On 4/12/2021 10:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/12/2021 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Sadly, I had to buy myself a wheelchair recently.Â* Sometimes I have to
>> travel a distance and can no longer do that. Fortunately I was able to
>> find an office job and will only need it sometimes currently.Â* That per
>> the spine doctor, will shift slowly over the years.
>>
>> I will have to spring for a walk-in tub before too much longer.Â* These
>> things are expensive and are all out of pocket and not tax deductable.
>>
>> I wish you contunued good health, Gary.Â* You don't know what a blessing
>> it is until it's gone.
>>
>
> Understand.Â* I used to like walking but can do little now.
>
> Walk in tubs are nice if you really want a tub.Â* I took the tub out and
> put in a nice large shower instead.Â* To step in it is only about 2" and
> you can have a seat.Â* Since it replaced the tub, it is 60" and big
> enough that I could shower with my wife to assist her in the seat.
>
> If you like to sit in a tub and relax, the walk in may be a good choice
> but if you just want to get clean, the shower may be more suitable.

I was going to suggest the walk in shower with a bench, too, Ed. Those
bath-things look nice but unless you really need to soak in a tub (with
jets or whatever), a shower with a bench and hand rails seems so much
easier.

I have a deep old jetted bathtub in the master bathroom. I hold onto a
handle (removable, I bought it at Walmart for my mother) clamped on the
side of the tub to help to step over and into it. Not because I'm all
that old and fragile, simply it's too darn tall. I never take baths in
it, only showers. So yes, if I ever renovate that bathroom I will
defintely replace it with a shower stall made to fit the space.

Meanwhile, I have a standard tub/shower in the 2nd bathroom. If the one
in the master bath gets to be too much to step over and into I can use
the other one. That clamped on handle will also travel.

Jill

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:23:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/13/2021 6:54 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:49:50 -0500, "cshenk"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 5:59:13 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Two friends
>>>>> with those 'walk in' tubs say they would never do it again. What
>>>>> they both dislike is having to sit there until the thing slowly
>>>>> empties enough to open the door. One has 2 drains but it is not
>>>>> significantly faster emptying. Both of them recommended walk in
>>>>> shower with seat when I was changing out the bathroom.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't use my walk-in tub for baths very much but fortunately, mine
>>>> does drain quickly when I do opt for a soak. BUT, if their tubs
>>>> drain slowly they should have opted for the 'power drain' feature.
>>>> It will drain a full tub in under 3 minutes. Can it be retro-fitted?
>>>> I haven't a clue.
>>>
>>> My other need is a tub assistive device that lets me stand up. Right
>>> now I have a rail at the back along the tile and a simple tension one
>>> hooked over the opening side. I use both to get back up. Humm...
>>
>> Grab bars are easy to install so long as you know how to locate studs
>> etc.
>>
>
>Its a business here with lots of new houses and an older population.
>Just call Mr. Grab Bar.
>
>I also had one by the toilet to assist my wife. Of course, the "comfort
>height" toilets make it easier too.

Too true! When I was replacing my old toilet several years ago the
then Super told me to go with a comfort height toilet and I didn't
know what he meant. He took me to show me the toilet he had just
installed in the supers unit and when he said to me to sit down on it
and I would see the difference (I did lol) but I asked him if it was
not weird that I was in his unit trying out his toilet seat etc!! I
am still grateful to this day to him though, for my higher toilet!

On 2021-04-13 7:37 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/13/2021 5:53 PM, heyjoe wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 21:13:33 -0400
>> in Message-ID: >
>> Dave Smith wrote :
>>
>>> Then when he had used up everything and
>>> could not afford anymore unpaid leave he would come to work sick.
>>
>> When he showed up to work "sick"
>> did he infect other workers and cause them to take time off
>> OR
>> did he fail to do his job
>>
> Sounds like maybe the guy really was constantly sick and didn't have a
> choice.Â* Could go either way.Â* We weren't there.

He was sick in the head is what he was. He was a sneaky ******* that
usually shaved at least an hour off his work day by coming in late and
leaving early. He was suspicious to the point of paranoia and he had
every reason to be. He was always pulling something sneaky and he was
afraid of getting caught.
>
>> His "Snoopervisor" is to blame for allowing this kind of behavior.

