On 4/30/2021 9:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/30/2021 7:24 PM, GM wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/30/2021 6:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My new appliance (plastic dinosaur) was made in Indonesia.
>>>>>>> You really want one. You might not know it yet, but you want
>>>>>>> one. Unless you already own a misting fan, or live where it
>>>>>>> doesn't get hot, you want one.
>>>>>>> https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/Pr...g-Fan/p/PMF01B
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're only $50 w/o the battery, and if you don't already have
>>>>>>> RYOBI battery tools, you want those too. My God I'm looking
>>>>>>> forward to camping season this year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got a guitar that's made in Vietnam by a Korean company.
>>>>> From plastic oven control pads, to vaccines, to Indonesian camping
>>>>> fans, to Korean guitars all in three posts with absolutely nothing
>>>>> connecting any of them to each other.
>>>>>
>>>> My misting fan is sublime. Misting fans in general are great. It
>>>> gets hot
>>>> in Texas. If you don't have a misting fan, it's your loss.
>>>>>
>>> I prefer air conditioning. Lowers temperature, removes humidity
>>
>>
>> You mean you don't have a swamp cooler attached to one of your car
>> windows, Ed...???
>>
>> https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog...-swamp-cooler/
>>
>>
>> Cold Comfort: Firestone Thermador Car Cooler (Evaporative €œSwamp Cooler€�)
>>
>> BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER €“ POSTED ON JUNE 30, 2020
>>
>> "Ive been hoping to find a vintage automotive €œswamp cooler€� for
>> quite a while, since I remember these so well from our annual trips to
>> Colorado. And its on a 66 F-100, no less. And at an antique plane
>> show, even. Maybe later€¦ But lets take a quickie look at the way to
>> keep cool before air conditioning, provided you lived in the western
>> half of the country.
>>
>
> Never saw one of them. Great idea, I'm checking on Amazon to order one!

I actually have one of those automotive "swamp coolers"... I didn't know
that's what they were called! It's chilling in my garage - never
cleaned it up. I saved it from the pile on scrap day.

On 4/30/2021 5:58 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 2:36:16 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> I've always wanted an older Frigidaire oven and Hotpoint refrigerator...
>> I thought that would be amusing... lol
>>
> We had a Hotpoint refrigerator when I was a child. My mom won a thousand
> dollars worth of furniture in 1953 or 54 and she could choose whatever she
> wanted. The refrigerator and a Hotpoint gas water heater were two of the
> things she chose. Until that refrigerator died many years later, defrosting the
> freezer was the one chore my dad did every single Saturday.

My 1942 Westinghouse fridge (still in use today in my kitchen) is of
course a manual defrost. When it gets frosty (regular this time of
year), I put a large glass casserole dish under the metal freezer box,
and cut the fridge to "defrost" before bed (only keeps it to 50 degrees
inside the fridge).

It's all melted in the morning, assuming I do this regularly and don't
let a half-inch build up. Quickly wipe the freezer box with a dry
towel, and turn it back to 40 degrees - done and done! I've been doing
this for a couple of years now and haven't gotten food poisoning, so
I'll assume it's OK... lol. I keep a deep freezer in my cellar.

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 8:11:26 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 30, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
> > Not looking for a fan driven swamp cooler here.
> I´ll bet swamp coolers aren´t sold in South Carolina. If they are, the
> seller should be in jail ;-)
>
> leo

I used to have one of those tiny personal units that used a 5V computer fan.. It don't work so good in 70% - 80% relative humidity but I can see it working swell on some parts of the mainland. A stable 70% percent humidity probably doesn't sound like a comfortable place to live but it's pretty good for guitars and the human body.

