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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:40:28 -0700, Leo >
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>On 2021 Mar 30, , Boron Elgar wrote
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>
>> I think up in the PNW. It really needs flowing water and NJ surely has
>> no climate that would be decent for it, but hey, I'll try to grow
>> anything....I have a 5 foot plumeria in my kitchen that is from a stem
>> cutting I got in Hilo and I have a few small Joshua trees from seed I
>> got in CA there too. They all want to go outside, but they have to
>> wait a bit....

>
>Let me know if you can get a Joshua tree to thrive in NJ. That would shift my
>worldview. The desert is lousy with them about a hundred miles SSE of Reno as
>the crow flies, but I don´t see any here.
>


I over winter inside. They will not take a hard winter outdoors. Lost
a really nice one to an early storm one year.

I tried the same with sequoia seeds and attempted to over-winter one
outside. Nope. Finally gave up growing them when the other two got too
big to bring inside in the cold weather.
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:32:48 -0400, Boron Elgar
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>On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:40:28 -0700, Leo >
>wrote:
>
>>On 2021 Mar 30, , Boron Elgar wrote
>>(in >):
>>
>>> I think up in the PNW. It really needs flowing water and NJ surely has
>>> no climate that would be decent for it, but hey, I'll try to grow
>>> anything....I have a 5 foot plumeria in my kitchen that is from a stem
>>> cutting I got in Hilo and I have a few small Joshua trees from seed I
>>> got in CA there too. They all want to go outside, but they have to
>>> wait a bit....

>>
>>Let me know if you can get a Joshua tree to thrive in NJ. That would shift my
>>worldview. The desert is lousy with them about a hundred miles SSE of Reno as
>>the crow flies, but I don´t see any here.
>>

>
>I over winter inside. They will not take a hard winter outdoors. Lost
>a really nice one to an early storm one year.
>
>I tried the same with sequoia seeds and attempted to over-winter one
>outside. Nope. Finally gave up growing them when the other two got too
>big to bring inside in the cold weather.


We have one sequoia in town. It's very,very old. It was on the
hospital grounds near city center. For years the state forestry dept
tried to get seeeds to sprout and grow but the had no luck. The tree
was really outgrowing the space.
The the time came that the hospital had to expand in a really major
way. It was a 2-year project to move the tree.
The first year they dug a perimiter around the tree and cut the
outlying roots. It was decided to move the tree basically across the
street because the soil composition was nearly the same therre as
where the tree currently existed. It took a couple of weeks or more
to move the tree. The tree is the size you see put up in a city
center for Christmas. It made it in good health. I know it was very
expensive to do.
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On 23:05 31 Mar 2021, Pamela said:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 08:55:47 +1100, Bruce >
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>
>>On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:44:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021-03-31 5:19 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 3/31/2021 9:57 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My son's wedding plans are on hold. He had planned to propose
>>>>> on a trip to Peru last May but that fell through. They have
>>>>> been waiting for restrictions to be lifted but I don't think
>>>>> that is going to happen soon, and there is a bigger and bigger
>>>>> backlog as this thing goes on. We are expecting another lock
>>>>> down* to be announced within a few days because cases are
>>>>> climbing again.
>>>>>
>>>> Are you saying he still hasn't *proposed*?* Nothing is stopping
>>>> him from popping the question, no matter how long it takes for
>>>> restrictions to ease for the actual wedding.
>>>>
>>>
>>>No. I said that he had planned to propose to her in Peru.
>>>Specifically, he had hoped to so it at Machu Pichu. He had
>>>bought a ring when they were in Columbia a few months earlier and
>>>planned to give it to here there. That part of the plan fell
>>>apart when the travel business shut down. They bought a house
>>>together and moved in together last April.
>>>
>>>It's official. They are engaged.

>>
>>Does that still exist, engagement? Sounds so 1950. We just got
>>married.

>
> Married? How last century. Unless you're a fag who likes to be
> trendy.


Mr Neodome, tsk tsk! That's very naughty because I strongly approve
of marriage.
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On 23:18 31 Mar 2021, Dave Smith said:

> On 2021-03-31 6:05 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 08:55:47 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:44:43 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:

>
>>>> No. I said that he had planned to propose to her in Peru.
>>>> Specifically, he had hoped to so it at Machu Pichu. He had
>>>> bought a ring when they were in Columbia a few months earlier
>>>> and planned to give it to here there. That part of the plan
>>>> fell apart when the travel business shut down. They bought a
>>>> house together and moved in together last April.
>>>>
>>>> It's official. They are engaged.
>>>
>>> Does that still exist, engagement? Sounds so 1950. We just got
>>> married.

