On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:27:16 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>
>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not the
>>>>> recipe.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade for
>>>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
>>>>
>>> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name. Why not dip
>>> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before you cook it?
>>>
>> I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my head.
>>
>It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an American.
>
>Jill

why?
Janet US

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 6:12:13 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>
> Do you remember Alton Brown using Dr. Pepper for his preparation of
> ham?
>
> Country Ham
> Alton Brown
> Ingredients
>
> 1 country (dry cured) ham
>
> 1 liter Dr. Pepper
>
> 1 cup sweet pickle juice, optional
>
> Directions
> Unwrap ham and scrub off any surface mold (if you hung in a sack for 6
> months you'd have mold too). Carefully remove hock with hand saw. (If
> this idea makes you eye your first aid kit, ask your butcher to do it.
> But make sure you keep the hock, it's the best friend collard greens
> ever had.)
>
*SNIP*
>
> Cooks note: Even after soaking, country ham is quite salty, so thin
> slicing is mandatory. If you're a bacon fan, however, cut a thicker
> (1/4-inch) slice and fry it up for breakfast.
>
> Janet US
>
I *vaguely* remember that episode but admit I've never cooked a whole
country ham. But I have cooked sliced c.h. and used either plan water
or coke to poach the ham slices for 15 minutes; discard the liquid and
fry the slice. Poaching in water or coke leeches out most of the salt
and doesn't leave you standing at the sink guzzling water for the next
6 hours.

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 6:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> >>
> >> bruce bowser wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not the
> >>>> recipe.
> >>>
> >>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade for
> >>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
> >>>
> >> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name. Why not dip
> >> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before you cook it?
> >>
> > I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my head.
>
> It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an American.

Why would "Jill" care?

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:32:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:15:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> > > You make an effort to come across as low brow as possible with
> > > your cooking posts, don't you? It's a schtick, isn't it?
> > >
> > Anyway, no. Seriously. The website I posted maybe didn't seem as fattening as a normal pork barbeque is, because it used 'Zero Calorie' cherry coke for the overnighter. Then, dry rub awhile before cooking.
> >
> Have I missed something all these years of happily consuming barbecue?
> What in pork barbecue is 'fattening'? It might be great but the thought of
> soaking a cut of pork overnight in cherry coke THEN using a dry rub before
> cooking sounds completely wrong.
>
> Forget that damn coke, just drink it or pour it out or

Or add it with Dewar's. Any nationality can appreciate that.

On 5/8/2021 7:13 PM, US Janet wrote:
> On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:27:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not the
>>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade for
>>>>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
>>>>>
>>>> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name. Why not dip
>>>> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before you cook it?
>>>>
>>> I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my head.
>>>
>> It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an American.
>>
>> Jill
>
> why?
> Janet US
>
Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV

Jill

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 5/8/2021 7:13 PM, US Janet wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:27:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> bruce bowser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not the
> >>>>>> recipe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade for
> >>>>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name. Why not dip
> >>>> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before you cook it?
> >>>>
> >>> I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my head.
> >>>
> >> It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an American.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > why?
> > Janet US
> >
> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV

How does bourbon taste to you? Try country ribs marinated over night in a bourbon marinade recipe.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 5/8/2021 7:13 PM, US Janet wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:27:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> bruce bowser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not the
> >>>>>> recipe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade for
> >>>>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name. Why not dip
> >>>> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before you cook it?
> >>>>
> >>> I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my head.
> >>>
> >> It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an American.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > why?
> > Janet US
> >
> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV

I stopped drinking Coke about 10 years ago. Now _any_ Coke tastes
like a weird mix of chemicals.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-05-09 10:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:

>>>
>> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
>
> I stopped drinking Coke about 10 years ago. Now _any_ Coke tastes
> like a weird mix of chemicals.

I never cared for Coke when I was younger. The first time I actually
liked it was when i bought in Germany, and the other choices in that pop
machine were less appealing.

On 5/9/2021 10:26 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On 5/8/2021 7:13 PM, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:27:16 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not the
>>>>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade for
>>>>>>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name. Why not dip
>>>>>> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before you cook it?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my head.
>>>>>
>>>> It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an American.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> why?
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
>
> I stopped drinking Coke about 10 years ago. Now _any_ Coke tastes
> like a weird mix of chemicals.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I've never been a soft drink/soda pop fan. Much less the diet stuff
with aspartame or stevia or whatever the heck they use these days.
Occasionally I drink ginger ale but that's rare.

