On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:54:04 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-29 1:50 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 29/04/2021 20:16, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> >>> That button is worthless if you fall and are out cold. I had a phone
> >>> not six feet away but was unable to use it.
> >>
> >> "Cuts and bruises" wouldn't stop me from reaching a phone. A broken
> >> hip, yes possibly if I'm also old and frail.
> >>
> >>> The best one can do when home alone is to have a neighbor check on you.
> >>
> >> You're conscious, unable to move much, the neighbour just checked on
> >> you and they won't be back for 23 hours. There you lay, cursing your
> >> own stubbornness.
> >>
> > When I shower (assuming I'm here on my own), I put my phone on the
> > floor, on a towel. If I should fall, I have a good chance of being able
> > to grab the towel and pull the phone toward me.
> >
> I think I'll have to do that. I fell this morning when I got out of the
> shower and the bathmat slipped. Now my left leg is aching.


"Get thee behind me, Satan...!!!"

The reply of Jesus when Satan offered him all the kingdoms of the world if Jesus would worship him. Jesus spoke these words on another occasion. He told his disciples that he would have to be killed and then raised from the dead, and Peter objected that this should not happen. Jesus saw Peter as a tempter, trying to talk him out of doing what he was put on Earth to do. He then spoke the same words, €œGet thee behind me, Satan,€� to Peter...

;-P

--
Best
Greg

On 4/29/2021 11:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2021 11:10 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> the doctor at the rehab figured I was out cold for a
>> half hour.Â* A cell phone would have been worthless.Â* Everyone at the
>> rehab agreed that it's best to let a neighbor know to check on you
>> when you will be home alone... the rehab staff said that it's very
>> common for falls to occur while someone is home alone, and in most
>> cases having a cell phone or button to press is of no value if you are
>> out cold.
>> The only reason I got a cell phone is in case of car problems, there
>> are no more pay phones.Â* I never have a desire to chat while driving.
>> During the more than five years I have the flip phone I used it once,
>> I called my land line to accertain that it works.Â* I never turn it on,
>> it's only for an emergency.Â* No one has the number, I don't remember
>> the number. I wrote it on the phone case.Â* All I do with the Flip
>> Phone it to charge it the first of each month.
>>
>>
> No, a cell phone would have gotten you help days sooner.Â* Once you awoke
> you reach in your pocked, turn it on, get help.

I get the impression he wasn't wearing pants.

> Your neighbor can be
> another 24 hours to check on you.
>
> The fall was not avoidable but laying there four days certainly was.
> Numerous ways.

I agree. Still glad he's okay.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/29/2021 11:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/29/2021 11:10 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> > the doctor at the rehab figured I was out cold for a
> > > half hour.Â* A cell phone would have been worthless.Â* Everyone at
> > > the rehab agreed that it's best to let a neighbor know to check
> > > on you when you will be home alone... the rehab staff said that
> > > it's very common for falls to occur while someone is home alone,
> > > and in most cases having a cell phone or button to press is of no
> > > value if you are out cold.
> > > The only reason I got a cell phone is in case of car problems,
> > > there are no more pay phones.Â* I never have a desire to chat
> > > while driving. During the more than five years I have the flip
> > > phone I used it once, I called my land line to accertain that it
> > > works.Â* I never turn it on, it's only for an emergency.Â* No one
> > > has the number, I don't remember the number. I wrote it on the
> > > phone case.Â* All I do with the Flip Phone it to charge it the
> > > first of each month.
> > >
> > >
> > No, a cell phone would have gotten you help days sooner.Â* Once you
> > awoke you reach in your pocked, turn it on, get help.
>
> I get the impression he wasn't wearing pants.
>
> > Your neighbor can be another 24 hours to check on you.
> >
> > The fall was not avoidable but laying there four days certainly
> > was. Numerous ways.
>
> I agree. Still glad he's okay.
>
> Jill

I agree. What would RFC be with 90% less racism and homophobia? You
wouldn't feel at home here anymore.

