On 4/25/2021 12:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.

Thanks for the update. I've been wondering lately about him. Sounds like
a serious fall.

On 4/25/2021 10:14 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 25, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>
> Thanks, Jill. I miss the older goat.

I suspect Sheldar is gonna freak when he gets home and sees his
overgrown giant backyard that hasn't been mowed in over a month.

On 2021-04-25 11:50 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes
>> it and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I
>> have extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered
>> by my extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it
>> yourself... well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>
> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
> (chiropracters)
> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
>

I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to one
and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have to go
back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for tennis
elbow and they fixed me up permanently.

Dave Smith wrote:
....
> I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to one
> and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have to go
> back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for tennis
> elbow and they fixed me up permanently.

they've done fine for me. note, i've also had good results from
physical therapy and massage. so far i've not had any surgery for
my various back issues and i don't need drugs. once in a while i
do go back for an adjustment when i can feel my lower back and hips
start to give me the feeling that they are not moving well any more.
at present that means i go to visit him about once a year.

when gardening season gets underway that usually helps all of my
back and hip issues more than anything else.


songbird

On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> now.
>
> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>

They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
diseases? No way.

On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>
>>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.Â* "I
>>>>> gotta get
>>>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance but his
>>>>> refusal to
>>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>>>> a terrible cripple.
>>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>>>> disability but there's
>>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>>
>>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>>
>>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
>>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I have
>>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
>>> extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself...
>>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>>
>> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
>> (chiropracters)
>> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
>
> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> now.
>
> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>
And another thing:
Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
shots over emergency first responders!

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:02:22 -0400, Gary wrote:

> I suspect Sheldar is gonna freak when he gets home and sees his
> overgrown giant backyard that hasn't been mowed in over a month.

Am I the only one expecting a few starved critters?

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> >>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>>
> >>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I
> >>>>> gotta get
> >>>>> home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his
> >>>>> refusal to
> >>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
> >>>>> a terrible cripple.
> >>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
> >>>>> disability but there's
> >>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
> >>>>
> >>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
> >>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> >>>
> >>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
> >>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
> >>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government. I have
> >>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
> >>> extended health care to a limit. If you have to pay for it yourself...
> >>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
> >>>
> >> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
> >> (chiropracters)
> >> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
> >
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> > is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> > if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> > now.
> >
> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> > in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> > and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> > instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
> >
> And another thing:
> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
> shots over emergency first responders!


That's what you get with socialist health care, Graham...!!!

;-P

--
Best
Greg

On 2021-04-26 10:49 a.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:


>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>
> And another thing:
> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
> shots over emergency first responders!

Despite claims that the border closed at the beginning of the pandemic
we have been seeing thousands and thousands of people arriving by air
from covid hot spots, and a lot of them have been infected. Now the
migrant farm workers are arriving and because there were so many
outbreaks among them last year they have been given priority. The plan
was to vaccinate them at the airport upon arrival. There are no plans
for priority vaccination for our border guards who are dealing with
these people.

On 2021-04-26 9:02 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 10:14 PM, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Apr 25, , jmcquown wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>>
>> Thanks, Jill. I miss the older goat.
>
> I suspect Sheldar is gonna freak when he gets home and sees his
> overgrown giant backyard that hasn't been mowed in over a month.
>
>
> It shouldn't be too bad. He lives in the same weather zone I do. I
mowed the lawn for the first time on Saturday. The grass has tuned green
ove rthe last couple of weeks, but it is still cool. Once it warms up
the grass will take start growing like crazy.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:11:20 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-04-26 10:49 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
>
>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>>
>> And another thing:
>> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
>> shots over emergency first responders!
>
>Despite claims that the border closed at the beginning of the pandemic
>we have been seeing thousands and thousands of people arriving by air
>from covid hot spots, and a lot of them have been infected. Now the
>migrant farm workers are arriving and because there were so many
>outbreaks among them last year they have been given priority. The plan
>was to vaccinate them at the airport upon arrival. There are no plans
>for priority vaccination for our border guards who are dealing with
>these people.

