On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:42:49 AM UTC-4, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:33:16 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion,
> > > > celery and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll
> > > > use them in stews and such but I don't go out of my way to eat
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell
> > > pepper/paprika. I must be from another church.
> >
> > Generally, including bell pepper rather than carrot hails from
> > Louisiana, and they're the people who named it the trinity.
> Yeah, right.
> > The TV chef Justin Wilson popularized the term outside Louisiana, and
> it was
> > easy for people to adopt the term when referring to the classic
> > mirepoix.
> I've never heard of Justin Wilson. Anyway the real trinity includes
> garlic and chilli pepper, of course.

Garlic wouldn't have been there. Royalty would have killed their subjects because of the after-smell of garlic. So, "the holy trinity is typically equal measures of the three ingredients or one part onions, one part green bell pepper, and one part celery"

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Sounds good. It's cold (44 F) and rainy here. Soon I'll start a batch
> of vegetable soup. I'm still without a kitchen; I'll use the induction
> hotplate outdoors so I don't drive my husband crazy with the smell
> of frying onions.

I love that smell. One of my favorites.

On 5/9/2021 7:56 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>
>> On 2021-05-09 2:05 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
>>> in Message-ID: >
>>> Graham wrote :
>>>
>>>> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
>>>> peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
>>>> an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
>>>
>>> Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
>>> I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
>>> and green pepper.
>>>
>>> Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
>>>
>> So I'm guilty of a misnomer! No need to get your knickers in a twist!
>
> Carrots are part of the trinity. Bell peppers are not. Where's the
> misnomer?

Here in the USA, I've heard of 2 different.
Normal(?) = onion, celery and carrot. That's what I normally use.

In the deep South (aka Cajun cooking), it's bell peppers instead of carrots.

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:04:14 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Sounds good. It's cold (44 F) and rainy here. Soon I'll start a batch
> > of vegetable soup. I'm still without a kitchen; I'll use the induction
> > hotplate outdoors so I don't drive my husband crazy with the smell
> > of frying onions.
> I love that smell. One of my favorites.

He likes it too. Just not deposited on every surface in the house.

I'll be happy when the kitchen is finished and we have an exhaust
hood again.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary wrote:

> On 5/9/2021 7:56 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > Graham wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021-05-09 2:05 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
> >>> in Message-ID: >
> >>> Graham wrote :
> >>>
> >>>> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
> >>>> peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
> >>>> an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
> >>>
> >>> Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
> >>> I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
> >>> and green pepper.
> >>>
> >>> Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
> >>>
> >> So I'm guilty of a misnomer! No need to get your knickers in a twist!
> >
> > Carrots are part of the trinity. Bell peppers are not. Where's the
> > misnomer?
> Here in the USA, I've heard of 2 different.
> Normal(?) = onion, celery and carrot. That's what I normally use.
>
> In the deep South (aka Cajun cooking), it's bell peppers instead of carrots.


You know you are responding to an Oz troll, Gary...right?*

[*but unlike Jill, I will not tell you to *not* engage with a troll...that's up to you...]

And of course bell peppers are part of the trinity, which is a *variation* of mirepoix - thousands of sources inform so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_trinity_(cooking)

"The holy trinity in Cajun cuisine and Louisiana Creole cuisine is the base for several dishes in the regional cuisines of Louisiana and consists of onions, bell peppers and celery. The preparation of Cajun/Creole dishes such as crawfish étouffée, gumbo, and jambalaya all start from this base.

Variants use garlic, parsley, or shallots in addition to the three trinity ingredients. The addition of garlic to the holy trinity is sometimes referred to as adding "the pope."

The holy trinity is the Cajun and Louisiana Creole variant of mirepoix; traditional mirepoix is two parts onions, one part carrots, and one part celery, whereas the holy trinity is typically equal measures of the three ingredients or one part onions, one part green bell pepper, and one part celery. It is also an evolution of the Spanish sofrito, which contains onion, garlic, bell peppers, and tomatoes..."

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On Mon, 10 May 2021 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

