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My Hickory Farms catalogue has just arrived, and I'm interested in some of
their cheese-spreads-in-a-crock, but of course I'd like to make it myself. This is what it says : "Crocks of Cheese No matter where you grew up, Hickory Farms cheese spreads were a tasty holiday tradition. Rediscover your favorites with this gift featuring 10.5 oz. each of our award-winning flavors: Creamy Swiss, Sharp Cheddar and Garden Vegetable, packed in reusable ceramic crocks." Here's the page so you can see the picture : http://www.hickoryfarms.com/shop/pro...heese%20spread Does anybody have any idea how to make these? Obviously, it's spreadable, but what makes it that way? It looks like they've put it in a cake decorating bag and *skwoooshed" it onto crackers. I realise this is kind of a bizzare question, but thanks for your help : ) Cheers ~ - Tess |
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>Does anybody have any idea how to make these? Obviously, it's spreadable,
>From: "Tess" I suspect they mostly use water to make them speadable *laughs* (I'm serious though) A food processor makes cheese spread like nobody's business. I combine strong cheese like bleu, or swiss or sharp cheddar with plain cream cheese (roughly 2:1) and add water, cream, buttermilk, wine, port, sherry-- whatever liquid feels right by the TB spoon full to reach the consistency desired. If you want bits of this or that (bacon, pineapple, shrimp, crab, nuts, herbs, etc.) add that at the end and pulse the food processor to blend. It's best if vegetables and fruits are precooked before adding so they don't break down and make the cheese funky after a day or so. And I recommend dried herbs for the same reason. Pack in a crock or whatever you like and keep in the frig. I have found that adding just a lil bit of bleu cheese to most spreads gives them an extra cheesy punch without overpowering the primary cheese. Also check for salt and other seasonings before crocking. I like Hickory Farms' stuff but I won't pay 10 bucks for a crock of processed cheese spread. *laughs* * cheers * Barb Anne |
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Ack I forgot to mention you can buy dehydrated vegetable flakes and those work
great with these spreads. *smiles* Barb Anne |
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Barbtail" > wrote in message
... > Ack I forgot to mention you can buy dehydrated vegetable flakes and those work great with these spreads. > > *smiles* > > Barb Anne Yay! Thanks, Barb : ) My husband thought maybe it was "cut" with cream cheese, but I didn't want to dilute the flavour of the cheese too much. Your bleu cheese idea was an inspiration! My Dad loves it, and I think he'd really enjoy it in spreadable form! ( I'm going to be making some homemade crackers to go with it. ) I suppose you can also put in dried veg soup mix, or onion soup mix? You solved my problem ( well, one of many : ), and I thank you! Here's a little tip : When making your own crackers, instead of using a knife to score them, you can "dot" where you want them to break. ( I keep a clean "kitchen comb" in my drawer. ) Cheers ~ - Tess |
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Barbtail" > wrote in message
... > Ack I forgot to mention you can buy dehydrated vegetable flakes and those work great with these spreads. > > *smiles* > > Barb Anne Yay! Thanks, Barb : ) My husband thought maybe it was "cut" with cream cheese, but I didn't want to dilute the flavour of the cheese too much. Your bleu cheese idea was an inspiration! My Dad loves it, and I think he'd really enjoy it in spreadable form! ( I'm going to be making some homemade crackers to go with it. ) I suppose you can also put in dried veg soup mix, or onion soup mix? You solved my problem ( well, one of many : ), and I thank you! Here's a little tip : When making your own crackers, instead of using a knife to score them, you can "dot" where you want them to break. ( I keep a clean "kitchen comb" in my drawer. ) Cheers ~ - Tess |
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Barbtail wrote:
> A food processor makes cheese spread like nobody's business. I combine strong > cheese like bleu, or swiss or sharp cheddar with plain cream cheese (roughly > 2:1) and add water, cream, buttermilk, wine, port, sherry-- whatever liquid > feels right by the TB spoon full to reach the consistency desired. Do you have any experience with using harder cheeses like parmesan the same way? I've been working in the wine and cheese shop. When a wheel of cheese gets down to about a pound, it gets hard to sell. It doesn't look attractive with all the nice big wheels, and it if we don't have a replacement right away, it isn't much good for samples. (Why give samples of a cheese you don't have?) The dips and spreads sell well. I've been racking my brains trying to think of a good way to use those leftovers. --Lia |
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To make the swirled port wine and cheese spread, reserve a little of the orange
cheese spread before adding port to the rest, then lightly swirl them together while crocking. OMG and more- be careful not to let the food processor run too long or it could get hot and melt the cheese. *laughs* Barb Anne |
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>Do you have any experience with using harder cheeses like parmesan the
>same way? The harder cheeses don't break down as nicely as cheddar, swiss, edam, etc, but you can add them. Pre- grate them with a microplane thing. I suppose you could try soaking them in liquid, but I have not tried that. I don't think people mind the texture- it's expected of hard cheeses or you could sell it as a spread for toasting- like for bruchetta(sp) or something (I'd omit the cream cheese in this case and bind the romano or parmy with a mild aged cheese or even just butter). I was going to also add that Worcestershire sauce is a common addition to cheese balls and spreads, Balsamic vinegar would be good-- even soy sauce would work (hmm an asian-fusion cheese spread- possibilities are endless *laughs*) Good luck and have fun! Barb Anne |