The migrant farm workers thing is hard to figure how to handle. So
many farmers have crops going to waste because they can't get pickers.
Our local newspaper had an article about a local asparagus grower.
Rather than throw away all his asparagus he offered free to local
citizens to come and pick what they wanted. Over 5,000 people showed
up. I would have gone myself but I already had plans to make use of a
free shredder program to get rid of 5 boxes of business documents.
Whichever freebie I would have chosen we would have been in line for
an hour or more in pounding down rain. We need the rain so bad. The
leaves on my lilac are wrinkled from lack of water.

We are either going to pay a lot more for our food or some things just
simply won't be available.

Janet US

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
>> now.
>>
>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>
>
>They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
>diseases? No way.

Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!

On 2021-04-26 12:41 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:11:20 -0400, Dave Smith

>> Despite claims that the border closed at the beginning of the
>> pandemic we have been seeing thousands and thousands of people
>> arriving by air from covid hot spots, and a lot of them have been
>> infected. Now the migrant farm workers are arriving and because
>> there were so many outbreaks among them last year they have been
>> given priority. The plan was to vaccinate them at the airport upon
>> arrival. There are no plans for priority vaccination for our border
>> guards who are dealing with these people.
>
> The migrant farm workers thing is hard to figure how to handle. So
> many farmers have crops going to waste because they can't get
> pickers.

It is a tough call because they are essential to the economy.... since
farmers pay so little that locals won't work for such low pay. I think
it is a good idea that they get the vaccine. What I object to is them
having priority over our own people, the ones who are paying for the
health care system that is providing it. If it is important for them to
be vaccinated they should get their first shot two weeks before coming
here.

My bigger issue is that we have this program to vaccinate them upon
arrival, but they won't extend that to the CBSA staff who are processing
the temporary foreign workers along with immigrants and refugees
arriving from hot spots.

Then there are the land borders crossings like Niagara Falls and Fort
Erie. People entering the country are required to have a negative Covid
test within 36 hours, then having to have another test on arrival and
then go into isolation for two weeks. They are deemed risky enough to
have to go through that, but the government has not given priority to
the border guards overseeing it.



> We are either going to pay a lot more for our food or some things
> just simply won't be available.

We have already given up a lot for cheap food. Tomatoes are now bred
to be able to be picked mechanically without bruising and rotting. Taste
is no longer important.

On 4/26/2021 12:47 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>
>>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>>
>>
>> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
>> diseases? No way.
>
> Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!
>


Only had a couple of experiences, but they were good. Hobbled into the
office but walked out upright. Some claim to cure all sorts of stuff
but I don't go to them.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 12:46:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>
> Jill

Great. Even more hairy guys with gynecomastia for him to brag about
endlessly.

On the bright side, there probably won't be any 32-pound cabbages
this year.

-sw

On 4/25/2021 7:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 4:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 25/04/2021 17:46, jmcquown wrote:
>>> He should be home on Wednesday.Â* He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Gosh he has been there a long time
>
> He's not a spring chicken.
>
> Jill
>
Right, more like an old rat.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:53:28 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/25/2021 1:17 PM, US Janet wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 12:46:24 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> So glad you checked. I was just about to ask you to call again and
>> find out how he was.
>> Thanks Jill
>> Janet US
>>
> Not a problem. Falls at any age can be dangerous.

But they're not as bad when you're drunk. Sober people try and
break their falls and usually just cause more damage. It's better to
fall when you're all floppy-like.

Of course we all know that "rehab facility" is an ALCOHOL rehab
facility, so his wife will be making him do the requisite 90 AA
meetings in 90 days. More boobs.

-sw

On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:30:56 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/25/2021 4:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Gosh he has been there a long time
>
> He's not a spring chicken.

I thought he was a spring Energizer rabbit with all that hair, how
he ****s 3 times day, and does more before dawn than all of us all
day combined.

