I pulled out the dishwasher to see what kind of connections I needed
to replace with a new one - like if some asshole welded on the water
inlet line. Nope - copper tube screw-on w/hardwired electrical.

Then I see this little pamphlet sticking out from on top of one of
motors and I unfold it and the first thing I see is "If the motor
just hmmmmmmmmm's.:". Oh shit, you mean I may be able to fix this
damned thing?

https://i.postimg.cc/pLvzmbpf/Dishwasher-Service.jpg

I reached down into the sump and pulled outg a piece of plastic that
obviously been there for 20+ years, now with washed smooth edges
from water and detergent erosion. I think it was part of an orange
peeler, but not sure.

But the real culprit was probably the semi-rigid plastic EKG lead
that blocked the grinder/drain intake.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3316147&rt=rud

So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.

And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.

https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html

Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.

-sw

On 4/5/2021 4:11 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I pulled out the dishwasher to see what kind of connections I needed
> to replace with a new one - like if some asshole welded on the water
> inlet line. Nope - copper tube screw-on w/hardwired electrical.
>
> Then I see this little pamphlet sticking out from on top of one of
> motors and I unfold it and the first thing I see is "If the motor
> just hmmmmmmmmm's.:". Oh shit, you mean I may be able to fix this
> damned thing?
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/pLvzmbpf/Dishwasher-Service.jpg
>
> I reached down into the sump and pulled outg a piece of plastic that
> obviously been there for 20+ years, now with washed smooth edges
> from water and detergent erosion. I think it was part of an orange
> peeler, but not sure.
>
> But the real culprit was probably the semi-rigid plastic EKG lead
> that blocked the grinder/drain intake.
>
> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3316147&rt=rud
>
> So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
> save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
> just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.
>
> And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
> these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
> bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
>
> https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
>
> Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
> they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
> and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.
>
> -sw
>

Glad you go it going again.

The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
EKG.

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/5/2021 4:11 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > I pulled out the dishwasher to see what kind of connections I needed
> > to replace with a new one - like if some asshole welded on the water
> > inlet line. Nope - copper tube screw-on w/hardwired electrical.
> >
> > Then I see this little pamphlet sticking out from on top of one of
> > motors and I unfold it and the first thing I see is "If the motor
> > just hmmmmmmmmm's.:". Oh shit, you mean I may be able to fix this
> > damned thing?
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/pLvzmbpf/Dishwasher-Service.jpg
> >
> > I reached down into the sump and pulled outg a piece of plastic that
> > obviously been there for 20+ years, now with washed smooth edges
> > from water and detergent erosion. I think it was part of an orange
> > peeler, but not sure.
> >
> > But the real culprit was probably the semi-rigid plastic EKG lead
> > that blocked the grinder/drain intake.
> >
> > https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3316147&rt=rud
> >
> > So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
> > save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
> > just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.
> >
> > And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
> > these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
> > bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
> >
> > https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
> >
> > Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
> > they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
> > and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> Glad you go it going again.
>
> The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
> EKG.fi`dsho/ a hole
I ripped open my washer head to find a for dummies manual. Needed that before I shot a hole in it.

On 4/5/2021 3:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/5/2021 4:11 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> I pulled out the dishwasher to see what kind of connections I needed
>> to replace with a new one - like if some asshole welded on the water
>> inlet line. Nope - copper tube screw-on w/hardwired electrical.
>>
>> Then I see this little pamphlet sticking out from on top of one of
>> motors and I unfold it and the first thing I see is "If the motor
>> just hmmmmmmmmm's.:".Â* Oh shit, you mean I may be able to fix this
>> damned thing?
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/pLvzmbpf/Dishwasher-Service.jpg
>>
>> I reached down into the sump and pulled outg a piece of plastic that
>> obviously been there for 20+ years, now with washed smooth edges
>> from water and detergent erosion.Â* I think it was part of an orange
>> peeler, but not sure.
>>
>> But the real culprit was probably the semi-rigid plastic EKG lead
>> that blocked the grinder/drain intake.
>>
>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3316147&rt=rud
>>
>>
>> So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
>> save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years.Â* Probably
>> just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.
>>
>> And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
>> these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
>> bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
>>
>> https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
>>
>>
>> Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
>> they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
>> and not reference it in the user manual?Â* ****ers.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Glad you go it going again.
>
> The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
> EKG.