--
The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-29 1:50 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 29/04/2021 20:16, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> > > > That button is worthless if you fall and are out cold.Â* I had a
> > > > phone not six feet away but was unable to use it.
> > >
> > > "Cuts and bruises" wouldn't stop me from reaching a phone. A
> > > broken hip, yes possibly if I'm also old and frail.
> > >
> > > > The best one can do when home alone is to have a neighbor check
> > > > on you.
> > >
> > > You're conscious, unable to move much, the neighbour just checked
> > > on you and they won't be back for 23 hours. There you lay,
> > > cursing your own stubbornness.
> > >
> > When I shower (assuming I'm here on my own), I put my phone on the
> > floor, on a towel. If I should fall, I have a good chance of being
> > able to grab the towel and pull the phone toward me.
> >
> I think I'll have to do that. I fell this morning when I got out of
> the shower and the bathmat slipped. Now my left leg is aching.

Ouch. My floor to ceiling bar arrived. We have 2 optimal placements.
Before we bolt it in, we will both sit in the tub and try getting up
and see which seems best. It's the one folks joked about naked pole
dancing (grin). The ceiling is plywood, stained to match the wood
plank walls. Looks spiffier than it sounds, if a bit dark becuse it's
a darker wood stain.

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-29 4:06 p.m., wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:54:04 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> > >
> > > I fell this morning when I got out of the
> > > shower and the bathmat slipped. Now my left leg is aching.
> > >
> > It sounds like you need a new, non-skid bath mat!
> >
> Definitely!

Had that happen once. Broke a rib. Was not fun.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:53:21 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> I just arrived home. I'm still sore all over. I was to take care of
> the cats while my wife was visiting her family for Easter. She hadn't
> left for 15 minutes when I fell, how I don't know. I was on the floor
> and couldn't get up, couldn't reach a phone. So I lay there four days
> and nights until she came home and found me, called an ambulense and
> off to a rehab I went.

People your age die within 4 days without at least water. Less if
they're drinking Crystal Palace.

-sw

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:17:40 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> Thank you, Jill. I wouldn't wish this experience on my worst enemy.
> Will probably be about a month before I'm all healed.

Hate to sound pessimistic, but you're probably being optimistic.
You'll be feeling it for a year. I busted a finger 2 years ago and
I still feel it. And the busted wrist last week I'll be feeling for
the rest of my life. I may never play my right nostril ever again!

-sw

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:10:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> They doubt it will be needed, just rest. I was very lucky no broken
> bones, just cuts and bruises.

Like I said, it's best to fall while you're drunk rather than sober.

-sw

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:43:53 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:54:58 -0600, US Janet >
> wrote:
>
>>Did you fall down the cellar steps? Where did you fall from?
>
> Fell in the hallway by the bedrooms, plan was to put on fresh clothes
> after a shower... no shower, no fresh clothes.

Then why did you mention having to take care of the katz if it
wasn't the cellar stairs?

But I believe the no clothes thing.

-sw

On 2021-04-29 9:16 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:17:40 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Jill. I wouldn't wish this experience on my worst enemy.
>> Will probably be about a month before I'm all healed.
>
> Hate to sound pessimistic, but you're probably being optimistic.
> You'll be feeling it for a year. I busted a finger 2 years ago and
> I still feel it. And the busted wrist last week I'll be feeling for
> the rest of my life. I may never play my right nostril ever again!
>

The older we get the longer it takes bones to heal. I was 51 when I
broke my collar bone. I was off work for 2 months but it was tender for
months after. Eight years later I broke a rib or two it it was tender
for close to a year. I had just recovered from that when I had heart
surgery and they ripped my sternum open. That took about 4 months to
heal but was sore for years. Here I am 10 years later and it is
sometimes very tender.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:10:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:33:28 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > wrote:
>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 jmcquown wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Just a quick note in case anyone else has noticed he hasn't been posting
>>> >and starts spreading misinformation. He's not dead. He's in the
>>> >hospital. He had a bad fall. Nothing broken, just badly bruised and
>>> >banged up.
>>> >
>>> >Despite our many disagreements over the years, I *do* notice when
>>> >Sheldon hasn't posted for a while. After all, he's 78 years old. I
>>> >spoke with his wife, Kathleen, who is very gracious. She told me not to
>>> >worry, he'll be back in a week or so. (She said she thought about
>>> >getting him a tablet but then she'd have to teach him to use it and he's
>>> >not good with technology.) She thanked me for calling and will tell him
>>> >I was asking about him when she sees him tomorrow.
>>> >
>>> >Jill
>>>
>>> Thank you , Jill.
>>>
>>> I just arrived home. I'm still sore all over. I was to take care of
>>> the cats while my wife was visiting her family for Easter. She hadn't
>>> left for 15 minutes when I fell, how I don't know. I was on the floor
>>> and couldn't get up, couldn't reach a phone. So I lay there four days
>>> and nights until she came home and found me, called an ambulense and
>>> off to a rehab I went. This won't happen again, next time she leaves
>>> some neighbor will check on me. This was a horrendous experience,
>>> like a nightmare.
>>
>>Glad you are back, wishing you a speedy recovery...
>>Will you be receiving any additional physical therapy...???
>
> They doubt it will be needed, just rest. I was very lucky no broken
> bones, just cuts and bruises.