I used to get a lot of complaints about him, and would pass them on to
the boss. After a while I just gave the complainers the boss' number so
they could call him. It was kind of funny after one incident where my
partner and I complained about him. The boss told us not to worry about
Guy, he was his problem. The next day the boss was trying to get hold
of him and, as usual, Guy was not answering. He called me and asked me
where Guy was. My answer... I don't know. He is not my problem"




> Depends on the company rules.Â* In some companies if you are sick and
> have no paid sick leave left you are allowed to use your vacation days
> as sick leave.Â* The difficulty comes in with last minute calling in sick
> because there may be others out (or scheduled off) then, too.Â* AFAIK
> those last minute vacation days taken as sick days require a doctor's
> note.Â* Especially when you have an employee who is always out sick.
>

When I first started there I was on contract.... no vacation time and no
sick time. I had a great boss. I had only been there about three months
and the boss asked me how my wife was doing, He knew she was pregnant. I
said he was in the hospital having the baby. He said "What are you doing
here?" I said I didn't have any leave for that. He sent me home and told
me to come back when the baby was born. That was on Tuesday. It was a
slow process. Her water had broken but after two days they started to
induce her. Our son was born around 7 am on Friday. I went home to get
changed for work and called to say I would be a little late, that he had
just been born. He said "See you Monday".

When I went in on Monday I had to fill out the register and didn't know
what code to enter for my time off. He told be to use the usual number.
I said, but I wasn't here. He said "yes you were" . I said no, I was at
the hospital with my wife. He said "No you weren't. You were here. I saw
you".

My jobs got me in contact with a lot of different patrol yards,
construction sites, offices and jobs crews. There were a number of
good supervisors. There were also a few who would bend over backwards to
screw their staff.


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On 2021-04-13 8:02 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:23:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:




> Too true! When I was replacing my old toilet several years ago the
> then Super told me to go with a comfort height toilet and I didn't
> know what he meant. He took me to show me the toilet he had just
> installed in the supers unit and when he said to me to sit down on it
> and I would see the difference (I did lol) but I asked him if it was
> not weird that I was in his unit trying out his toilet seat etc!! I
> am still grateful to this day to him though, for my higher toilet!
>


Toilets toilets.... argh About three weeks ago I had to change the
flush valve in the toilet downstairs. The flapper valve was shot. I
replace the whole assembly and that involved removing the tank. The two
bolts were surprisingly easy to removed with a screwdriver and two
fingers. It took me only about 40 minutes to remove the old parts and
get everything back together.

Yesterday we had a similar problem with the upstairs toilet. it had been
installed within a year of the other, so I figured it would be about the
same condition. Not so. One bolt unscrewed easily. The other.... not so
much. The slot on the bolt was corroded.The bolt was too long to get a
socket wrench on. I tried to saw through it with a hack saw blade but
after 15 minutes I was not getting anywhere. I had to get my wife in to
hold a set of vice grips on it while I cranked it bit bu bit from below
and got it far enough to get the socket on it. Finally....after more
than an hour I was able to get the tank off.

It took just a couple minutes to get the old fill valve and flush valve
off and a couple more to get the new parts on.


With both toilets sporting new workings I probably won't have the deal
with that again in my life time.
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On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 11:12:08 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:02:40 -0700 (PDT), Geoff Rove wrote:
>
> > These last few years I'd only use my garden grown pomederos.
> > But with my gov. money I've resumed use grocery ones.
> It's good to see *someone* at least putting their stimulus money
> back into the American economy rather than growing their own and
> buying Chinese big screen TV's. They were grown in Mexico, right?
>
> -sw

I check the label for Made in USA, likely Florida. Some Canadian green house ones are on shelves too.

On 2021 Apr 11, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in >):

> The idea is to give a _lot_ of people some extra money so they'll go out
> and spend it. There were additional expanded unemployment benefits
> for those in industries that were stricken by the shutdowns. My
> military-industrial complex job was deemed "essential", so I've been
> working right along.

Military-industrial complex used to be a thing. Industry split for China, and
points beyond, because of governmental over-regulation. Look to Detroit for
confirmation.
Now we have a government-information technology complex which makes us far
less capable of defending ourselves. One nuke and the whole shebang
collapses. Ain´t life grand!

leo

On 2021 Apr 13, , Dave Smith wrote
(in article >):

> Then the blame bounces back to the wealthy people people and
> corporations who fund campaigns and lobby groups to get the laws with
> the loopholes written into them.

Fortunately, politicians who accept the graft remain unseen among the blind.
Corporations are evil. Politicians are the unlucky saps who are manipulated
into accepting the graft. Thanks for the insight!