On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 4/30/2021 9:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/30/2021 7:24 PM, GM wrote:
> >> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 4/30/2021 6:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My new appliance (plastic dinosaur) was made in Indonesia.
> >>>>>>> You really want one. You might not know it yet, but you want
> >>>>>>> one. Unless you already own a misting fan, or live where it
> >>>>>>> doesn't get hot, you want one.
> >>>>>>> https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/Pr...g-Fan/p/PMF01B
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They're only $50 w/o the battery, and if you don't already have
> >>>>>>> RYOBI battery tools, you want those too. My God I'm looking
> >>>>>>> forward to camping season this year.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I got a guitar that's made in Vietnam by a Korean company.
> >>>>> From plastic oven control pads, to vaccines, to Indonesian camping
> >>>>> fans, to Korean guitars all in three posts with absolutely nothing
> >>>>> connecting any of them to each other.
> >>>>>
> >>>> My misting fan is sublime. Misting fans in general are great. It
> >>>> gets hot
> >>>> in Texas. If you don't have a misting fan, it's your loss.
> >>>>>
> >>> I prefer air conditioning. Lowers temperature, removes humidity
> >>
> >>
> >> You mean you don't have a swamp cooler attached to one of your car
> >> windows, Ed...???
> >>
> >> https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog...-swamp-cooler/
> >>
> >>
> >> Cold Comfort: Firestone Thermador Car Cooler (Evaporative €œSwamp Cooler€�)
> >>
> >> BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER €“ POSTED ON JUNE 30, 2020
> >>
> >> "Ive been hoping to find a vintage automotive €œswamp cooler€� for
> >> quite a while, since I remember these so well from our annual trips to
> >> Colorado. And its on a 66 F-100, no less. And at an antique plane
> >> show, even. Maybe later€¦ But lets take a quickie look at the way to
> >> keep cool before air conditioning, provided you lived in the western
> >> half of the country.
> >>
> >
> > Never saw one of them. Great idea, I'm checking on Amazon to order one!
> I actually have one of those automotive "swamp coolers"... I didn't know
> that's what they were called! It's chilling in my garage - never
> cleaned it up. I saved it from the pile on scrap day.

My wife says her dad would hang a canvas bag of water in the front of the car when they would be driving through the desert. It would keep the drinking water cool. That sounds like a dumb idea because a bag of water in the front of a car would block the airflow to the radiator but evidently, people actually did this!

https://stiel.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/img_8165.jpg

On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 5:13:59 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
> > On 4/30/2021 9:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 4/30/2021 7:24 PM, GM wrote:
> > >> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >>> On 4/30/2021 6:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> My new appliance (plastic dinosaur) was made in Indonesia.
> > >>>>>>> You really want one. You might not know it yet, but you want
> > >>>>>>> one. Unless you already own a misting fan, or live where it
> > >>>>>>> doesn't get hot, you want one.
> > >>>>>>> https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/Pr...g-Fan/p/PMF01B
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> They're only $50 w/o the battery, and if you don't already have
> > >>>>>>> RYOBI battery tools, you want those too. My God I'm looking
> > >>>>>>> forward to camping season this year.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I got a guitar that's made in Vietnam by a Korean company.
> > >>>>> From plastic oven control pads, to vaccines, to Indonesian camping
> > >>>>> fans, to Korean guitars all in three posts with absolutely nothing
> > >>>>> connecting any of them to each other.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> My misting fan is sublime. Misting fans in general are great. It
> > >>>> gets hot
> > >>>> in Texas. If you don't have a misting fan, it's your loss.
> > >>>>>
> > >>> I prefer air conditioning. Lowers temperature, removes humidity
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> You mean you don't have a swamp cooler attached to one of your car
> > >> windows, Ed...???
> > >>
> > >> https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog...-swamp-cooler/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Cold Comfort: Firestone Thermador Car Cooler (Evaporative €œSwamp Cooler€�)
> > >>
> > >> BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER €“ POSTED ON JUNE 30, 2020
> > >>
> > >> "Ive been hoping to find a vintage automotive €œswamp cooler€� for
> > >> quite a while, since I remember these so well from our annual trips to
> > >> Colorado. And its on a 66 F-100, no less. And at an antique plane
> > >> show, even. Maybe later€¦ But lets take a quickie look at the way to
> > >> keep cool before air conditioning, provided you lived in the western
> > >> half of the country.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Never saw one of them. Great idea, I'm checking on Amazon to order one!
> > I actually have one of those automotive "swamp coolers"... I didn't know
> > that's what they were called! It's chilling in my garage - never
> > cleaned it up. I saved it from the pile on scrap day.
> My wife says her dad would hang a canvas bag of water in the front of the car when they would be driving through the desert. It would keep the drinking water cool. That sounds like a dumb idea because a bag of water in the front of a car would block the airflow to the radiator but evidently, people actually did this!
>
> https://stiel.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/img_8165.jpg


In your case, you could use it as a douche bag, lol...

