>>>> start showing up.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Leg, chops and rack are always around the markets here. Must have to
>>> do with local tastes. I can usually get lamb breast, too.
>>>
>>> I would think they would be around this week- one of the standard
>>> Easter mains.
>>
>> Not here. The big Mexican Catholic communities here are into Cabrito
>> as their Easter meat. Lamb is always for sale in limited
>> quantities, but they mostly don't eat it.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Goat shows up at Cash and Carry every year at this time as well as
> larger cuts of lamb.
> Janet US
>
Oh, it's doubtful I could find goat at my local stores. I look at all
the meat cuts at the grocery store, always interesting to see what they
have and looking for good prices. I've never seen goat - would it be
ribs? chops? legs?

There is one very small Hispanic market on Saint Helena. The sign out
front says it's a "Tienda y Taqueria". Yep, it's a store and a kind of
'restaurant'.

They don't sell fresh meat and don't have a freezer. They do sell a
wide variety of dried herbs, spices, dried whole peppers and such. They
sell packaged tortillas (corn and flour), same regional brands just like
any nearby grocery store.

I know they do some cooking on site but they don't seem to want to sell
to (sorry) someone like me. They claim they don't speak English if I
try to inquire about what they're cooking for lunch. I suspect they
don't actually have a license for selling cooked food to the public. <shrug>

They do have a nice refrigerated selection of Mexican cheeses. Oxaca,
Queso Fresco, Queso blanco. Nice fresh, albeit crumbly, melty cheeses
to use in things like quesadillas or enchiladas. The 'Tienda'
(store) only takes cash.

Jill

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:34:46 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-26 11:05 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
>
>> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
>> gatherings.
>>
>> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
>> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>>
>> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>>
>
> Do you serve horseradish to signify the bitterness of their feelings
>about being forced to eat gefilte fish when they were young?

Probably...

Technically, horseradish does not fit the description for the bitter
herbs that are on the seder plate. I think more in terms of leafy
things, such as chicory. These days, most people in the US just use
horseradish, though.

I love horseradish and it makes the gefilte fish more palatable.
These days gefilte fish is really just a differently shaped rillete or
salmon patty texture - but I have only really liked it when it has
been home made, not that jarred stuff sitting in aspic.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 7:09:45 AM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:34:46 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2021-03-26 11:05 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
> >
> >> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
> >> gatherings.
> >>
> >> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
> >> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
> >>
> >> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
> >>
> >
> > Do you serve horseradish to signify the bitterness of their feelings
> >about being forced to eat gefilte fish when they were young?
> Probably...
>
> Technically, horseradish does not fit the description for the bitter
> herbs that are on the seder plate. I think more in terms of leafy
> things, such as chicory. These days, most people in the US just use
> horseradish, though.
>
> I love horseradish and it makes the gefilte fish more palatable.
> These days gefilte fish is really just a differently shaped rillete or
> salmon patty texture - but I have only really liked it when it has
> been home made, not that jarred stuff sitting in aspic.

Gefilte fish sounds like Jewish kamaboko.

https://cookpad.com/us/recipes/17185...-make-overseas

On 3/26/2021 11:06 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:37:14 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/26/2021 10:29 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:20:08 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>>
>>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> More traditional at Chanukah, but why not? Latkes are great and
>>> fulfill the dietary requirements of Passover ,
>>>
>>>
>> I'm sort of picturing a Cook-a-Long (from the old RFC days) via Zoom
>> rather than chat, with appropriate Seder food.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Cook alongs could be fun.
>
Sure, why not? It's a family gathering online. Incorporate the ritual
aspects of the Seder with the cooking of the types of food for the Seder
meal. No one has to show themselves actually cooking but you can all
talk about it. And share some pics if they feel like it. And say the
appropriate words over the meal at the same time. It's probably the
next best thing to being there in these odd Covid-19 times.