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 2:35:09 AM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 11, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> (in >):
>
> > The idea is to give a _lot_ of people some extra money so they'll go out
> > and spend it. There were additional expanded unemployment benefits
> > for those in industries that were stricken by the shutdowns. My
> > military-industrial complex job was deemed "essential", so I've been
> > working right along.
>
> Military-industrial complex used to be a thing. Industry split for China, and
> points beyond, because of governmental over-regulation. Look to Detroit for
> confirmation.
> Now we have a government-information technology complex which makes us far
> less capable of defending ourselves. One nuke and the whole shebang
> collapses. Ain´t life grand!
>
> leo

My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and mobile
artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear submarines, etc. Some
civilian aircraft and satellite applications as well.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in >):

> My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and mobile
> artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear submarines, etc. Some
> civilian aircraft and satellite applications as well.

Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in China. We
can´t even produce a F-250 now.
If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our own
stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled it. There´s
something awfully wrong with that.

leo

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:10:53 AM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> (in >):
> > My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and mobile
> > artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear submarines, etc. Some
> > civilian aircraft and satellite applications as well.
> Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in China. We
> can´t even produce a F-250 now.

Yeah, I know. We do some sales in China. There are I/O boards that
the U.S. government won't let us sell to them, but they can source them
there.

> If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our own
> stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled it. There´s
> something awfully wrong with that.

No argument from me. The military should have put its foot down when
that offshoring started, especially with chips and other electronic components.

Cindy Hamilton

Leo wrote:

> On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> (in >):
>
> > My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and
> > mobile artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear
> > submarines, etc. Some civilian aircraft and satellite applications
> > as well.
>
> Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in
> China. We can´t even produce a F-250 now.
> If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our own
> stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled it.
> There´s something awfully wrong with that.
>
> leo

Why is that wrong? Can't you make smarter stuff than steel?

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On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:37:10 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Leo wrote:
>
> > On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > (in >):
> >
> > > My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and
> > > mobile artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear
> > > submarines, etc. Some civilian aircraft and satellite applications
> > > as well.
> >
> > Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in
> > China. We canæ„’ even produce a F-250 now.
> > If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our own
> > stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled it.
> > Thereæ„€ something awfully wrong with that.
> >
> > leo
>
> Why is that wrong? Can't you make smarter stuff than steel?

It's wrong that so much of our critical infrastructure manufacturing
is in hostile hands. Because chip making is dirty (and Chinese labor
is cheap), we allowed manufacturers to move their operations
overseas.

It would take time to ramp up the capability to manufacture some of
those goods, in the event that geopolitical events made it necessary
to do so.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:37:10 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > Leo wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > > (in >):
> > >
> > > > My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks
> > > > (and mobile artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes,
> > > > nuclear submarines, etc. Some civilian aircraft and satellite
> > > > applications as well.
> > >
> > > Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in
> > > China. We canæ„’ even produce a F-250 now.
> > > If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our
> > > own stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled
> > > it. Thereæ„€ something awfully wrong with that.
> > >
> > > leo
> >
> > Why is that wrong? Can't you make smarter stuff than steel?
>
> It's wrong that so much of our critical infrastructure manufacturing
> is in hostile hands. Because chip making is dirty (and Chinese labor
> is cheap), we allowed manufacturers to move their operations
> overseas.
>
> It would take time to ramp up the capability to manufacture some of
> those goods, in the event that geopolitical events made it necessary
> to do so.

The whole world has let its dependency on China get out of hand,
blinded as we all are by $$$. It's bad. It's like being dependent on
the Nazis.

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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> Too true! When I was replacing my old toilet several years ago the
> then Super told me to go with a comfort height toilet and I didn't
> know what he meant. He took me to show me the toilet he had just
> installed in the supers unit and when he said to me to sit down on it
> and I would see the difference (I did lol) but I asked him if it was
> not weird that I was in his unit trying out his toilet seat etc!! I
> am still grateful to this day to him though, for my higher toilet!

Nothing weird about sitting on his toilet seat to try it out unless you
pulled your pants down to do it. lol

In article >, cshenk1
@virginia-beach.net says...
>
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > On 4/12/2021 8:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Sadly, I had to buy myself a wheelchair recently. Sometimes I have
> > > to travel a distance and can no longer do that. Fortunately I was
> > > able to find an office job and will only need it sometimes
> > > currently. That per the spine doctor, will shift slowly over the
> > > years.
> > >
> > > I will have to spring for a walk-in tub before too much longer.
> > > These things are expensive and are all out of pocket and not tax
> > > deductable.
> > >
> > > I wish you contunued good health, Gary. You don't know what a
> > > blessing it is until it's gone.
> > >
> >
> > Understand. I used to like walking but can do little now.
> >
> > Walk in tubs are nice if you really want a tub. I took the tub out
> > and put in a nice large shower instead. To step in it is only about
> > 2" and you can have a seat. Since it replaced the tub, it is 60" and
> > big enough that I could shower with my wife to assist her in the seat.
> >
> > If you like to sit in a tub and relax, the walk in may be a good
> > choice but if you just want to get clean, the shower may be more
> > suitable.
>
> Naw, I *LOVE* long soaks in the tub.