Funny how "bowser" had never heard of country ribs, then suddenly he's
looking at a cherry coke marinade for the same cut of meat. I posted a
tried and true (very good) recipe for marinade. There are many other
good ones that don't involve soda pop.

Oh, and the thing about the mandarin oranges in the recipe I use? Yep,
it's food science. Citrus fruit contains enzymes which serve as a
natural tenderizer.

I'll be firing up the Weber kettle charcoal grill for those "ribs" today.

Jill

Thomas wrote:

> .
> > No one seems to have a problem with using wine, beer or spirits for
> > a portion of a wet marinade.
> >
> I use apricot brandy on ham.

Interesting!

On 5/9/2021 12:47 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Thomas wrote:
>
>> .
>>> No one seems to have a problem with using wine, beer or spirits for
>>> a portion of a wet marinade.
>>>
I don't have a problem with them but don't rely on them in wet marinades.

>> I use apricot brandy on ham.
>
> Interesting!
>
Interesting enough if you marinate or glaze ham. What kind of ham?

Jill

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 11:16:20 AM UTC-4, wrote:

> I've never been a soft drink/soda pop fan. Much less the diet stuff
> with aspartame or stevia or whatever the heck they use these days.
> Occasionally I drink ginger ale but that's rare.

For years, I drank two or three Diet Cokes every day. Then I was
facing bone grafts for dental implants, and I said, "Do I really need
to be rinsing my teeth with phosphoric acid?" and "Am I increasing
my risk of osteoporosis?"

I stopped cold turkey. A couple of years later I needed some caffeine
and got a Diet Coke from the vending machine at work. Auggh!
It tasted terrible.

> Funny how "bowser" had never heard of country ribs, then suddenly he's
> looking at a cherry coke marinade for the same cut of meat.

Anybody can google. He acts like a refugee from alt.fast-food. It's
possible he's _just_ winding us up, but I think he's also never had
much experience with good food.

> I posted a
> tried and true (very good) recipe for marinade. There are many other
> good ones that don't involve soda pop.
>
> Oh, and the thing about the mandarin oranges in the recipe I use? Yep,
> it's food science. Citrus fruit contains enzymes which serve as a
> natural tenderizer.
>
> I'll be firing up the Weber kettle charcoal grill for those "ribs" today.

Sounds good. It's cold (44 F) and rainy here. Soon I'll start a batch
of vegetable soup. I'm still without a kitchen; I'll use the induction
hotplate outdoors so I don't drive my husband crazy with the smell
of frying onions.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-05-09 10:55 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 11:16:20 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>> I've never been a soft drink/soda pop fan. Much less the diet stuff
>> with aspartame or stevia or whatever the heck they use these days.
>> Occasionally I drink ginger ale but that's rare.
>
> For years, I drank two or three Diet Cokes every day. Then I was
> facing bone grafts for dental implants, and I said, "Do I really need
> to be rinsing my teeth with phosphoric acid?" and "Am I increasing
> my risk of osteoporosis?"
>
> I stopped cold turkey. A couple of years later I needed some caffeine
> and got a Diet Coke from the vending machine at work. Auggh!
> It tasted terrible.
>
I've never drunk Coke and have no wish to.
Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to peanuts
and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is an
indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".

bruce bowser wrote:

> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:32:19 PM UTC-4,
> wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:15:38 AM UTC-4,
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > You make an effort to come across as low brow as possible with
> > > > your cooking posts, don't you? It's a schtick, isn't it?
> > > >
> > > Anyway, no. Seriously. The website I posted maybe didn't seem as
> > > fattening as a normal pork barbeque is, because it used 'Zero
> > > Calorie' cherry coke for the overnighter. Then, dry rub awhile
> > > before cooking.
> > >
> > Have I missed something all these years of happily consuming
> > barbecue? What in pork barbecue is 'fattening'? It might be great
> > but the thought of soaking a cut of pork overnight in cherry coke
> > THEN using a dry rub before cooking sounds completely wrong.
> >
> > Forget that damn coke, just drink it or pour it out or
>
> Or add it with Dewar's. Any nationality can appreciate that.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."

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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 10:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-4,
> > wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
> >
> > I stopped drinking Coke about 10 years ago. Now any Coke tastes
> > like a weird mix of chemicals.
>
> I never cared for Coke when I was younger. The first time I actually
> liked it was when i bought in Germany, and the other choices in that
> pop machine were less appealing.

