And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!

Yay VitaCost!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

John Kuthe wrote:

> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!

Not one, but two! You're a mover and shaker!

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On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 7:54:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>
> Yay VitaCost!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
If you were truly worried about the planet you'd not order your detergent
online, thus burning petroleum to have these items delivered to you. You'd
make your own detergent and crow about that; the 'recipe' has been posted
here in the past and can easily be found.

But as usual, you're just a hypocrite and all your posts consist of ME! ME! ME!
Look at meeeeeee!!!!!!!

On 4/28/2021 8:54 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>
> Yay VitaCost!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Do you want a medal, or a Willkie badge?

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:54:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe >
wrote:

>And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>
>Yay VitaCost!
>
>John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

HOLY sweet mother of Jesus! That is truly remarkable! What kind of
hack did this require? I envy guys like you with computer degrees.

In article >,
says...
>
> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!


At long last,complaints from clients to the nursing agency force Kuthe
to wash his underwear.

Janet UK

On 2021-04-29 9:25 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>
>
> At long last,complaints from clients to the nursing agency force Kuthe
> to wash his underwear.
>

I had a co-worker who always smelled bad. The guy was nuts to begin with
an always short of money because he took so much time off that he had to
do it without pay. I wondered if he saved money by not doing laundry.
The BO was bad enough, but he always smelled like shit.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 7:54:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>>
>> Yay VitaCost!
>>
>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>
> If you were truly worried about the planet you'd not order your detergent
> online, thus burning petroleum to have these items delivered to you. You'd
> make your own detergent and crow about that; the 'recipe' has been posted
> here in the past and can easily be found.
>
> But as usual, you're just a hypocrite and all your posts consist of ME! ME! ME!
> Look at meeeeeee!!!!!!!

I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.

Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!

-sw

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 7:54:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>
> >> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
> >>
> >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> >>
> > If you were truly worried about the planet you'd not order your detergent
> > online, thus burning petroleum to have these items delivered to you. You'd
> > make your own detergent and crow about that; the 'recipe' has been posted
> > here in the past and can easily be found.
> >
> I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
> lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
> standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
> in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
> Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.
>
Welllllllll, if you wanted to save some money you could dump the charcoal
lighter fluid and just use a chimney starter with a couple of sheets of news-
paper stuffed under the bottom to get your charcoal lit. But if you are RICH!
RICH!! RICH!!! like Kuthe what's a couple of bucks for a can of lighter fluid?
>
> Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
> 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
>
> -sw
>
I agree.

On 4/28/2021 8:54 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>
> Yay VitaCost!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
Why the hell do you think anyone (other than VitaCost) actually cares
about this?

Jill

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:57:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:26:52 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 7:54:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And I ordered two boxes of Planet dry laundry soap from them!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>
>>> If you were truly worried about the planet you'd not order your detergent
>>> online, thus burning petroleum to have these items delivered to you. You'd
>>> make your own detergent and crow about that; the 'recipe' has been posted
>>> here in the past and can easily be found.
>>>
>> I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
>> lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
>> standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
>> in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
>> Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.
>>
> Welllllllll, if you wanted to save some money you could dump the charcoal
> lighter fluid and just use a chimney starter with a couple of sheets of news-
> paper stuffed under the bottom to get your charcoal lit.

But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
I never said I use charcoal lighter fluid for grilling/smoking.

-sw

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:21:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:57:50 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> >> I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
> >> lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
> >> standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
> >> in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
> >> Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.
> >>
> > Welllllllll, if you wanted to save some money you could dump the charcoal
> > lighter fluid and just use a chimney starter with a couple of sheets of news-
> > paper stuffed under the bottom to get your charcoal lit.
>
> But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
> I never said I use charcoal lighter fluid for grilling/smoking.
>
> -sw
>
Ummmmm, have you heard about Resolve or Spray 'n Wash pretreatment
sprays for grease stain? Gooooood stuff and they always have coupons.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:15:05 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:21:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:57:50 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
>>>> lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
>>>> standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
>>>> in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
>>>> Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.
>>>>
>>> Welllllllll, if you wanted to save some money you could dump the charcoal
>>> lighter fluid and just use a chimney starter with a couple of sheets of news-
>>> paper stuffed under the bottom to get your charcoal lit.
>>
>> But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
>> I never said I use charcoal lighter fluid for grilling/smoking.
>>
> Ummmmm, have you heard about Resolve or Spray 'n Wash pretreatment
> sprays for grease stain? Gooooood stuff and they always have coupons.