It doesn't take a great deal more disability, before you won't be able
to rise when wet, unaided, from recumbent-seated to stand (and disabled
Don won;t be able to help you). Happened to my neighbours last year.

A year or so ago, my neighbour called me in a terrible panic because
his wife had got stuck in the bath and he couldn't get her out. She
probably weighs 20 stone but walks unaided. He and I together could not
get that big heavy slippery helpless whale to sit up or kneel up, let
alone stand up.

By now her husband was so distressed he was grey, crying, shaking and
could hardly breathe and I was afraid he might have a heart attack. The
wife was wet, chilled and cold and just couldn't move.

In the end I had to dial 999 for an ambulance crew, and two young male
paramedics hauled her out onto dry land.

She's never dared get in the bath since.

Janet UK

On 2021-04-14 5:10 a.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> (in >):
>
>> My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and mobile
>> artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear submarines, etc. Some
>> civilian aircraft and satellite applications as well.
>
> Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in China. We
> can´t even produce a F-250 now.
> If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our own
> stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled it. There´s
> something awfully wrong with that.

The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
participation in it. Germany and Japan had built up massive forces
leading up to the war but were unable to replace their losses. They were
losing planes, ships and tanks faster than they could replace them. The
Allies, OTOH, were building them faster than they were losing them.

On 2021-04-14 5:21 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our own
>> stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled it. There´s
>> something awfully wrong with that.
>
> No argument from me. The military should have put its foot down when
> that offshoring started, especially with chips and other electronic components.
>

Just thinking about the Gulf War where the US had managed to infect
Iraqi computers in advance of the hostilities.

On 2021-04-14 9:08 a.m., Janet wrote:

> It doesn't take a great deal more disability, before you won't be able
> to rise when wet, unaided, from recumbent-seated to stand (and disabled
> Don won;t be able to help you). Happened to my neighbours last year.
>
> A year or so ago, my neighbour called me in a terrible panic because
> his wife had got stuck in the bath and he couldn't get her out. She
> probably weighs 20 stone but walks unaided. He and I together could not
> get that big heavy slippery helpless whale to sit up or kneel up, let
> alone stand up.
>
> By now her husband was so distressed he was grey, crying, shaking and
> could hardly breathe and I was afraid he might have a heart attack. The
> wife was wet, chilled and cold and just couldn't move.
>
> In the end I had to dial 999 for an ambulance crew, and two young male
> paramedics hauled her out onto dry land.
>


I can see that happening. I got tossed off a horse in a lesson and did
something to my back. It hurt to much to continue the lesson. I had a
hard time getting into my car and a harder time to get out. I made my
way slowly upstairs and figured a hot bath would be the ticket. It felt
great and I soaked for a good long time. The it came time to get out. I
couldn't. It hurt too much. I had to wait in that cool water until my
wife got home.

It might helped on the long run. As sore as I was at noon, that bath and
a couple Robaxacet had me back to normal bu dinner time.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:03:08 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> Too true! When I was replacing my old toilet several years ago the
>> then Super told me to go with a comfort height toilet and I didn't
>> know what he meant. He took me to show me the toilet he had just
>> installed in the supers unit and when he said to me to sit down on it
>> and I would see the difference (I did lol) but I asked him if it was
>> not weird that I was in his unit trying out his toilet seat etc!! I
>> am still grateful to this day to him though, for my higher toilet!
>
>Nothing weird about sitting on his toilet seat to try it out unless you
>pulled your pants down to do it. lol
>
>
Of course not! It seemed weird to me, he was always issuing orders
being a retired Sgt. Major but we got along well as early on I
reminded him he was not in the army now!!

