On 06/05/2021 20:02, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/2021 13:10, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> j
>>>>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions
>>>>>>> would
>>>>> be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
>>>>> I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
>>>>>>> individual.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>>>>> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>>>>
>>>> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
>>>> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
>>>> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
>>>> appetizers to dessert.
>>>>
>>>> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the
>>>> one cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
>>>> Complete Cookery Course".
>>>>
>>>> But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to wallow
>>>> in ignorance and slag Americans.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
>>> anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book
>>> that is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand
>>> that. I know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why?
>>> Because the UK was just across the water. I know Julia Child even
>>> better and have seen more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because
>>> of her connection with France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom.
>>> But JoC means nothing to me, even though I've seen it mentioned a
>>> few times in RFC. So what?
>>>
>>> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
>>> Gerungan either.
>>
>> ====
>>
>> As it happens, I have never seen JoC either and I only know about it
>> because I have seen it mentioned here!
>
> Well, there you go. I'm not the only one.

===

Possibly because we are not American?

On 06/05/2021 20:17, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> (our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
>>> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan,
>>> being from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's
>>> English
>>
>> I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English very well. Not odd english
>> that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
>> American born fellow.
>
> Thanks. Living in Australia has helped.
>
>> Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a
>> "wall of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook.
>> Lots of good recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit
>> boring to read at night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished
>> dishes.
>>
>> I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least
>> some of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
>>
>> My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of
>> pictures, cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely
>> falling apart from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After
>> that will be Googling for various ingredient lists.
>
> I don't think cookbooks are as important anymore. There's so much
> information on the Internet now. You just have to figure out which
> sources are reliable or else tweak a recipe/method you're following.
>

=====

True! I have a big bookcase of cook books but I rarely read them. I
usually look on my computer!!

On 5/6/2021 3:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 06/05/2021 20:17, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> (our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
>>>> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan,
>>>> being from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's
>>>> English
>>>
>>> I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English very well. Not odd english
>>> that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
>>> American born fellow.
>>
>> Thanks. Living in Australia has helped.
>>
>>> Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a
>>> "wall of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook.
>>> Lots of good recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit
>>> boring to read at night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished
>>> dishes.
>>>
>>> I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least
>>> some of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
>>>
>>> My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of
>>> pictures, cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely
>>> falling apart from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After
>>> that will be Googling for various ingredient lists.
>>
>> I don't think cookbooks are as important anymore. There's so much
>> information on the Internet now. You just have to figure out which
>> sources are reliable or else tweak a recipe/method you're following.
>>
>
> =====
>
> Â* True!Â* I have a big bookcase of cook books but I rarely read them.Â* I
> usually look on my computer!!
>
You could always email Dave again.

Ophelia wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 20:02, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/05/2021 13:10, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT),
> > > > > > "
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > j
> > > > > > > > If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's
> > > > > > > > instructions would
> >>>>>be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
> >>>>>I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
> > > > > > > > -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
> > > > > > > > individual.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What a narrow little world you occupy.
> > > > > > Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in
> > > > > print since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food. It is a
> > > > > general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything
> > > > > from appetizers to dessert.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as
> > > > > the one cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any
> > > > > other.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia
> > > > > Smith's Complete Cookery Course".
> > > > >
> > > > > But you don't care about any of that. You would prefer to
> > > > > wallow in ignorance and slag Americans.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to
> > > > know anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a
> > > > cook book that is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to
> > > > understand that. I know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows
> > > > by her. Why? Because the UK was just across the water. I know
> > > > Julia Child even better and have seen more of her, both b/w and
> > > > modern. Why? Because of her connection with France. And my
> > > > favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means nothing to me,
> > > > even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?
> > > >
> > > > I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
> > > > Gerungan either.
> > >
> > > ====
> > >
> > > As it happens, I have never seen JoC either and I only know about
> > > it because I have seen it mentioned here!
> >
> > Well, there you go. I'm not the only one.
>
> ===
>
> Possibly because we are not American?