>>
>> Married? How last century. Unless you're a fag who likes to be
>> trendy.

>
> Wow. That was a really weird comment.


It's typical of the troll it came from, Mr Neodome. Marriage is an
important institution too often ignored by today's hapless and
meandering generation.
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On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 8:38:45 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:18:58 PM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:47:42 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 10:23:55 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > > > On 31/03/2021 13:33, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 8:20:29 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> What an odd wedding day but I was happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nearly everybody is happy on their wedding day. The hard part is what comes
> > > > > after that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is why I just snicker when I read about brides who want their
> > > > > wedding to be "perfect". As long as the paperwork gets signed by the
> > > > > right people, what happens on that day is largely irrelevant.
> > > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > > Far too many people concentrate on the wedding, rather than the marriage.
> > > > When we got married, it was just us, our parents, our siblings, and the
> > > > minister. We all walked over to the local church, we got married, then
> > > > walked back to my parents' house for cake, tea, and coffee.
> > > > We're still together, and I'm still crazy about him.
> > >
> > > Your marriage sounds pretty elaborate.

> > A single family member probably wants an excuse to throw around a lot of money for high profile ceremony. That's all wedding with a big splash really is.

> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.


Probably even before then, too.


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On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 6:17:58 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > about Hawaiian food in that respect.

>
> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.


Why is it always about restaurants for you?

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:56:58 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 6:17:58 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > > about Hawaiian food in that respect.

> >
> > I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.

> Why is it always about restaurants for you?
>
> Cindy Hamilton



And WTF is "a product of your embattlement personality" supposed to mean...???

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On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 5:17:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > about Hawaiian food in that respect.

> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.



Hawaiian grub is not even a step up from black ghetto food...far worse in fact...!!!

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:56:58 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 6:17:58 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > > > about Hawaiian food in that respect.
> > >
> > > I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.

> > Why is it always about restaurants for you?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

> And WTF is "a product of your embattlement personality" supposed to mean....???


If he came right out and said I'm a bitch, he'd lose face.

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>On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:32:48 -0400, Boron Elgar
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>
>>On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:40:28 -0700, Leo >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021 Mar 30, , Boron Elgar wrote
>>>(in >):
>>>
>>>> I think up in the PNW. It really needs flowing water and NJ surely has
>>>> no climate that would be decent for it, but hey, I'll try to grow
>>>> anything....I have a 5 foot plumeria in my kitchen that is from a stem
>>>> cutting I got in Hilo and I have a few small Joshua trees from seed I
>>>> got in CA there too. They all want to go outside, but they have to
>>>> wait a bit....
>>>
>>>Let me know if you can get a Joshua tree to thrive in NJ. That would shift my
>>>worldview. The desert is lousy with them about a hundred miles SSE of Reno as
>>>the crow flies, but I don´t see any here.
>>>

>>
>>I over winter inside. They will not take a hard winter outdoors. Lost
>>a really nice one to an early storm one year.
>>
>>I tried the same with sequoia seeds and attempted to over-winter one
>>outside. Nope. Finally gave up growing them when the other two got too
>>big to bring inside in the cold weather.

>
>We have one sequoia in town. It's very,very old. It was on the
>hospital grounds near city center. For years the state forestry dept
>tried to get seeeds to sprout and grow but the had no luck. The tree
>was really outgrowing the space.
>The the time came that the hospital had to expand in a really major
>way. It was a 2-year project to move the tree.
>The first year they dug a perimiter around the tree and cut the
>outlying roots. It was decided to move the tree basically across the
>street because the soil composition was nearly the same therre as
>where the tree currently existed. It took a couple of weeks or more
>to move the tree. The tree is the size you see put up in a city
>center for Christmas. It made it in good health. I know it was very
>expensive to do.
>Janet US


They are so majestic, so wonderful. I love them. I think it was worth
it. I assume it was one that managed to survive over the centuries and
ultimately acclimate to the area. Brava sequoia!

The first time I tried to grow them here, I had been visiting in
Amador County, CA, where my cousins then had a winery, and the
seedlings were being given away at a fair to encourage native tree
plantings. I bundled them up and carried them onto the plane and
babied them to get them home, with the ultimate results as above. They
brought me pleasure for some years.


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On 3/31/2021 6:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
>> about Hawaiian food in that respect.