--
Best
Greg

On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:

>> I actually have one of those automotive "swamp coolers"... I didn't
>> know that's what they were called! It's chilling in my garage -
>> never cleaned it up. I saved it from the pile on scrap day.
>
> My wife says her dad would hang a canvas bag of water in the front of
> the car when they would be driving through the desert. It would keep
> the drinking water cool. That sounds like a dumb idea because a bag
> of water in the front of a car would block the airflow to the
> radiator but evidently, people actually did this!
>
> https://stiel.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/img_8165.jpg
>


You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage there
would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator when it overheats.
When I was younger canteens often came with a fabric cover. The idea of
that was to wet it and it would help to cool the water.

On 5/1/2021 5:53 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

>
> My 1942 Westinghouse fridge (still in use today in my kitchen) is of
> course a manual defrost.Â* When it gets frosty (regular this time of
> year), I put a large glass casserole dish under the metal freezer box,
> and cut the fridge to "defrost" before bed (only keeps it to 50 degrees
> inside the fridge).
>
> It's all melted in the morning, assuming I do this regularly and don't
> let a half-inch build up.Â* Quickly wipe the freezer box with a dry
> towel, and turn it back to 40 degrees - done and done!Â* I've been doing
> this for a couple of years now and haven't gotten food poisoning, so
> I'll assume it's OK... lol.Â* I keep a deep freezer in my cellar.

I probably uses more electricity that a 30 cu ft modern fridge though.
Has it been restored?

On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> >> I actually have one of those automotive "swamp coolers"... I didn't
> >> know that's what they were called! It's chilling in my garage -
> >> never cleaned it up. I saved it from the pile on scrap day.
> >
> > My wife says her dad would hang a canvas bag of water in the front of
> > the car when they would be driving through the desert. It would keep
> > the drinking water cool. That sounds like a dumb idea because a bag
> > of water in the front of a car would block the airflow to the
> > radiator but evidently, people actually did this!
> >
> > https://stiel.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/img_8165.jpg
> >
> You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage there
> would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator when it overheats.
> When I was younger canteens often came with a fabric cover. The idea of
> that was to wet it and it would help to cool the water.

In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls. The canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated in water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the water in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy to a station. That was a lot of fun.

On 5/1/2021 6:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/1/2021 5:53 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>>
>> My 1942 Westinghouse fridge (still in use today in my kitchen) is of
>> course a manual defrost. When it gets frosty (regular this time of
>> year), I put a large glass casserole dish under the metal freezer box,
>> and cut the fridge to "defrost" before bed (only keeps it to 50
>> degrees inside the fridge).
>>
>> It's all melted in the morning, assuming I do this regularly and don't
>> let a half-inch build up. Quickly wipe the freezer box with a dry
>> towel, and turn it back to 40 degrees - done and done! I've been
>> doing this for a couple of years now and haven't gotten food
>> poisoning, so I'll assume it's OK... lol. I keep a deep freezer in my
>> cellar.
>
> I probably uses more electricity that a 30 cu ft modern fridge though.
> Has it been restored?

Actually, fun fact, we've used a Kill-A-Watt meter to test, and my
fridge uses LESS electricity in a 24 hour cycle than a modern energy
start fridge! My friend that bought the new fridge was kinda ticked
that my 78 year old fridge was more efficient... haha. Keep in mind how
much electricity a modern self-defrosting fridge sucks. That also being
said, it has half the capacity of a modern fridge, but that's just fine
for me.

