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bruce bowser wrote:

> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> Stole this from another group
> > >>
> > >> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> > >
> > > I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> > > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> > > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
> > > when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
> > > butter squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with
> > > the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
> > > vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked
> > > some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was
> > > good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.

> > Over the years we've had friend that are pescatarian and vegetarian
> > and never had a problem. We could always make a suitable meal or
> > enjoy one at their house. Vegan would be out of the question. Bring
> > your own food.

>
> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.


Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by RFC.

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On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-10, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> bruce bowser wrote:
>
> > On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >> Stole this from another group
> > > >>
> > > >> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> > > >
> > > > I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> > > > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> > > > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
> > > > when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
> > > > butter squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with
> > > > the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
> > > > vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked
> > > > some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was
> > > > good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
> > > Over the years we've had friend that are pescatarian and vegetarian
> > > and never had a problem. We could always make a suitable meal or
> > > enjoy one at their house. Vegan would be out of the question. Bring
> > > your own food.

> >
> > A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
> > really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.

> Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by RFC.
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We don't care what those nerd have to say - or do we? This guy sounds like the President of the United States. How cool is that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNKbpeUwYzg
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dsi1 wrote:

> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 10:59:53 PM UTC-10, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> > > A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
> > > really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.

> > Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by
> > RFC.
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> We don't care what those nerd have to say - or do we? This guy sounds
> like the President of the United States. How cool is that?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNKbpeUwYzg


LOL

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On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
wrote:

>bruce bowser wrote:
>
>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > >> Stole this from another group
>> > >>
>> > >> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
>> > >
>> > > I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
>> > > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
>> > > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
>> > > when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
>> > > butter squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with
>> > > the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
>> > > vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked
>> > > some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was
>> > > good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
>> > Over the years we've had friend that are pescatarian and vegetarian
>> > and never had a problem. We could always make a suitable meal or
>> > enjoy one at their house. Vegan would be out of the question. Bring
>> > your own food.

>>
>> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
>> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.

>
>Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by RFC.


Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.
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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 12:18:19 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> wrote:
> >bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> > On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> > >> Stole this from another group
> >> > >>
> >> > >> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> >> > >
> >> > > I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> >> > > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> >> > > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
> >> > > when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
> >> > > butter squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with
> >> > > the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
> >> > > vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked
> >> > > some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was
> >> > > good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
> >> > Over the years we've had friend that are pescatarian and vegetarian
> >> > and never had a problem. We could always make a suitable meal or
> >> > enjoy one at their house. Vegan would be out of the question. Bring
> >> > your own food.
> >>
> >> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
> >> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.

> >
> >Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by RFC.

> Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.


I bet the Whole Foods markets in Brooklyn carry fake meat.

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On 5/2/2021 12:18 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> wrote:
>
>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> Stole this from another group
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
>>>>> don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
>>>>> choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
>>>>> when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
>>>>> butter squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with
>>>>> the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
>>>>> vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked
>>>>> some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was
>>>>> good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
>>>> Over the years we've had friend that are pescatarian and vegetarian
>>>> and never had a problem. We could always make a suitable meal or
>>>> enjoy one at their house. Vegan would be out of the question. Bring
>>>> your own food.
>>>
>>> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
>>> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.

>>
>> Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by RFC.

>
> Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.
>

Oh hush. The two bruces are talking amongst themselves about veggie
burgers. Obviously they know more than we do about what tastes good. Heh.

'Impossible' (plant based) faux meat is for sale these days even at your
beloved Tops Market. Doesn't mean many of us want to eat it.

Even before this odd meatlike substance (it's not frozen, it's in a
cryo-vac'd package that looks like ground beef - talk about MYSTERY
MEAT!) there were frozen Boca Burgers. Lots of chemicals pretending to
taste like meat. Don't ask me why some vegetarians want to eat this
faux meat stuff.