>
> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.
>


I watched a 30 minute show last night about the traditional Hawaiian
food. Australian chef, Curtis Stone, went to Kaui to be educated.
Good show.

He learned how to make poi the traditional way.
Then they hunted and killed a wild pig in the mountains.
Caught some kind of large fish (didn't catch the name)
Had the purple flesh sweet potatoes.

At the end, they cooked a feast in a Hawaiian emu (not the Australian
bird). It's the fire pit that heats up stones then everything is covered
with leaves and tarps and slow cooks for about 8 hours.

Good show. Look for it on PBS.




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On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.


And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.



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On 3/31/2021 8:16 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 8:13:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:05:34 -0400, Boron Elgar
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:44:43 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> No. I said that he had planned to propose to her in Peru. Specifically,
>>>> he had hoped to so it at Machu Pichu.
>>>
>>> He is a-ok in my book

>> Yep, people who plan to propose in Peru, specifically at Machu Pichu,
>> are always a-ok. Everybody knows that.

>
> Do buses fall off cliffs there each year?


Better a quick death off a cliff than a slow death getting married. lol



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On 2021-04-01 9:55 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 3/31/2021 6:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:


>> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I
>> have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a
>> product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I
>> can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss
>> on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that
>> the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of
>> Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.
>>

>
> I watched a 30 minute show last night about the traditional Hawaiian
> food. Australian chef, Curtis Stone, went to Kaui to be educated.
> Good show.
>


Last night I watched an episode of Somebody Feed Phil about Hawaii.
Some of the dishes they did seemed interesting, though some of them just
reinforced my impression. In one segment they made a big thing out of a
place that sold various types of hot dogs, all grilled black.

We had a Hawaiin restaurant in town for a while. I went there once and
was not impressed, but that was more about the dish than the genre of
food itself. I had ordered Mahi Mahi and what I got was a piece of fish
about 1 1/2" wide, 3" ling and less than 1/2" thick and a pile of rice
with back sesame seeds. There was a small bed of greens. Some of the
greens were black and slimy and smelled as rotten as they looked. It
was lunch so that was especially bad for the first meal served that day.

I realize that meal reflected more on that restaurant than on Hawaiian
food in general, but I never went back. One time my son brought us take
out fish and chips from it. They were good, but it is not much of a
comment about Hawaiian food.


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On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
> > statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.

>
> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
>


I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
engaged to another one within months of the separation.

At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still married.


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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
> > > statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.

> >
> > And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
> > When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
> > out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
> >

> I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
> only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
> that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
> engaged to another one within months of the separation.
>
> At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still married.


My first husband is on his third or fourth wife. Apparently he didn't learn
as much from being married to me (and my successors) as I learned from
being married to him.

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:08:27 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:56:58 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 6:17:58 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > > > > about Hawaiian food in that respect.
> > > >
> > > > I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.
> > > Why is it always about restaurants for you?
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton

> > And WTF is "a product of your embattlement personality" supposed to mean...???

>
> If he came right out and said I'm a bitch, he'd lose face.


You realize what a "bitch" is right? As far as I can see, no one on this group fits that description.
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On 4/1/2021 10:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
>>>> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.
>>>
>>> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
>>> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
>>> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
>>>

>> I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
>> only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
>> that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
>> engaged to another one within months of the separation.
>>
>> At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still married.

>
> My first husband is on his third or fourth wife. Apparently he didn't learn
> as much from being married to me (and my successors) as I learned from
> being married to him.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


There are many good reasons for divorce. I was glad my parents did when
I was a teenager.

I don't think I'd hook up with someone that was divorced three times
though. Talk about caution flags.

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On 4/1/2021 9:33 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/1/2021 10:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>>> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
>>>>> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.
>>>>
>>>> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
>>>> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
>>>> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
>>>>
>>> I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
>>> only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
>>> that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
>>> engaged to another one within months of the separation.
>>>
>>> At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still married.

>>
>> My first husband is on his third or fourth wife. Apparently he didn't learn
>> as much from being married to me (and my successors) as I learned from
>> being married to him.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> There are many good reasons for divorce. I was glad my parents did when
> I was a teenager.
>
> I don't think I'd hook up with someone that was divorced three times
> though. Talk about caution flags.
>


Desperate times (and desperate people) call for desperate measures.
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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:56:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 6:17:58 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > > about Hawaiian food in that respect.

> >
> > I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.

