jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
> > American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
> > cooking
> >
> So, why don't you POST about cooking?

You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can tell
you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John Kuthe,
like you do.

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jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/5/2021 7:48 PM, Joy McDonald's wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/5/2021 6:58 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>> j
>>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
>>>>> be a lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
>>>>> I've never heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>>> --* The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>
>>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>>>>
>>> Indeed.* Bruce doesn't cook
>>
>> Jill's an expert on my posts even though she has me killfiled
>>
> I know how to read, dipshit.* I also have a filter set up that will
> plonk you again since you sidestepped by morphing.
>
> Want to have a conversation about cooking?* Start a new thread and
> tell us what you've been cooking.* I'd be willing to read it.
>
>>> , why would he have heard of a well known
>>> cookbook while reading and posting in a cooking newsgroup? LOL
>>
>> I hate to break it to you, Jill, but not everybody's American.
>>
> I hate to break it to you, little morphing McBruce, this is not an
> "American" cooking newsgroup.* You're not familiar not because
> you're not American but because cooking is not why you're here.
>
> Jill

Yep, master doctor is only here to sniff folk's asses.

Joie McD wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
>>> American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
>>> cooking
>>>
>> So, why don't you POST about cooking?
>
> You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can tell
> you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John Kuthe,
> like you do.
>

Kuth loves that shit, and so do yoose master doctor.

On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
>>> American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
>>> cooking
>>>
>> So, why don't you POST about cooking?
>
> You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can tell
> you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John Kuthe,
> like you do.
>
I don't produce the Off topic posts. John Kuthe does.

Stop trying to turn this away from your nymshifting bullshit.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
> > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or
> > > > not, American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of
> > > > world cooking
> > > >
> > > So, why don't you POST about cooking?
> > You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can
> > tell you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing
> > John Kuthe, like you do.
> >
> I don't produce the Off topic posts. John Kuthe does.

Yes, but your replies are just as off topic.

> Stop trying to turn this away from your nymshifting bullshit.

We weren't talking about my "nymshifting bullshit".

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On 06/05/2021 00:49, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would be a
>>> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which I've never
>>> heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>
>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>
> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>
Yes, JoC is an American cookbook, but it's just about as far as one can
get, from 'fast food'. I even learned how to skin rabbits from one of
its earlier editions - definitely 'scratch' cooking! It has excellent
instructions for making real strudel dough - my Austrian Grandma died
before she could teach me how, but JoC's recipe turned out just like hers.
I have a copy of every major edition, from the very first little one, up
to the current big, thick one.

S Viemeister wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 00:49, Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > > If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
> > > > be a lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
> > > > I've never heard of, except here, or seen.
> > > >
> > > What a narrow little world you occupy.
> >
> > Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
> >
> Yes, JoC is an American cookbook, but it's just about as far as one
> can get, from 'fast food'. I even learned how to skin rabbits from
> one of its earlier editions - definitely 'scratch' cooking! It has
> excellent instructions for making real strudel dough - my Austrian
> Grandma died before she could teach me how, but JoC's recipe turned
> out just like hers. I have a copy of every major edition, from the
> very first little one, up to the current big, thick one.

That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan, being
from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's English

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On 06/05/2021 08:38, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> Yes, JoC is an American cookbook, but it's just about as far as one
>> can get, from 'fast food'. I even learned how to skin rabbits from
>> one of its earlier editions - definitely 'scratch' cooking! It has
>> excellent instructions for making real strudel dough - my Austrian
>> Grandma died before she could teach me how, but JoC's recipe turned
>> out just like hers. I have a copy of every major edition, from the
>> very first little one, up to the current big, thick one.
>
> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan, being
> from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's English
>
Your English is better than that of a number of the posters here, and
you have a fairly broad knowledge of the world in general, so I would
not have been surprised if you had heard of JoC.
Delia Smith's books are probably the closest UK equivalent to JoC, and I
believe she is known of in Australia.

On Wed, 5 May 2021 21:26:02 +0100, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 05/05/2021 21:19, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:14:58 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:56:01 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:59:40 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiled to 310F, almost burnt!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it
>>>>>>>>>>> often.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
>>>>>>>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What more details do you need?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the
>>>>>>>>> one making it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe,
>>>>>>>> we need no further details. He especially doesn't need to
>>>>>>>> provide them "often".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> Nor do you have to reply "often".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look very, very closely, you'll see I didn't reply to
>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> You do all the time. You're always trying to show us how stupid
>>>>> John is and how witty you are. Just give it up. People who are
>>>>> not yet convinced never will be.
>>>>> --
>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>> Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and
>>>> expecting a different result. In this case, trying to get people to
>>>> leave Kuthe alone.
>>>>
>>>> It's not going to happen. You might as well give up.
>>>>
>>> Bruce doesn't want Kuthe to leave because then Bruce will go up one
>>> rung on the ****wad list.
>>
>> It's not about Kuthe. It's about group bullying. It's also about people
>> complaining about all the posts by John, when they're constantly
>> enabling him and making him post more.
>>
>> Nevertheless, these people are not as despicable as you.
>>
>
>YES!!!!!