For a while Burger King had a huge TV advertising push "Impossible
Whoppers". "Plant based meat. That ad campaign lasted about 6 months
then suddenly it's gone and they're back to touting two whole beef
patties on a sesame seed bun. Go figure.

Advertising for such things, especially fast food, has ZERO impact on my
interest in trying it. I've tasted Boca burgers in years past and they
taste like crap.

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jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/2/2021 12:18 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > bruce bowser wrote:
> > >
> > > > A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers.
> > > > They've really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.
> > >
> > > Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal
> > > by RFC.

> >
> > Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.
> >

> Oh hush. The two bruces are talking amongst themselves about veggie
> burgers. Obviously they know more than we do about what tastes good.
> Heh.


I can only speak for myself. Many of the faux ones taste good to me.
The ingredient list can be bad, though. But at least "animal suffering"
isn't on it.

> 'Impossible' (plant based) faux meat is for sale these days even at
> your beloved Tops Market. Doesn't mean many of us want to eat it.


Who says you want to eat it? Can we only talk about things YOU want to
eat here? That would be quite limiting.

> Even before this odd meatlike substance (it's not frozen, it's in a
> cryo-vac'd package that looks like ground beef - talk about MYSTERY
> MEAT!) there were frozen Boca Burgers. Lots of chemicals pretending
> to taste like meat. Don't ask me why some vegetarians want to eat
> this faux meat stuff.


Maybe they like the taste of meat but don't like the animal abuse?
Sorry, was that hard to understand?

> For a while Burger King had a huge TV advertising push "Impossible
> Whoppers". "Plant based meat. That ad campaign lasted about 6
> months then suddenly it's gone and they're back to touting two whole
> beef patties on a sesame seed bun. Go figure.


Figure what?

> Advertising for such things, especially fast food, has ZERO impact on
> my interest in trying it. I've tasted Boca burgers in years past and
> they taste like crap.


I don't think staunch corpse eaters are the main target audience of
these ads.

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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 12:55:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 5/2/2021 12:18 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> bruce bowser wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>> Stole this from another group
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> >>>>> don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> >>>>> choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
> >>>>> when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
> >>>>> butter squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with
> >>>>> the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
> >>>>> vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked
> >>>>> some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was
> >>>>> good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
> >>>> Over the years we've had friend that are pescatarian and vegetarian
> >>>> and never had a problem. We could always make a suitable meal or
> >>>> enjoy one at their house. Vegan would be out of the question. Bring
> >>>> your own food.
> >>>
> >>> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
> >>> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.
> >>
> >> Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by RFC.

> >
> > Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.
> >

> Oh hush. The two bruces are talking amongst themselves about veggie
> burgers.


That excludes me. Though I like those beyond sausage links sliced the long way with grits and eggs. And toast.

Very good.
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bruce bowser wrote:

> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 12:55:12 PM UTC-4,
> wrote:
> > On 5/2/2021 12:18 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > > On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> bruce bowser wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski

> > wrote: >>>> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >>>>> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >>>>>> Stole this from another group
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I

> > just >>>>> don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to
> > guests who >>>>> choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once
> > in a while >>>>> when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their
> > vegan peanut >>>>> butter squares. They are incredible. When I went
> > to Georgia with >>>>> the club a couple years ago the group was
> > willing to indulge out >>>>> vegan member and someone made an
> > delicious vegan chili. I cooked >>>>> some shrimp and someone else
> > cooked sausage. The vegan dish was >>>>> good, but the shrimp and
> > sausage made it a meal. >>>> Over the years we've had friend that
> > are pescatarian and vegetarian >>>> and never had a problem. We
> > could always make a suitable meal or >>>> enjoy one at their house.
> > Vegan would be out of the question. Bring >>>> your own food.
> > >>>
> > >>> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers.

> > They've >>> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.
> > >>
> > >> Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal

> > by RFC.
> > >
> > > Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.
> > >

> > Oh hush. The two bruces are talking amongst themselves about veggie
> > burgers.