Jill

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:02:42 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 26/03/2021 15:05, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>> On 26/03/2021 14:30, Boron Elgar wrote
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>>> That's more of a Hanukah food.
>>>> Yup, though potatoes are often incorporated into the meal in sides.
>>> I know a mixed-background family which serves baked ham and latkes at Xmas.
>> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
>> gatherings.
>>
>> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
>> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>>
>> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>>
>Ick. The smell alone puts me off.


Me, too.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:58:13 AM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:52:22 -0600, US Janet >
> wrote:
> >On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:17:53 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
> >
>
> >>Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
> >>anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
> >>seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
> >>hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
> >
> >I just didn't think that would be done -- but why not? Everything is
> >virtual today.
> >Janet US
> I think it is a great tech advancement if used correctly (every tech
> innovation has its dark side, I suppose), and to the greatest benefit.
>
> Having sat through hundreds and hundreds of in person meetings during
> my business years, I think virtual wastes less time and is often much
> less intrusive.
>
> Granted, I am comfy with the meeting programs and not all people are,
> but we need to get everyone set up with decent tech and online access.
>
> I do feel, though, that what has happened with online school
> instruction has been a disaster for so many kids and teachers. Not a
> tech fault, though. No one knew it was coming, no one had access to
> tested, best practice programs all ready to go, no one knew how to
> find and hold onto kids on the edges or help non-tech savvy educators,
> no one knew how to do any of it and it has shown. There are also lots
> of social aspects to the school day that kids and educators are
> missing out on, but virtual can be very helpful if used in supplement
> or backup. I look forward to reading the books written about it all.
>
> Time to go make yogurt.

My granddaughter was doing Zoom meeting for her first grade classes. I would sit with her sometimes and it felt awkward but it could have been me that felt disorganized and unprepared - just like I felt in real school. My granddaughter might have felt right at home with the technology. These days, she's back in class.
I do Zoom for my club meetings. It's tough to get the hang of it but I wonder if it's going to change every thing that comes after. The most important user control is that "mute" button. They should make it big and red.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:29:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 7:09:45 AM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:34:46 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2021-03-26 11:05 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
>> >
>> >> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
>> >> gatherings.
>> >>
>> >> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
>> >> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>> >>
>> >> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>> >>
>> >
>> > Do you serve horseradish to signify the bitterness of their feelings
>> >about being forced to eat gefilte fish when they were young?
>> Probably...
>>
>> Technically, horseradish does not fit the description for the bitter
>> herbs that are on the seder plate. I think more in terms of leafy
>> things, such as chicory. These days, most people in the US just use
>> horseradish, though.
>>
>> I love horseradish and it makes the gefilte fish more palatable.
>> These days gefilte fish is really just a differently shaped rillete or
>> salmon patty texture - but I have only really liked it when it has
>> been home made, not that jarred stuff sitting in aspic.
>
>Gefilte fish sounds like Jewish kamaboko.
>
>https://cookpad.com/us/recipes/17185...-make-overseas

Ground white fish (or often pike in the case of gefilte)...sounds like
it..

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:31:26 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/26/2021 11:06 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:37:14 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/26/2021 10:29 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:20:08 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>>>
>>>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> More traditional at Chanukah, but why not? Latkes are great and
>>>> fulfill the dietary requirements of Passover ,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm sort of picturing a Cook-a-Long (from the old RFC days) via Zoom
>>> rather than chat, with appropriate Seder food.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Cook alongs could be fun.
>>
>Sure, why not? It's a family gathering online. Incorporate the ritual
>aspects of the Seder with the cooking of the types of food for the Seder
>meal. No one has to show themselves actually cooking but you can all
>talk about it. And share some pics if they feel like it. And say the
>appropriate words over the meal at the same time. It's probably the
>next best thing to being there in these odd Covid-19 times.
>
>Jill

First seder is tomorrow night and one of the kids is 12 hrs ahead of
us. I don't think we'll get it done this year, but this goes in the
Book of Good Ideas.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> Oh, it's doubtful I could find goat at my local stores. I look at all
> the meat cuts at the grocery store, always interesting to see what they
> have and looking for good prices. I've never seen goat - would it be
> ribs? chops? legs?

