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Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-09 4:34 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:38 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Guns don't kill. People do.
>>>>>
>>>>> People with guns can kill more efficiently than people with
>>>>> knives, clubs, or well-aimed rocks.
>>>> Again...it's the certain ppl that are the problem, not guns.
>>>> Homemade shrapnel bombs work even better. Good luck getting rid
>>>> of those various ingredients.
>>>
>>> Little 4-year-old Billy rarely makes a homemade shrapnel bomb and
>>> kills his sister with it.
>>>
>>> Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
>>> to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
>>> too many times.
>>>

>>
>> That is why we have safe storage regulations here. Handguns have to
>> be trigger locked and in a locked case or cabinet and ammunition has
>> to be stored elsewhere. There are almost no carry permits. You can
>> get a permit to carry your handgun from your residence to an approved
>> gun range. Your gun club applies for the permit on your behalf. It
>> is extremely rare for a licensed handgun to be used in a crime.
>>
>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
>> signature is required.

>
> Marxism.
>


Have another whiff, master doctor, and his ass may smell better to you.


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On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:54:22 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:50:29 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:46:14 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If this is what the majority wants, then this is what they should get.
> > > > I'm just glad I live somewhere where the majority wants something else.
> > > >
> > > It would require an amendment to the Constitution. The majority does not
> > > want that amendment.
> > >

> > A slave-catcher militia, being necessary to the security of a slave State...
> > >

> > --Bryan
> >

> You lost me.
>

The Southern States were already concerned with the future of slavery at the
time of the adoption of the Constitution. What was the purpose militias in post
Revolutionary America? Mostly as a force against potential slave insurrections.
The words, €œA well regulated Militia," made the Amendment more palatable to
Northern States, but it was set off by a comma in a funny way. Like the 2/3
Compromise, the 2nd Amendment was a compromise between free and slave
states, while looking to the general population like it had something to do with
national defense.

Like it or not, at the very heart of the founding of the USA was an agreement
that Southern States be allowed to have a system where human beings were
the property of other human beings. They could whip them. They could rape
them. And if they saw the need, they could even kill them. They could, and
*did* do those things, with impunity toward any moral or ethical decency,
and without fear of the law, because the law was on their side. The law said
that slaves were not full persons. They were like animals as far as having any
rights, but they counted as 2/3 of a person for apportionment of seats in the
US House, and for votes in the Electoral College.
>

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On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
> signature is required.
>


To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to go.
Too many stolen guns available.


https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-guns-america/

According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion
dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting
to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen
from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S.
every two minutes.
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On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:34:47 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:38 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > Gary wrote:
> > >> Guns don't kill. People do.
> > >
> > > People with guns can kill more efficiently than people with
> > > knives, clubs, or well-aimed rocks.

> > Again...it's the certain ppl that are the problem, not guns.
> > Homemade shrapnel bombs work even better. Good luck getting rid of those
> > various ingredients.

> Little 4-year-old Billy rarely makes a homemade shrapnel bomb and
> kills his sister with it.
>
> Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> too many times.


You sound like you've been hanging out at too many drinking establishments.
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On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
>> signature is required.
>>

>
> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to go. Too
> many stolen guns available.
>
>
> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-guns-america/
>
>
> Â*According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion
> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting
> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen
> from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S.
> every two minutes.



A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then the
anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns because
criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the more access
criminals will have to them. The former chief of police for Toronto, now
Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of handguns used in
crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to be a crock because
the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with that. Stolen in the US
and smuggled in is not the same as stolen domestically.

Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of them
involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there has been
only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the hands of a
licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only effective
against law abiding people.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> > > and acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> > > spouse's signature is required.
> > >

> >
> > To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> > go. Too many stolen guns available.
> >
> >
> > https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...orts/2017/07/2
> > 5/436533/stolen-guns-america/ Â*According to data from the
> > Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), during the four-year period
> > from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion dollars worth of guns
> > were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting to an estimated
> > 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen from gun
> > stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. every
> > two minutes.