Ummmmmm, it doesn't work NEARLY as well as charcoal lighter fluid,
and it only costs $2.49 for a 48oz jug.

I wasted a bottle Shout! on ONE stain a couple months ago. $.04 of
lighter fluid did the trick.

You're trying to trap me into using newspaper and now Resolve for
some unknown reason. Where is is the goalpost in this game?

-sw

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 10:29:10 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:15:05 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> > Ummmmm, have you heard about Resolve or Spray 'n Wash pretreatment
> > sprays for grease stain? Gooooood stuff and they always have coupons.
>
> Ummmmmm, it doesn't work NEARLY as well as charcoal lighter fluid,
> and it only costs $2.49 for a 48oz jug.
>
> I wasted a bottle Shout! on ONE stain a couple months ago. $.04 of
> lighter fluid did the trick.
>
I've never had Resolve or Spray 'n Wash fail to take a grease stain out. I
spray the spot well, then roll up the shirt or pants so the treatment will stay
moist and give it time to break down the stain.
>
> You're trying to trap me into using newspaper and now Resolve for
> some unknown reason. Where is the goalpost in this game?
>
> -sw
>
I get my coupons online; I've not had access to a newspaper for many
years. Coupons that I get online can either be printed off or saved to
my phone.

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:20:44 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:

> I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
> lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
> standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
> in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
> Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.

I'll have to suggest that fragrance to my husband. He's been using
Hoppe's Number 9 gun cleaner. Just a dab on the pulse points.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:21:23 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:

> But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?

WD-40. It'll even clean oil-based wood stain off of clothes.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:24:03 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:21:23 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
> WD-40. It'll even clean oil-based wood stain off of clothes.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
But have there been any studies where women's impressions of manliness
were compared between "WD-40," "Kingsford Man," and "Hoppe's No. 9"?
Asking for a friend.
>
--Bryan

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 5:33:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:24:03 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:21:23 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > > But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
> > WD-40. It'll even clean oil-based wood stain off of clothes.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> But have there been any studies where women's impressions of manliness
> were compared between "WD-40," "Kingsford Man," and "Hoppe's No. 9"?
> Asking for a friend.

A literature search reveals no such study.

My favorite fragrance, though, is freshly sawn lumber (not pressure treated).

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:42:02 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 5:33:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:24:03 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:21:23 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > > But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
> > > WD-40. It'll even clean oil-based wood stain off of clothes.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > But have there been any studies where women's impressions of manliness
> > were compared between "WD-40," "Kingsford Man," and "Hoppe's No. 9"?
> > Asking for a friend.
> A literature search reveals no such study.
>
> My favorite fragrance, though, is freshly sawn lumber (not pressure treated).
>
I'm partial to neroli and vanilla.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
--Bryan

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 03:10:33 -0700, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> I'm partial to neroli and vanilla.

Sandalwood.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 22:15:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 10:29:10 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:15:05 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ummmmm, have you heard about Resolve or Spray 'n Wash pretreatment
>>> sprays for grease stain? Gooooood stuff and they always have coupons.
>>
>> Ummmmmm, it doesn't work NEARLY as well as charcoal lighter fluid,
>> and it only costs $2.49 for a 48oz jug.
>>
>> I wasted a bottle Shout! on ONE stain a couple months ago. $.04 of
>> lighter fluid did the trick.
>>
> I've never had Resolve or Spray 'n Wash fail to take a grease stain out. I
> spray the spot well, then roll up the shirt or pants so the treatment will stay
> moist and give it time to break down the stain.
>>
>> You're trying to trap me into using newspaper and now Resolve for
>> some unknown reason. Where is the goalpost in this game?
>>
>> -sw
>>
> I get my coupons online; I've not had access to a newspaper for many
> years. Coupons that I get online can either be printed off or saved to
> my phone.