Yes, definitely.

--
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Ophelia wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 20:17, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > (our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
> > > > American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan,
> > > > being from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's
> > > > English
> > >
> > > I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English very well. Not odd
> > > english that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write
> > > just like an American born fellow.
> >
> > Thanks. Living in Australia has helped.
> >
> > > Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a
> > > "wall of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook.
> > > Lots of good recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit
> > > boring to read at night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished
> > > dishes.
> > >
> > > I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least
> > > some of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
> > >
> > > My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of
> > > pictures, cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is
> > > definitely falling apart from overuse but it's still my "go to"
> > > cookbook. After that will be Googling for various ingredient
> > > lists.
> >
> > I don't think cookbooks are as important anymore. There's so much
> > information on the Internet now. You just have to figure out which
> > sources are reliable or else tweak a recipe/method you're following.
> >
>
> =====
>
> True! I have a big bookcase of cook books but I rarely read them.
> I usually look on my computer!!

Me too. Want to cook a Laotian fish dish? No problem. Try that in the
80s.

--
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On 06/05/2021 20:06, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/2021 12:53, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>
>>> I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my main
>>> interest in cooking. I may have cooked potatoes 5 times in my life
>>> or so. JoC wouldn't have been my cup of tea, if I had known it
>>> existed.
>>>
>> Do you have any suggestions for an English-language cookbook on
>> Indonesian cooking? I fell in love with it many years ago, when I
>> spent time in Amsterdam. I used to be able to stumble my way through
>> written Dutch, due to knowledge of Scots and German, but I doubt I'd
>> manage that now.
>
> I don't know any English books. I used to have my mother's recipes and
> sometimes use(d) this site:
> <https://tantelenny.com/>. But that's only in Dutch, I'm afraid.
>
I may try to see if I can make sense of that - but I fear my language
skills have deteriorated through lack of use.

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 10:03:50 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I follow baking recipes closely, but for most things I figure the recipe
> is a guideline. I may cut back on some things, add more of others. Some
> things might be substituted. I confess that my results are
> inconsistent, but I rarely ruin one. Most of my cooking these days is
> winged.
>
I'll follow a brand spanking new recipe to the letter the first time I make it.
If it's too much of one thing or lacking in another, the next time I make that
dish I'll alter those ingredients to suit my taste buds.

On Thu, 06 May 2021 14:45:21 -0400, Heywood wrote:

> A food related title for the show could be "Assorted Nuts"

I've explained this before, but nobody believes me. Basically, the whole
world has gone nuts. What we consider normal now would have a year or so
ago seemed downright bizarre.


My latest escape from madness is to create a perfect citrus-pepper mix. I
intend to us a cheap IKEA hand-grinder. I have been hand mini-dicing
turmeric and ginger so that after dehydrating in my forced-air oven the
pieces will be roughly the same size as the peppercorns & other seeds in
the mix.

The black garlic was a story in itself how not to burn it, because it's
black already and you need to heat it enough to darken it if it were not
black already, but not hot enough to blacken it because you cannot tell -
it's black already.

In the same store, I found a delightful plant to add a touch of salt
along with a pleasing fresh green plant fragrance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicornia

On 5/6/2021 3:33 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>>>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>>>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>>>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>>
>>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may follow part
>>> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>>
>> +1
>
> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> cooks?
>

Not if you follow the recipe to the letter. Many people do without
question.