It's not restored at all, original, cracked rotten door gasket, funky
painted finish, patina, etc. I've been using it for over 2 years now
since I moved into my house, and didn't pay a dime for it. I've also
been advised that I need to check the wiring to the motor... as the
insulation tends to bare off of the wires, and it can short and/or cause
a fire.

On 5/1/2021 6:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>>> I actually have one of those automotive "swamp coolers"... I didn't
>>> know that's what they were called! It's chilling in my garage -
>>> never cleaned it up. I saved it from the pile on scrap day.
>>
>> My wife says her dad would hang a canvas bag of water in the front of
>> the car when they would be driving through the desert. It would keep
>> the drinking water cool. That sounds like a dumb idea because a bag
>> of water in the front of a car would block the airflow to the
>> radiator but evidently, people actually did this!
>>
>> https://stiel.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/img_8165.jpg
>>
>
>
> You're right. It does sound like a bad ideaÂ* The only advantage there
> would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator when it overheats.


That's exactly what those canvas bags were intended for. To refill the
radiator when it overheats. As seen in the film 'The Grapes of Wrath'.

Jill

On 5/1/2021 2:11 AM, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 30, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Not looking for a fan driven swamp cooler here.
>
> I´ll bet swamp coolers aren´t sold in South Carolina. If they are, the
> seller should be in jail ;-)

No kidding. Swamp coolers don't work in high humid areas.

On 5/1/2021 5:44 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 4/30/2021 3:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> My Frigidaire gas oven is self-cleaning.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Really? I didn't know such a thing existed with NG units.

My old gas oven is self-cleaning. I clean it myself.
That "Easy Off" oven cleaner lives up to it's name.
So quick and easy to do, I always wonder why I waited so long.

On 5/2/2021 9:14 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 5/1/2021 2:11 AM, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Apr 30, , jmcquown wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> Not looking for a fan driven swamp cooler here.
>>
>> I´ll bet swamp coolers aren´t sold in South Carolina. If they are, the
>> seller should be in jail ;-)
>
> No kidding. Swamp coolers don't work in high humid areas.
>
>
>
The device Bryan speaks about makes it feel even more humid. I'll stick
with my central AC.

Jill

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 3:16:51 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 5/1/2021 5:44 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > On 4/30/2021 3:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> My Frigidaire gas oven is self-cleaning.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Really? I didn't know such a thing existed with NG units.
> My old gas oven is self-cleaning. I clean it myself.
> That "Easy Off" oven cleaner lives up to it's name.
> So quick and easy to do, I always wonder why I waited so long.

The first time I used the self-cleaning feature on my new Samsung range, the thing crapped out. The fix was easy, just replace the temperature sensor. The feature should be called "self-destruct." I figured I should just buy a bunch of them and replace them as they fail. Instead, I just stopped using that feature. Too bad because it works just swell.

On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

>> You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
>> there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator when
>> it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a fabric
>> cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help to cool the
>> water.
>
> In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The
> only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls. The
> canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated in
> water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the water
> in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy to a
> station. That was a lot of fun.
>

Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.

Michael Trew wrote:

> On 4/30/2021 3:58 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 15:35:35 -0400, Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> > > On 4/30/2021 5:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 12:00:43 AM UTC-4, Michael Trew
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On 4/29/2021 7:57 PM, Geoff Rove wrote:
> > > > > > My $1200 Frigidaire Oven has a plastic sheet over the
> > > > > > control "push buttons" which has now unglued and is
> > > > > > floating behind the metal frame. This plastic sheet has
> > > > > > the lettering for the setting for temperature, timer, etc.
> > > > > > and covers the settings buttons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No way do I trust the "warp speed" production of vaccine
> > > > > > batches which require precise mixture of ingredients.
> > > > > Get a better stove. I have a 1950's Chambers oven, back when
> > > > > they made things the proper way in the USA; built to last.
> > > >
> > > > Two words: self cleaning.
> > > >
> > > > I'll never use oven cleaner again.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > I'll assume that means you use an electric oven. I'd lose my
> > > mind if I had to switch back to an electric cook top. I much
> > > prefer a gas range.
> >
> > My Frigidaire gas oven is self-cleaning.
> >
> > -sw
>
> Really? I didn't know such a thing existed with NG units.