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Graham wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 10:55 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 11:16:20 AM UTC-4,
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I've never been a soft drink/soda pop fan. Much less the diet
> > > stuff with aspartame or stevia or whatever the heck they use
> > > these days. Occasionally I drink ginger ale but that's rare.
> >
> > For years, I drank two or three Diet Cokes every day. Then I was
> > facing bone grafts for dental implants, and I said, "Do I really
> > need to be rinsing my teeth with phosphoric acid?" and "Am I
> > increasing my risk of osteoporosis?"
> >
> > I stopped cold turkey. A couple of years later I needed some
> > caffeine and got a Diet Coke from the vending machine at work.
> > Auggh! It tasted terrible.
> >
> I've never drunk Coke and have no wish to.
> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
> peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is an
> indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".

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cshenk wrote:

> Thomas wrote:
>
> > .
> > > No one seems to have a problem with using wine, beer or spirits
> > > for a portion of a wet marinade.
> > >
> > I use apricot brandy on ham.
>
> Interesting!

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jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/9/2021 12:47 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Thomas wrote:
> >
> >> .
> > > > No one seems to have a problem with using wine, beer or spirits
> > > > for a portion of a wet marinade.
> > > >
> I don't have a problem with them but don't rely on them in wet
> marinades.
>
> > > I use apricot brandy on ham.
> >
> > Interesting!
> >
> Interesting enough if you marinate or glaze ham. What kind of ham?
>
> Jill

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bruce bowser wrote:

> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On 5/8/2021 7:13 PM, US Janet wrote:
> > > On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:27:16 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 5/8/2021 4:38 PM, wrote:
> > >>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 2:33:51 PM UTC-5, Joie McDonalds
> > wrote: >>>>
> > >>>> bruce bowser wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-4,
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Country" is referring to the cut of meat she is using, not
> > the >>>>>> recipe.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Oh, I had no idea. I was looking at a cherry coke marinade
> > for >>>>> country bbq'd ribs, here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Eew. These kinds of ideas give American cuisine a bad name.
> > Why not dip >>>> your meat in a bucket of industrial waste before
> > you cook it? >>>>
> > >>> I admit the cherry coke thing had me staring and scratching my
> > head. >>>
> > >> It's a horrible idea. BTW, I have no idea if "bowser" is an
> > American. >>
> > >> Jill
> > >
> > > why?
> > > Janet US
> > >
> > Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
>
> How does bourbon taste to you? Try country ribs marinated over
> night in a bourbon marinade recipe.

Like it or not, but bourbon is an honest drink compared to cherry coke.

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On 2021 May 9, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV

Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
Our soda fountain was attached to a small bakery, so fresh pastries were
served at the counter as well.
I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.

leo

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>
> Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
> just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
> small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
> rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
>
The soda fountain down the street from our house offered coke, cherry syrup
to make a cherry coke, or you could just request the cherry syrup for a 'cherry
smash.' That was my favorite and I always ordered that when I got 5¢ to spend.
>
> I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
> in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
> soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
>
> leo
>
I can't understand why they disappeared either.

On Sun, 9 May 2021 14:05:14 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>>
>> Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
>> just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
>> small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
>> rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
>>
>The soda fountain down the street from our house offered coke, cherry syrup
>to make a cherry coke, or you could just request the cherry syrup for a 'cherry
>smash.' That was my favorite and I always ordered that when I got 5¢ to spend.
>>
>> I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
>> in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
>> soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
>>
>> leo
>>
>I can't understand why they disappeared either.

With the marble counters, a mirror that ran the length of the counter,
swivel bent wood stools in dark wood. Our soda fountain also had a
candy counter across from te soda fountain and the back half of the
room had booths where you could order a regular meal or a Coney Island
(hot dog on a bun with chili sauce. 10 cents)
Suicide coke was all the rage when I was in high school. That was a
Coke with a shot of all the fountain flavors in it. Even as a high
schooler I recognized what a treat it was to be able to still find a
place like that. (Cheese sandwich 10 cents. 2 slices of white bread
with 2 slices of cheese, grilled.)
Janet US

On 2021-05-09 4:36 p.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2021 May 9, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
>
> Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
> just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
> small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
> rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
> Our soda fountain was attached to a small bakery, so fresh pastries were
> served at the counter as well.
> I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
> in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
> soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
>

The city where I lived when I was a teen had one. It was after school
hangout. They had cola, root beer, ginger ale, orange, lemon, lime,
cherry and many other syrups. They would put the ice in a glass, add the
syrup and then fill it up with soda. It came with a straw that was used
to stir it up as well as to drink it. We would often get cola and get a
shot of cherry or vanilla in it.