On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:14:48 +0100, Ophelia >
wrote:

>On 06/05/2021 09:01, Ophelia wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 21:26:02 +0100, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/05/2021 21:19, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:14:58 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:56:01 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:59:40 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiled to 310F, almost burnt!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> often.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What more details do you need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the
>>>>>>>>>>> one making it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe,
>>>>>>>>>> we need no further details. He especially doesn't need to
>>>>>>>>>> provide them "often".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>> Nor do you have to reply "often".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you look very, very closely, you'll see I didn't reply to
>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> You do all the time. You're always trying to show us how stupid
>>>>>>> John is and how witty you are. Just give it up. People who are
>>>>>>> not yet convinced never will be.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>> Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and
>>>>>> expecting a different result. In this case, trying to get people to
>>>>>> leave Kuthe alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not going to happen. You might as well give up.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce doesn't want Kuthe to leave because then Bruce will go up one
>>>>> rung on the ****wad list.
>>>>
>>>> It's not about Kuthe. It's about group bullying. It's also about people
>>>> complaining about all the posts by John, when they're constantly
>>>> enabling him and making him post more.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, these people are not as despicable as you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> YES!!!!!
>>
>> GREAT ORGASM. I drenched me knickers, I did!
>
>===
>
>I didn't write that!

Clever. You can post whatever you like then pretend you didnt. Sneaky
but clever!

S Viemeister wrote:

> On 06/05/2021 20:06, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > S Viemeister wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/05/2021 12:53, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was raised largely on Indonesian food and that was always my
> > > > main interest in cooking. I may have cooked potatoes 5 times in
> > > > my life or so. JoC wouldn't have been my cup of tea, if I had
> > > > known it existed.
> > > >
> > > Do you have any suggestions for an English-language cookbook on
> > > Indonesian cooking? I fell in love with it many years ago, when I
> > > spent time in Amsterdam. I used to be able to stumble my way
> > > through written Dutch, due to knowledge of Scots and German, but
> > > I doubt I'd manage that now.
> >
> > I don't know any English books. I used to have my mother's recipes
> > and sometimes use(d) this site:
> > <https://tantelenny.com/>. But that's only in Dutch, I'm afraid.
> >
> I may try to see if I can make sense of that - but I fear my language
> skills have deteriorated through lack of use.

There must be sites in English of course, but I don't know which ones
are worth recommending.

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Ophelia wrote:
> On 06/05/2021 13:10, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> j
>>>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
>>>> be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
>>>> I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>
>>>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>>>> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>>>
>>> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
>>> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food.* It is a
>>> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
>>> appetizers to dessert.
>>>
>>> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
>>> cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
>>>
>>> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
>>> Complete Cookery Course".
>>>
>>> But you don't care about any of that.* You would prefer to
>>> wallow in
>>> ignorance and slag Americans.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
>> anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book
>> that
>> is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
>> know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because
>> the UK
>> was just across the water. I know Julia Child even better and
>> have seen
>> more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection
>> with
>> France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means
>> nothing to
>> me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?
>>
>> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
>> Gerungan
>> either.
>
> ====
>
> *As it happens, I have never seen JoC either and I only know about
> it because I have seen it mentioned here!
>

I bet Himself doesn't even know about it!

On 5/6/2021 10:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2021 8:48 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:09:48 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> (our own Real Bruce) Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>> That sounds good, but not being American, why would I go for an
>>>> American cookbook? English isn't even my native language. Joan, being
>>>> from a narrow little world, probably thinks everybody's English
>>>
>>> I'll say this, Bruce... You speak English *very* well. Not odd english
>>> that many have when it's a "2nd language. You do write just like an
>>> American born fellow.
>>>
>>> Speaking of cookbooks, the Joy of Cooking is a good one but it's a "wall
>>> of text" cookbook. Same with the "New York Times" cookbook. Lots of good
>>> recipes but no pictures. Good for reference but a bit boring to read at
>>> night. Sue me...I like to see pics of finished dishes.
>>>
>>> I've always preferred cookbooks that include pictures of at least some
>>> of the meals. Spot a nice pic then look at the recipe.
>>>
>>> My all time favorite cookbook was the old Betty one. Lots of pictures,
>>> cooking tips and many good recipes. My copy is definitely falling apart
>>> from overuse but it's still my "go to" cookbook. After that will be
>>> Googling for various ingredient lists.
>>
>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>
>
> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may follow part
> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.

Yep, I use cookbooks to get ideas.