> Why is it always about restaurants for you?
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I'm not interested in going to the mainland and cooking my own food. That's just the way it works. Why are you so interested in my little life? Your endless questions into my life is kind of a drag. Yoose must be envious of it. I don't ask question about other people's lives because I got my own life to attend to. Don't you have a life?


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On 2021-04-01 10:33 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/1/2021 10:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>>> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
>>>>> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.
>>>>
>>>> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
>>>> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
>>>> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
>>>>
>>> I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
>>> only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
>>> that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
>>> engaged to another one within months of the separation.
>>>
>>> At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still
>>> married.

>>
>> My first husband is on his third or fourth wife.Â* Apparently he didn't
>> learn
>> as much from being married to me (and my successors) as I learned from
>> being married to him.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> There are many good reasons for divorce.Â* I was glad my parents did when
> I was a teenager.
>
> I don't think I'd hook up with someone that was divorced three times
> though.Â* Talk about caution flags.
>

Sometime after my divorce, I dated a woman a few times until she told me
about the affairs she'd had while she was married.
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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:56:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 3/31/2021 6:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> >> about Hawaiian food in that respect.

> >
> > I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.
> >

> I watched a 30 minute show last night about the traditional Hawaiian
> food. Australian chef, Curtis Stone, went to Kaui to be educated.
> Good show.
>
> He learned how to make poi the traditional way.
> Then they hunted and killed a wild pig in the mountains.
> Caught some kind of large fish (didn't catch the name)
> Had the purple flesh sweet potatoes.
>
> At the end, they cooked a feast in a Hawaiian emu (not the Australian
> bird). It's the fire pit that heats up stones then everything is covered
> with leaves and tarps and slow cooks for about 8 hours.
>
> Good show. Look for it on PBS.


What people don't understand is that the cooks have to be familiar with many different cuisines in addition to being able to cook regular American food. They're familiar with Hawaiian foods as well as local foods, which is a mash up with most of the cooking and cultures of the people that live here. It's quite a heavy load.

My neighbor used to dig an imu. He would grab the heated stones with his hands. It is important to dip your hands in water before grabbing them. This left quite an impression on my little kid mind. it's still there.
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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:47:19 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:56:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 6:17:58 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> > > > about Hawaiian food in that respect.
> > >
> > > I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.

> > Why is it always about restaurants for you?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

> I'm not interested in going to the mainland and cooking my own food. That's just the way it works.


If you go there to travel, I can't imagine why you would want to eat just the way you
do back home.

If you went there to live, not cooking your own food is insane.

> Why are you so interested in my little life?


Because so many of thing things you say make no sense.

> Your endless questions into my life is kind of a drag. Yoose must be envious of it. I don't ask
> question about other people's lives because I got my own life to attend to. Don't you have a life?


Of course I do. It's a trivial amount of time to type up these questions.

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:49:30 PM UTC-4, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-01 10:33 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/1/2021 10:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>> On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
> >>>> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
> >>>>> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.
> >>>>
> >>>> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
> >>>> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
> >>>> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
> >>>>
> >>> I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
> >>> only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
> >>> that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
> >>> engaged to another one within months of the separation.
> >>>
> >>> At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still
> >>> married.
> >>
> >> My first husband is on his third or fourth wife. Apparently he didn't
> >> learn
> >> as much from being married to me (and my successors) as I learned from
> >> being married to him.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>

> >
> > There are many good reasons for divorce. I was glad my parents did when
> > I was a teenager.
> >
> > I don't think I'd hook up with someone that was divorced three times
> > though. Talk about caution flags.
> >

> Sometime after my divorce, I dated a woman a few times until she told me
> about the affairs she'd had while she was married.


Yeah, that's a good one.

When my mother turned up pregnant, my father offered to divorce his wife and
marry my mother. She declined. He's on his third or fourth wife, too. I think
the current one is about my age, although the diff between 64 and 90 isn't
as creepy as the diff between, say, 14 and 30.

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:56:59 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
> > statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.

> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.


That's tragic. My son doesn't feel the need to get married. I think their generation is skittish about the whole idea. His partner's parents got divorced early on. It sounded like quite a traumatic event. The weird part was her parents both remarried. Both of them had a pretty successful marriages but that ended with the death of their spouses. In the end, her parents remarried again. That's probably some kind of wish come true for kids of divorce.