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Tess wrote:
> > My Hickory Farms catalogue has just arrived, and I'm interested in some of > their cheese-spreads-in-a-crock, but of course I'd like to make it myself. > This is what it says : > > "Crocks of Cheese > No matter where you grew up, Hickory Farms cheese spreads were a tasty > holiday tradition. Rediscover your favorites with this gift featuring 10.5 > oz. each of our award-winning flavors: Creamy Swiss, Sharp Cheddar and > Garden Vegetable, packed in reusable ceramic crocks." > > Here's the page so you can see the picture : > http://www.hickoryfarms.com/shop/pro...heese%20spread > > Does anybody have any idea how to make these? Obviously, it's spreadable, > but what makes it that way? It looks like they've put it in a cake > decorating bag and *skwoooshed" it onto crackers. > > I realise this is kind of a bizzare question, but thanks for your help : ) > > Cheers ~ > > - Tess I happen to get a taste of the garden vegetable at the mall yesterday. Not bad, but not great either. LB |
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Hi Tess
Yes, you can use any of the soup mixes to flavor these. I just taste and season as I am inspired- you know what you like. *laughs* I really should add that you need to have your cheeses at room temperature and start with grated cheddar, swiss, edam (your main aged cheese[s]) in your food processor (not the cream cheese or other soft cheese) Pulse till softened and pastey, then add the creamier cheese to the processor, scraping frequently You want the consistency to appear very soft at first (but not soupy) because when you re-chill this it will harden up considerably. (You can transfer the cheeses to a mixer before adding the bits for a fluffier spread). For cheese balls and rolls, use less liquid. To form, spoon the cheese mix onto a square of plastic wrap and form into a ball or a roll, then chill till hardened, Before serving, remove plastic and roll in any one of the following: chopped/sliced nuts, veggie flakes, minced dried tomato, minced parlsey, those canned dried onion ring things they use on top of green bean cassarole, minced green onion, etc. *cheers* Barb Anne (I know I'll think of something else to add but I think that's most of it *laughs*) |
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Hi Tess
Yes, you can use any of the soup mixes to flavor these. I just taste and season as I am inspired- you know what you like. *laughs* I really should add that you need to have your cheeses at room temperature and start with grated cheddar, swiss, edam (your main aged cheese[s]) in your food processor (not the cream cheese or other soft cheese) Pulse till softened and pastey, then add the creamier cheese to the processor, scraping frequently You want the consistency to appear very soft at first (but not soupy) because when you re-chill this it will harden up considerably. (You can transfer the cheeses to a mixer before adding the bits for a fluffier spread). For cheese balls and rolls, use less liquid. To form, spoon the cheese mix onto a square of plastic wrap and form into a ball or a roll, then chill till hardened, Before serving, remove plastic and roll in any one of the following: chopped/sliced nuts, veggie flakes, minced dried tomato, minced parlsey, those canned dried onion ring things they use on top of green bean cassarole, minced green onion, etc. *cheers* Barb Anne (I know I'll think of something else to add but I think that's most of it *laughs*) |
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Naomi Darvell wrote:
> At both the places I buy expensive cheese, they seem to deal with this by > having an areas devoted to pre-wrapped pieces that are on the small side, just > a few ounces. They are handy to grab if you need something for a lunch or > something. Would that work at your place? That's impossible to say. I keep thinking of what works at medium-service, medium-expensive stores. The rest of the staff does too. We're not talking bargain-basement; we're talking middle of the road. I like the idea of something prepackaged and ready to go. The boss has the idea that we're full service. Everyone gets individual attention before making a purchase. If you buy a quarter pound of cheese, you still taste 5 or more and get treated as though choosing that one cheese was the most important thing in the world. Every cheese is cut fresh from the wheel and weighed for the customer. Personally, I wouldn't mind having a few packets pre-weighed and ready to go, but I think my boss is afraid that would make it look like the whole song and dance surrounding the conversation, the information about cheese, the careful listening to what the customer likes and doesn't like and whom they're entertaining and what they're serving and what wine they're buying, like none of that matters. In any case, I just got back from work, and I had a great day. The place was packed with people, and they were all happy. They were running into old friends in the aisles, talking and hugging, making plans. The cheese just flew out of there. I was busy every second selling, weighing, entertaining, running into the back kitchen to package more items. The funniest part of the day involved the extra help. There were 2 men I'd never seen before helping out, but it was obvious that they were wine experts helping customers. There was also a teenager I'd never met hanging out and washing a few dishes. When I got busy and needed something washed, he was in front of the sink so I handed him the container and said "we've never met, but would you wash this?" And he said sure. He did a good a job; I was impressed. Later it turned out that he was the son of one of the extra wine guys, just a friend of the family who showed up and cheerfully did what he was told by some total stranger wearing an apron. This is so different from the boss's youngest daughter who is 14 and smack in the middle of her "difficult" years. I feel so awkward asking her to do anything though the boss has specifically told the parttimers that his family is there to help. A few times I've given her specific instructions and have been flatly refused. So today was different and great. We were all so busy that we worked together beautifully though we'd never even met. --Lia |