GREAT ORGASM. I drenched me knickers, I did!

On 06/05/2021 09:01, Ophelia wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 21:26:02 +0100, Ophelia >
> wrote:
>
>> On 05/05/2021 21:19, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:14:58 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:56:01 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:59:40 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiled to 310F, almost burnt!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it
>>>>>>>>>>>> often.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
>>>>>>>>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What more details do you need?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the
>>>>>>>>>> one making it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe,
>>>>>>>>> we need no further details. He especially doesn't need to
>>>>>>>>> provide them "often".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>> Nor do you have to reply "often".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look very, very closely, you'll see I didn't reply to
>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> You do all the time. You're always trying to show us how stupid
>>>>>> John is and how witty you are. Just give it up. People who are
>>>>>> not yet convinced never will be.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>> Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and
>>>>> expecting a different result. In this case, trying to get people to
>>>>> leave Kuthe alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not going to happen. You might as well give up.
>>>>>
>>>> Bruce doesn't want Kuthe to leave because then Bruce will go up one
>>>> rung on the ****wad list.
>>>
>>> It's not about Kuthe. It's about group bullying. It's also about people
>>> complaining about all the posts by John, when they're constantly
>>> enabling him and making him post more.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, these people are not as despicable as you.
>>>
>>
>> YES!!!!!
>
> GREAT ORGASM. I drenched me knickers, I did!

===

I didn't write that!

On 5/6/2021 5:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 06/05/2021 09:01, Ophelia wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 21:26:02 +0100, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/05/2021 21:19, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:14:58 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:56:01 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:59:40 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiled to 310F, almost burnt!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> often.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What more details do you need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the
>>>>>>>>>>> one making it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe,
>>>>>>>>>> we need no further details. He especially doesn't need to
>>>>>>>>>> provide them "often".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>> Nor do you have to reply "often".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you look very, very closely, you'll see I didn't reply to
>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> You do all the time. You're always trying to show us how stupid
>>>>>>> John is and how witty you are. Just give it up. People who are
>>>>>>> not yet convinced never will be.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>> Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and
>>>>>> expecting a different result. In this case, trying to get people to
>>>>>> leave Kuthe alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not going to happen. You might as well give up.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce doesn't want Kuthe to leave because then Bruce will go up one
>>>>> rung on the ****wad list.
>>>> It's not about Kuthe. It's about group bullying. It's also about people
>>>> complaining about all the posts by John, when they're constantly
>>>> enabling him and making him post more.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, these people are not as despicable as you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> YES!!!!!
>>
>> GREAT ORGASM. I drenched me knickers, I did!
>
> ===
>
> I didn't write that!
>
>
LOL

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:36:28 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 5/5/2021 6:58 PM, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >> j
> >> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would be a
> >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which I've never
> >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> >> --
> >> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> >>
> > What a narrow little world you occupy.
> >
> Indeed. Bruce doesn't cook, why would he have heard of a well known
> cookbook while reading and posting in a cooking newsgroup? LOL
>
> I don't recall John ever posting the recipe. He shouts about BUTTER and
> CREAM and chocolate (then uses fake chocolate, ugh) and "better than
> Heath Bars!".
>

John doesn't use fake chocolate in the sense that it's artificially flavored.

Real chocolate uses cocoa butter as its fat, the melting point of which
is so low that the coating would melt too soon after putting it in your
mouth, resulting in a naked piece of toffee.

A coating chocolate compound is flavored with real cocoa powder, but
its fat is something with a higher melting point.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >> j
> >> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would be a
> >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which I've never
> >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> >> --
> >> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> >>
> >What a narrow little world you occupy.
> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?

The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a general-purpose
cookbook that contains recipes for everything from appetizers to dessert.

The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.

I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's Complete
Cookery Course".

But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow in ignorance
and slag Americans.