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On 2021-04-01 12:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/1/2021 10:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>

>
> There are many good reasons for divorce.Â* I was glad my parents did when
> I was a teenager.
>
> I don't think I'd hook up with someone that was divorced three times
> though.Â* Talk about caution flags.
>


My sister in law is a wonderful woman, but she has been married several
times and been in several common law relationships. She was a really
good looking in her youth, enough that a history professor wrote about
her in his autobiography and described her as poisonously beautiful. She
is still very attractive. She is smart, outgoing, a great
conversataionalist and generous. I think that her problem was that she
was always attracted to very dynamic characters and was a little slow to
pick up on the quirks that went along with them.

She was married young but left her husband when he became abusive. She
moved to Montreal and hooked up with a film maker, but that split up
when he was messing around on her. She later hooked up with a young
actor, lived with him for a few years ago, had some sort of ceremony,
had a child, and then he buggered off to find fame and fortune in the
acting business, and he found it. She moved back to her home city, met
a childhood sweetheart who was visiting from Colorado and ran off and
married him. He was a dynamic fellow, but an asshole who drank himself
into a stupor several nights a week and got abusive along the way. She
moved back to the home town again and then ran into a guy who used to
live around the corner from their family.

What a character she latched into with him. His ex wife was nuttier
than a fruitcake and had passed on some of her weirdness to their kids,
so she has a hard time dealing with them. Two of them blame her for
their parents divorce, even though they we divorced before SIL even came
on the scene. She has been tempted to leave this one but I convinced
her she should try to ride this one out. He is 85, overweight, diabetic
and now has a heart problem. She can outlive him and collect his
substantial pension.
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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:01:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> If you go there to travel, I can't imagine why you would want to eat just the way you
> do back home.


I'll always seek out the local specialties when traveling. Otherwise, what the heck am I suppose to eat? A hamburger? A pizza? Spaghetti? Apple pie? I can get all of those thing on my rock. Anybody on the mainland can come here and eat American food. American food is a subset of the foods we eat here. When we got to the mainland, our food choices seem limited. OTOH, on the mainland, I can get better Mexican food. That's a good thing.
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 13:14:03 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> What a character she latched into with him. His ex wife was nuttier
> than a fruitcake and had passed on some of her weirdness to their kids,
> so she has a hard time dealing with them. Two of them blame her for
> their parents divorce, even though they we divorced before SIL even came
> on the scene. She has been tempted to leave this one but I convinced
> her she should try to ride this one out. He is 85, overweight, diabetic
> and now has a heart problem. She can outlive him and collect his
> substantial pension.


After that, you could set her up with John. He needs some dough to set up
up a copper-flashed Uzi conning port on his antique tile roof.
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:56:42 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
> > statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.

>
>And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
>When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
>out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.


Maybe it was that kind of a neighbourhood?

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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 1:21:46 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:01:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > If you go there to travel, I can't imagine why you would want to eat just the way you
> > do back home.

> I'll always seek out the local specialties when traveling. Otherwise, what the heck am I suppose to eat? A hamburger? A pizza? Spaghetti? Apple pie? I can get all of those thing on my rock.


Spaghetti? You're reducing the powerful and ancient cuisines of Italy to "spaghetti"?

Sure. Stay in Hawaii and eat at Olive Garden. You are beyond redemption.

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On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:49:24 -0600, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-04-01 10:33 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/1/2021 10:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-04-01 9:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>>>> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
>>>>>> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
>>>>> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
>>>>> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.
>>>>>
>>>> I had a friend in my early 20s who married young but that one lasted
>>>> only about a year. As soon as the divorce was final he was engaged, but
>>>> that ended. He then married again. It lasted about two years. He was
>>>> engaged to another one within months of the separation.
>>>>
>>>> At one point, among all our friends, only three couples were still
>>>> married.
>>>
>>> My first husband is on his third or fourth wife.Â* Apparently he didn't
>>> learn
>>> as much from being married to me (and my successors) as I learned from
>>> being married to him.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>>
>> There are many good reasons for divorce.Â* I was glad my parents did when
>> I was a teenager.
>>
>> I don't think I'd hook up with someone that was divorced three times
>> though.Â* Talk about caution flags.
>>

>Sometime after my divorce, I dated a woman a few times until she told me
>about the affairs she'd had while she was married.


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>On 3/31/2021 6:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
>>> about Hawaiian food in that respect.

>>
>> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.
>>

>
>I watched a 30 minute show last night about the traditional Hawaiian
>food. Australian chef, Curtis Stone, went to Kaui to be educated.
>Good show.


Curtis Stone is a prostitute chef.