Yup.. Mine has it.

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 7:52:28 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> >> You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
> >> there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator when
> >> it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a fabric
> >> cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help to cool the
> >> water.
> >
> > In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The
> > only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls. The
> > canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated in
> > water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the water
> > in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy to a
> > station. That was a lot of fun.
> >
> Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
> remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.

How often have you traveled across the desert? If you're saying that you have more experience with hanging canvas bags of water than I, it would make sense. Saying that you have no experience with this means you have zero experience. I too have zero experience with this. Age got nothing to do with it. A baby would have the same experience with desert water bags.
These bags and swamp coolers work by the curious property of materials that change from a solid to a liquid or from a liquid to a gas: they absorb heat. This heat absorption during phase changes of materials is how modern refrigeration works. Evidently, swamp coolers for cars were in use back in the old days. The look like a lot of fun!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/93...a662804b09.jpg

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > > You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
> > > there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator
> > > when it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a
> > > fabric cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help to
> > > cool the water.
> >
> > In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The
> > only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls.
> > The canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated
> > in water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the
> > water in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy
> > to a station. That was a lot of fun.
> >
>
> Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
> remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.

Um, Dave, you live in Canada. This one would be for traveling in 100F
or so places.

cshenk wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > > You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
> > > > there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator
> > > > when it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a
> > > > fabric cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help
> > > > to cool the water.
> > >
> > > In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament.
> > > The only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a
> > > Rolls. The canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be
> > > saturated in water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I
> > > have used the water in my windshield washer reservoir to get my
> > > overheated Chevy to a station. That was a lot of fun.
> > >
> >
> > Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
> > remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from
> > one.
>
> Um, Dave, you live in Canada. This one would be for traveling in 100F
> or so places.

Don't forget the Okanagan desert.

--
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On Sun, 02 May 2021 17:05:21 -0500, "cshenk"
> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> > > You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
>> > > there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator
>> > > when it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a
>> > > fabric cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help to
>> > > cool the water.
>> >
>> > In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The
>> > only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls.
>> > The canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated
>> > in water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the
>> > water in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy
>> > to a station. That was a lot of fun.
>>
>> Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
>> remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.
>
>Um, Dave, you live in Canada. This one would be for traveling in 100F
>or so places.

You UNeducated ****, canteen covers were kept wet as evaporation
cooled the water inside. Navy white hats were kept wet for the same
reason... YOU WERE NEVER IN THE US NAVY or any military... every girl
scout knows that evaporation cools.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 02 May 2021 17:05:21 -0500, "cshenk"
> > wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
>>>>> there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator
>>>>> when it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a
>>>>> fabric cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help to
>>>>> cool the water.
>>>>
>>>> In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The
>>>> only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls.
>>>> The canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated
>>>> in water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the
>>>> water in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy
>>>> to a station. That was a lot of fun.
>>>
>>> Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
>>> remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.
>>
>> Um, Dave, you live in Canada. This one would be for traveling in 100F
>> or so places.
>
> You UNeducated ****, canteen covers were kept wet as evaporation
> cooled the water inside. Navy white hats were kept wet for the same
> reason... YOU WERE NEVER IN THE US NAVY or any military... every girl
> scout knows that evaporation cools.
>

Yay! Popeye, yoose almost back to yoose old nasty ass self!

Hows about a short sex story to get yoose closer to normal?