The cabrito here comes in hinds and fores. As for goat, it comes in
"chunks". About 1.75 square "chunks" of bone and meat.

https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/...-part-one.html

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:15:11 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 00:26:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:42:37 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>
>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>
>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>
>>Is this, like.... the first time you've ever made an on-topic OP?
>
> Gosh, blink, blush...oh my stars and garters, I have been discovered -
> mistakenly so, but what the heck.
>
>>Prior to 2/23/2021, "Rolling Along", your last OP was about the Gold
>>Medal Flour recall on 6/1/2016 (which was hardly an OP, it was a
>>news article)
>
> Swell, another incel idiot.

You're a woman? Huh.

-sw

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:01:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:15:11 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 00:26:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:42:37 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>
>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>
>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>
>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>
>>>Is this, like.... the first time you've ever made an on-topic OP?
>>
>> Gosh, blink, blush...oh my stars and garters, I have been discovered -
>> mistakenly so, but what the heck.
>>
>>>Prior to 2/23/2021, "Rolling Along", your last OP was about the Gold
>>>Medal Flour recall on 6/1/2016 (which was hardly an OP, it was a
>>>news article)
>>
>> Swell, another incel idiot.
>
>You're a woman? Huh.
>
>-sw

Yeah...and you're not.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:51:16 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Oh, it's doubtful I could find goat at my local stores. I look at all
>> the meat cuts at the grocery store, always interesting to see what they
>> have and looking for good prices. I've never seen goat - would it be
>> ribs? chops? legs?
>
>The cabrito here comes in hinds and fores. As for goat, it comes in
>"chunks". About 1.75 square "chunks" of bone and meat.
>
>https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/...-part-one.html

then maybe what I see at Cash & Carry is Cabrito because their
packages are definitely hinds and fores.
As for grocery store goat, it is always available. It comes frozen.
It is in a large pllastic bag and is cut into 2-3 inch squares of bone
and meat.
I would find it in the large bin with rabbit, duck, beef bones, pork
bones, chicken feet etc., probably the out of season turkey.
Janet US

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:02:42 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 26/03/2021 15:05, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
>> > wrote:
>>> On 26/03/2021 14:30, Boron Elgar wrote
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> On 26/03/2021 14:20, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-03-26 8:17 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 23:30:54 -0600, US Janet >
>>>>>>> They are popular. Gosh, why as I surprised.
>>>>>>> https://www.kveller.com/how-to-host-...-for-families/
>>>>>>> Still, there is nothing one can do on Zoom to convey the mild
>>>>>>> anticipation, almost anxiety, that can arise during a truly compliant
>>>>>>> seder when the thing goes on and on, and people get hungrier and
>>>>>>> hungrier, and do everything they can to nudge it along more quickly.
>>>>>> But what about those nice, freshly fried latkes?
>>>>> That's more of a Hanukah food.
>>>> Yup, though potatoes are often incorporated into the meal in sides.
>>> I know a mixed-background family which serves baked ham and latkes at Xmas.
>> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
>> gatherings.
>>
>> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
>> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>>
>> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>>
>Ick. The smell alone puts me off.

You've likely never eaten real gefilte fish, only that garbage sold in
jars. Nowadays very few know how to prepare real gefilte fish, let
alone have seen it, not even religious Jews. That crap in a jar isn't
even fit for baiting a crab trap.
Gefilte fish means "stuffed fish"... the skin of a fish is removed in
one piece and then is stuffed with the ground/chopped seasoned
fish flesh and poached in the stock made from the fish trimmings.
Fresh water fish is used. Made correctly it's delicious. Don't need
to be Jewish to know how to make real gefillte fish, just grow up in
Brooklyn. Don't forget the chrain (horse radish) Golds white.