On 4/14/2021 9:08 AM, Janet wrote:

> It doesn't take a great deal more disability, before you won't be able
> to rise when wet, unaided, from recumbent-seated to stand (and disabled
> Don won;t be able to help you). Happened to my neighbours last year.
>
> A year or so ago, my neighbour called me in a terrible panic because
> his wife had got stuck in the bath and he couldn't get her out. She
> probably weighs 20 stone but walks unaided. He and I together could not
> get that big heavy slippery helpless whale to sit up or kneel up, let
> alone stand up.
>
> By now her husband was so distressed he was grey, crying, shaking and
> could hardly breathe and I was afraid he might have a heart attack. The
> wife was wet, chilled and cold and just couldn't move.
>
> In the end I had to dial 999 for an ambulance crew, and two young male
> paramedics hauled her out onto dry land.
>
> She's never dared get in the bath since.
>
> Janet UK
>

As we get older that can happen to any of us. I've never fallen but I
still use the grab bars in the shower to prevent a fall. I'm not as
agile as I was 50 years ago.

For this side of the pond, 20 stone is 280 lb. Not an easy lift out of
a tub.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:46:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/14/2021 9:08 AM, Janet wrote:
>
>> It doesn't take a great deal more disability, before you won't be able
>> to rise when wet, unaided, from recumbent-seated to stand (and disabled
>> Don won;t be able to help you). Happened to my neighbours last year.
>>
>> A year or so ago, my neighbour called me in a terrible panic because
>> his wife had got stuck in the bath and he couldn't get her out. She
>> probably weighs 20 stone but walks unaided. He and I together could not
>> get that big heavy slippery helpless whale to sit up or kneel up, let
>> alone stand up.
>>
>> By now her husband was so distressed he was grey, crying, shaking and
>> could hardly breathe and I was afraid he might have a heart attack. The
>> wife was wet, chilled and cold and just couldn't move.
>>
>> In the end I had to dial 999 for an ambulance crew, and two young male
>> paramedics hauled her out onto dry land.
>>
>> She's never dared get in the bath since.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
>As we get older that can happen to any of us. I've never fallen but I
>still use the grab bars in the shower to prevent a fall. I'm not as
>agile as I was 50 years ago.
>
>For this side of the pond, 20 stone is 280 lb. Not an easy lift out of
>a tub.

The woman opposite me fell in her hallway after having had her
shoulder bone replaced. She's large and I didn't dare try help her up
because of the shoulder. She was furious with me because when I
called the emergency number I asked them to send 2 or 3 husky,
goodlooking young men. Have to say, they did send good lookers

In article >,
Dave Smith says...
> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
> participation in it.
>
Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
your ass like above.

How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?
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In article >, says...
>
> In article >,
> Dave Smith says...
> > The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
> > production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
> > participation in it.
> >
> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> your ass like above.
>
> How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?
^^^^
One too many did's
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On 4/14/2021 12:21 PM, David Crossley wrote:
> In article >,
> Dave Smith says...
>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>> participation in it.
>>
> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> your ass like above.
>
> How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?
> --
> Regards
> David Crossley
>


WWII military deaths/population:

Canada: 45,400/11,267,000 = 0.403%

US: 416,800/117,000,000 = 0.284%

On 4/14/2021 3:38 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 4/14/2021 12:21 PM, David Crossley wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Dave Smith says...
>>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>>> participation in it.
>>>
>> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
>> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
>> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
>> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
>> your ass like above.
>>
>> How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?
>> --
>> Regards
>> David Crossley
>>
>
>
> WWII military deaths/population:
>
> Canada: 45,400/11,267,000 = 0.403%
>
> US: 416,800/117,000,000Â* =Â* 0.284%

Many people do not realize how many deaths total were inflicted by WWII

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ies-by-country

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:23:29 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/14/2021 3:38 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > On 4/14/2021 12:21 PM, David Crossley wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> Dave Smith says...
> >>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
> >>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
> >>> participation in it.
> >>>
> >> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
> >> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> >> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> >> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> >> your ass like above.
> >>
> >> How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> David Crossley
> >>
> >
> >
> > WWII military deaths/population:
> >
> > Canada: 45,400/11,267,000 = 0.403%
> >
> > US: 416,800/117,000,000 = 0.284%
> Many people do not realize how many deaths total were inflicted by WWII
>
> https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ies-by-country


The USSR's toll is staggering...

Some of that loss is due to Stalin's refusal to see or even consider the German threat, and also his purges of the Soviet Officer Corps pre - war...