>
>
> A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
> for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
> handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
> be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
> that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
> domestically.


What is in North America stays in North America.

> Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
> has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
> hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
> effective against law abiding people.


I think it's about time the RCMP did something about the FITB.

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On 5/9/2021 10:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
>>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
>>> signature is required.
>>>

>>
>> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to go.
>> Too many stolen guns available.
>>
>>
>> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-guns-america/
>>
>>
>> Â*Â*According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
>> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion
>> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals nationwide,
>> amounting to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns
>> were stolen from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen
>> in the U.S. every two minutes.

>
>
> A lot of those stolenÂ* guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then the
> anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns because
> criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the more access
> criminals will have to them. The former chief of police for Toronto, now
> Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of handguns used in
> crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to be a crock because
> the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with that. Stolen in the US
> and smuggled in is not the same as stolen domestically.
>
> Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of them
> involving young FITBÂ* gang members. In the last 20 years there has been
> only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the hands of a
> licensed owner.Â* Apparently gun control efforts are only effective
> against law abiding people.
>


There are also ghost guns made illegally by individuals or groups.

Criminals don't buy at sporting good stores either.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf
An estimated 287,400 prisoners had possessed a
firearm during their offense. Among these, more than
half (56%) had either stolen it (6%), found it at the
scene of the crime (7%), or obtained it off the street
or from the underground market (43%). Most of
the remainder (25%) had obtained it from a family
member or friend, or as a gift. Seven percent had
purchased it under their own name from a licensed
firearm dealer
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On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:52:05 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:33:48 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 5/6/2021 5:57 PM, Graham wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-05-06 12:58 p.m., Dr Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/6/2021 2:56 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > > > >>>On Thu, 6 May 2021 12:18:50 -0600, Graham >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > CNN
> > > > > > > > Texas moves toward permit-free gun carrying, joining five
> > > > > > > > other states this year.
> > > > > > > > A controversial proposal to allow Texans to carry
> > > > > > > > handguns in public without obtaining a license or
> > > > > > > > training passed the state Senate Wednesday.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With all the recent problems, this is incredible! How do
> > > > > > > everyday, ordinary people feel about it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Robbers and rapists hate it, shoot the scum dead.
> > > > >
> > > > > But they will be carrying too!
> > > >
> > > > The bad guys always carry (if they choose to).
> > > > The gun restrictions don't apply to them. Not ever.
> > > >
> > > > Disney liberals think that gun laws will make the world safer.
> > > > The only people that obey those new laws are the ones that are
> > > > not a threat.
> > > Western countries with stricter gun laws than the US are safer
> > > countries than the US.
> > >

> > That's true, but there's the whole, that ship has sailed, can't put
> > the cat back in the bag thing. This country is what it is. That's
> > one of the bad aspects, but it's not going to change.
> > >
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> > >

> > --Bryan

> If this is what the majority wants, then this is what they should get.
> I'm just glad I live somewhere where the majority wants something else.


Ah, such refreshing naivete.

What do the people with money want? Do they care if the proles gun
each other down in the streets?

Cindy Hamilton


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On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:31:03 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:34:47 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:38 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > >> Guns don't kill. People do.
> > > >
> > > > People with guns can kill more efficiently than people with
> > > > knives, clubs, or well-aimed rocks.
> > > Again...it's the certain ppl that are the problem, not guns.
> > > Homemade shrapnel bombs work even better. Good luck getting rid of those
> > > various ingredients.

> > Little 4-year-old Billy rarely makes a homemade shrapnel bomb and
> > kills his sister with it.
> >
> > Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> > to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> > too many times.

> You sound like you've been hanging out at too many drinking establishments.