Jill

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 4:40:07 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:14:48 +0100, Ophelia >
> wrote:
>
> >On 06/05/2021 09:01, Ophelia wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 May 2021 21:26:02 +0100, Ophelia >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 05/05/2021 21:19, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:14:58 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:56:01 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:59:40 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuthe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiled to 310F, almost burnt!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> often.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What more details do you need?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the
> >>>>>>>>>>> one making it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe,
> >>>>>>>>>> we need no further details. He especially doesn't need to
> >>>>>>>>>> provide them "often".
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>>>>> Nor do you have to reply "often".
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If you look very, very closely, you'll see I didn't reply to
> >>>>>>>> John.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>>> You do all the time. You're always trying to show us how stupid
> >>>>>>> John is and how witty you are. Just give it up. People who are
> >>>>>>> not yet convinced never will be.
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> >>>>>> Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and
> >>>>>> expecting a different result. In this case, trying to get people to
> >>>>>> leave Kuthe alone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's not going to happen. You might as well give up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Bruce doesn't want Kuthe to leave because then Bruce will go up one
> >>>>> rung on the ****wad list.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not about Kuthe. It's about group bullying. It's also about people
> >>>> complaining about all the posts by John, when they're constantly
> >>>> enabling him and making him post more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nevertheless, these people are not as despicable as you.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> YES!!!!!
> >>
> >> GREAT ORGASM. I drenched me knickers, I did!
> >
> >===
> >
> >I didn't write that!
>
> Clever. You can post whatever you like then pretend you didnt. Sneaky
> but clever!

I assume we're all guilty of that. Right?

Ophelia wrote:
> On 06/05/2021 13:10, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> j
>>>>>> If I wanted to make toffee, quod non, John's instructions would
>>>> be a >> lot easier to find than a Joy of Cooking cookbook, which
>>>> I've never >> heard of, except here, or seen.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>
>>>>> What a narrow little world you occupy.
>>>> Because I don't know a cookbook from fast food heaven USA?
>>>
>>> The Joy of Cooking is a respected cookbook that has been in print
>>> since 1936, preceding the advent of fast food.* It is a
>>> general-purpose cookbook that contains recipes for everything from
>>> appetizers to dessert.
>>>
>>> The Joy is mentioned fairly frequently by posters on RFC as the one
>>> cookbook they would have, if they couldn't have any other.
>>>
>>> I suppose it is analogous to the British cookbook "Delia Smith's
>>> Complete Cookery Course".
>>>
>>> But you don't care about any of that.* You would prefer to
>>> wallow in
>>> ignorance and slag Americans.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
>> anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book
>> that
>> is. The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
>> know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because
>> the UK
>> was just across the water. I know Julia Child even better and
>> have seen
>> more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection
>> with
>> France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means
>> nothing to
>> me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in RFC. So what?
>>
>> I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
>> Gerungan
>> either.
>
> ====
>
> *As it happens, I have never seen JoC either and I only know about
> it because I have seen it mentioned here!
>

I let a good long British fart, so you and himself should smell it
shortly, unless your master doctor (guru) sniffs it up before it
wafts across the pond, old girl.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>>>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>>>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>>>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>>
>>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.* I may follow part
>>> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>>
>> +1
>
> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> cooks?
>

Hell, Popeye ... Yoose the only one that cooks ! We knows dat, sailor.

Now that yoose survived yoose fall, hows about a real raunchy sex
story? We like the stories where yoose ****ed yoose close relatives.

On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read
>> his response. He's not a troll.
>
> That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start talking
> about me or to me, I'll nymshift,


You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising the
idiocy that landed you in those filters.

On 2021-05-06 3:33 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:

>>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may follow part
>>> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>>
>> +1
>
> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> cooks?

No. There are still people who follow recipes to the letter. They may
have done them so many times that they have memorized them, but they
stick to them.

