On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Stole this from another group
>>
>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
>
> I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just don't
> buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who choose a vegan
> diet. I have to saw that every once in a while when I am at the corner
> bakery I get one of their vegan peanut butter squares. They are
> incredible. When I went to Georgia with the club a couple years ago the
> group was willing to indulge out vegan member and someone made an
> delicious vegan chili. I cooked some shrimp and someone else cooked
> sausage. The vegan dish was good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a
> meal.

Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
exclusively.

On 5/2/2021 9:13 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Stole this from another group
>>>
>>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
>>
>> Â*I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just don't
>> buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who choose a vegan
>> diet. I have to saw that every once in a while when I am at the corner
>> bakery I get one of their vegan peanut butter squares. They are
>> incredible.Â* When I went to Georgia with the club a couple years ago the
>> group was willing to indulge out vegan member and someone made an
>> delicious vegan chili.Â*Â* I cooked some shrimp and someone else cooked
>> sausage.Â* The vegan dish was good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a
>> meal.
>
> Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
> exclusively.
>
>

Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident. My salad for lunch
me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but there is a good
chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based dressing.

Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but eggs,
butter, ice cream are necessities.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/2/2021 9:13 AM, Gary wrote:
> > On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > Stole this from another group
> > > >
> > > > http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> > >
> > > Â*I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> > > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> > > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
> > > when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
> > > butter squares. They are incredible.Â* When I went to Georgia with
> > > the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
> > > vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili.Â*Â* I
> > > cooked some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage.Â* The vegan
> > > dish was good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
> >
> > Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
> > exclusively.
> >
> >
>
> Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident. My salad for
> lunch me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but there is a
> good chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based dressing.
>
> Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but eggs,
> butter, ice cream are necessities.

Thats ok. Most vegetarians are ok with milk and egg products.

On 2021-05-02 2:19 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2021 9:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> Stole this from another group
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Â*I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
>>>> don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
>>>> choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
>>>> when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
>>>> butter squares. They are incredible.Â* When I went to Georgia with
>>>> the club a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out
>>>> vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan chili.Â*Â* I
>>>> cooked some shrimp and someone else cooked sausage.Â* The vegan
>>>> dish was good, but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
>>>
>>> Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
>>> exclusively.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident. My salad for
>> lunch me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but there is a
>> good chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based dressing.
>>
>> Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but eggs,
>> butter, ice cream are necessities.
>
> Thats ok. Most vegetarians are ok with milk and egg products.
>
I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan "butter".
However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot healthier to eat
real butter.

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-05-02 2:19 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/2/2021 9:13 AM, Gary wrote:
> > > > On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > > Stole this from another group
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> > > > >
> >>>> Â*I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> > > > > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> > > > > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while
> > > > > when I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut
> > > > > butter squares. They are incredible.Â* When I went to Georgia
> > > > > with the club a couple years ago the group was willing to
> > > > > indulge out vegan member and someone made an delicious vegan
> > > > > chili.Â*Â* I cooked some shrimp and someone else cooked
> > > > > sausage.Â* The vegan dish was good, but the shrimp and sausage
> > > > > made it a meal.
> > > >
> > > > Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that
> > > > way exclusively.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident. My salad for
> > > lunch me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but there
> > > is a good chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based
> > > dressing.
> > >
> > > Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but eggs,
> > > butter, ice cream are necessities.
> >
> > Thats ok. Most vegetarians are ok with milk and egg products.
> >
> I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan
> "butter". However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot
> healthier to eat real butter.

But real butter requires a dairy industry. Dairy industry means animal
abuse.

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On 5/2/2021 7:15 PM, Graham wrote:

>>>> Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
>>>> exclusively.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident.Â* My salad for
>>> lunch me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but there is a
>>> good chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based dressing.
>>>
>>> Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but eggs,
>>> butter, ice cream are necessities.
>>
>> Thats ok.Â* Most vegetarians are ok with milk and egg products.
>>
> I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan "butter".
> However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot healthier to eat
> real butter.


Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk (Filtered
Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water, Organic Sunflower
Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/2/2021 7:15 PM, Graham wrote:
>
> > > > > Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat
> > > > > that way exclusively.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident.Â* My salad
> > > > for lunch me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but
> > > > there is a good chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based
> > > > dressing.
> > > >
> > > > Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but
> > > > eggs, butter, ice cream are necessities.
> > >
> > > Thats ok.Â* Most vegetarians are ok with milk and egg products.
> > >
> > I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan
> > "butter". However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot
> > healthier to eat real butter.
>
>
> Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk
> (Filtered Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water, Organic
> Sunflower Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt

That's not bad at all.