How do you get so many cuts and bruises falling in a hallway,
carpeted or not, that it takes 3 weeks inpatient to recover, when
you're so active otherwise? Did the ceiling collapse, too? And
then the hallway collapsed into the basement? And then a meteor hit
right on top of all that?

You're so fit that you could have at least crawled to a phone in the
bedroom or living room in 4 days. Aron Ralston cut his ****ing arm
off after only 4.5 days. And you say food or drink wasn't even on
your mind any of that time?

> I'm calling bullshit. The truth shall set your free, Sheldon!
> I've no idea how long I was lying in a pool of
> blood. I had some bad cuts on my elbows and ankles and a bad cut on
> my left ear... the doctor at the rehab figured I was out cold for a
> half hour.

From a hallway....

-sw

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 6:45:10 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 4/29/2021 11:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> >> We were considering getting one of those Life Alert thingies but a
> >> neighbor dissuaded us, could be an hour or longer before they arrive
> >> and if you don't answer the phone they will break your door down.
>
> Sheldon, you'd rather lie there for four days than have them break your
> door if you do't answer the phone or their knock at the door? That's odd.
>
> >> When home alone it's far better to not do anything risky where you can
> >> fall, and have a neighbor check on you...
>
> Thing is, you didn't do that. You know to do it *now*.
>
> > I see no problem in putting
> >> off climbing ladders and showering for a day or two. It's also no
> >> biggie to phone a neighbor to let them know you are okay. I doubt
> >> anyone falls off a PC chair or off a sofa while watching TV.
> >
> Putting off climbing ladders is a given. As for the shower, that's what
> sinks, soap and wash cloths are for. Since you admittedly don't know
> how or why you fell, I'd say it's entirely possible for someone to fall
> off a PC chair or a sofa or even fall out of bed watching TV and not
> have any memory of it.
>
> > My mother, who is 86, had a TIA last November and collapsed like
> > a bunch of cooked spaghetti while just standing at her front door.
> > She crawled back into her house and laid there for a couple of days,
> > too addled to call anybody.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I'm sorry to hear that, Cindy. Is she okay now?

Pretty much. She has a little aphasia, but not too bad. She still takes
care of herself.

I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:03:39 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 6:45:10 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On 4/29/2021 11:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > >> We were considering getting one of those Life Alert thingies but a
> > >> neighbor dissuaded us, could be an hour or longer before they arrive
> > >> and if you don't answer the phone they will break your door down.
> >
> > Sheldon, you'd rather lie there for four days than have them break your
> > door if you do't answer the phone or their knock at the door? That's odd.
> >
> > >> When home alone it's far better to not do anything risky where you can
> > >> fall, and have a neighbor check on you...
> >
> > Thing is, you didn't do that. You know to do it *now*.
> >
> > > I see no problem in putting
> > >> off climbing ladders and showering for a day or two. It's also no
> > >> biggie to phone a neighbor to let them know you are okay. I doubt
> > >> anyone falls off a PC chair or off a sofa while watching TV.
> > >
> > Putting off climbing ladders is a given. As for the shower, that's what
> > sinks, soap and wash cloths are for. Since you admittedly don't know
> > how or why you fell, I'd say it's entirely possible for someone to fall
> > off a PC chair or a sofa or even fall out of bed watching TV and not
> > have any memory of it.
> >
> > > My mother, who is 86, had a TIA last November and collapsed like
> > > a bunch of cooked spaghetti while just standing at her front door.
> > > She crawled back into her house and laid there for a couple of days,
> > > too addled to call anybody.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > I'm sorry to hear that, Cindy. Is she okay now?
> Pretty much. She has a little aphasia, but not too bad. She still takes
> care of herself.
>
> I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
> the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
> used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>
My ideal vehicle would be an FJ Cruiser that was hybrid. They had a beautiful
FJ at the dealer where my son bought his new car, but one, we've already got
one more vehicle than we need, and two, I won't buy a vehicle that's not a
hybrid, period. Until our retirement, our little Chevys should be fine. Then we'll
sell those and buy a late model Infiniti, Lexus or Acura hybrid sedan for touring
the USA and Canada. If I were to buy a brand new car tomorrow, it'd likely be a
Honda Clarity plug-in hybrid.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
--Bryan