-sw

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:06:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-04-26 12:41 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:11:20 -0400, Dave Smith
>
>>> Despite claims that the border closed at the beginning of the
>>> pandemic we have been seeing thousands and thousands of people
>>> arriving by air from covid hot spots, and a lot of them have been
>>> infected. Now the migrant farm workers are arriving and because
>>> there were so many outbreaks among them last year they have been
>>> given priority. The plan was to vaccinate them at the airport upon
>>> arrival. There are no plans for priority vaccination for our border
>>> guards who are dealing with these people.
>>
>> The migrant farm workers thing is hard to figure how to handle. So
>> many farmers have crops going to waste because they can't get
>> pickers.
>
>It is a tough call because they are essential to the economy.... since
>farmers pay so little that locals won't work for such low pay. I think
>it is a good idea that they get the vaccine. What I object to is them
>having priority over our own people, the ones who are paying for the
>health care system that is providing it. If it is important for them to
>be vaccinated they should get their first shot two weeks before coming
>here.
>
>My bigger issue is that we have this program to vaccinate them upon
>arrival, but they won't extend that to the CBSA staff who are processing
>the temporary foreign workers along with immigrants and refugees
>arriving from hot spots.
>
>Then there are the land borders crossings like Niagara Falls and Fort
>Erie. People entering the country are required to have a negative Covid
>test within 36 hours, then having to have another test on arrival and
>then go into isolation for two weeks. They are deemed risky enough to
>have to go through that, but the government has not given priority to
>the border guards overseeing it.
>
>
>
>> We are either going to pay a lot more for our food or some things
>> just simply won't be available.
>
> We have already given up a lot for cheap food. Tomatoes are now bred
>to be able to be picked mechanically without bruising and rotting. Taste
>is no longer important.
>
As I said, it's tough to figure out. I thought they were supposed to
be vaccinated at the Mexican/US border, I don't know how that is
going. I wish there wasn't so much resistance to the vaccine among
US people. We are going to live with this forever.
Janet US

On 26/04/2021 15:30, songbird wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> ...
>> I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to one
>> and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have to go
>> back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for tennis
>> elbow and they fixed me up permanently.
>
> they've done fine for me. note, i've also had good results from
> physical therapy and massage. so far i've not had any surgery for
> my various back issues and i don't need drugs. once in a while i
> do go back for an adjustment when i can feel my lower back and hips
> start to give me the feeling that they are not moving well any more.
> at present that means i go to visit him about once a year.
>
> when gardening season gets underway that usually helps all of my
> back and hip issues more than anything else.
>
>
> songbird
>

===

My daughter loves hers too. She has problems with the bones in the
back on her neck. It always works for her for a few weeks with no pain
and then she goes back for another massage when it starts up again!

On 2021-04-26 2:16 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:06:39 -0400, Dave Smith
just simply won't be available.
>>
>> We have already given up a lot for cheap food. Tomatoes are now bred
>> to be able to be picked mechanically without bruising and rotting. Taste
>> is no longer important.
>>
> As I said, it's tough to figure out. I thought they were supposed to
> be vaccinated at the Mexican/US border, I don't know how that is
> going. I wish there wasn't so much resistance to the vaccine among
> US people. We are going to live with this forever.
>

FWIW we have been experience a very scary increase in new infections.
While we had been under 20 a day it soured to an average of close to
200. The other day it dropped to 170, then up to 224, down to 180 then
169. Yesterday it was 33 and today only 24. Provincially we had risen to
over 4500. Today there were only about 3500. Graphs of infection rates
seem to show a downward trend.

There had been an effort to vaccinate essential workers and people over
80. A few weeks ago they started mass vaccinations first for over 75,
then 70 then 65 and around the same time started with the Astrazenica
for people under 40.

Between the mass vaccinations and the lockdown, things are starting to
look promising.

On 4/26/2021 11:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:30:56 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/2021 4:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Gosh he has been there a long time
>>
>> He's not a spring chicken.
>
> I thought he was a spring Energizer rabbit with all that hair, how
> he ****s 3 times day, and does more before dawn than all of us all
> day combined.
>
> -sw
>


That explains why he eat5 like a horse, a dozen eggs for an appetizer.

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>
>>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.Â* "I
>>>>> gotta get
>>>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance but his
>>>>> refusal to
>>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>>>> a terrible cripple.
>>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>>>> disability but there's
>>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>>
>>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>>
>>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
>>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I have
>>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
>>> extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself...
>>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>>
>> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
>> (chiropracters)
>> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
>
> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> now.

How does that differentiate them form any other medical body mechanic
you insipid ****?

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
>> facility.
>
> You two must really be missing your clandestine mutual masturbation
> sessions on facetime.
>
Shelly has a pearl necklace waiting for you, ****.

On 4/26/2021 12:47 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>
>>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>>
>>
>> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
>> diseases? No way.
>
> Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!
>
Not know the case I can't say if that was the only cause.

My experience a couple of times has been good. My brother has a problem
that doctors and hospitals could not help but one visit to a
chiropractor did.