On 5/2/2021 6:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-01 6:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 12:30:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-05-01 6:13 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>> You're right. It does sound like a bad idea The only advantage
>>>> there would be that it would be handy for filling the radiator
>>>> when it overheats. When I was younger canteens often came with a
>>>> fabric cover. The idea of that was to wet it and it would help to
>>>> cool the water.
>>>
>>> In the old days, people would hang the bag on the hood ornament. The
>>> only cars around these days with hood ornaments would be a Rolls.
>>> The canvas covers on the canteens were indeed meant to be saturated
>>> in water to help keep it cool - for a short while. I have used the
>>> water in my windshield washer reservoir to get my overheated Chevy
>>> to a station. That was a lot of fun.
>>>
>>
>> Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
>> remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.
>
> Um, Dave, you live in Canada. This one would be for traveling in 100F
> or so places.
>
It would also be well before dsi1's time. His wife told him her father
used to drive through the desert with a bag filled with water, and I
sincerely doubt he was driving a Rolls Royce.

Jill

On 2021 May 2, , Dave Smith wrote
(in article >):

> Are you more experiences with the old days that I am. I am 70. I
> remember hood ornaments, but I never saw a water bag hanging from one.

Water bags over radiators were common in Nevada during the fifties. Going
from one town to another often encompasses fifty to a hundred miles with very
little or nothing in-between, and it´s hot in the summer.
Coolers full of ice and beer, plastic water jugs, better cars, better
communications and a bit more traffic has eliminated the need for the
old-time canvas water carriers, but I still remember them.
Oh, and as someone mentioned up-thread, the disappearance of hood ornaments
made it impossible. I haven´t ever seen an eyebolt screwed into any hoods
where the ornament used to sit, so I think the practice is dead.

On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 9:51:10 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:57:19 -0700 (PDT), Geoff Rove wrote:
>
> > My $1200 Frigidaire Oven has a plastic sheet over the control
> > "push buttons" which has now unglued and is floating behind the
> > metal frame. This plastic sheet has the lettering for the setting
> > for temperature, timer, etc. and covers the settings buttons.
> I have the same brand the same oven/range with the plastic sheet.
> Has it melted and warped over the last 13 years? Yes. Is it still
> functional? Yes. It front the heat coming up out the oven vent
> directly underneath it.

No melting or warping, it just became loose and "floated" up.

>
> https://i.postimg.cc/pXF6ZQMT/Ocen-Front.jpg
> > No way do I trust the "warp speed" production of vaccine batches
> > which require precise mixture of ingredients.
> Vaccines don't use a "little of this" and a "little of that" (except
> eye of newt). It doesn't work that way.

Well the Baltimore plant got their recipe mixed up:

"Canada's drug regulator said on Friday that doses of Johnson & Johnson's (JNJ.N) COVID-19 vaccine recently delivered to the country were produced at a Baltimore plant where the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) halted production.
Health Canada said in a statement that it will hold the vaccine doses until it is satisfied they meet its standards, and is consulting with J&J and the FDA. The first shipment of 300,000 J&J vaccine doses arrived in Canada earlier this week.

The FDA halted production of the vaccines at a U.S. manufacturing plant owned by Emergent BioSolutions (EBS.N) earlier this month as it investigates an error that led to millions of doses being ruined in March. read more
Late on Friday, Health Canada said it had learned that the active ingredient in the vaccine had been made at the Emergent site, and the final vaccines were manufactured at a different site outside the United States."
.....
"Production of Johnson & Johnsons (JNJ.N) COVID-19 vaccine at a U.S. manufacturing plant was halted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration while the agency investigates an error that led to millions of doses being ruined last month.
Emergent BioSolutions Inc (EBS.N), the company that owns and runs the Baltimore plant that had been making the J&J vaccine, said in a regulatory filing that the FDA requested a pause on April 16 in production of new drug substance for the shot pending completion of the inspection.

Johnson & Johnson said it would work with Emergent and the FDA to address any findings at the end of the inspection.
J&J was put in charge of manufacturing at the plant in early April by the U..S. government after it disclosed the error in which ingredients from AstraZenecas shot (AZN.L) also being produced at the plant at that time contaminated a batch of the J&J vaccine.
The request to pause manufacturing is the latest setback to J&J's vaccine, which has been paused for use by U.S. regulators as they review reports of rare but serious brain blood clots in people who took the one-dose shot."

CONTAMINATED !!!!!