On 5/6/2021 3:33 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>>>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>>>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>>>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>>
>>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may follow part
>>> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>>
>> +1
>
> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> cooks?
>
Sure, but no one is born knowing how to cook or how to adapt a recipe
or what substitutions for certain ingredients might work. Don't have
marjoram? People who haven't done a lot of cooking might not know
oregano can be substituted for marjoram.

Cookbooks provide all sorts of interesting tips like that as well as
provide meal ideas.

Jill

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might
> > > read his response. He's not a troll.
> >
> > That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start
> > talking about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
>
>
> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
> the idiocy that landed you in those filters.

Yup, I can change the name, but it's still me.

--
The real Joie McDonalds posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-06 3:33 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > > > I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.Â* I may
> > > > follow part of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
> > >
> > > +1
> >
> > I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> > cooks?
>
> No. There are still people who follow recipes to the letter. They may
> have done them so many times that they have memorized them, but they
> stick to them.

I know that the French can be very regimented about food. Lots of their
recipes are practically national institutions. No deviations from the
recipe, please. But the results tend to taste great, so...

--
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Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>>>>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>>>>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>>>
>>>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.* I may
>> follow part >> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
>> cooks?
>
> What adaptations do you make when you cook rice with fish heads?
>

Like you, master, he cooks the rice plain. Like yoose, he sniffs
each fish's ass before he chops the heads.

Sometimes, he calls kuth to perform more enhancements of the fish's
sex organs, before cooking it. And of course,the crowing.

Then, you hoover over the pot of shit, and stir it as needed, along
with minions like kuth, ofeelya, and other dikheads.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 06/05/2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2021 Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>>>> People who know how to cook don't need a schtinkin' cookbook...
>>>> cookbooks are about cooking like paint by numbers are about art.
>>>> I find cookbooks limit one's imagination.
>>>
>>> I somewhat agree, but they often provide inspiration.* I may follow part
>>> of a recipe but adapt to my taste.
>>
>> +1
>
> I've always adapted ALL cooking to my taste... doesn't everyone who
> cooks?
>

Hell, Popeye, yoose the only person that cooks.

WTF is wrong with you sailor?

Yoose need sex. Did mammy kathy die? Did yoose dik die?

On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:12:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>On 5/5/2021 9:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
>>>>> American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
>>>>> cooking
>>>>>
>>>> So, why don't you POST about cooking?
>>> You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can tell
>>> you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John Kuthe,
>>> like you do.
>>>
>> I don't produce the Off topic posts. John Kuthe does.
>>
>> Stop trying to turn this away from your nymshifting bullshit.
>
>Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read his
>response. He's not a troll.

You are completely deluded. WHAT aspect of trolling does Bruce NOT do
here, daily? Serious question.

On 6 May 2021 21:26:47 GMT, "Joie McDonalds" >
wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> > Gary wrote:
>> >
>> > > Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might
>> > > read his response. He's not a troll.
>> >
>> > That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start
>> > talking about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
>>
>>
>> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
>> the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
>
>Yup, I can change the name, but it's still me.

Yes, to escape killfiles so you can troll some more.

On 5/6/2021 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read
>>> his response. He's not a troll.
>>
I guess Gary just loves "ask them, they're here" responses.

I know he loves ingredients lists.

>> That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start talking
>> about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
>
>
> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising the
> idiocy that landed you in those filters.
>
For now it's fun to let him/her out to play for a bit. Funny how he/she
bitches about those of us who rag on Kuthe, then he/she joins right in.
Gary doesn't seem to recognize the irony.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/6/2021 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > > Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might
> > > > read his response. He's not a troll.
> > >
> I guess Gary just loves "ask them, they're here" responses.
>
> I know he loves ingredients lists.
>
> > > That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start
> > > talking about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
> >
> >
> > You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
> > the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
> >
> For now it's fun to let him/her out to play for a bit. Funny how
> he/she bitches about those of us who rag on Kuthe, then he/she joins
> right in. Gary doesn't seem to recognize the irony.
>
> Jill

I don't rag on John. Please distinguish between me and the troll.

