On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
> That's what I had then (and still use).
> I should upgrade that too.

When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.

I still use it at work.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>
>> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
>> That's what I had then (and still use).
>> I should upgrade that too.
>
>When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
>
>I still use it at work.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:07:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2021 5:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:00:16 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2021 1:55 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> That's not how it works when you use an up to date browser. It's
>>>>> always encrypted when you establish a connections with banks and
>>>>> such. It's encrypted in your browser and can only be decoded when
>>>>> it reaches your banks web servers. Same with everything they send
>>>>> to you over the network. They pay fees for their SSL certificates
>>>>> that make all this possible, but are useless if your browser is out
>>>>> of date.
>>>>
>>>> Just to note... I wasn't using the old Netscape browser for this. I was
>>>> using Thunderbird on the neighborhood wifi connection.
>>>>
>>>> It was (and still is) Thunderbird vs 45.0
>>>> I should update it, I suppose. lol
>>>>
>>>> That said, it wasn't as out of date 3 years ago as it is now.
>>>> I've always heard not to use secure info (like a bank password) on a
>>>> shared network.
>>>
>>> Thunderbird is an email client. You don't browse the web with it.
>>>
>> Firefox, both Mozilla products. (How funny he still has Netscape
>> somewhere.)
>
> His Netscape 4.73 (circa 2000) was a combo product that included
> mailer and browser, IIRC. Mozilla Seamonkey would be its
> predecessor.
>
> -sw
>

Ass backwards. Netscape was the predecessor of seamonkey. Seamonkey
still exists.

On 4/24/2021 1:18 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:07:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/23/2021 5:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:00:16 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/23/2021 1:55 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> That's not how it works when you use an up to date browser.Â* It's
>>>>>> always encrypted when you establish a connections with banks and
>>>>>> such.Â* It's encrypted in your browser and can only be decoded when
>>>>>> it reaches your banks web servers.Â* Same with everything they send
>>>>>> to you over the network.Â* They pay fees for their SSL certificates
>>>>>> that make all this possible, but are useless if your browser is out
>>>>>> of date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to note... I wasn't using the old Netscape browser for this. I
>>>>> was
>>>>> using Thunderbird on the neighborhood wifi connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was (and still is) Thunderbird vs 45.0
>>>>> I should update it, I suppose.Â* lol
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, it wasn't as out of date 3 years ago as it is now.
>>>>> I've always heard not to use secure info (like a bank password) on a
>>>>> shared network.
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird is an email client. You don't browse the web with it.
>>>>
>>> Firefox, both Mozilla products.Â* (How funny he still has Netscape
>>> somewhere.)
>>
>> His Netscape 4.73 (circa 2000) was a combo product that included
>> mailer and browser, IIRC.Â* Mozilla Seamonkey would be its
>> predecessor.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Ass backwards. Netscape was the predecessor of seamonkey. Seamonkey
> still exists.
>
>
The dwarf is also a mental midget, double ****ed.

On 4/24/2021 11:24 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
>>> That's what I had then (and still use).
>>> I should upgrade that too.
>>
>> When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
>>
>> I still use it at work.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.
>
Switched to Tor Browser.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:24:25 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >
> >> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
> >> That's what I had then (and still use).
> >> I should upgrade that too.
> >
> >When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
> >
> >I still use it at work.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
> Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.

It kept locking up my Linux window manager.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 15:07:01 -0400, Don Shenkenberger
> wrote:

>On 4/24/2021 1:18 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:07:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2021 5:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:00:16 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2021 1:55 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> That's not how it works when you use an up to date browser.* It's
>>>>>>> always encrypted when you establish a connections with banks and
>>>>>>> such.* It's encrypted in your browser and can only be decoded when
>>>>>>> it reaches your banks web servers.* Same with everything they send
>>>>>>> to you over the network.* They pay fees for their SSL certificates
>>>>>>> that make all this possible, but are useless if your browser is out
>>>>>>> of date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to note... I wasn't using the old Netscape browser for this. I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> using Thunderbird on the neighborhood wifi connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was (and still is) Thunderbird vs 45.0
>>>>>> I should update it, I suppose.* lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, it wasn't as out of date 3 years ago as it is now.
>>>>>> I've always heard not to use secure info (like a bank password) on a
>>>>>> shared network.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird is an email client. You don't browse the web with it.
>>>>>
>>>> Firefox, both Mozilla products.* (How funny he still has Netscape
>>>> somewhere.)
>>>
>>> His Netscape 4.73 (circa 2000) was a combo product that included
>>> mailer and browser, IIRC.* Mozilla Seamonkey would be its
>>> predecessor.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>>
>> Ass backwards. Netscape was the predecessor of seamonkey. Seamonkey
>> still exists.
>>
>>
>The dwarf is also a mental midget, double ****ed.