> Gary wrote:
>
>> On 5/9/2021 7:56 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>> > Graham wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2021-05-09 2:05 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
>> >>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
>> >>> in Message-ID: >
>> >>> Graham wrote :
>> >>>
>> >>>> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
>> >>>> peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
>> >>>> an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
>> >>>
>> >>> Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
>> >>> I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
>> >>> and green pepper.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
>> >>>
>> >> So I'm guilty of a misnomer! No need to get your knickers in a twist!
>> >
>> > Carrots are part of the trinity. Bell peppers are not. Where's the
>> > misnomer?
>> Here in the USA, I've heard of 2 different.
>> Normal(?) = onion, celery and carrot. That's what I normally use.
>>
>> In the deep South (aka Cajun cooking), it's bell peppers instead of carrots.
>
>
>You know you are responding to an Oz troll, Gary...right?*
>
>[*but unlike Jill, I will not tell you to *not* engage with a troll...that's up to you...]
>
>And of course bell peppers are part of the trinity, which is a *variation* of mirepoix - thousands of sources inform so:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_trinity_(cooking)
>
>"The holy trinity in Cajun cuisine and Louisiana Creole cuisine is the base for several dishes in the regional cuisines of Louisiana and consists of onions, bell peppers and celery. The preparation of Cajun/Creole dishes such as crawfish étouffée, gumbo, and jambalaya all start from this base.
>
>Variants use garlic, parsley, or shallots in addition to the three trinity ingredients. The addition of garlic to the holy trinity is sometimes referred to as adding "the pope."
>
>The holy trinity is the Cajun and Louisiana Creole variant of mirepoix; traditional mirepoix is two parts onions, one part carrots, and one part celery, whereas the holy trinity is typically equal measures of the three ingredients or one part onions, one part green bell pepper, and one part celery. It is also an evolution of the Spanish sofrito, which contains onion, garlic, bell peppers, and tomatoes..."

My mirepoix contains garlic, sweet onion, and curly leaf parsley. I'll
add celery, carrot, and bell pepper but all cut coarsely as part of
the dish.

bruce bowser wrote:

> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:42:49 AM UTC-4, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:33:16 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion,
> > > > > celery and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots.
> > > > > I'll use them in stews and such but I don't go out of my way
> > > > > to eat them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > > I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell
> > > > pepper/paprika. I must be from another church.
> > >
> > > Generally, including bell pepper rather than carrot hails from
> > > Louisiana, and they're the people who named it the trinity.
> > Yeah, right.
> > > The TV chef Justin Wilson popularized the term outside Louisiana,
> > > and
> > it was
> > > easy for people to adopt the term when referring to the classic
> > > mirepoix.
> > I've never heard of Justin Wilson. Anyway the real trinity includes
> > garlic and chilli pepper, of course.
>
> Garlic wouldn't have been there. Royalty would have killed their
> subjects because of the after-smell of garlic. So, "the holy trinity
> is typically equal measures of the three ingredients or one part
> onions, one part green bell pepper, and one part celery"

Who are you quoting?

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On 5/10/2021 8:10 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 10 May 2021 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > wrote:
>
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/2021 7:56 PM, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>>> Graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-05-09 2:05 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 13:06:17 -0600
>>>>>> in Message-ID: >
>>>>>> Graham wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting that you have developed an aversion to it. I have to
>>>>>>> peanuts and carrots. The latter is particularly annoying as it is
>>>>>>> an indispensible ingredient of the "trinity".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh??! Carrots in the "trinity"?
>>>>>> I thought the three ingredients in the "trinity" were onion, celery
>>>>>> and green pepper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again there's "mirepoix", but that's classical French.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm guilty of a misnomer! No need to get your knickers in a twist!
>>>>
>>>> Carrots are part of the trinity. Bell peppers are not. Where's the
>>>> misnomer?
>>> Here in the USA, I've heard of 2 different.
>>> Normal(?) = onion, celery and carrot. That's what I normally use.
>>>
>>> In the deep South (aka Cajun cooking), it's bell peppers instead of carrots.
>>
>>
>> You know you are responding to an Oz troll, Gary...right?*
>>
>> [*but unlike Jill, I will not tell you to *not* engage with a troll...that's up to you...]
>>
>> And of course bell peppers are part of the trinity, which is a *variation* of mirepoix - thousands of sources inform so:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_trinity_(cooking)
>>
>> "The holy trinity in Cajun cuisine and Louisiana Creole cuisine is the base for several dishes in the regional cuisines of Louisiana and consists of onions, bell peppers and celery. The preparation of Cajun/Creole dishes such as crawfish étouffée, gumbo, and jambalaya all start from this base.
>>
>> Variants use garlic, parsley, or shallots in addition to the three trinity ingredients. The addition of garlic to the holy trinity is sometimes referred to as adding "the pope."
>>
>> The holy trinity is the Cajun and Louisiana Creole variant of mirepoix; traditional mirepoix is two parts onions, one part carrots, and one part celery, whereas the holy trinity is typically equal measures of the three ingredients or one part onions, one part green bell pepper, and one part celery. It is also an evolution of the Spanish sofrito, which contains onion, garlic, bell peppers, and tomatoes..."
>
> My mirepoix contains garlic, sweet onion, and curly leaf parsley. I'll
> add celery, carrot, and bell pepper but all cut coarsely as part of
> the dish.
>

your mirepoix isn't mirepoix. why do you call it what it isn't?