--
Best
Greg

On 4/14/2021 11:53 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:46:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/14/2021 9:08 AM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>> It doesn't take a great deal more disability, before you won't be able
>>> to rise when wet, unaided, from recumbent-seated to stand (and disabled
>>> Don won;t be able to help you). Happened to my neighbours last year.
>>>
>>> A year or so ago, my neighbour called me in a terrible panic because
>>> his wife had got stuck in the bath and he couldn't get her out. She
>>> probably weighs 20 stone but walks unaided. He and I together could not
>>> get that big heavy slippery helpless whale to sit up or kneel up, let
>>> alone stand up.
>>>
>>> By now her husband was so distressed he was grey, crying, shaking and
>>> could hardly breathe and I was afraid he might have a heart attack. The
>>> wife was wet, chilled and cold and just couldn't move.
>>>
>>> In the end I had to dial 999 for an ambulance crew, and two young male
>>> paramedics hauled her out onto dry land.
>>>
>>> She's never dared get in the bath since.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>
>> As we get older that can happen to any of us. I've never fallen but I
>> still use the grab bars in the shower to prevent a fall. I'm not as
>> agile as I was 50 years ago.
>>
>> For this side of the pond, 20 stone is 280 lb. Not an easy lift out of
>> a tub.
>
> The woman opposite me fell in her hallway after having had her
> shoulder bone replaced. She's large and I didn't dare try help her up
> because of the shoulder. She was furious with me because when I
> called the emergency number I asked them to send 2 or 3 husky,
> goodlooking young men. Have to say, they did send good lookers
>
Better for you to summon help than to inadvertently injure her (or
yourself) while trying to assist!

Jill

On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> In article >,
> Dave Smith says...
>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>> participation in it.
>>
> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> your ass like above.

It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of posts
from the past. Quelle surpris.

I had not been referring to the American military effort. I might have
address the number of American casualties in the first two years of the
war. I was specifically addressing the issue of the tremendous impact of
American industry ramping up to produce arms, ammunition, tanks, planes,
and ships. That should have been clear if your attention span had
allowed you to get to the next two sentences " Germany and Japan had
built up massive forces leading up to the war but were unable to replace
their losses. They were losing planes, ships and tanks faster than they
could replace them. The Allies, OTOH, were building them faster than
they were losing them. "
>
> How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?

We had 42,000 killed, and given that our population was 1/10th that of
the US, that puts our death rate a little higher.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:22:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Dave Smith says...
>>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>>> participation in it.
>>>
>> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
>> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
>> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
>> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
>> your ass like above.
>
>It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of posts
>from the past. Quelle surpris.

It's even more curious that you think David is new here. There's
dozens of posts going back a long time.


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On 4/14/2021 1:58 PM, GM wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:23:29 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/14/2021 3:38 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 4/14/2021 12:21 PM, David Crossley wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Dave Smith says...
>>>>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>>>>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>>>>> participation in it.
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
>>>> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
>>>> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
>>>> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
>>>> your ass like above.
>>>>
>>>> How many did casualties did Canada have in WWII?
>>>> --
>>>> Regards
>>>> David Crossley
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WWII military deaths/population:
>>>
>>> Canada: 45,400/11,267,000 = 0.403%
>>>
>>> US: 416,800/117,000,000 = 0.284%
>> Many people do not realize how many deaths total were inflicted by WWII
>>
>> https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ies-by-country
>
>
> The USSR's toll is staggering...
>
> Some of that loss is due to Stalin's refusal to see or even consider the German threat, and also his purges of the Soviet Officer Corps pre - war...
>


He also liked the human wave approach, as did China in Korea. Probably
thinking that after they won the war, fewer mouths to feed and rise up
would be beneficial.

In article >, says...
>
> On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Dave Smith says...
> >> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
> >> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
> >> participation in it.
> >>
> > Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
> > had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> > always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> > to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> > your ass like above.
>
> It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of posts
> from the past. Quelle surpris.
>
That's *your* problem.

What's really curious is how you can minimize 407,316 killed and 671,278 wounded
USA military personnel, that's almost more than the United Kingdom and
Canada combined, and yes our industrial prowess and contribution was
unmatched.

Are you sure you're not part French, you anti USA Canadian blowhard?
--
Regards
David Crossley

On 2021-04-15 2:04 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Dave Smith says...
>>>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>>>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>>>> participation in it.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
>>> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
>>> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
>>> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
>>> your ass like above.
>>
>> It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of posts
>> from the past. Quelle surpris.
>>
> That's *your* problem.
>
> What's really curious is how you can minimize 407,316 killed and 671,278 wounded
> USA military personnel, that's almost more than the United Kingdom and
> Canada combined, and yes our industrial prowess and contribution was
> unmatched.