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 6:04:27 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:03:39 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 6:45:10 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > > On 4/29/2021 11:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> We were considering getting one of those Life Alert thingies but a
> > > >> neighbor dissuaded us, could be an hour or longer before they arrive
> > > >> and if you don't answer the phone they will break your door down.
> > >
> > > Sheldon, you'd rather lie there for four days than have them break your
> > > door if you do't answer the phone or their knock at the door? That's odd.
> > >
> > > >> When home alone it's far better to not do anything risky where you can
> > > >> fall, and have a neighbor check on you...
> > >
> > > Thing is, you didn't do that. You know to do it *now*.
> > >
> > > > I see no problem in putting
> > > >> off climbing ladders and showering for a day or two. It's also no
> > > >> biggie to phone a neighbor to let them know you are okay. I doubt
> > > >> anyone falls off a PC chair or off a sofa while watching TV.
> > > >
> > > Putting off climbing ladders is a given. As for the shower, that's what
> > > sinks, soap and wash cloths are for. Since you admittedly don't know
> > > how or why you fell, I'd say it's entirely possible for someone to fall
> > > off a PC chair or a sofa or even fall out of bed watching TV and not
> > > have any memory of it.
> > >
> > > > My mother, who is 86, had a TIA last November and collapsed like
> > > > a bunch of cooked spaghetti while just standing at her front door.
> > > > She crawled back into her house and laid there for a couple of days,
> > > > too addled to call anybody.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > I'm sorry to hear that, Cindy. Is she okay now?
> > Pretty much. She has a little aphasia, but not too bad. She still takes
> > care of herself.
> >
> > I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
> > the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
> > used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
> >
> My ideal vehicle would be an FJ Cruiser that was hybrid. They had a beautiful
> FJ at the dealer where my son bought his new car, but one, we've already got
> one more vehicle than we need, and two, I won't buy a vehicle that's not a
> hybrid, period. Until our retirement, our little Chevys should be fine. Then we'll
> sell those and buy a late model Infiniti, Lexus or Acura hybrid sedan for touring
> the USA and Canada. If I were to buy a brand new car tomorrow, it'd likely be a
> Honda Clarity plug-in hybrid.

YMMV, but I hate that FJ. The visibility out the windows sucks. It's hard
to get into, especially if I'm stiff from kneeling in the garden or similar.
I hated it when my husband bought it, and I hate it even more now that I'm
driving him around in it half the time. I'd press him to ride in my car, but he
finds his a much smoother ride and hence more comfortable.

I've been threatening to trade my car in on a Buick.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
snip

>
>I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
sink down in to sit.
Janet US

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:43:03 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> snip
> >
> >I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
> >the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
> >used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
> IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
> darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
> sink down in to sit.
> Janet US

True. A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
for insurance purposes. Once after a few drinks I got in and when
I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.

Cindy Hamilton

On 30/04/2021 16:00, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:43:03 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>> I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>>> the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>>> used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
>> darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
>> sink down in to sit.
>> Janet US
>
> True. A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
> for insurance purposes. Once after a few drinks I got in and when
> I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
> could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

===

LOL I had an MX5 just a few years ago and loved it (Miata = Mx5)

Can't say I ever tried to get into the back seat))

On 2021-04-30 11:00 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:43:03 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>>>
>>> I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>>> the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>>> used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
>> darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
>> sink down in to sit.
>> Janet US
>
> True. A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
> for insurance purposes. Once after a few drinks I got in and when
> I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
> could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
>


My friend drives a BWM Z4. It is a nice comfortable car to sit in, but I
have a hell of a time getting in and out. I am 6 ft. tall and long
waisted with short legs. I can the lower half of me in and seated, but
then I have to get my head in, and it is a hell of as struggle. I found
the best way is to sit on the rocker panel, get my head in and then
slide up to the seat and sing my legs in. To get out I have to swivel,
get my legs out, slide down and then stand up.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:00:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:43:03 AM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>> >
>> >I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>> >the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>> >used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>> IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
>> darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
>> sink down in to sit.
>> Janet US
>
>True. A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
>for insurance purposes. Once after a few drinks I got in and when
>I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
>could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I can see that
Janet US