<sigh> First it was I should use newspaper to light my charcoal
(even though I wasn't lighting charcoal), and then it was I should
buy Resolve for my grease stains. You're one step ahead opf of me
while still being one step behind.

Like I asked, where is the goalposts in this game? Or you could be
you, and I could be me. My post started out being satire of sorts
and you kept changing this shit up.

-sw

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:24:00 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:21:23 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
>
> WD-40. It'll even clean oil-based wood stain off of clothes.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I think I tired that and I forget happened. Lord knows I've got
shitloads of that around in various brands. I'll try it again.

-sw

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:41:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 5:33:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>> But have there been any studies where women's impressions of manliness
>> were compared between "WD-40," "Kingsford Man," and "Hoppe's No. 9"?
>> Asking for a friend.
>
> A literature search reveals no such study.
>
> My favorite fragrance, though, is freshly sawn lumber (not pressure treated).

Pine? Birch? Oak?

-sw

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 6:46:42 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:41:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 5:33:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> >> But have there been any studies where women's impressions of manliness
> >> were compared between "WD-40," "Kingsford Man," and "Hoppe's No. 9"?
> >> Asking for a friend.
> >
> > A literature search reveals no such study.
> >
> > My favorite fragrance, though, is freshly sawn lumber (not pressure treated).
> Pine? Birch? Oak?
>
Hickory smells very nice. I imagine pecan would as well.
>
> -sw
>
--Bryan

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 7:46:42 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:41:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 5:33:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> >> But have there been any studies where women's impressions of manliness
> >> were compared between "WD-40," "Kingsford Man," and "Hoppe's No. 9"?
> >> Asking for a friend.
> >
> > A literature search reveals no such study.
> >
> > My favorite fragrance, though, is freshly sawn lumber (not pressure treated).
> Pine? Birch? Oak?

Usually SPF dimensional, although white cedar is very nice, too.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-04-30 5:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:21:23 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> But then what would I use to get the greasy stains off my clothes?!?
>
> WD-40. It'll even clean oil-based wood stain off of clothes.
>
>

That stuff is magic. Back in the days of dot matrix printers you could
revive an old used up ribbon with WD40. Spray it into the spool, put the
unit into a plastic bag for a week or so and it would be like a brand
new ribbon. The story was that the ribbons don't really run out of ink
so much as the solvent dissipating.

On 30/04/2021 10:22, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 4:20:44 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> I've gone back to using fossil-fuel (petroleum) derived charcoal
>> lighter fluid that meets the South Coast Air Quality Management
>> standards for my laundry. The lighter fluid smell mostly dissipates
>> in the dryer and what little odor is left gives me that "Real
>> Kingsford Man" aftershave fragrance.
>
> I'll have to suggest that fragrance to my husband. He's been using
> Hoppe's Number 9 gun cleaner. Just a dab on the pulse points.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

===

Oooh I think my husband would love that <G>

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
....
> Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
> 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
>
> -sw

Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand Porsche, look it up!


John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

John Kuthe wrote:

> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> ...
> > Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
> > 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
> >
> > -sw
>
> Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand
> Porsche, look it up!
>
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Ok, but did Americans at least invent apple pie?

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On 5/1/2021 9:24 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> ...
>> Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
>> 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
>>
>> -sw
>
> Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand Porsche, look it up!
>
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>

I did and found nothing about it. The only story I heard was he got the
idea from a meat packing plant.

Ransom E Olds actually had an assembly line earlier but it was not a
moving line like Ford's.