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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 8:53:10 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk
> > (Filtered Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water, Organic
> > Sunflower Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt
> >
> That's not bad at all.
>
And that's not butter. It's a spread but not butter in any shape
or form.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/2/2021 7:15 PM, Graham wrote:
>
>>>>> Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that
>>>>> way
>>>>> exclusively.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I've made vegan meals but mostly by accident.Â* My salad for
>>>> lunch me be a nice vegan meal with olive oil dressing, but
>>>> there is a
>>>> good chance I'll screw it up with a sour cream based dressing.
>>>>
>>>> Vegetarian is not that hard, I can pass on a pork chop, but eggs,
>>>> butter, ice cream are necessities.
>>>
>>> Thats ok.Â* Most vegetarians are ok with milk and egg products.
>>>
>> I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan
>> "butter". However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot
>> healthier to eat real butter.
>
>
> Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk
> (Filtered Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water,
> Organic Sunflower Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt

That's not vegan. The sea salt is bound to have residuals of Marine
animals.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/2/2021 7:15 PM, Graham wrote:
>> I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan "butter".
>> However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot healthier to eat
>> real butter.
>
>
> Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk (Filtered
> Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water, Organic Sunflower
> Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt

For the first time in maybe 30-40 years, I bought a 1 lb box of Blue
Bonnet margarine. They call it vegetable spread now.

Would have preferred real butter as always but this was at a convenience
store. One stick of real butter was $1.99. Can you believe that? Then I
spotted the Blue Bonnet...4 sticks for $2.69.

I'll try some on toast today and see what's up with it.

Final review. The vegetable spread is ok but I'll buy real butter from
now on.

Gary wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/2/2021 7:15 PM, Graham wrote:
> > > I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan
> > > "butter". However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot
> > > healthier to eat real butter.
> >
> >
> > Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk
> > (Filtered Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water,
> > Organic Sunflower Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt
>
> For the first time in maybe 30-40 years, I bought a 1 lb box of Blue
> Bonnet margarine. They call it vegetable spread now.
>
> Would have preferred real butter as always but this was at a
> convenience store. One stick of real butter was $1.99. Can you
> believe that? Then I spotted the Blue Bonnet...4 sticks for $2.69.
>
> I'll try some on toast today and see what's up with it.
>
> Final review. The vegetable spread is ok but I'll buy real butter
> from now on.

You big spender you!

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On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:50:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/2/2021 7:15 PM, Graham wrote:
> >> I saw yesterday that my local s/m has started stocking vegan "butter".
> >> However, judging by the contents, it's a helluva lot healthier to eat
> >> real butter.
> >
> >
> > Ingredients: Organic Coconut oil, Organic Cultured Cashew Milk (Filtered
> > Water, Organic Cashews, Cultures), Filtered Water, Organic Sunflower
> > Oil, Organic Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt
> For the first time in maybe 30-40 years, I bought a 1 lb box of Blue
> Bonnet margarine. They call it vegetable spread now.
>
> Would have preferred real butter as always but this was at a convenience
> store. One stick of real butter was $1.99. Can you believe that? Then I
> spotted the Blue Bonnet...4 sticks for $2.69.

I would have paid the $1.99 for a single stick of butter. Margarine
is only fit for basting the outside of a whole roast pig.

OTOH, I have 4 pounds of butter in the freezer. When I use one up,
I buy another. I very, very rarely run out of anything.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary wrote:

> On 4/30/2021 10:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-04-30 10:48 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > Stole this from another group
> > >
> > > http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Vegans.jpg
> >
> > I would not refuse to eat something because it is vegan. I just
> > don't buy into it and I am not prepared to cater to guests who
> > choose a vegan diet. I have to saw that every once in a while when
> > I am at the corner bakery I get one of their vegan peanut butter
> > squares. They are incredible. When I went to Georgia with the club
> > a couple years ago the group was willing to indulge out vegan
> > member and someone made an delicious vegan chili. I cooked some
> > shrimp and someone else cooked sausage. The vegan dish was good,
> > but the shrimp and sausage made it a meal.
>
> Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
> exclusively.

I'd find no eggs the hardest part. I love cheese but I already don't
eat it every week.

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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> Nothing wrong with vegan meals but would be a pain to eat that way
>> exclusively.
>
> I'd find no eggs the hardest part. I love cheese but I already don't
> eat it every week.

Eggs, butter and even cheese seem to be staples for many meals. A couple
of different cheeses really are important too. I just ran out. First on
my grocery list.

I made pasta with garlic oil, broccoli and parmesan cheese yesterday.
It's good but a different melty cheese would have been a good addition
to make it more creamy.