--
The real Joie McDonalds posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/4/2021 7:05 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > YUM!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No surprise you think sugar in lump form is delicious.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
> > > > > > individual.net
> > > > >
> > > > > Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All boiled to 310F,
> > > > > almost burnt!
> > > > >
> > > > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> > > >
> > > > I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
> > > >
> > > Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > He mentions eating it, not details of making it often.
> >
> I realize you've had other things on your mind but if you haven't
> noticed that you've not been paying attention. He posts about making
> so-called English toffee frequently. The posts don't say much. He
> yells a lot about using butter and cream and they taste better than
> 'Heath Bars'. He got the recipe from the Joy of cooking, although at
> first he didn't admit to that. Last month he posted about "enrobing"
> it in fake chocolate. Surely not what JOC intended. He posted he
> almost burned the last batch, but says he likes it that way. Did you
> miss where he said he was going to give away "his" toffee when he
> runs for Mayor? LOLOL You've been missing quite toffee show.
>
> Jill

Jill, I have a life and a job. I don't hang on every message here.
Sorry but I haven't the time for it. It's 8pm and I just answered email
my boss'es boss sent me 15 minutes ago. Thats how it works here.

There are 92 unread messages just now. I will read most of them but
may not read all of them. Please don't get that wrong again like I
half read a message I reply to. I read all of what message was sent to
me or in reply from one of mine. I may not read all the others. I
lack the time for that.

Ophelia wrote:

> On 05/05/2021 11:14, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > YUM!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No surprise you think sugar in lump form is delicious.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
> > > > > > > > individual.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All boiled to 310F,
> > > > > > > almost burnt!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > He mentions eating it, not details of making it often.
> > >
> > > He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
> > > pictures of his filthy kitchen.
> > >
> > > What more details do you need?
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the one making
> > it.
>
> ====
>
> If he enjoys making and eating it ... shrug!

Same feeling here. If he likes it, be glad for him. Just like I am
glad for you that SPAM is something your DH likes a lot!

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/5/2021 7:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > YUM!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No surprise you think sugar in lump form is delicious.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
> > > > > > > > > individual.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All boiled to
> > > > > > > > 310F, almost burnt!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jill
> > > > >
> > > > > He mentions eating it, not details of making it often.
> > > >
> > > > He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
> > > > pictures of his filthy kitchen.
> > > >
> > > > What more details do you need?
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the one
> > > making it.
> >
> > Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe, we
> > need no further details. He especially doesn't need to provide
> > them "often".
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Anyone who wants the details should be able to find a JoC cookbook.
> He doesn't have to provide a step by step how-to. I was genuinely
> surprised she'd forgotten he makes toffee, given how often he crows
> about it.
>
> Jill

Hello, I forgot he makes it. I don't read every message he sends
either.

On 06/05/2021 23:54, Ophelia wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 08:12:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> On 5/5/2021 9:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2021 8:56 PM, Joie McD wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/5/2021 8:24 PM, Joi McDonald's wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We were talking about an American cookbook and, believe it or not,
>>>>>> American cooking is a negligible speck in the ocean of world
>>>>>> cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>> So, why don't you POST about cooking?
>>>> You don't know what I post about. You have me killfiled. But I can tell
>>>> you one thing: I don't produce 90% off topic posts bashing John Kuthe,
>>>> like you do.
>>>>
>>> I don't produce the Off topic posts. John Kuthe does.
>>>
>>> Stop trying to turn this away from your nymshifting bullshit.
>>
>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read his
>> response. He's not a troll.
>
> You are completely deluded. WHAT aspect of trolling does Bruce NOT do
> here, daily? Serious question.
===

I didn't write that!

On 06/05/2021 23:55, Ophelia wrote:
> On 6 May 2021 21:26:47 GMT, "Joie McDonalds" >
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might
>>>>> read his response. He's not a troll.
>>>>
>>>> That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start
>>>> talking about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
>>>
>>>
>>> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
>>> the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
>>
>> Yup, I can change the name, but it's still me.
>
> Yes, to escape killfiles so you can troll some more.