We're talking the ORIGINAL

Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:33:16 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion,
>>>> celery and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll
>>>> use them in stews and such but I don't go out of my way to eat
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell
>>> pepper/paprika. I must be from another church.
>>
>> Generally, including bell pepper rather than carrot hails from
>> Louisiana, and they're the people who named it the trinity.
>
> Yeah, right.
>
>> The TV chef Justin Wilson popularized the term outside Louisiana, and
> it was
>> easy for people to adopt the term when referring to the classic
>> mirepoix.
>
> I've never heard of Justin Wilson. Anyway the real trinity includes
> garlic and chilli pepper, of course.
>

Guess what master ... wilson never heard of you either !!!!!

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 4:40:58 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 7:33:16 PM UTC-4, Joie McDonalds wrote:
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I wondered about that. The "trinity" as I know it is onion,
> >>>> celery and bell pepper. I've never been a fan of carrots. I'll
> >>>> use them in stews and such but I don't go out of my way to eat
> >>>> them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jill
> >>> I've never heard of a holy trinity that includes bell
> >>> pepper/paprika. I must be from another church.
> >>
> >> Generally, including bell pepper rather than carrot hails from
> >> Louisiana, and they're the people who named it the trinity.
> >
> > Yeah, right.
> >
> >> The TV chef Justin Wilson popularized the term outside Louisiana, and
> > it was
> >> easy for people to adopt the term when referring to the classic
> >> mirepoix.
> >
> > I've never heard of Justin Wilson. Anyway the real trinity includes
> > garlic and chilli pepper, of course.
> >
> Guess what master ... wilson never heard of you either !!!!!



Hahahaaaa...BINGO...!!!

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Best
Greg

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/9/2021 4:36 PM, Leo wrote:
> > On 2021 May 9, , jmcquown wrote
> > (in article >):
> >
> > > Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
> >
> > Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the
> > soda jerk just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into
> > your drink for a small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and
> > chocolate cokes as being all the rage. Several other syrups were
> > available for whatever whim struck you. Our soda fountain was
> > attached to a small bakery, so fresh pastries were served at the
> > counter as well. I can´t figure out why those delightful
> > establishments went away, at least in small towns. Even in
> > Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town soda fountain.
> > Maybe it´s nostalgia.
> >
> > leo
> >
> >
>
> Oh yes, they were fun. Last one I recall was at the neighborhood
> pharmacy and it closed some time in the mid 1960s.
>
> Gone with them were the burger places with car hops. At the endo f a
> date, after the moves we often went out to the drive-in, long before
> the fast foods took over. We went for some food, but a couple of the
> places were where you showed off your hot car.
>
> We lost some good times.

Virginia Beach retained a few car hop places believe it or not. Very
popular (especially with COVID times).

I vaguely recall a soda jerk place but there's a 10 year or so
difference in ages. What I recall was the Kmart lunch counter place
Mom used to take us to some times. It was really inexpensive and oddly
the food was pretty good! Simple but good.

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:26:57 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > On 5/9/2021 4:36 PM, Leo wrote:
> > > On 2021 May 9, , jmcquown wrote
> > > (in article >):
> > >
> > > > Cherry coke tastes like a weird mix of chemicals to me. YMMV
> > >
> > > Back in the olden days, when every town had a soda fountain, the
> > > soda jerk just pumped a shot of whichever syrup you requested into
> > > your drink for a small fee. I remember cherry, vanilla and
> > > chocolate cokes as being all the rage. Several other syrups were
> > > available for whatever whim struck you. Our soda fountain was
> > > attached to a small bakery, so fresh pastries were served at the
> > > counter as well. I can´t figure out why those delightful
> > > establishments went away, at least in small towns. Even in
> > > Reno/Sparks, nothing can touch my old, small town soda fountain.
> > > Maybe it´s nostalgia.
> > >
> > > leo
> >
> > Oh yes, they were fun. Last one I recall was at the neighborhood
> > pharmacy and it closed some time in the mid 1960s.
> >
> > Gone with them were the burger places with car hops. At the endo f a
> > date, after the moves we often went out to the drive-in, long before
> > the fast foods took over. We went for some food, but a couple of the
> > places were where you showed off your hot car.
> >
> > We lost some good times.
> Virginia Beach retained a few car hop places believe it or not. Very
> popular (especially with COVID times).
>
> I vaguely recall a soda jerk place but there's a 10 year or so
> difference in ages. What I recall was the Kmart lunch counter place
> Mom used to take us to some times. It was really inexpensive and oddly
> the food was pretty good! Simple but good.

Some places aren't all that money grubbing and expensive as heck.