That restaurant closed down years ago but about 10 years ago the local
Harley Davidson dealer relocated and the back corner of the new venue
has a coffee shop made from the old tables and wood paneling and a black
and white tile floor like the soda shop.

On 5/9/2021 2:05 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>>
>> Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
>> just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
>> small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
>> rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
>>
> The soda fountain down the street from our house offered coke, cherry syrup
> to make a cherry coke, or you could just request the cherry syrup for a 'cherry
> smash.' That was my favorite and I always ordered that when I got 5¢ to spend.
>>
>> I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
>> in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
>> soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
>>
>> leo
>>
> I can't understand why they disappeared either.
>


They didn't serve beer and reefers.

On 5/9/2021 2:05 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>>
>> Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
>> just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
>> small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
>> rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
>>
> The soda fountain down the street from our house offered coke, cherry syrup
> to make a cherry coke, or you could just request the cherry syrup for a 'cherry
> smash.' That was my favorite and I always ordered that when I got 5¢ to spend.
>>
>> I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
>> in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
>> soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
>>
>> leo
>>
> I can't understand why they disappeared either.
>


Actually, around here they have come back with a vengeance, but
reinvented as Chinese bubble tea shops.

On 5/9/2021 4:36 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 May 9, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
>
> Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
> just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
> small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
> rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
> Our soda fountain was attached to a small bakery, so fresh pastries were
> served at the counter as well.
> I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
> in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
> soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
>
> leo
>
>

Oh yes, they were fun. Last one I recall was at the neighborhood
pharmacy and it closed some time in the mid 1960s.

Gone with them were the burger places with car hops. At the endo f a
date, after the moves we often went out to the drive-in, long before the
fast foods took over. We went for some food, but a couple of the places
were where you showed off your hot car.

We lost some good times.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Gone with them were the burger places with car hops.
>
Sonic has carhops.

On 5/9/2021 7:05 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Gone with them were the burger places with car hops.
>>
> Sonic has carhops.
>
Yeah, but it's not quite the same thing.

Jill

On 5/9/2021 4:05 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
> in Message-ID: >
> Graham wrote :
>
>> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to peanuts
>> and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is an
>> indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
>
> Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
> I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery and
> green pepper.
>
> Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
>
I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion, celery and
bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll use them in stews
and such but I don't go out of my way to eat them.

Jill

On 5/9/2021 12:55 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Sounds good. It's cold (44 F) and rainy here. Soon I'll start a batch
> of vegetable soup. I'm still without a kitchen; I'll use the induction
> hotplate outdoors so I don't drive my husband crazy with the smell
> of frying onions.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

The weather down here has been delightful, albeit breezy, the last few
days. Windows open, temps in the 70's and a nice cross-breeze flowing
through the house. The humidity is negligible. How soon do you think
your kitchen reno will be done? It's good you have other means for
cooking while it is underway, frying onions or not.

Jill

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:31:49 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/9/2021 4:36 PM, Leo wrote:
> > On 2021 May 9, , jmcquown wrote
> > (in article >):
> >
> >> Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
> >
> > Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
> > just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
> > small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
> > rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
> > Our soda fountain was attached to a small bakery, so fresh pastries were
> > served at the counter as well.
> > I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
> > in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
> > soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
> >
> > leo
> >
> Oh yes, they were fun. Last one I recall was at the neighborhood
> pharmacy and it closed some time in the mid 1960s.
>
> Gone with them were the burger places with car hops. At the endo f a
> date, after the moves we often went out to the drive-in, long before the
> fast foods took over. We went for some food, but a couple of the places
> were where you showed off your hot car.
>
> We lost some good times.

They all supposedly deliver, now.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/9/2021 4:05 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
> > in Message-ID: >
> > Graham wrote :
> >
> > > Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
> > > peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
> > > an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
> >
> > Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
> > I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
> > and green pepper.
> >
> > Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
> >
> I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion, celery
> and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll use them in
> stews and such but I don't go out of my way to eat them.
>
> Jill

I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell pepper/paprika. I
must be from another church.

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On 2021-05-09 2:05 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
> in Message-ID: >
> Graham wrote :
>
>> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to peanuts
>> and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is an
>> indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
>
> Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
> I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery and
> green pepper.
>
> Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
>
So I'm guilty of a misnomer! No need to get your knickers in a twist!