=====

I didn't write that!

On 06/05/2021 22:09, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 4:40:07 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:14:48 +0100, Ophelia >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/05/2021 09:01, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 May 2021 21:26:02 +0100, Ophelia >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/05/2021 21:19, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:14:58 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:56:01 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:59:40 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:14:41 AM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boiled to 310F, almost burnt!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What more details do you need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one making it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing wrong with it. Since he's said it's the JoC recipe,
>>>>>>>>>>>> we need no further details. He especially doesn't need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide them "often".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>> Nor do you have to reply "often".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you look very, very closely, you'll see I didn't reply to
>>>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>> You do all the time. You're always trying to show us how stupid
>>>>>>>>> John is and how witty you are. Just give it up. People who are
>>>>>>>>> not yet convinced never will be.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
>>>>>>>> Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and
>>>>>>>> expecting a different result. In this case, trying to get people to
>>>>>>>> leave Kuthe alone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not going to happen. You might as well give up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce doesn't want Kuthe to leave because then Bruce will go up one
>>>>>>> rung on the ****wad list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not about Kuthe. It's about group bullying. It's also about people
>>>>>> complaining about all the posts by John, when they're constantly
>>>>>> enabling him and making him post more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nevertheless, these people are not as despicable as you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> YES!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> GREAT ORGASM. I drenched me knickers, I did!
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I didn't write that!
>>
>> Clever. You can post whatever you like then pretend you didnt. Sneaky
>> but clever!
>
> I assume we're all guilty of that. Right?


=====

Possibly but not me!!!

On 07/05/2021 01:13, cshenk wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> On 05/05/2021 11:14, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:05:21 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/3/2021 9:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:58:20 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No surprise you think sugar in lump form is delicious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de -
>>>>>>>>> individual.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not just sugar. Butter and Cream too! All boiled to 310F,
>>>>>>>> almost burnt!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd forgotten you make toffee. Bet it's good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. He yells about it several times a month.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> He mentions eating it, not details of making it often.
>>>>
>>>> He uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. Sometimes he posts
>>>> pictures of his filthy kitchen.
>>>>
>>>> What more details do you need?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> What's wrong with using a proven recipe? He's still the one making
>>> it.
>>
>> ====
>>
>> If he enjoys making and eating it ... shrug!
>
> Same feeling here. If he likes it, be glad for him. Just like I am
> glad for you that SPAM is something your DH likes a lot!

====

Thank you)

On 5/7/2021 7:45 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> On 06/05/2021 23:55, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 6 May 2021 21:26:47 GMT, "Joie McDonalds" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might
>>>>>> read his response. He's not a troll.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start
>>>>> talking about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
>>>> the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
>>>
>>> Yup, I can change the name, but it's still me.
>>
>> Yes, to escape killfiles so you can troll some more.
>
> =====
>
> I didn't write that!
>
>
No one said you did. It's your pal Bruce who is writing as Joie McDonalds.

Jill

On 5/6/2021 7:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/6/2021 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read
>>>> his response. He's not a troll.
>>>
> I guess Gary just loves "ask them, they're here" responses.
>
> I know he loves ingredients lists.
>
>>> That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start talking
>>> about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
>>
>>
>> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
>> the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
>>
> For now it's fun to let him/her out to play for a bit. Funny how he/she
> bitches about those of us who rag on Kuthe, then he/she joins right in.
> Gary doesn't seem to recognize the irony.

Sounds like you, Jill, don't recognize the fake Bruces.
One real one and 3-4 fake ones now. It can get confusing these days.