Cindy Hamilton

S Viemeister wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 08:38, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > S Viemeister wrote:
> > > Yes, JoC is an American cookbook, but it's just about as far as
> > > one can get, from 'fast food'. I even learned how to skin rabbits
> > > from one of its earlier editions - definitely 'scratch' cooking!
> > > It has excellent instructions for making real strudel dough - my
> > > Austrian Grandma died before she could teach me how, but JoC's
> > > recipe turned out just like hers. I have a copy of every major
> > > edition, from the very first little one, up to the current big,
> > > thick one.
> >
> > That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
> > American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan,
> > being from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's
> > English
> >
> Your English is better than that of a number of the posters here, and
> you have a fairly broad knowledge of the world in general, so I would
> not have been surprised if you had heard of JoC. Delia Smith's books
> are probably the closest UK equivalent to JoC, and I believe she is
> known of in Australia.

Thanks. I think maybe 0.1% of Dutch people have heard of Joy of
Cooking. A bit more will have heard of Delia Smith, me included, and
35% or so will have heard of Jamie Oliver. Smith and Oliver are
probably fairly well known in Australia, depending on age.

I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my main
interest in cooking. I may have cooked potatoes 5 times in my life or
so. JoC wouldn't have been my cup of tea, if I had known it existed.

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On 06/05/2021 12:53, Joie McDonalds wrote:

> I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my main
> interest in cooking. I may have cooked potatoes 5 times in my life or
> so. JoC wouldn't have been my cup of tea, if I had known it existed.
>
Do you have any suggestions for an English-language cookbook on
Indonesian cooking? I fell in love with it many years ago, when I spent
time in Amsterdam. I used to be able to stumble my way through written
Dutch, due to knowledge of Scots and German, but I doubt I'd manage that
now.

(our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan, being
> from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's English

I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English *very* well. Not odd english
that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
American born fellow.

Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a "wall
of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook. Lots of good
recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit boring to read at
night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished dishes.

I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least some
of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.

My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of pictures,
cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely falling apart
from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After that will be
Googling for various ingredient lists.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > >> j
> > >> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
> > be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
> > I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> > >> --
> > >> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> > >>
> > > What a narrow little world you occupy.
> > Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>
> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
> appetizers to dessert.
>
> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
> cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
>
> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
> Complete Cookery Course".
>
> But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow in
> ignorance and slag Americans.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book that
is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because the UK
was just across the water. I know Julia Child even better and have seen
more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection with
France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means nothing to
me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?

I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny Gerungan
either.

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On 5/5/2021 9:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
>>>> American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
>>>> cooking
>>>>
>>> So, why don't you POST about cooking?
>> You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can tell
>> you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John Kuthe,
>> like you do.
>>
> I don't produce the Off topic posts. John Kuthe does.
>
> Stop trying to turn this away from your nymshifting bullshit.

Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read his
response. He's not a troll.

Anyway, as stated, I real all posts here. Without offtopic posts this
newsgroup would have died out many years ago like so many others did.

OB Food: Yesterday I cooked some pasta (thin spaghetti) in salted water.
Then I smashed and minced 3 large cloves of garlic.
Browned them in a frying pan with that worthless Pompeiian EVOO, then
tossed in a good amount of bite-sized broccoli.

I combined the two and added 2 slices of mild cheddar cheese to melt and
the last of my dried Parmesan cheese. Salt and pepper for seasoning.

Very tasty meal(s). Had it for lunch, for dinner, and finished it for a
late night snack.

I *will* make this again someday.

On Thu, 6 May 2021 13:00:35 +0100, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 06/05/2021 Joie McDonalds wrote:
>
>> I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my main
>> interest in cooking.
>>
>Do you have any suggestions for an English-language cookbook on
>Indonesian cooking?

No one needs a book for cooking rice with fish heads.

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > >> j
> > > >> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
> > > be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
> > > I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> > > >> --
> > > >> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> > > >>
> > > > What a narrow little world you occupy.
> > > Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
> >
> > The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
> > since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
> > general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
> > appetizers to dessert.
> >
> > The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
> > cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
> >
> > I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
> > Complete Cookery Course".
> >
> > But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow in
> > ignorance and slag Americans.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book that
> is.

From people mentioning it here, you should at least know it's an authoritative
general-purpose cookbook, and not related to fast food in any way.

> The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
> know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because the UK
> was just across the water.

I know Delia Smith because people mention her here on r.f.c.

> I know Julia Child even better and have seen
> more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection with
> France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means nothing to
> me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?

So what, indeed. You show us that you are not really interested in food
and cooking.

> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny Gerungan
> either.