Sorry. I was unaware that sarcasm was too sophisticated for your brain.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:52:05 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:33:48 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 5/6/2021 5:57 PM, Graham wrote:
> > > > > > On 2021-05-06 12:58 p.m., Dr Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > > On 5/6/2021 2:56 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > > > > >>>On Thu, 6 May 2021 12:18:50 -0600, Graham
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > CNN
> > > > > > > > > Texas moves toward permit-free gun carrying, joining
> > > > > > > > > five other states this year.
> > > > > > > > > A controversial proposal to allow Texans to carry
> > > > > > > > > handguns in public without obtaining a license or
> > > > > > > > > training passed the state Senate Wednesday.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > With all the recent problems, this is incredible! How
> > > > > > > > do everyday, ordinary people feel about it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robbers and rapists hate it, shoot the scum dead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But they will be carrying too!
> > > > >
> > > > > The bad guys always carry (if they choose to).
> > > > > The gun restrictions don't apply to them. Not ever.
> > > > >
> > > > > Disney liberals think that gun laws will make the world
> > > > > safer. The only people that obey those new laws are the ones
> > > > > that are not a threat.
> > > > Western countries with stricter gun laws than the US are safer
> > > > countries than the US.
> > > >
> > > That's true, but there's the whole, that ship has sailed, can't
> > > put the cat back in the bag thing. This country is what it is.
> > > That's one of the bad aspects, but it's not going to change.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > individual.net
> > > >
> > > --Bryan

> > If this is what the majority wants, then this is what they should
> > get. I'm just glad I live somewhere where the majority wants
> > something else.

>
> Ah, such refreshing naivete.


Thank you, it's one of my fortes.

> What do the people with money want? Do they care if the proles gun
> each other down in the streets?


Of course not. They're just riffraff.

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On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
>>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
>>> signature is required.
>>>

>>
>> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to go. Too
>> many stolen guns available.
>>
>>
>> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-guns-america/
>>
>>
>> *According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
>> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion
>> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting
>> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen
>> from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S.
>> every two minutes.

>
>
>A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then the
>anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns because
>criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the more access
>criminals will have to them. The former chief of police for Toronto, now
>Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of handguns used in
>crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to be a crock because
>the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with that. Stolen in the US
>and smuggled in is not the same as stolen domestically.
>
>Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of them
>involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there has been
>only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the hands of a
>licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only effective
>against law abiding people.


They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
the USA this past weekend.
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Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession

> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> > > >
> >>
> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to

> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> >>
> >>
> >>

> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >>
> >> *According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation

> (FBI), >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half
> a billion >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals
> nationwide, amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3
> Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this
> same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes.
> >
> >
> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
> > domestically.
> >
> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
> > effective against law abiding people.

>
> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
> the USA this past weekend.


Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people will
be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:00:40 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
> >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
> >>> signature is required.
> >>>
> >>
> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to go. Too
> >> many stolen guns available.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-guns-america/
> >>
> >>
> >> According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
> >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion
> >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting
> >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen
> >> from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S.
> >> every two minutes.

> >
> >
> >A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then the
> >anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns because
> >criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the more access
> >criminals will have to them. The former chief of police for Toronto, now
> >Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of handguns used in
> >crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to be a crock because
> >the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with that. Stolen in the US
> >and smuggled in is not the same as stolen domestically.
> >
> >Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of them
> >involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there has been
> >only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the hands of a
> >licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only effective
> >against law abiding people.

> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
> the USA this past weekend.


Just like in Germany, Austria and the Benelux countries in the 1930's. Gun salesmen make their commissions off of selling the people around you guns.


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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:10:19 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:31:03 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:34:47 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:38 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > >> Guns don't kill. People do.
> > > > >
> > > > > People with guns can kill more efficiently than people with
> > > > > knives, clubs, or well-aimed rocks.
> > > > Again...it's the certain ppl that are the problem, not guns.
> > > > Homemade shrapnel bombs work even better. Good luck getting rid of those
> > > > various ingredients.
> > > Little 4-year-old Billy rarely makes a homemade shrapnel bomb and
> > > kills his sister with it.
> > >
> > > Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> > > to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> > > too many times.

> > You sound like you've been hanging out at too many drinking establishments.

> Sorry. I was unaware that sarcasm was too sophisticated for your brain.


I just said what you sounded like. That's all.
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Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
>> to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
>> too many times.
>>

> Gary, are going to just sit there and let her call your wife mouthy?
> What kind of man are you?
> ...Wait...Gary has a wife now?