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Naomi Darvell wrote:
> At both the places I buy expensive cheese, they seem to deal with this by > having an areas devoted to pre-wrapped pieces that are on the small side, just > a few ounces. They are handy to grab if you need something for a lunch or > something. Would that work at your place? That's impossible to say. I keep thinking of what works at medium-service, medium-expensive stores. The rest of the staff does too. We're not talking bargain-basement; we're talking middle of the road. I like the idea of something prepackaged and ready to go. The boss has the idea that we're full service. Everyone gets individual attention before making a purchase. If you buy a quarter pound of cheese, you still taste 5 or more and get treated as though choosing that one cheese was the most important thing in the world. Every cheese is cut fresh from the wheel and weighed for the customer. Personally, I wouldn't mind having a few packets pre-weighed and ready to go, but I think my boss is afraid that would make it look like the whole song and dance surrounding the conversation, the information about cheese, the careful listening to what the customer likes and doesn't like and whom they're entertaining and what they're serving and what wine they're buying, like none of that matters. In any case, I just got back from work, and I had a great day. The place was packed with people, and they were all happy. They were running into old friends in the aisles, talking and hugging, making plans. The cheese just flew out of there. I was busy every second selling, weighing, entertaining, running into the back kitchen to package more items. The funniest part of the day involved the extra help. There were 2 men I'd never seen before helping out, but it was obvious that they were wine experts helping customers. There was also a teenager I'd never met hanging out and washing a few dishes. When I got busy and needed something washed, he was in front of the sink so I handed him the container and said "we've never met, but would you wash this?" And he said sure. He did a good a job; I was impressed. Later it turned out that he was the son of one of the extra wine guys, just a friend of the family who showed up and cheerfully did what he was told by some total stranger wearing an apron. This is so different from the boss's youngest daughter who is 14 and smack in the middle of her "difficult" years. I feel so awkward asking her to do anything though the boss has specifically told the parttimers that his family is there to help. A few times I've given her specific instructions and have been flatly refused. So today was different and great. We were all so busy that we worked together beautifully though we'd never even met. --Lia |
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Barbtail wrote:
>>Do you have any experience with using harder cheeses like parmesan the >>same way? > > > The harder cheeses don't break down as nicely as cheddar, swiss, edam, etc, but > you can add them. Pre- grate them with a microplane thing. I suppose you could > try soaking them in liquid, but I have not tried that. I don't think people > mind the texture- it's expected of hard cheeses or you could sell it as a > spread for toasting- like for bruchetta(sp) or something (I'd omit the cream > cheese in this case and bind the romano or parmy with a mild aged cheese or > even just butter). > > > I was going to also add that Worcestershire sauce is a common addition to > cheese balls and spreads, Balsamic vinegar would be good-- even soy sauce would > work (hmm an asian-fusion cheese spread- possibilities are endless *laughs*) The dips sell well. This is a sore spot with me since we get them delivered from somewhere else, and I think we could make them more cost effectively ourselves. That makes this a delicate subject with my boss since, nice guy though he is, I sometimes think he interprets suggestions that I mean for the good of the company as digs that I don't think he knows what he's doing. He does know a ton about cheese and wine. He impresses me every day, but I'm a little better on this sort of cost control and recipes. I think almost anything made from the leftover cheeses in a cuisinart would work. --Lia |
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Barbtail wrote:
>>Do you have any experience with using harder cheeses like parmesan the >>same way? > > > The harder cheeses don't break down as nicely as cheddar, swiss, edam, etc, but > you can add them. Pre- grate them with a microplane thing. I suppose you could > try soaking them in liquid, but I have not tried that. I don't think people > mind the texture- it's expected of hard cheeses or you could sell it as a > spread for toasting- like for bruchetta(sp) or something (I'd omit the cream > cheese in this case and bind the romano or parmy with a mild aged cheese or > even just butter). > > > I was going to also add that Worcestershire sauce is a common addition to > cheese balls and spreads, Balsamic vinegar would be good-- even soy sauce would > work (hmm an asian-fusion cheese spread- possibilities are endless *laughs*) The dips sell well. This is a sore spot with me since we get them delivered from somewhere else, and I think we could make them more cost effectively ourselves. That makes this a delicate subject with my boss since, nice guy though he is, I sometimes think he interprets suggestions that I mean for the good of the company as digs that I don't think he knows what he's doing. He does know a ton about cheese and wine. He impresses me every day, but I'm a little better on this sort of cost control and recipes. I think almost anything made from the leftover cheeses in a cuisinart would work. --Lia |
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