Perhaps you should. When I get some time, I'll investigate them.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:09:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>(our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
>> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan, being
>> from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's English
>
>I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English *very* well. Not odd english
>that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
>American born fellow.
>
>Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a "wall
>of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook. Lots of good
>recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit boring to read at
>night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished dishes.
>
>I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least some
>of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
>
>My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of pictures,
>cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely falling apart
>from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After that will be
>Googling for various ingredient lists.

People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.

On 5/6/2021 8:48 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:09:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> (our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
>>> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan, being
>>> from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's English
>>
>> I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English *very* well. Not odd english
>> that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
>> American born fellow.
>>
>> Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a "wall
>> of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook. Lots of good
>> recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit boring to read at
>> night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished dishes.
>>
>> I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least some
>> of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
>>
>> My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of pictures,
>> cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely falling apart
>>from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After that will be
>> Googling for various ingredient lists.
>
> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>

I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration. I may follow part
of a recipe but adapt to my taste.

On 2021-05-06 10:51 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2021 8:48 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:09:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>
>
> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may follow part
> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.


I follow baking recipes closely, but for most things I figure the recipe
is a guideline. I may cut back on some things, add more of others. Some
things might be substituted. I confess that my results are
inconsistent, but I rarely ruin one. Most of my cooking these days is
winged.

On 5/6/2021 8:14 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 13:00:35 +0100, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/2021 Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>
>>> I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my main
>>> interest in cooking.
>>>
>> Do you have any suggestions for an English-language cookbook on
>> Indonesian cooking?
>
> No one needs a book for cooking rice with fish heads.
>

If your phone gets wet, try putting it in a bag of dry rice, the rice
will attract Asians who will fix your electronics for you.

On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
>>> American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
>>> cooking
>>>
>> So, why don't you POST about cooking?
>
> You don't know what I post about.
>
You only post anti American bullshit, you Aussie sissy.

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 10:03:50 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-06 10:51 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/6/2021 8:48 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:09:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
> >> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
> >> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
> >>
> >
> > I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration. I may follow part
> > of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
> I follow baking recipes closely, but for most things I figure the recipe
> is a guideline. I may cut back on some things, add more of others. Some
> things might be substituted. I confess that my results are
> inconsistent, but I rarely ruin one. Most of my cooking these days is
> winged.
>
All of Dave's food is lousy. He has to choose between death and eating
decent food. Plus, every time he eats his joyless food he's reminded that
even with following the cardiologist's diet that he could easily die any day
anyway, and his last meal will likely be worse than that of a death row
murderer.
>
--Bryan

Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>> j
>>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
>>> be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
>>> I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>>> --
>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>
>>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>>> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>>
>> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
>> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
>> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
>> appetizers to dessert.
>>
>> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
>> cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
>>
>> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
>> Complete Cookery Course".
>>
>> But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow in
>> ignorance and slag Americans.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book that
> is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
> know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because the UK
> was just across the water. I know Julia Child even better and have seen
> more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection with
> France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means nothing to
> me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?
>
> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny Gerungan
> either.
>

Are those folks also master butt sniffers?

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 12:12:37 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >>>>> j
> >>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
> >>> be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
> >>> I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> >>>>>
> >>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
> >>> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
> >>
> >> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
> >> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
> >> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
> >> appetizers to dessert.
> >>
> >> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
> >> cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
> >>
> >> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
> >> Complete Cookery Course".
> >>
> >> But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow in
> >> ignorance and slag Americans.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> > anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book that
> > is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
> > know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because the UK
> > was just across the water. I know Julia Child even better and have seen
> > more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection with
> > France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means nothing to
> > me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?
> >
> > I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny Gerungan
> > either.
> >
> Are those folks also master butt sniffers?
>
Hank, it's bad enough to have to go around with a name like Joop Braakhekke,
without you making unfounded suggestions that he?, she? might be a butt sniffer.
>
--Bryan

On 5/6/2021 8:10 AM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny Gerungan
> either.
>
Those guys are FAGS!

On 06/05/2021 15:51, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2021 8:48 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:

>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>
>
> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may follow part
> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.

+1

On 06/05/2021 13:10, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>> j
>>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
>>> be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
>>> I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>>> --
>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>
>>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>>> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>>
>> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
>> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
>> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
>> appetizers to dessert.
>>
>> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
>> cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
>>
>> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
>> Complete Cookery Course".
>>
>> But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow in
>> ignorance and slag Americans.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book that
> is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
> know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because the UK
> was just across the water. I know Julia Child even better and have seen
> more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection with
> France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means nothing to
> me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?
>
> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny Gerungan
> either.