Seems so. Seamonkey came along MUCH later.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:24:25 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
>> >> That's what I had then (and still use).
>> >> I should upgrade that too.
>> >
>> >When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
>> >
>> >I still use it at work.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>> Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.
>
>It kept locking up my Linux window manager.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Firefox is a lost cause at this stage. It's almost as if they're
trying to ruin the browser deliberately in recent years.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:24:25 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
>> >> That's what I had then (and still use).
>> >> I should upgrade that too.
>> >
>> >When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
>> >
>> >I still use it at work.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>> Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.
>
>It kept locking up my Linux window manager.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Oh ok, can't say I was thrilled with their latest update, wondered if
it had been same for you.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-10, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:24:25 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
> >> >> That's what I had then (and still use).
> >> >> I should upgrade that too.
> >> >
> >> >When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
> >> >
> >> >I still use it at work.
> >> >
> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >> Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.
> >
> >It kept locking up my Linux window manager.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
> Oh ok, can't say I was thrilled with their latest update, wondered if
> it had been same for you.

I loved Firefox when it came out and ditched Internet Explorer pretty much off the bat. Unfortunately, it soon became fat and bloated and I ditched that too. That was about 10 years ago. These days Chrome is getting big and stupid too. Uh oh...

dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-10, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:24:25 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
>>>>>> That's what I had then (and still use).
>>>>>> I should upgrade that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still use it at work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>> Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.
>>>
>>> It kept locking up my Linux window manager.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> Oh ok, can't say I was thrilled with their latest update, wondered if
>> it had been same for you.
>
> I loved Firefox when it came out and ditched Internet Explorer pretty much off the bat. Unfortunately, it soon became fat and bloated and I ditched that too. That was about 10 years ago. These days Chrome is getting big and stupid too. Uh oh...
>

What do other dinks on the rock use?

On 4/24/2021 1:18 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:07:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/23/2021 5:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:00:16 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/23/2021 1:55 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> That's not how it works when you use an up to date browser. It's
>>>>>> always encrypted when you establish a connections with banks and
>>>>>> such. It's encrypted in your browser and can only be decoded when
>>>>>> it reaches your banks web servers. Same with everything they send
>>>>>> to you over the network. They pay fees for their SSL certificates
>>>>>> that make all this possible, but are useless if your browser is out
>>>>>> of date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to note... I wasn't using the old Netscape browser for this. I
>>>>> was
>>>>> using Thunderbird on the neighborhood wifi connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was (and still is) Thunderbird vs 45.0
>>>>> I should update it, I suppose. lol
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, it wasn't as out of date 3 years ago as it is now.
>>>>> I've always heard not to use secure info (like a bank password) on a
>>>>> shared network.
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird is an email client. You don't browse the web with it.
>>>>
>>> Firefox, both Mozilla products. (How funny he still has Netscape
>>> somewhere.)
>>
>> His Netscape 4.73 (circa 2000) was a combo product that included
>> mailer and browser, IIRC. Mozilla Seamonkey would be its
>> predecessor.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Ass backwards. Netscape was the predecessor of seamonkey. Seamonkey
> still exists.

Here's mine:
Netscape Communicator 4.73
Copyright 1994-2000 Netscape Communications Corporation

I believe it was the last pure Netscape version. The next version was
co-branded with AOL or something like that. (Netscape 6.0) Something
like that. I tried it and didn't like it.

Anyway, 4.73 was the perfect all in one program for internet at the time.
- Messenger (for email and ng's)
- Navigator (browser)
- Composer (a lame html editor)

First, email stopped working so I switched to Eudora for that.
Eventually, the browser wouldn't get all web pages so I switched to
Firefox for that.

Even both of those got outdated for internet use eventually. Windows98
couldn't handle new updates as time moved on.

That's when I got a laptop with Win7 and switched to Thunderbird and Firefox

At the end (last Nov.23 when dialup access ended). Netscape only handled
newsgroups and half the web pages (the older http ones)

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:29:57 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:24:25 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> > >On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:38:31 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > >> Oops There you go winning again. It was Firefox v 46.0
> > >> That's what I had then (and still use).
> > >> I should upgrade that too.
> > >
> > >When I stopped using Firefox at home a few months ago, it was 82.0.2.
> > >
> > >I still use it at work.
> > >
> > >Cindy Hamilton
> > Why did you stop using it at home? Just wondered.
> It kept locking up my Linux window manager.

Is FIrefox even run by a company or a non-profit? I wonder.