Gary wrote:

> On 5/6/2021 7:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/6/2021 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you
> > > > > might read his response. He's not a troll.
> > > >
> > I guess Gary just loves "ask them, they're here" responses.
> >
> > I know he loves ingredients lists.
> >
> > > > That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start
> > > > talking about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
> > >
> > >
> > > You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty
> > > disguising the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
> > >
> > For now it's fun to let him/her out to play for a bit. Funny how
> > he/she bitches about those of us who rag on Kuthe, then he/she
> > joins right in. Gary doesn't seem to recognize the irony.
>
> Sounds like you, Jill, don't recognize the fake Bruces.
> One real one and 3-4 fake ones now. It can get confusing these days.
>

Yes. If people killfile me, that's up to them, but do it for what I
say, not for what some mental patient says under my name

--
The real Joie McDonalds posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 5:55:44 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 5/6/2021 7:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/6/2021 5:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2021-05-06 3:24 p.m., Joie McDonalds wrote:
> >>> Gary wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Real Bruce only nymshifts when you talk about him so you might read
> >>>> his response. He's not a troll.
> >>>
> > I guess Gary just loves "ask them, they're here" responses.
> >
> > I know he loves ingredients lists.
> >
> >>> That's it. When people who I know/think have me killfiled start talking
> >>> about me or to me, I'll nymshift,
> >>
> >>
> >> You can change the name, but you seem to have difficulty disguising
> >> the idiocy that landed you in those filters.
> >>
> > For now it's fun to let him/her out to play for a bit. Funny how he/she
> > bitches about those of us who rag on Kuthe, then he/she joins right in.
> > Gary doesn't seem to recognize the irony.
> Sounds like you, Jill, don't recognize the fake Bruces.
> One real one and 3-4 fake ones now. It can get confusing these days.
>
The Usenet version of Brucellosis.
>
--Bryan

On 2021-05-08 6:55 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 5/6/2021 7:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> For now it's fun to let him/her out to play for a bit.Â* Funny how he/she
>> bitches about those of us who rag on Kuthe, then he/she joins right in.
>> Â*Gary doesn't seem to recognize the irony.
>
> Sounds like you, Jill, don't recognize the fake Bruces.
> One real one and 3-4 fake ones now. It can get confusing these days.Â*

They are equally annoying.

Joie McDonalds wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:10:59 AM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>
> > > I don't understand why anyone would expect a Dutch person to know
> > > anything about the Joy of Cooking, no matter how good a cook book
> > > that is.
> >
> > From people mentioning it here, you should at least know it's an
> > authoritative general-purpose cookbook, and not related to fast food
> > in any way.
> >
> > > The world's bigger than your country. Try to understand that. I
> > > know Delia Smith. I've seen a few TV shows by her. Why? Because
> > > the UK was just across the water.
> >
> > I know Delia Smith because people mention her here on r.f.c.
> >
> > > I know Julia Child even better and have seen
> > > more of her, both b/w and modern. Why? Because of her connection
> > > with France. And my favourite TV chef is Ken Hom. But JoC means
> > > nothing to me, even though I've seen it mentioned a few times in
> > > RFC. So what?
> >
> > So what, indeed. You show us that you are not really interested in
> > food and cooking.
> >
> > > I don't expect you to know Wina Born, Joop Braakhekke or Lonny
> > > Gerungan either.
> >
> > Perhaps you should. When I get some time, I'll investigate them.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Really, get over your Joy of Cooking. I'm sure it's a good cookbook
> for domestic American use. Other countries have their own sources.
> American cuisine isn't very important. The only big American food
> influence is fast food.

I agree, 'get over' JoC. It's a decent resource for things and not as
'Ameriana' as you might think but thats ok.

You are wrong though if you think American cuisine is just fast food.
Thats actually a minimal thing for most of us.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/15931/hoppin-john/

That's a really simple version of it. Most of us spice it up quite a
bit. If you find it in Europe, it's because they are doing American
cooking.

We are not the only place to do fusion cooking, but we show some
fantastic results just like Hawaii (part of America but unique) and
Australia/New Zealand do. Me, I look forward to Australian recipes
when they get posted due to the unique (to me) fusion with Indonesian.
I mean, imagine boiled mutton meets a bird's eye chili!