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 2:05 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
> > in Message-ID: >
> > Graham wrote :
> >
> > > Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
> > > peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
> > > an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
> >
> > Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
> > I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
> > and green pepper.
> >
> > Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
> >
> So I'm guilty of a misnomer! No need to get your knickers in a twist!

Carrots are part of the trinity. Bell peppers are not. Where's the
misnomer?

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On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:06:25 PM UTC-4, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-05-09 10:55 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 11:16:20 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> >> I've never been a soft drink/soda pop fan. Much less the diet stuff
> >> with aspartame or stevia or whatever the heck they use these days.
> >> Occasionally I drink ginger ale but that's rare.
> >
> > For years, I drank two or three Diet Cokes every day. Then I was
> > facing bone grafts for dental implants, and I said, "Do I really need
> > to be rinsing my teeth with phosphoric acid?" and "Am I increasing
> > my risk of osteoporosis?"
> >
> > I stopped cold turkey. A couple of years later I needed some caffeine
> > and got a Diet Coke from the vending machine at work. Auggh!
> > It tasted terrible.
> >
> I've never drunk Coke and have no wish to.
> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to peanuts
> and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is an
> indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".

Sadly, because I drink beer so seldom, it doesn't taste as good as I
remember it. But I bravely soldier on.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:05:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> >
> > Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the soda jerk
> > just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into your drink for a
> > small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and chocolate cokes as being all the
> > rage. Several other syrups were available for whatever whim struck you.
> >
> The soda fountain down the street from our house offered coke, cherry syrup
> to make a cherry coke, or you could just request the cherry syrup for a 'cherry
> smash.' That was my favorite and I always ordered that when I got 5¢ to spend.
> >
> > I can´t figure out why those delightful establishments went away, at least
> > in small towns. Even in Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town
> > soda fountain. Maybe it´s nostalgia.
> >
> > leo
> >
> I can't understand why they disappeared either.

Cars. They gave people more choices. And the general move to self-serve
drugstores. And labor costs.

Plus, you can't make out at the soda fountain like you can in a car.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:19:59 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 5/9/2021 12:55 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Sounds good. It's cold (44 F) and rainy here. Soon I'll start a batch
> > of vegetable soup. I'm still without a kitchen; I'll use the induction
> > hotplate outdoors so I don't drive my husband crazy with the smell
> > of frying onions.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> The weather down here has been delightful, albeit breezy, the last few
> days. Windows open, temps in the 70's and a nice cross-breeze flowing
> through the house. The humidity is negligible. How soon do you think
> your kitchen reno will be done? It's good you have other means for
> cooking while it is underway, frying onions or not.
>
> Jill

The cabinets are still a month out. One they're in, we'll have the countertop
people come out and measure and make templates. God only knows how
long after that it will be.

Meantime, we're still working on the walls and electrical work. Finding
rotted subfloor took a few days to fix. Since I'm working and my husband
is disabled and can only put in 2-3 hours of work before he craps out,
it's slow going.

I miss the kitchen sink the most. The little sink in the bathroom just isn't
cutting it.

We're going through a prodigious amount of paper towels, wiping things
that we usually rinse.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:33:16 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 5/9/2021 4:05 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
> > > in Message-ID: >
> > > Graham wrote :
> > >
> > > > Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
> > > > peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
> > > > an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
> > >
> > > Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
> > > I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
> > > and green pepper.
> > >
> > > Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
> > >
> > I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion, celery
> > and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll use them in
> > stews and such but I don't go out of my way to eat them.
> >
> > Jill
> I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell pepper/paprika. I
> must be from another church.

Generally, including bell pepper rather than carrot hails from Louisiana,
and they're the people who named it the trinity. The TV chef Justin
Wilson popularized the term outside Louisiana, and it was easy for
people to adopt the term when referring to the classic mirepoix.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:33:16 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion,
> > > celery and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll
> > > use them in stews and such but I don't go out of my way to eat
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Jill
> > I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell
> > pepper/paprika. I must be from another church.
>
> Generally, including bell pepper rather than carrot hails from
> Louisiana, and they're the people who named it the trinity.

Yeah, right.

> The TV chef Justin Wilson popularized the term outside Louisiana, and
it was
> easy for people to adopt the term when referring to the classic
> mirepoix.

I've never heard of Justin Wilson. Anyway the real trinity includes
garlic and chilli pepper, of course.

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