You are a blithering idiot. The conversation was about the importance of
maintaining control over the production of war materials.


>

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In article >, says...
>
> On 2021-04-15 2:04 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> >>> In article >,
> >>> Dave Smith says...
> >>>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
> >>>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
> >>>> participation in it.
> >>>>
> >>> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
> >>> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> >>> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> >>> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> >>> your ass like above.
> >>
> >> It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of posts
> >> from the past. Quelle surpris.
> >>
> > That's *your* problem.
> >
> > What's really curious is how you can minimize 407,316 killed and 671,278 wounded
> > USA military personnel, that's almost more than the United Kingdom and
> > Canada combined, and yes our industrial prowess and contribution was
> > unmatched.
>
> You are a blithering idiot.
>
You try to re-write history again and *I'm* the blithering idiot?
>
> > Are you sure you're not part French, you anti USA Canadian blowhard?
>
I'll take your silence as a yes.
--
Regards
David Crossley

David Crossley wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Dave Smith says...
>>>> The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to military
>>>> production than with its troops. That is not said to belittle their
>>>> participation in it.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like your trying to belittle the *fact* that the USA
>>> had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
>>> always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
>>> to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
>>> your ass like above.
>>
>> It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of posts
>> from the past. Quelle surpris.
>>
> That's *your* problem.
>
> What's really curious is how you can minimize 407,316 killed and 671,278 wounded
> USA military personnel, that's almost more than the United Kingdom and
> Canada combined, and yes our industrial prowess and contribution was
> unmatched.
>
> Are you sure you're not part French, you anti USA Canadian blowhard?
> --
> Regards
> David Crossley
>

Wow, I can't wait till you get around to the dutch butt-sniffers.

Master doctor bruce hates americans and anything american.

I'll introduce you, Oh doctor, where are you?

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:47:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 2:35:09 AM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
> > On 2021 Apr 11, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > (in >):
> >
> > > The idea is to give a _lot_ of people some extra money so they'll go out
> > > and spend it. There were additional expanded unemployment benefits
> > > for those in industries that were stricken by the shutdowns. My
> > > military-industrial complex job was deemed "essential", so I've been
> > > working right along.
> >
> > Military-industrial complex used to be a thing. Industry split for China, and
> > points beyond, because of governmental over-regulation. Look to Detroit for
> > confirmation.
> > Now we have a government-information technology complex which makes us far
> > less capable of defending ourselves. One nuke and the whole shebang
> > collapses. Ain´t life grand!
> >
> > leo
> My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks (and mobile
> artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes, nuclear submarines, etc. Some
> civilian aircraft and satellite applications as well.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

The Saudis ??

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:56:37 AM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:37:10 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > Leo wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2021 Apr 14, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > > > (in >):
> > > >
> > > > > My customers are on the design end of military hardwa tanks
> > > > > (and mobile artillery), aircraft engines, aircraft brakes,
> > > > > nuclear submarines, etc. Some civilian aircraft and satellite
> > > > > applications as well.
> > > >
> > > > Sure. But the chips that operate the high-tech gear are made in
> > > > China. We canæ„’ even produce a F-250 now.
> > > > If we die individually or as a nation, it will be because of our
> > > > own stupidity. Hell, Japan makes more steel than we do. I googled
> > > > it. Thereæ„€ something awfully wrong with that.
> > > >
> > > > leo
> > >
> > > Why is that wrong? Can't you make smarter stuff than steel?
> >
> > It's wrong that so much of our critical infrastructure manufacturing
> > is in hostile hands. Because chip making is dirty (and Chinese labor
> > is cheap), we allowed manufacturers to move their operations
> > overseas.
> >
> > It would take time to ramp up the capability to manufacture some of
> > those goods, in the event that geopolitical events made it necessary
> > to do so.
> The whole world has let its dependency on China get out of hand,
> blinded as we all are by $$$. It's bad. It's like being dependent on
> the Nazis.

Some people like Audi, VW, etc. Some would never buy any.
The GE Chairman Jack Welch dreamed of floating factories that could sail to the cheapest labor.
How''s that working out now for you globalists ??