>
> That excludes me. Though I like those beyond sausage links sliced
> the long way with grits and eggs. And toast.
>
> Very good.


We've tried a few fake meats recently. One was mealy, many were ok and
some were really good. But don't look at the ingredient lists.

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On 5/6/2021 5:17 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> bruce bowser wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 12:55:12 PM UTC-4,
>> wrote:
>>> On 5/2/2021 12:18 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>> On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 11:34:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>> wrote: >>>> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Stole this from another group
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I
>>> just >>>>> don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to
>>> guests who >>>>> choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once
>>> in a while >>>>> when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their
>>> vegan peanut >>>>> butter squares. They are incredible. When I went
>>> to Georgia with >>>>> the club a couple years ago the group was
>>> willing to indulge out >>>>> vegan member and someone made an
>>> delicious vegan chili. I cooked >>>>> some shrimp and someone else
>>> cooked sausage. The vegan dish was >>>>> good, but the shrimp and
>>> sausage made it a meal. >>>> Over the years we've had friend that
>>> are pescatarian and vegetarian >>>> and never had a problem. We
>>> could always make a suitable meal or >>>> enjoy one at their house.
>>> Vegan would be out of the question. Bring >>>> your own food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers.
>>> They've >>> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal
>>> by RFC.
>>>>
>>>> Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.
>>>>
>>> Oh hush. The two bruces are talking amongst themselves about veggie
>>> burgers.

>>
>> That excludes me. Though I like those beyond sausage links sliced
>> the long way with grits and eggs. And toast.
>>
>> Very good.

>
> We've tried a few fake meats recently. One was mealy, many were ok and
> some were really good. But don't look at the ingredient lists.
>

At last! Let's have a polite discussion. Definitely don't look at the
ingredients lists for the old Boca Burgers and Morningstar Farms faux
meat products. Unless you just love injesting chemicals. I've been
saying that for years.

The newer stuff isn't sold frozen, it's cryo-vac'd and sold "fresh" in
the cold case. Plant-based meat. The ingredients on the Beyond brand
aren't horrible. This is the sausage links bowser is referring to:

Ingredients. Water, Pea Protein*, Refined Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil,
Natural Flavor, Contains 2% or less of: Rice Protein, Faba Bean Protein,
Potato Starch, Salt, Fruit Juice (For Color), Vegetable Juice (For
Color), Apple Fiber, Methylcellulose, Citrus Extract (To Protect
Quality), Calcium Alginate Casing.

It's still not meat. It won't tempt me to buy it.

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jmcquown wrote:

> At last! Let's have a polite discussion. Definitely don't look at
> the ingredients lists for the old Boca Burgers and Morningstar Farms
> faux meat products. Unless you just love injesting chemicals. I've
> been saying that for years.
>
> The newer stuff isn't sold frozen, it's cryo-vac'd and sold "fresh"
> in the cold case. Plant-based meat. The ingredients on the Beyond
> brand aren't horrible. This is the sausage links bowser is referring
> to:
>
> Ingredients. Water, Pea Protein*, Refined Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil,
> Natural Flavor, Contains 2% or less of: Rice Protein, Faba Bean
> Protein, Potato Starch, Salt, Fruit Juice (For Color), Vegetable
> Juice (For Color), Apple Fiber, Methylcellulose, Citrus Extract (To
> Protect Quality), Calcium Alginate Casing.
>
> It's still not meat. It won't tempt me to buy it.


I'm hoping they'll get better over time, ingredient-wise. If you don't
eat meat, you don't HAVE to eat faux meat, of course. But the more
options, the better.

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Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On 2 May 2021 08:59:48 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> wrote:
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> > bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> >> A few vegan dishes are great. Like those veggie burgers. They've
> >> really come along quite a bit. Especially when steamed.

> >
> > Sir, I'll have you know that faux meat has been declared illegal by
> > RFC.

>
> Fake meat is illegal at every market in NYC.


Even if it's sold by a schlemiel at a kosher deli?

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