Why did Ransom E Olds invent the assembly line?
Olds Creates the First Automobile Assembly Line. The first Oldsmobile
logo. The assembly line approach to building automobiles enabled Olds to
more than quintuple his factory's output, from 425 cars in 1901 to 2,500
in 1902, to up to 5000 units in 1904.

Ford and Porsche had a rivalry with race cars, found nothing about the
assembly line.

On 5/1/2021 9:33 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>> ...
>>> Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
>>> 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand
>> Porsche, look it up!
>>
>>
>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
> Ok, but did Americans at least invent apple pie?
>

Apple Pie Originated in England
The first written apple pie recipe goes back to 1381 in b) England. It
was printed by Geoffrey Chaucer and included apples, figs, raisins,
pears and a pastry shell (but no sugar).

Why is apple pie so American?
Even the apples used in apple pies are not native to America. ... So,
sometime at the end of the 18th century, with the help of the apple
preserving techniques brought over by Dutch immigrants and the (actually
edible) flaky, pastry crust brought over by German immigrants, the
American apple pie was born.

But the apple pie isn't a uniquely American dish either, Upton writes.
€œIn fact, the first recorded recipe for apple pie was written in 1381 in
England, and called for figs, raisins, pears, and saffron in addition to
apples,€� she writes. ... There are also recipes for Dutch apple pies as
far back as 1514, she writes

It is rumored that Henry Ford originally made apple pie on an assembly
line in a bakery in St. Louis and it was run by Ferdinand Porsche.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/1/2021 9:33 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> >> Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand
> > > Porsche, look it up!
> > >
> > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> >
> > Ok, but did Americans at least invent apple pie?
> >
>
> Apple Pie Originated in England
> The first written apple pie recipe goes back to 1381 in b) England.
> It was printed by Geoffrey Chaucer and included apples, figs,
> raisins, pears and a pastry shell (but no sugar).
>
> Why is apple pie so American?
> Even the apples used in apple pies are not native to America. ... So,
> sometime at the end of the 18th century, with the help of the apple
> preserving techniques brought over by Dutch immigrants and the
> (actually edible) flaky, pastry crust brought over by German
> immigrants, the American apple pie was born.
>
> But the apple pie isn't a uniquely American dish either, Upton
> writes. €œIn fact, the first recorded recipe for apple pie was written
> in 1381 in England, and called for figs, raisins, pears, and saffron
> in addition to apples,€� she writes. ... There are also recipes for
> Dutch apple pies as far back as 1514, she writes

I remember what Cheri would say: Europeans may have invented it, but
Americans perfected it

--
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John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> ...
>> Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal, the
>> 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
>>
>> -sw
>
> Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand Porsche, look it up!
>
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>

And he learned about electricity from nicola tesla, right?

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/1/2021 9:33 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:20:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> Thank you Henry Ford for the assembly line, Kingsford charcoal,
>>>> the
>>>> 6-day work week, and all these fine petroleum-burning cars!
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>> Henry Ford actually learned about the assembly line from Ferdinand
>>> Porsche, look it up!
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>
>> Ok, but did Americans at least invent apple pie?
>>
>
> Apple Pie Originated in England
> The first written apple pie recipe goes back to 1381 in b) England.
> It was printed by Geoffrey Chaucer and included apples, figs,
> raisins, pears and a pastry shell (but no sugar).
>
> Why is apple pie so American?
> Even the apples used in apple pies are not native to America. ...
> So, sometime at the end of the 18th century, with the help of the
> apple preserving techniques brought over by Dutch immigrants and
> the (actually edible) flaky, pastry crust brought over by German
> immigrants, the American apple pie was born.
>
> But the apple pie isn't a uniquely American dish either, Upton
> writes. €œIn fact, the first recorded recipe for apple pie was
> written in 1381 in England, and called for figs, raisins, pears,
> and saffron in addition to apples,€� she writes. ... There are
> also recipes for Dutch apple pies as far back as 1514, she writes
>
> It is rumored that Henry Ford originally made apple pie on* an
> assembly line in a bakery in St. Louis and it was run by Ferdinand
> Porsche.

And he burned zero gasoline!