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:42:09 -0600, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>snip
>>
>>I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>>the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>>used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
>darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
>sink down in to sit.
>Janet US

I find our FJ Cruiser easier to enter and exit than most vehicles, at
least the front seats, the rear seating is difficult, built for small
children.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:42:09 -0600, US Janet wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> snip
>
>>
>>I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>>the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>>used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
> IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
> darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
> sink down in to sit.
> Janet US

Which is why I like my Mazda CX5 and before that a Toyota Highlander. As
I'm over 6', I find it too awkward getting in and out of a standard car -
they are just too damned low!

Graham wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 08:42:09 -0600, US Janet wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>>
>>>
>>> I was surprised she was able to climb unaided into my husband's FJ Cruiser
>>> the last time I visited her. Stepped right up on the running board,
>>> used the "oh shit" handle, and hauled herself in.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> IMO, that kind of car arrangement is easier to get into than those
>> darn cars where you have to lift your feet over the threshold and then
>> sink down in to sit.
>> Janet US
>
> Which is why I like my Mazda CX5 and before that a Toyota Highlander. As
> I'm over 6', I find it too awkward getting in and out of a standard car -
> they are just too damned low!
>

You need a convertible. Just hop in.

On 4/30/2021 1:09 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> I find our FJ Cruiser easier to enter and exit than most vehicles, at
> least the front seats, the rear seating is difficult, built for small
> children.
>
They still let you drive?!

Donald Shenkenberger wrote:
> On 4/30/2021 1:09 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> I find our FJ Cruiser easier to enter and exit than most
>> vehicles, at
>> least the front seats, the rear seating is difficult, built for
>> small
>> children.
>>
> They still let you drive?!

Popeye has a Filipino chauffeur.

On 4/30/2021 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 30/04/2021 16:00, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> True. A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
>> for insurance purposes. Once after a few drinks I got in and when
>> I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
>> could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> ===
>
> LOL I had an MX5 just a few years ago and loved it (Miata = Mx5)
>
> Can't say I ever tried to get into the back seat))

When my daughter was 16 and got her driver's license, she fell in love
with the Mazda Miata. Such a cute car.

So I bought her one for Christmas the next year.
A 2" Mazda Miata.... "Matchbox" series toy car. ;-D
I put it in her Christmas stocking. LOL (true story too)

Dave Smith wrote:
> I attend funerals only when there
> is no way for me to get out of it.

There's always a way to get out of going to a funeral.
Others might think you are being disrespectful but that's their problem.
**** em.

As I've explained to many, whenever I've attended a funeral, that's my
lasting memory of the person and it's not good.

By skipping a funeral, my lasting memory of them is talking to them when
they were alive.

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 8:15:46 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > I attend funerals only when there
> > is no way for me to get out of it.
>
> There's always a way to get out of going to a funeral.
> Others might think you are being disrespectful but that's their problem.
> **** em.
>
> As I've explained to many, whenever I've attended a funeral, that's my
> lasting memory of the person and it's not good.
>
> By skipping a funeral, my lasting memory of them is talking to them when
> they were alive


I agree, funerals are morbid gruesome affairs... have a nice "celebration of life" event instead...

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Greg

On Sun, 2 May 2021 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 8:15:46 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> > I attend funerals only when there
>> > is no way for me to get out of it.
>>
>> There's always a way to get out of going to a funeral.
>> Others might think you are being disrespectful but that's their problem.
>> **** em.
>>
>> As I've explained to many, whenever I've attended a funeral, that's my
>> lasting memory of the person and it's not good.
>>
>> By skipping a funeral, my lasting memory of them is talking to them when
>> they were alive
>
>
>I agree, funerals are morbid gruesome affairs... have a nice "celebration of life" event instead...

When we put David's ashes in the sea, the sun was setting and everyone
there voiced a reminiscence they felt was their connection with him
and then it got round to Sister K. She's a Sister of Charity but an
excellent doctor who was chief of medicine for awhile at the kids
hospital, which is where David worked for her as her administrator.
She announced she knew we were a family of atheists but that she
reserved the right as a nun to say a prayer for him. She said a short
prayer then remarked to us, I can just imagine how ****ed off he is
about that!!

We all knew he would have been highly amused.