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> Spaghetti? You're reducing the powerful and ancient cuisines of Italy to "spaghetti"?
>


Cut me a break. I like Italians but I find eating at Olive Garden to be pretty depressing. Yoose can stuff your face all you want at the OG! Are yoose even able to post a response to me without asking me stupid questions? Yoose needs to change your behavior. It's way too repetitious.
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On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:57:13 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:55:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >On 3/31/2021 6:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
> >>> about Hawaiian food in that respect.
> >>
> >> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth..
> >>

> >
> >I watched a 30 minute show last night about the traditional Hawaiian
> >food. Australian chef, Curtis Stone, went to Kaui to be educated.
> >Good show.

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He's an entertainer - you idiot!
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> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:53:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Spaghetti? You're reducing the powerful and ancient cuisines of Italy to "spaghetti"?
> >

> Cut me a break. I like Italians but I find eating at Olive Garden to be pretty depressing.


Why? is it all grains and sauce?


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On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:53:33 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 1:21:46 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:01:09 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> > If you go there to travel, I can't imagine why you would want to eat just the way you
>> > do back home.

>> I'll always seek out the local specialties when traveling. Otherwise, what the heck am I suppose to eat? A hamburger? A pizza? Spaghetti? Apple pie? I can get all of those thing on my rock.

>
>Spaghetti? You're reducing the powerful and ancient cuisines of Italy to "spaghetti"?


Italian food is French food for dummies.

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>On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:57:13 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:55:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >On 3/31/2021 6:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>> We all miss our hometown restaurants when we move away. There's nothing magical
>> >>> about Hawaiian food in that respect.
>> >>
>> >> I have never said that the foods we eat on this rock is magical. I have never said that the foods of Hawaii was special. That's just a product of your embattlement personality. What I have said is that I can't find our foods in restaurants on the mainland. That's not a diss on the mainland. That's a simple truth. What I've also said is that the hallmark of Hawaiian food is simplicity. That's not a diss of Hawaiian food. That's a simple truth.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I watched a 30 minute show last night about the traditional Hawaiian
>> >food. Australian chef, Curtis Stone, went to Kaui to be educated.
>> >Good show.

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>He's an entertainer - you idiot!
>

Nothing like a bit of name calling in the early morning.
>

He's a chef who has sold his soul to Mammon. He'll pretend Woolworth's
supermarket produce is the finest a chef could ever use. When the
camera's turned off he stretches out his hand to collect his pay.
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On 2021-04-01 11:14 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

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> What a character she latched into with him.Â* His ex wife was nuttier
> than a fruitcake and had passed on some of her weirdness to their kids,
> so she has a hard time dealing with them. Two of them blame her for
> their parents divorce, even though they we divorced before SIL even came
> on the scene.Â* She has been tempted to leave this one but I convinced
> her she should try to ride this one out. He is 85, overweight, diabetic
> and now has a heart problem.Â* She can outlive him and collect his
> substantial pension.


Bob, a 70-year-old, extremely wealthy widower, shows up at the country
club with a breathtakingly beautiful and very sexy 25-year-old woman.
His buddies are all aghast.
€œBob, how did you get the trophy girlfriend?€
€œGirlfriend? Shes my wife!€
€œSo how did you get her to marry you?€
€œI lied about my age.€
€œDid you tell her you were only 50?€
Bob smiled and said: €œNo! I told her I was 90!€


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> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:56:59 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> On 3/31/2021 8:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> Marriage is a great institution. Unfortunately, I've read that
>>> statistically, 50% of all marriages end when one of the spouse dies.

>> And the other 50% of all marriages end in divorce even sooner.
>> When I was "room mother" for my daughter's 5th and 6th grade classes,
>> out of about 30 kids, only 2 still lived with their original parents.

>
> That's tragic. My son doesn't feel the need to get married. I think their generation is skittish about the whole idea. His partner's parents got divorced early on. It sounded like quite a traumatic event. The weird part was her parents both remarried. Both of them had a pretty successful marriages but that ended with the death of their spouses. In the end, her parents remarried again. That's probably some kind of wish come true for kids of divorce.
>


You can expect the situation to get worse as generations of kids are
raised to think nothing of packing up and leaving when there is a hiccup
in a relationship.
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> >

> Cut me a break. I like Italians but I find eating at Olive Garden to be pretty depressing. Yoose can stuff your face all you want at the OG! Are yoose even able to post a response to me without asking me stupid questions? Yoose needs to change your behavior. It's way too repetitious.



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