Gary wrote:

> On 4/25/2021 12:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
> > facility.
>
> Thanks for the update. I've been wondering lately about him. Sounds
> like a serious fall.

It IS fall here.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that
> > it is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going
> > back, if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking
> > about it now.
> >
> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a
> > woman in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those
> > 'alignments' on her and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?)
> > artery so badly that she instantly had a major stroke and would
> > never walk again.
> >
>
> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure.
> Other diseases? No way.

That's like saying don't ask a dentist to fix your broken leg.

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Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT),
> > > > > "
> > > >
> > > > > > One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years
> > > > > > ago.Â* "I gotta get
> > > > > > home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great
> > > > > > insurance but his refusal to
> > > > > > remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has
> > > > > > left him a terrible cripple.
> > > > > > That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his
> > > > > > immediate disability but there's
> > > > > > nothing that can be done for him now.
> > > > >
> > > > > He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't
> > > > > my understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> > > >
> > > > We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but
> > > > physiotherapy is not always covered. From what I understand, if
> > > > a doctor prescribes it and refers you to the hospital it is
> > > > covered by the government.Â* I have extended health care and if
> > > > the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my extended health
> > > > care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself... well,
> > > > it's pretty damned expensive.
> > > >
> > > What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for
> > > quackery (chiropracters)
> > > but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
> >
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that
> > it is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going
> > back, if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking
> > about it now.
> >
> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a
> > woman in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those
> > 'alignments' on her and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?)
> > artery so badly that she instantly had a major stroke and would
> > never walk again.
> >
> And another thing:
> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for
> covid shots over emergency first responders!

lol, that must have ****ed you off to no end.

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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> That's like saying don't ask a dentist to fix your broken leg.
>
> --

I bet we can find one to break yours - both of them.

US Janet wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 12:46:24 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
> > facility.
> >
> > Jill
>
> So glad you checked. I was just about to ask you to call again and
> find out how he was.
> Thanks Jill
> Janet US


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On 26 Apr 2021 19:50:12 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>
>> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that
>> > it is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going
>> > back, if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking
>> > about it now.
>> >
>> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a
>> > woman in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those
>> > 'alignments' on her and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?)
>> > artery so badly that she instantly had a major stroke and would
>> > never walk again.
>> >
>>
>> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure.
>> Other diseases? No way.
>
>That's like saying don't ask a dentist to fix your broken leg.

Also similar to some random soy boy coward pronouncing/passing
judgement on who is and isnt a good person on RFC.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:06:58 -0600, teel > wrote:

>Dr. Bruce wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
>>> facility.
>>
>> You two must really be missing your clandestine mutual masturbation
>> sessions on facetime.
>>
>Shelly has a pearl necklace waiting for you, ****.

lol

On 2021-04-26 1:07 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/26/2021 12:47 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>
>>>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery.Â* Just
>>>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>>>> deteriorating.Â* I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>>>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>>>> if she was cured, she is a loss!!Â* At least she is thinking about it
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They have a place, but a very limited place.Â* Stiff neck?Â* Sure.Â* Other
>>> diseases?Â* No way.
>>
>> Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!
>>
> Not know the case I can't say if that was the only cause.
>
> My experience a couple of times has been good. My brother has a problem
> that doctors and hospitals could not help but one visit to a
> chiropractor did.
Another anecdote: A while back an emergency room nurse told me that
every week they had to deal with injuries caused by chiropracters.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:01:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 4/25/2021 12:46 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>
>Thanks for the update. I've been wondering lately about him. Sounds like
>a serious fall.

Stopping the daily 'glug glug glug' takes time.

Leo wrote:

> On 2021 Apr 25, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
> > facility.
>
> Thanks, Jill. I miss the older goat.
>
> leo


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On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 11:56:05 AM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-26 1:07 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/26/2021 12:47 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> >>>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> >>>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> >>>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> >>>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> >>>> now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> >>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> >>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> >>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
> >>> diseases? No way.
> >>
> >> Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!
> >>
> > Not know the case I can't say if that was the only cause.
> >
> > My experience a couple of times has been good. My brother has a problem
> > that doctors and hospitals could not help but one visit to a
> > chiropractor did.
> Another anecdote: A while back an emergency room nurse told me that
> every week they had to deal with injuries caused by chiropracters.