Been there, done that. Once seems to be enough of that nonsense.
I have dated 3 librarians since then. They tend to have that personality
that I like. I came very close to marrying one but she was a serious
church lady...church 5 days a week. I figured that wouldn't work out.

Maybe I'll take a roadtrip out your way and steal your librarian wife
and ruin all your retirement plans. Then you can move into a cheap room
in John's house and cry your eyes out each day when he serves you a STD
dinner. lol

Just having fun here.






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On Mon, 10 May 2021 09:07:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
>>> to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
>>> too many times.
>>>

>> Gary, are going to just sit there and let her call your wife mouthy?
>> What kind of man are you?
>> ...Wait...Gary has a wife now?

>
>Been there, done that. Once seems to be enough of that nonsense.
>I have dated 3 librarians since then. They tend to have that personality
>that I like. I came very close to marrying one but she was a serious
>church lady...church 5 days a week. I figured that wouldn't work out.
>
>Maybe I'll take a roadtrip out your way and steal your librarian wife
>and ruin all your retirement plans. Then you can move into a cheap room
>in John's house and cry your eyes out each day when he serves you a STD
>dinner. lol
>
>Just having fun here.


My second wife was a Special Librarian... she specialized in
Scientific works... turned out she wasn't so special.

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> My second wife was a Special Librarian... she specialized in
> Scientific works... turned out she wasn't so special.
>

She was smart enough to get the hell away from you.
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On 5/10/2021 4:00 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
>>>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
>>>> signature is required.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to go. Too
>>> many stolen guns available.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-guns-america/
>>>
>>>
>>> Â*According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
>>> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion
>>> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting
>>> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen
>>> from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S.
>>> every two minutes.

>>
>>
>> A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then the
>> anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns because
>> criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the more access
>> criminals will have to them. The former chief of police for Toronto, now
>> Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of handguns used in
>> crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to be a crock because
>> the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with that. Stolen in the US
>> and smuggled in is not the same as stolen domestically.
>>
>> Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of them
>> involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there has been
>> only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the hands of a
>> licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only effective
>> against law abiding people.

>
> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
> the USA this past weekend.
>



drill down. most were probably gang bangers shooting gang bangers, drug
buyers/dealers shooting drug dealers/buyers.



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On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> wrote:

>Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession

>> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
>> spouse's >>> signature is required.
>> > > >
>> >>
>> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to

>> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
>> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >>
>> >> *According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation

>> (FBI), >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half
>> a billion >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals
>> nationwide, amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3
>> Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this
>> same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes.
>> >
>> >
>> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
>> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
>> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
>> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
>> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
>> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
>> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
>> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
>> > domestically.
>> >
>> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
>> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
>> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
>> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
>> > effective against law abiding people.

>>
>> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
>> the USA this past weekend.

>
>Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people will
>be carrying guns. Guns FTW!


Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't wish
to see' comes to mind!
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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> > wrote:
>
> >Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> >> > > >
> >> >>
> >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
> >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >>
> >> >> According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation
> >> (FBI), >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half
> >> a billion >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals
> >> nationwide, amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3
> >> Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this
> >> same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> >> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
> >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
> >> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
> >> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
> >> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
> >> > domestically.
> >> >
> >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
> >> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
> >> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
> >> > effective against law abiding people.
> >>
> >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
> >> the USA this past weekend.

> >
> >Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people will
> >be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

>
> Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't wish
> to see' comes to mind!


You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't affect
us directly, we don't care about it.

Or else we'd have public health care.

Cindy Hamilton
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Gary wrote:

> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> > > to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> > > too many times.
> > >

> > Gary, are going to just sit there and let her call your wife mouthy?
> > What kind of man are you?
> > ...Wait...Gary has a wife now?

>
> Been there, done that. Once seems to be enough of that nonsense.
> I have dated 3 librarians since then. They tend to have that
> personality that I like.


Well, they're not known for using lots of make-up.