I almost spewed whiskey all over my monitor when I read that .
--
Snag
In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns.
We shot them

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 3:12:07 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> I pulled out the dishwasher to see what kind of connections I needed
> to replace with a new one - like if some asshole welded on the water
> inlet line. Nope - copper tube screw-on w/hardwired electrical.
>
My son's new house is unremodeled 1948, except for the water line for
the fridge, and the 220 outlet they put in for the induction range. There's
no place for a regular dishwasher, but we can put in an 18" one without
trashing the original cabinetry by putting in the dishwasher to the left of
the sink. Unfortunately, we'll have to put in a cheapo dishwasher because
the good ones don't come in white. Luckily, I saved the old gas range from
the rental house next door, so I can use the wiring to put in two 110 lines,
one for the range, and one for the dishwasher. The old gas range preserves
the mid century design, and the dishwasher in white won't stick out
aesthetically.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
>
> Then I see this little pamphlet sticking out from on top of one of
> motors and I unfold it and the first thing I see is "If the motor
> just hmmmmmmmmm's.:". Oh shit, you mean I may be able to fix this
> damned thing?
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/pLvzmbpf/Dishwasher-Service.jpg
>
> I reached down into the sump and pulled outg a piece of plastic that
> obviously been there for 20+ years, now with washed smooth edges
> from water and detergent erosion. I think it was part of an orange
> peeler, but not sure.
>
> But the real culprit was probably the semi-rigid plastic EKG lead
> that blocked the grinder/drain intake.
>
> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3316147&rt=rud
>
> So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
> save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
> just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.
>
I should get off my ass and use the two domains that I own. I'm not
delusional, so I don't think either would generate revenue, so it would
be just an artistic *vanity* thing, but I don't deny being a bit vain. Hey
Steve, where is the cheapest place to buy web hosting for very low
traffic websites?
>
> And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
> these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
> bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
>
> https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
>
> Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
> they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
> and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.
>
I wanted one of these, until I found out that the light doesn't stay on
during the washing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr6rv1AFVQk
So instead I bought the cheapest model of Miele.
I don't need any fancy options. I just wanted a machine that was going
to get the dishes clean, and not crap out too quickly, especially since
we're probably going to turn this into a rental after we retire. Risking
having an appliance fail in a rental when you could be thousands of
miles away at the time seems pennywise.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On 2021-04-05 4:11 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:

> So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
> save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
> just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.

I had a problem with mine not rinsing well last year. I knew that you
are supposed to clean out the filter, and I thought it looked okay, but
what the heck, I would take it out and clean it again. That time I
pulled out the tube that the screen slips over. It turned out to be
almost completely clogged.
>
> And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
> these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
> bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
>
> https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
>
> Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
> they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
> and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.
>

lol. Maybe that is what what slowing the drain in my shower before I
gave it a hefty plunging job. I have had more than my share of EKGs
lately, plus a sleep study. When they are all done they give you a towel
and tell you to take off the leads. No matter how carefully you look
there is usually at least one that manages to avoid detection. The worst
was the sleep test. ..... 19 leads, and then they wake you up at 5 am
and give you a couple minutes to get cleaned up and get out.

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:14:47 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-05 4:11 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
> > save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
> > just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.
> I had a problem with mine not rinsing well last year. I knew that you
> are supposed to clean out the filter, and I thought it looked okay, but
> what the heck, I would take it out and clean it again. That time I
> pulled out the tube that the screen slips over. It turned out to be
> almost completely clogged.
> >
> > And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
> > these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
> > bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
> >
> > https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
> >
> > Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
> > they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
> > and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.
> >
> lol. Maybe that is what what slowing the drain in my shower before I
> gave it a hefty plunging job. I have had more than my share of EKGs
> lately, plus a sleep study. When they are all done they give you a towel
> and tell you to take off the leads. No matter how carefully you look
> there is usually at least one that manages to avoid detection. The worst
> was the sleep test. ..... 19 leads, and then they wake you up at 5 am
> and give you a couple minutes to get cleaned up and get out.
>
While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel, I
imagine that the experience might be similar. As they say, time is money.