On 02/05/2021 14:11, Gary wrote:
> On 4/30/2021 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 30/04/2021 16:00, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> True.Â* A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
>>> for insurance purposes.Â* Once after a few drinks I got in and when
>>> I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
>>> could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> ===
>>
>> LOL I had an MX5 just a few years ago and loved itÂ* (Miata = Mx5)
>>
>> Can't say I ever tried to get into the back seat))
>
> When my daughter was 16 and got her driver's license, she fell in love
> with the Mazda Miata. Such a cute car.
>
> So I bought her one for Christmas the next year.
> A 2" Mazda Miata.... "Matchbox" series toy car.Â*Â* ;-D
> I put it in her Christmas stocking.Â* LOLÂ*Â* (true story too)
====

AWww))

Gary wrote:

> On 4/30/2021 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > On 30/04/2021 16:00, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > True. A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
> > > for insurance purposes. Once after a few drinks I got in and when
> > > I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before
> > > I could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > ===
> >
> > LOL I had an MX5 just a few years ago and loved it (Miata = Mx5)
> >
> > Can't say I ever tried to get into the back seat))
>
> When my daughter was 16 and got her driver's license, she fell in
> love with the Mazda Miata. Such a cute car.
>
> So I bought her one for Christmas the next year.

I fell off my chair.

> A 2" Mazda Miata.... "Matchbox" series toy car. ;-D
> I put it in her Christmas stocking. LOL (true story too)

I'm back on my chair.

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Gary wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> > I attend funerals only when there
> > is no way for me to get out of it.
>
> There's always a way to get out of going to a funeral.
> Others might think you are being disrespectful but that's their
> problem. **** em.
>
> As I've explained to many, whenever I've attended a funeral, that's
> my lasting memory of the person and it's not good.
>
> By skipping a funeral, my lasting memory of them is talking to them
> when they were alive.

I agree.

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On 5/2/2021 11:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 02/05/2021 14:11, Gary wrote:
>> On 4/30/2021 11:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> On 30/04/2021 16:00, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> True.Â* A friend had a Mazda Miata, which had just enough back seat
>>>> for insurance purposes.Â* Once after a few drinks I got in and when
>>>> I tried to get out I started laughing and it was some time before I
>>>> could collect myself enough to lever myself out of it.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> LOL I had an MX5 just a few years ago and loved itÂ* (Miata = Mx5)
>>>
>>> Can't say I ever tried to get into the back seat))
>>
>> When my daughter was 16 and got her driver's license, she fell in love
>> with the Mazda Miata. Such a cute car.
>>
>> So I bought her one for Christmas the next year.
>> A 2" Mazda Miata.... "Matchbox" series toy car.Â*Â* ;-D
>> I put it in her Christmas stocking.Â* LOLÂ*Â* (true story too)
> ====
>
> AWww))
>


yeah. Until the kid starts hanging with a biker dude because dad just
doesn't get her.

On 2021 May 2, , Gary wrote
(in article >):

> By skipping a funeral, my lasting memory of them is talking to them when
> they were alive.

My Mom had a belief that I agree with: "Pay your respects to the
living".

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> When my daughter was 16 and got her driver's license, she fell in
>> love with the Mazda Miata. Such a cute car.
>>
>> So I bought her one for Christmas the next year.
>
> I fell off my chair.
>
>> A 2" Mazda Miata.... "Matchbox" series toy car. ;-D
>> I put it in her Christmas stocking. LOL (true story too)
>
> I'm back on my chair.

lol :-D

Then the next year came. I bought a nice used Volvo - for myself but
also for her to drive to HS during her senior year. 4 days later, she
drove it for the first time and totalled it within a mile. arrghh.

That next Christmas, I put a lump of coal in her stocking. lol
That's also true...I *do* have a lump of coal here.

On 2021-05-04 12:10 a.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2021 May 2, , Gary wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> By skipping a funeral, my lasting memory of them is talking to them when
>> they were alive.
>
> My Mom had a belief that I agree with: "Pay your respects to the
> living".
>
>


I would read that as meaning to attend something in honour of the
deceased to support the family left behind. I attend visitations and
celebrations of life, but I avoid religious funerals.

On 2021 May 4, , Dave Smith wrote
(in article >):

> I would read that as meaning to attend something in honour of the
> deceased to support the family left behind. I attend visitations and
> celebrations of life, but I avoid religious funerals.

And I always took it to mean to respect people when they are alive and can
appreciate it. We were not a religious family. I have been to three funerals
and one wake.