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Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> > wrote:
>
> > Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> >> > > >
> >> >>
> >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
> >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >> >> >> *According to data from

> the Federal Bureau of Investigation >> (FBI), >> during the four-year
> period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half >> a billion >> dollars worth
> of guns were stolen from individuals >> nationwide, amounting >> to
> an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 >> Twenty-two thousand guns were
> stolen >> from gun stores during this >> same period.4 A gun is
> stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes. >> >
> >> >
> >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada.

> Then >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all
> hand guns >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns
> there are the >> > more access criminals will have to them. The
> former chief of police >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public
> Safety, claimed the majority of >> > handguns used in crimes had been
> stolen locally. That turned out to >> > be a crock because the RCMP
> who track that stuff didn't agree with >> > that. Stolen in the US
> and smuggled in is not the same as stolen >> > domestically.
> >> >
> >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone

> of >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years
> there >> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned
> handgun in the >> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun
> control efforts are only >> > effective against law abiding people.
> >>
> >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings

> in >> the USA this past weekend.
> >
> > Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people
> > will be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

>
> Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't wish
> to see' comes to mind!


I'm just practicing thinking how pro gun people think. "If I don't have
a gun, only the bad man will have one and I'll be stuffed when he comes
knocking on my door!"

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad
> > > people will be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

> >
> > Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't
> > wish to see' comes to mind!

>
> You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't
> affect us directly, we don't care about it.
>
> Or else we'd have public health care.


You have trouble doing things for the communal good. Suggesting such
things makes half the country go "Marxism!" Not that they know what
Marxism is

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On Mon, 10 May 2021 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
>> >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
>> >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
>> >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
>> >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >>
>> >> >> According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation
>> >> (FBI), >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half
>> >> a billion >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals
>> >> nationwide, amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3
>> >> Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this
>> >> same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
>> >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
>> >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
>> >> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
>> >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
>> >> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
>> >> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
>> >> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
>> >> > domestically.
>> >> >
>> >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
>> >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
>> >> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
>> >> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
>> >> > effective against law abiding people.
>> >>
>> >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
>> >> the USA this past weekend.
>> >
>> >Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people will
>> >be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

>>
>> Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't wish
>> to see' comes to mind!

>
>You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't affect
>us directly, we don't care about it.
>
>Or else we'd have public health care.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


What's the big deal... anyone with the gelt who can reach the counter
can buy a 12 ga., even an eight year old. In a gun fight I'll put my
12 ga. up against your pistol... at best you may wound me, at worst
I'll blow your head off. Any firearms expert will say for personel
protection nothing beats a 12 ga... bad guys break into your home and
hear the sound of a 12 ga. racking they'll shit their pants.
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On Mon, 10 May 2021 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
>> >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
>> >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
>> >> > > >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
>> >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
>> >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >>
>> >> >> According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation
>> >> (FBI), >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half
>> >> a billion >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals
>> >> nationwide, amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3
>> >> Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this
>> >> same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
>> >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
>> >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
>> >> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
>> >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
>> >> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
>> >> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
>> >> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
>> >> > domestically.
>> >> >
>> >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
>> >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
>> >> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
>> >> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
>> >> > effective against law abiding people.
>> >>
>> >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
>> >> the USA this past weekend.
>> >
>> >Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people will
>> >be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

>>
>> Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't wish
>> to see' comes to mind!

>
>You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't affect
>us directly, we don't care about it.
>
>Or else we'd have public health care.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


You need to beat down the insurance companies, then the politicians,
in 1968 when Canada put health care in place, I remember well the
yelling and screaming and threats of almost instant death caused by it
from Blue Cross et al.

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bruce bowser wrote:

> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 2:56:25 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 May 2021 12:18:50 -0600, Graham > wrote:
> >
> > > CNN
> > > Texas moves toward permit-free gun carrying, joining five other
> > > states this year.
> > > A controversial proposal to allow Texans to carry handguns in
> > > public without obtaining a license or training passed the state
> > > Senate Wednesday.

> > With all the recent problems, this is incredible! How do everyday,
> > ordinary people feel about it?