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-14 9:08 a.m., Janet wrote:
>
> > It doesn't take a great deal more disability, before you won't be
> > able to rise when wet, unaided, from recumbent-seated to stand (and
> > disabled Don won;t be able to help you). Happened to my neighbours
> > last year.
> >
> > A year or so ago, my neighbour called me in a terrible panic
> > because his wife had got stuck in the bath and he couldn't get
> > her out. She probably weighs 20 stone but walks unaided. He and I
> > together could not get that big heavy slippery helpless whale to
> > sit up or kneel up, let alone stand up.
> >
> > By now her husband was so distressed he was grey, crying, shaking
> > and could hardly breathe and I was afraid he might have a heart
> > attack. The wife was wet, chilled and cold and just couldn't move.
> >
> > In the end I had to dial 999 for an ambulance crew, and two young
> > male paramedics hauled her out onto dry land.
> >
>
>
> I can see that happening. I got tossed off a horse in a lesson and
> did something to my back. It hurt to much to continue the lesson. I
> had a hard time getting into my car and a harder time to get out. I
> made my way slowly upstairs and figured a hot bath would be the
> ticket. It felt great and I soaked for a good long time. The it came
> time to get out. I couldn't. It hurt too much. I had to wait in that
> cool water until my wife got home.
>
> It might helped on the long run. As sore as I was at noon, that bath
> and a couple Robaxacet had me back to normal by dinner time.

A key thing is I never recline in the tub. I sit up facing the rest of
the bathroom. I wish now I'd had a grab bar installed on each wall but
when we did it, I was 7 years younger and didn't know I would need that
later. As it is, I have one over the lip to the rest of the room.

Gary wrote:

> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > Too true! When I was replacing my old toilet several years ago the
> > then Super told me to go with a comfort height toilet and I didn't
> > know what he meant. He took me to show me the toilet he had just
> > installed in the supers unit and when he said to me to sit down on
> > it and I would see the difference (I did lol) but I asked him if it
> > was not weird that I was in his unit trying out his toilet seat
> > etc!! I am still grateful to this day to him though, for my higher
> > toilet!
>
> Nothing weird about sitting on his toilet seat to try it out unless
> you pulled your pants down to do it. lol

Yup! For me, a 'comfort height' is a lower one. At now 5ft (I've
shrunk due to spinal damage by 1.5 inches), 18 inches is best. They
have those really high ones in the disability stalls in bathrooms. I
end up perched with my feet dangling in the air.

It's a real trial getting a GOOD computer chair too. The manufacturers
are so concerned about 6ft5in people, they forget there are more 5ft or
so folks than them.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-15 2:04 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On 2021-04-14 3:21 p.m., David Crossley wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > Dave Smith says...
> > > > > The US helped win WWII more by converting its industry to
> > > > > military production than with its troops. That is not said to
> > > > > belittle their participation in it.
> > > > >
> > > > Sounds like your trying to belittle the fact that the USA
> > > > had 407,316 soldiers killed and 671,278 wounded in WWII, you
> > > > always seem to be putting down the USA Military, I'll be sure
> > > > to point it out more often now, especially when you talk out
> > > > your ass like above.
> > >
> > > It's curious that you are a new name here but seem to be aware of
> > > posts from the past. Quelle surpris.
> > >
> > That's your problem.
> >
> > What's really curious is how you can minimize 407,316 killed and
> > 671,278 wounded USA military personnel, that's almost more than the
> > United Kingdom and Canada combined, and yes our industrial prowess
> > and contribution was unmatched.
>
> You are a blithering idiot. The conversation was about the importance
> of maintaining control over the production of war materials.
>
>
> >

Correct.

We (Canada too) were replacing materials at a huge rate. Faster than
we were losing them. A shred of memory tells me there were a few
things Canada excelled at producing and I think they sort of combined
on it with the US?

cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> Too true! When I was replacing my old toilet several years ago the
>>> then Super told me to go with a comfort height toilet and I didn't
>>> know what he meant. He took me to show me the toilet he had just
>>> installed in the supers unit and when he said to me to sit down on
>>> it and I would see the difference (I did lol) but I asked him if it
>>> was not weird that I was in his unit trying out his toilet seat
>>> etc!! I am still grateful to this day to him though, for my higher
>>> toilet!
>>
>> Nothing weird about sitting on his toilet seat to try it out unless
>> you pulled your pants down to do it. lol
>
> Yup! For me, a 'comfort height' is a lower one. At now 5ft (I've
> shrunk due to spinal damage by 1.5 inches), 18 inches is best. They
> have those really high ones in the disability stalls in bathrooms. I
> end up perched with my feet dangling in the air.
>
> It's a real trial getting a GOOD computer chair too. The manufacturers
> are so concerned about 6ft5in people, they forget there are more 5ft or
> so folks than them.
>

I bet yoose left handed too?