We went to a concert where the performer said he was partially paralyzed by a chiropractor which caused him to give up performing for years. He then gave the name of the guy that done it to him. I should have written the chiropractor's name down. It was a great concert. My guess is that a lot of musicians will go to chiropractors because they had a tendency towards repetitive body stresses.

On 2021-04-26 4:05 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 11:56:05 AM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-04-26 1:07 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/26/2021 12:47 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>>>>>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>>>>>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>>>>>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>>>>>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>>>>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>>>>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>>>>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
>>>>> diseases? No way.
>>>>
>>>> Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!
>>>>
>>> Not know the case I can't say if that was the only cause.
>>>
>>> My experience a couple of times has been good. My brother has a problem
>>> that doctors and hospitals could not help but one visit to a
>>> chiropractor did.
>> Another anecdote: A while back an emergency room nurse told me that
>> every week they had to deal with injuries caused by chiropracters.
>
> We went to a concert where the performer said he was partially paralyzed by a chiropractor which caused him to give up performing for years. He then gave the name of the guy that done it to him. I should have written the chiropractor's name down. It was a great concert. My guess is that a lot of musicians will go to chiropractors because they had a tendency towards repetitive body stresses.
>
The philosophy behind it is not at all valid - dreampt up by a 19th
Century snake-oil salesman.

Ophelia wrote:
> On 26/04/2021 15:30, songbird wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> ...
>>> I don't trust chiropractors.* I don't know anyone who has been
>>> to one
>>> and been fixed.* They get some temporary relief but always have
>>> to go
>>> back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for
>>> tennis
>>> elbow and they fixed me up permanently.
>>
>> ** they've done fine for me.* note, i've also had good results from
>> physical therapy and massage.* so far i've not had any surgery for
>> my various back issues and i don't need drugs.* once in a while i
>> do go back for an adjustment when i can feel my lower back and hips
>> start to give me the feeling that they are not moving well any more.
>> at present that means i go to visit him about once a year.
>>
>> ** when gardening season gets underway that usually helps all of my
>> back and hip issues more than anything else.
>>
>>
>> ** songbird
>>
>
> ===
>
> * My daughter loves hers too.* She has problems with the bones in
> the back on her neck.* It always works for her for a few weeks with
> no pain and then she goes back for another massage when it starts
> up again!

Does your daughter have enormous mammary glands?

If so, Popeye will perform her titty massages free of charge. He
will also adjust her spine so it can carry the weight of her
massive bosoms. And he will polish her long thick nipples with old
school shinola shoe polish.

She will be a new wimmens!!!!!!!!! She only has to promise that she
won't fart while Popeye is working on her, so don't feed her rich
foods beforehand.

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-26 4:05 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 11:56:05 AM UTC-10, Graham wrote:

> > > Another anecdote: A while back an emergency room nurse told me
> > > that every week they had to deal with injuries caused by
> > > chiropracters.
> >
> > We went to a concert where the performer said he was partially
> > paralyzed by a chiropractor which caused him to give up performing
> > for years. He then gave the name of the guy that done it to him. I
> > should have written the chiropractor's name down. It was a great
> > concert. My guess is that a lot of musicians will go to
> > chiropractors because they had a tendency towards repetitive body
> > stresses.
> >
> The philosophy behind it is not at all valid - dreampt up by a 19th
> Century snake-oil salesman.

Graham, do you believe in electricity? You can't see it, you know.

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dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 11:56:05 AM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-04-26 1:07 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/26/2021 12:47 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>>>>>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>>>>>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>>>>>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>>>>>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>>>>>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>>>>>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>>>>>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
>>>>> diseases? No way.
>>>>
>>>> Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!
>>>>
>>> Not know the case I can't say if that was the only cause.
>>>
>>> My experience a couple of times has been good. My brother has a problem
>>> that doctors and hospitals could not help but one visit to a
>>> chiropractor did.
>> Another anecdote: A while back an emergency room nurse told me that
>> every week they had to deal with injuries caused by chiropracters.
>
> We went to a concert where the performer said he was partially paralyzed by a chiropractor which caused him to give up performing for years. He then gave the name of the guy that done it to him. I should have written the chiropractor's name down. It was a great concert. My guess is that a lot of musicians will go to chiropractors because they had a tendency towards repetitive body stresses.
>

I bet they do, there on da rock.