>
> What is an everyday ordinary person even doing in a state like that?
> If you're a kid, you better make a bee line back east. Quick !!!


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Gary wrote:

> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> > > to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> > > too many times.
> > >

> > Gary, are going to just sit there and let her call your wife mouthy?
> > What kind of man are you?
> > ...Wait...Gary has a wife now?

>
> Been there, done that. Once seems to be enough of that nonsense.
> I have dated 3 librarians since then. They tend to have that
> personality that I like. I came very close to marrying one but she
> was a serious church lady...church 5 days a week. I figured that
> wouldn't work out.
>
> Maybe I'll take a roadtrip out your way and steal your librarian wife
> and ruin all your retirement plans. Then you can move into a cheap
> room in John's house and cry your eyes out each day when he serves
> you a STD dinner. lol
>
> Just having fun here.


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Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2021 09:07:55 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> >>> to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> >>> too many times.
> > > >
> >> Gary, are going to just sit there and let her call your wife

> mouthy? >> What kind of man are you?
> >> ...Wait...Gary has a wife now?

> >
> > Been there, done that. Once seems to be enough of that nonsense.
> > I have dated 3 librarians since then. They tend to have that
> > personality that I like. I came very close to marrying one but she
> > was a serious church lady...church 5 days a week. I figured that
> > wouldn't work out.
> >
> > Maybe I'll take a roadtrip out your way and steal your librarian
> > wife and ruin all your retirement plans. Then you can move into a
> > cheap room in John's house and cry your eyes out each day when he
> > serves you a STD dinner. lol
> >
> > Just having fun here.

>
> My second wife was a Special Librarian... she specialized in
> Scientific works... turned out she wasn't so special.


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> On 5/10/2021 10:27 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > My second wife was a Special Librarian... she specialized in
> > Scientific works... turned out she wasn't so special.
> >

> She was smart enough to get the hell away from you.


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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 4:34 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:38 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > Guns don't kill. People do.
> > > >
> > > > People with guns can kill more efficiently than people with
> > > > knives, clubs, or well-aimed rocks.
> > > Again...it's the certain ppl that are the problem, not guns.
> > > Homemade shrapnel bombs work even better. Good luck getting rid
> > > of those various ingredients.

> >
> > Little 4-year-old Billy rarely makes a homemade shrapnel bomb and
> > kills his sister with it.
> >
> > Homemade shrapnel bombs require forethought. A gun is easy
> > to pick up and shoot your mouthy wife with when she nags one
> > too many times.
> >

>
> That is why we have safe storage regulations here. Handguns have to
> be trigger locked and in a locked case or cabinet and ammunition has
> to be stored elsewhere. There are almost no carry permits. You can
> get a permit to carry your handgun from your residence to an approved
> gun range. Your gun club applies for the permit on your behalf. It
> is extremely rare for a licensed handgun to be used in a crime.
>
> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession and
> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The spouse's
> signature is required.


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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> > > and acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> > > spouse's signature is required.
> > >

> >
> > To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> > go. Too many stolen guns available.
> >
> >
> > https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...orts/2017/07/2
> > 5/436533/stolen-guns-america/ Â*According to data from the
> > Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), during the four-year period
> > from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion dollars worth of guns
> > were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting to an estimated
> > 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen from gun
> > stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. every
> > two minutes.

>
>
> A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
> for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
> handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
> be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
> that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
> domestically.
>
> Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
> has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
> hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
> effective against law abiding people.


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Joie MacDonalds wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> > > > and acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> > > > spouse's signature is required.
> > > >
> > >
> > > To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> > > go. Too many stolen guns available.
> > >
> > >
> > >

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...orts/2017/07/2
> > > 5/436533/stolen-guns-america/ Â*According to data from the
> > > Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), during the four-year
> > > period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half a billion dollars worth of
> > > guns were stolen from individuals nationwide, amounting to an
> > > estimated 1.2 million guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen
> > > from gun stores during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the
> > > U.S. every two minutes.

> >
> >
> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
> > domestically.