On 3/26/2021 12:58 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:

>
> I do feel, though, that what has happened with online school
> instruction has been a disaster for so many kids and teachers. Not a
> tech fault, though. No one knew it was coming, no one had access to
> tested, best practice programs all ready to go, no one knew how to
> find and hold onto kids on the edges or help non-tech savvy educators,
> no one knew how to do any of it and it has shown. There are also lots
> of social aspects to the school day that kids and educators are
> missing out on, but virtual can be very helpful if used in supplement
> or backup. I look forward to reading the books written about it all.
>
> Time to go make yogurt.
>
>

IMO, the social aspects are the most important part of in class
learning. Sure, you can learn the capitols of all the states on line
but real interaction with people is best in person. Many friendships and
marriages started out in school.

Besides, if not for the schoolyard, where would kids get sex education?

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:49:47 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/25/2021 8:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:52:42 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2021 7:42 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>
>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>
>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>>
>>> Sounds wonderful! When I was looking at the meat counter last week I
>>> couldn't find any lamb at all. I'm hoping as Easter approaches it will
>>> start showing up.
>>
>> Next time you see it, listen carefully and you can still hear the
>> little lamb cry for it's mummy.
>
>What would Jebus say about that?

Jebus the Tasmanian? He eats little lambs raw.

--
The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:16:02 -0600, US Janet wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:51:16 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, it's doubtful I could find goat at my local stores. I look at all
>>> the meat cuts at the grocery store, always interesting to see what they
>>> have and looking for good prices. I've never seen goat - would it be
>>> ribs? chops? legs?
>>
>>The cabrito here comes in hinds and fores. As for goat, it comes in
>>"chunks". About 1.75 square "chunks" of bone and meat.
>>
>>https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/...-part-one.html
>
> then maybe what I see at Cash & Carry is Cabrito because their
> packages are definitely hinds and fores.

Probably. Because goat hinds and fores would be 3-4 feet wide. The
kids are only 12-18" or so.

> As for grocery store goat, it is always available. It comes frozen.
> It is in a large pllastic bag and is cut into 2-3 inch squares of bone
> and meat.

Yep, that's them. I kinda like term - "Goat Chunks". I don't know
why, it's just kinda catchy to me.

-sw

On 3/26/2021 12:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-26 11:05 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:38:51 +0000, S Viemeister
>
>> Ours is a mixed family and we have often created cross-cultural
>> gatherings.
>>
>> Food-wise, unless one is observant of dietary laws, it really is a lot
>> of fun. In the NJ branch, there are no observant, so we have fun!
>>
>> No one will eat gefilte fish no matter what holiday it is....
>>
>
> Â*Do you serve horseradish to signify the bitterness of their feelings
> about being forced to eat gefilte fish when they were young?
>
And, do they turn down the free ham?
--
The real Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

On 3/26/2021 2:14 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:01:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:15:11 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 00:26:49 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 19:42:37 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This evening we had rack of lamb with new red potatoes roasted beneath
>>>>> it in the pan, green beans and apple sauce.
>>>>>
>>>>> DH, who is a great cook, roasted the lamb perfectly, so it was medium
>>>>> rare, just as we like it. The potatoes were crispy on the outside and
>>>>> soft and creamy on the inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a favorite dinner.
>>>>
>>>> Is this, like.... the first time you've ever made an on-topic OP?
>>>
>>> Gosh, blink, blush...oh my stars and garters, I have been discovered -
>>> mistakenly so, but what the heck.
>>>
>>>> Prior to 2/23/2021, "Rolling Along", your last OP was about the Gold
>>>> Medal Flour recall on 6/1/2016 (which was hardly an OP, it was a
>>>> news article)
>>>
>>> Swell, another incel idiot.
>>
>> You're a woman? Huh.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Yeah...and you're not.
>

But these days he can be if he wants.