--Bryan

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:29:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
> EKG.

Nah. I have an institutional-sized dishwasher with a grease trap in
the garage in the garage that I use for showering. It really speeds
up getting ready in the morning. And no washcloths required.

-sw

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT), Thomas wrote:

> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/5/2021 4:11 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> I pulled out the dishwasher to see what kind of connections I needed
>>> to replace with a new one - like if some asshole welded on the water
>>> inlet line. Nope - copper tube screw-on w/hardwired electrical.
>>>
>>> Then I see this little pamphlet sticking out from on top of one of
>>> motors and I unfold it and the first thing I see is "If the motor
>>> just hmmmmmmmmm's.:". Oh shit, you mean I may be able to fix this
>>> damned thing?
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/pLvzmbpf/Dishwasher-Service.jpg
>>>
>>> I reached down into the sump and pulled outg a piece of plastic that
>>> obviously been there for 20+ years, now with washed smooth edges
>>> from water and detergent erosion. I think it was part of an orange
>>> peeler, but not sure.
>>>
>>> But the real culprit was probably the semi-rigid plastic EKG lead
>>> that blocked the grinder/drain intake.
>>>
>>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...3316147&rt=rud
>>>
>>> So good as new now! But I kinda wanted a new dishwasher, but I'll
>>> save the $700 and live with this one for another 33 years. Probably
>>> just go buy a bunch of domains I'll never use instead.
>>>
>>> And last year when my shower drain was plugged I pulled out one of
>>> these style EKG leads with a coat hanger. These foam ones are a
>>> bitch and they hide them on your body in places you can't see.
>>>
>>> https://www.blowoutmedical.com/3m-re...lt-2237-3.html
>>>
>>> Moral of the story is, these EKG leads will kill you! And why do
>>> they hide a service pamphlet inside the dishwasher motor assembly
>>> and not reference it in the user manual? ****ers.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> Glad you go it going again.
>>
>> The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
>> EKG.fi`dsho/ a hole
> I ripped open my washer head to find a for dummies manual. Needed that before I shot a hole in it.

And people thought I was drunk.

-sw

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel

Due to your feeling of grandiosity, you think that we have all kinds
of ideas about you. We don't. (tinw)

--
The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:41:12 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
> >While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel
> Due to your feeling of grandiosity, you think that we have all kinds
> of ideas about you. We don't. (tinw)
>
You do, Bruce. Most regulars here "have all kinds of ideas about" most
of the other regulars. You've been on Usenet long enough to know that,
so your little jab at me was just silly, especially since what you responded
to was somewhat self deprecating.
>
> --
> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

--Bryan

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:13:09 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:41:12 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel
>> Due to your feeling of grandiosity, you think that we have all kinds
>> of ideas about you. We don't. (tinw)
>>
>You do, Bruce. Most regulars here "have all kinds of ideas about" most
>of the other regulars. You've been on Usenet long enough to know that,
>so your little jab at me was just silly, especially since what you responded
>to was somewhat self deprecating.

I don't have any ideas about you and brothels. Well, as of today, I
know that you never visited one. Neither have I. Not a chance in hell,
not even if THEY paid ME.

--
The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
>> While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel
>
> Due to your feeling of grandiosity, you think that we have all kinds
> of ideas about you. We don't. (tinw)
>

<*SNIFF*>

Your nose gonna get blisters.

On 2021-04-05 4:38 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:14:47 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
> While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel,

If you did, you'd be a buysexual!

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Unfortunately, we'll have to put in a cheapo dishwasher because
> the good ones don't come in white. Luckily, I saved the old gas range from
> the rental house next door, so I can use the wiring to put in two 110 lines,
> one for the range, and one for the dishwasher. The old gas range preserves
> the mid century design, and the dishwasher in white won't stick out
> aesthetically.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/

That's the extent of the cabinetry? And that vent hood that doesn't
vent anything is just blows shit right back in your face when you're
at the stove or oven. Evil!