>
> What is in North America stays in North America.
>
> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
> > effective against law abiding people.

>
> I think it's about time the RCMP did something about the FITB.


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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/9/2021 10:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> > > > and acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> > > > spouse's signature is required.
> > > >
> > >
> > > To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> > > go. Too many stolen guns available.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...eports/2017/07
> > > /25/436533/stolen-guns-america/
> > >
> > >
> > > Â*Â*According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation
> > > (FBI), during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly
> > > half a billion dollars worth of guns were stolen from
> > > individuals nationwide, amounting to an estimated 1.2 million
> > > guns.3 Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen from gun stores
> > > during this same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. every two
> > > minutes.

> >
> >
> > A lot of those stolenÂ* guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of
> > police for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the
> > majority of handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That
> > turned out to be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff
> > didn't agree with that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not
> > the same as stolen domestically.
> >
> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> > them involving young FITBÂ* gang members. In the last 20 years
> > there has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun
> > in the hands of a licensed owner.Â* Apparently gun control efforts
> > are only effective against law abiding people.
> >

>
> There are also ghost guns made illegally by individuals or groups.
>
> Criminals don't buy at sporting good stores either.
>
> https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf
> An estimated 287,400 prisoners had possessed a
> firearm during their offense. Among these, more than
> half (56%) had either stolen it (6%), found it at the
> scene of the crime (7%), or obtained it off the street
> or from the underground market (43%). Most of
> the remainder (25%) had obtained it from a family
> member or friend, or as a gift. Seven percent had
> purchased it under their own name from a licensed
> firearm dealer


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Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession

> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> > > >
> >>
> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to

> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> >>
> >>
> >>

> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >>
> >> *According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation

> (FBI), >> during the four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half
> a billion >> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals
> nationwide, amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3
> Twenty-two thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this
> same period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes.
> >
> >
> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada. Then
> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all hand guns
> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns there are the
> > more access criminals will have to them. The former chief of police
> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public Safety, claimed the majority of
> > handguns used in crimes had been stolen locally. That turned out to
> > be a crock because the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with
> > that. Stolen in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen
> > domestically.
> >
> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone of
> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years there
> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned handgun in the
> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun control efforts are only
> > effective against law abiding people.

>
> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings in
> the USA this past weekend.


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Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> > wrote:
>
> > Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special possession
> >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed regularly. The
> >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> >> > > >
> >> >>
> >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where to
> >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
> >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >> >> >> *According to data from

> the Federal Bureau of Investigation >> (FBI), >> during the four-year
> period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half >> a billion >> dollars worth
> of guns were stolen from individuals >> nationwide, amounting >> to
> an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 >> Twenty-two thousand guns were
> stolen >> from gun stores during this >> same period.4 A gun is
> stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes. >> >
> >> >
> >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada.

> Then >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all
> hand guns >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns
> there are the >> > more access criminals will have to them. The
> former chief of police >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public
> Safety, claimed the majority of >> > handguns used in crimes had been
> stolen locally. That turned out to >> > be a crock because the RCMP
> who track that stuff didn't agree with >> > that. Stolen in the US
> and smuggled in is not the same as stolen >> > domestically.
> >> >
> >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost everyone

> of >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the last 20 years
> there >> > has been only one shooting involving a legally owned
> handgun in the >> > hands of a licensed owner. Apparently gun
> control efforts are only >> > effective against law abiding people.
> >>
> >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass shootings

> in >> the USA this past weekend.
> >
> > Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad people
> > will be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

>
> Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't wish
> to see' comes to mind!


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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special

> > possession >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed
> > regularly. The >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> > >> > > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know where

> > to >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>

> > https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...orts/2017/07/2
> > 5/ >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >> >> >> According to data
> > from the Federal Bureau of Investigation >> (FBI), >> during the
> > four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half >> a billion >>
> > dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals >> nationwide,
> > amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 >> Twenty-two
> > thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this >> same
> > period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes. >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada.