====

As it happens, I have never seen JoC either and I only know about it
because I have seen it mentioned here!

On 5/5/2021 5:01 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Wed, 05 May 2021 13:28:42 -0700, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>> The list of folks here who have any
>> respect for you is very short.
>
> Maybe we can start a cross-referenced list of those who have been cross
> when they referenced someone else.
>

Respected people would be a pretty short list. The unrespected people
would make a good reality TV show with a long list of characters.

A food related title for the show could be "Assorted Nuts"

Ophelia wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 13:10, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > j
> > > > > > If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions
> > > > > > would
> >>>be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
> >>>I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> > > > > > -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
> > > > > > individual.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > What a narrow little world you occupy.
> > > > Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
> > >
> > > The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
> > > since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
> > > general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
> > > appetizers to dessert.
> > >
> > > The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the
> > > one cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
> > >
> > > I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
> > > Complete Cookery Course".
> > >
> > > But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow
> > > in ignorance and slag Americans.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> > anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book
> > that is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand
> > that. I know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why?
> > Because the UK was just across the water. I know Julia Child even
> > better and have seen more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because
> > of her connection with France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom.
> > But JoC means nothing to me, even though I've seen it mentioned a
> > few times in RFC. So what?
> >
> > I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
> > Gerungan either.
>
> ====
>
> As it happens, I have never seen JoC either and I only know about it
> because I have seen it mentioned here!

Well, there you go. I'm not the only one.

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S Viemeister wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 12:53, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>
> > I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my main
> > interest in cooking. I may have cooked potatoes 5 times in my life
> > or so. JoC wouldn't have been my cup of tea, if I had known it
> > existed.
> >
> Do you have any suggestions for an English-language cookbook on
> Indonesian cooking? I fell in love with it many years ago, when I
> spent time in Amsterdam. I used to be able to stumble my way through
> written Dutch, due to knowledge of Scots and German, but I doubt I'd
> manage that now.

I don't know any English books. I used to have my mother's recipes and
sometimes use(d) this site:
<https://tantelenny.com/>. But that's only in Dutch, I'm afraid.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:

> > I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> > anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book
> > that is.
>
> From people mentioning it here, you should at least know it's an
> authoritative general-purpose cookbook, and not related to fast food
> in any way.
>
> > The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
> > know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because the
> > UK was just across the water.
>
> I know Delia Smith because people mention her here on r.f.c.
>
> > I know Julia Child even better and have seen
> > more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection
> > with France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means
> > nothing to me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in
> > RFC. So what?
>
> So what, indeed. You show us that you are not really interested in
> food and cooking.
>
> > I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
> > Gerungan either.
>
> Perhaps you should. When I get some time, I'll investigate them.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Really, get over your Joy of Cooking. I'm sure it's a good cookbook for
domestic American use. Other countries have their own sources. American
cuisine isn't very important. The only big American food influence is
fast food.

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Gary wrote:

> (our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
> > American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan,
> > being from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's
> > English
>
> I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English very well. Not odd english
> that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
> American born fellow.

Thanks. Living in Australia has helped.

> Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a
> "wall of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook.
> Lots of good recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit
> boring to read at night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished
> dishes.
>
> I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least
> some of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
>
> My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of
> pictures, cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely
> falling apart from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After
> that will be Googling for various ingredient lists.

I don't think cookbooks are as important anymore. There's so much
information on the Internet now. You just have to figure out which
sources are reliable or else tweak a recipe/method you're following.

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Gary wrote:

> On 5/5/2021 9:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
> > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or
> > > > > not, American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of
> > > > > world cooking
> > > > >
> > > > So, why don't you POST about cooking?
> >> You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I
> can tell
> > > you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John
> > > Kuthe, like you do.
> > >
> > I don't produce the Off topic posts. John Kuthe does.
> >
> > Stop trying to turn this away from your nymshifting bullshit.
>
> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read
> his response. He's not a troll.

That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start talking
about me or to me, I'll nymshift, otherwise I can't say anything back.
But I've never used anybody else's name. My current name sounds a bit
feminine, but otherwise I like it.

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On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
>>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>
>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.* I may follow part
>> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>
>+1

I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
cooks?

On 5/6/2021 3:11 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> American cuisine isn't very important.
>
Is that why you troll this mostly American food group, Aussie ****wit?

Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> >>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
> >>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
> >>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
> >>
> >> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.* I may
> follow part >> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
> >
> > +1
>
> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> cooks?

What adaptations do you make when you cook rice with fish heads?

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