Move the stove, **** the vent (or reposition it if you insist) and
you'll have more room.

-sw

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> While it might surprise some folks here that I've never visited a brothel,

Dude, you know they anal sex brothels, right? A 6-hour "buffet
pass" is only $1K.

-sw

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 8:21:37 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, we'll have to put in a cheapo dishwasher because
> > the good ones don't come in white. Luckily, I saved the old gas range from
> > the rental house next door, so I can use the wiring to put in two 110 lines,
> > one for the range, and one for the dishwasher. The old gas range preserves
> > the mid century design, and the dishwasher in white won't stick out
> > aesthetically.
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
> That's the extent of the cabinetry? And that vent hood that doesn't
> vent anything is just blows shit right back in your face when you're
> at the stove or oven. Evil!
>
> Move the stove, **** the vent (or reposition it if you insist) and
> you'll have more room.
>
There is nowhere to move the stove, and a vented range hood,
while on the list, comes later.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On 4/5/2021 6:39 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:29:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
>> EKG.
>
> Nah. I have an institutional-sized dishwasher with a grease trap in
> the garage in the garage that I use for showering. It really speeds
> up getting ready in the morning. And no washcloths required.
>
> -sw

Do you use the dry cycle?

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:14:22 -0400, Gary wrote:

> On 4/5/2021 6:39 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 16:29:13 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> The real moral of the story is to not bathe in the dishwasher after and
>>> EKG.
>>
>> Nah. I have an institutional-sized dishwasher with a grease trap in
>> the garage in the garage that I use for showering. It really speeds
>> up getting ready in the morning. And no washcloths required.
>
> Do you use the dry cycle?

Only for a few seconds. It burns my feet and scroat even when I wear
thongs.

-sw

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 01:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 8:21:37 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, we'll have to put in a cheapo dishwasher because
>>> the good ones don't come in white. Luckily, I saved the old gas range from
>>> the rental house next door, so I can use the wiring to put in two 110 lines,
>>> one for the range, and one for the dishwasher. The old gas range preserves
>>> the mid century design, and the dishwasher in white won't stick out
>>> aesthetically.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
>> That's the extent of the cabinetry? And that vent hood that doesn't
>> vent anything is just blows shit right back in your face when you're
>> at the stove or oven. Evil!
>>
>> Move the stove, **** the vent (or reposition it if you insist) and
>> you'll have more room.
>>
> There is nowhere to move the stove, and a vented range hood,
> while on the list, comes later.

A dishsher on te kleft of the sink (presumeably underneath the
counter) plus a real vent hood, removes almost all of the
cabinetry.

Do yu have pictures of the rest of the kitchen, or is that picture
the whole thing? I've lived in Studio 8's that have more kitchen
than that. He must no be Food Snob Jr.

-sw

On 4/6/2021 10:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 01:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 8:21:37 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, we'll have to put in a cheapo dishwasher because
>>>> the good ones don't come in white. Luckily, I saved the old gas range from
>>>> the rental house next door, so I can use the wiring to put in two 110 lines,
>>>> one for the range, and one for the dishwasher. The old gas range preserves
>>>> the mid century design, and the dishwasher in white won't stick out
>>>> aesthetically.
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/361781...posted-public/
>>> That's the extent of the cabinetry? And that vent hood that doesn't
>>> vent anything is just blows shit right back in your face when you're
>>> at the stove or oven. Evil!
>>>
>>> Move the stove, **** the vent (or reposition it if you insist) and
>>> you'll have more room.
>>>
>> There is nowhere to move the stove, and a vented range hood,
>> while on the list, comes later.
>
> A dishsher on te kleft of the sink (presumeably underneath the
> counter) plus a real vent hood, removes almost all of the
> cabinetry.
>
> Do yu have pictures of the rest of the kitchen, or is that picture
> the whole thing? I've lived in Studio 8's that have more kitchen
> than that. He must no be Food Snob Jr.

That stove is set in an odd place. Loss of cabinet space.