> > Then >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all
> > hand guns >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns
> > there are the >> > more access criminals will have to them. The
> > former chief of police >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public
> > Safety, claimed the majority of >> > handguns used in crimes had
> > been stolen locally. That turned out to >> > be a crock because the
> > RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with >> > that. Stolen in
> > the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen >> > domestically.
> > >> >
> > >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost

> > everyone of >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the
> > last 20 years there >> > has been only one shooting involving a
> > legally owned handgun in the >> > hands of a licensed owner.
> > Apparently gun control efforts are only >> > effective against law
> > abiding people. >>
> > >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass

> > shootings in >> the USA this past weekend.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad
> > > people will be carrying guns. Guns FTW!

> >
> > Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't
> > wish to see' comes to mind!

>
> You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't
> affect us directly, we don't care about it.
>
> Or else we'd have public health care.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


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Joie MacDonalds wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > > On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad
> > > > people will be carrying guns. Guns FTW!
> > >
> > > Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't
> > > wish to see' comes to mind!

> >
> > You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't
> > affect us directly, we don't care about it.
> >
> > Or else we'd have public health care.

>
> You have trouble doing things for the communal good. Suggesting such
> things makes half the country go "Marxism!" Not that they know what
> Marxism is
>
> Have I got y'all figured out or what?


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Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2021 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:36:19 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On 10 May 2021 11:36:29 GMT, "Joie MacDonalds"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 22:26:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 2021-05-09 6:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> >> On 5/9/2021 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> In order to buy a handgun you have to have a special

> possession >> >> and >>> acquisition license that has to be renewed
> regularly. The >> >> spouse's >>> signature is required.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To buy a handgun here you need a hundred bucks and know

> where to >> >> go. Too >> many stolen guns available.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>

> https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ts/2017/07/25/
> >> >> 436533/stolen-guns-america/ >> >> >> >> >> According to data

> from the Federal Bureau of Investigation >> >> (FBI), >> during the
> four-year period from 2012 to 2015, nearly half >> >> a billion >>
> dollars worth of guns were stolen from individuals >> >> nationwide,
> amounting >> to an estimated 1.2 million guns.3 >> >> Twenty-two
> thousand guns were stolen >> from gun stores during this >> >> same
> period.4 A gun is stolen in the U.S. >> every two minutes. >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A lot of those stolen guns end up being smuggled into Canada.

> Then >> >> > the anti gun crowd start chirping that we should ban all
> hand guns >> >> > because criminals steal them and that the more guns
> there are the >> >> > more access criminals will have to them. The
> former chief of police >> >> > for Toronto, now Minister of Public
> Safety, claimed the majority of >> >> > handguns used in crimes had
> been stolen locally. That turned out to >> >> > be a crock because
> the RCMP who track that stuff didn't agree with >> >> > that. Stolen
> in the US and smuggled in is not the same as stolen >> >> >
> domestically. >> >> >
> >> >> > Toronto sees roughly 80 handgun murders a year, almost

> everyone of >> >> > them involving young FITB gang members. In the
> last 20 years there >> >> > has been only one shooting involving a
> legally owned handgun in the >> >> > hands of a licensed owner.
> Apparently gun control efforts are only >> >> > effective against law
> abiding people. >> >>
> >> >> They said on the news this a.m. that there were TEN mass

> shootings in >> >> the USA this past weekend.
> >> >
> >> >Yeah, but if the good people can't carry guns, only the bad

> people will >> >be carrying guns. Guns FTW!
> >>
> >> Somehow the old expression of 'None so blind as those who don't

> wish >> to see' comes to mind!
> >
> > You fundamentally don't understand Americans. If something doesn't
> > affect us directly, we don't care about it.
> >
> > Or else we'd have public health care.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> What's the big deal... anyone with the gelt who can reach the counter
> can buy a 12 ga., even an eight year old. In a gun fight I'll put my
> 12 ga. up against your pistol... at best you may wound me, at worst
> I'll blow your head off. Any firearms expert will say for personel
> protection nothing beats a 12 ga... bad guys break into your home and
> hear the sound of a 12 ga. racking they'll shit their pants.


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