US Janet wrote:

> On Sat, 8 May 2021 11:57:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 5:44:16 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2021-05-08 11:30 a.m., songbird wrote:
> >> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > ...
> >> >> I saw that stuff for the first time at a party. It was served
> inside a >> >> hollowed out loaf of dark rye and with the cut out
> part chopped up into >> >> dipping size pieces. It looked kind of
> gross so no one was eating it. I >> >> was standing there talking to
> someone and I tried it. It was good so I >> >> had some more. One of
> the people I was talking to asked me if it was >> >> good and I said
> it was delicious. She tried it and went for more. Then >> >> one of
> the others tried it. It caught on and was consumed within >> >>
> minutes. It became a very popular party dip. >> >
> >> > it's a good way to hide spinach for those who don't like
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > with so much of it made at once i've taken to using it as
> >> > my evening meal. about a half cup along with a dozen pita
> >> > chips and i'm set, the chips are hearty enough that i can't
> >> > eat them quickly and they have a lot of crunch so i feel by
> >> > the time i'm done like i've accomplished something.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Spinach is an odd thing. I don't much care for it steamed, and it
> has to >> be just barely wilted before it develops a nasty taste.
> Yet, it is >> delicious in many other forms. I can handle small doses
> of it raw in a >> salad. I love spanakopita and that spinach dip. I
> love eggs Florentine >> and scrambled eggs with spinach and hot sauce.
> >
> > Here's a spinach salad from the Chinese restaurant down the street.
> > The dressing is a fresh squeezed orange with vinegar and sugar.
> > It's pretty awesome.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/kheZQX9rjB9zQCog6
>
> are the walnuts carmelized?
> Janet US

Looks like it to me too.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-08 6:36 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/8/2021 4:02 PM, US Janet wrote:
> >
> > > I prefer that spinach/artichoke dip as well.
> > > Why do food items go out of fashion?Â*Â*Â* That is a shame.
> > > Janet US
> > >
> > I truly don't think there's any such thing as food going out of
> > fashion. Â*There are "food fads", of course, but some things will
> > always taste good.Â* Just because it doesn't show up on a
> > restaurant menu... well heck, I don't eat out often.Â* I sure don't
> > let what is trendy on some menu dictate what I eat.
> >
>
> I think that things change slowly over time as we gain access to new
> ingredients. Take Italian food as an example. We associate it with
> pasta, tomatoes and hot peppers, and those things are all imports.
> The noodles are supposed to have come from Asia, and tomatoes and hot
> peppers came from South America, so they were unknown in Italy until
> the 1500s. Potatoes are a major part of European diets, and they are
> another import from the Americas.
>
> One of my favourite desserts when I was a kid was Junket. I have not
> seen that stuff in a grocery store in more than 49 years.

Lol, had to look that one up! Looks sort of nifty.

On 5/8/2021 8:21 PM, songbird wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> ...
>> One of my favourite desserts when I was a kid was Junket. I have not
>> seen that stuff in a grocery store in more than 49 years.
>
> i liked those nougats will little bits of different flavored
> jelly in them. i'm pretty sure those are still at the store
> but i'd have to actually go find them and i rather hate to
> shop.
>
>
> songbird
>
You'd probably like Aplets & Cotlets. Jellied apple and apricot candies
(nuts optional). Sadly, the company in the Pacific Northwest (USA) that
made them went out of business but you can make them:

https://recipegoldmine.com/familyfav...s-cotlets.html

An aside, about 25 years ago when I lived in west Tennessee I went out
to the mailbox and found a free small sample box of Aplets & Cotlets.
I'd never heard of them before. Quite tasty!

Jill

On 2021-05-09 6:20 a.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>> I think that things change slowly over time as we gain access to new
>> ingredients. Take Italian food as an example. We associate it with
>> pasta, tomatoes and hot peppers, and those things are all imports.
>> The noodles are supposed to have come from Asia, and tomatoes and hot
>> peppers came from South America, so they were unknown in Italy until
>> the 1500s. Potatoes are a major part of European diets, and they are
>> another import from the Americas.
>>
>> One of my favourite desserts when I was a kid was Junket. I have not
>> seen that stuff in a grocery store in more than 49 years.
>
> Lol, had to look that one up! Looks sort of nifty.

It was very popular when I was a kid. It was a sort of pudding and came
in a few different flavours. We had it frequently. It seemed to
disappear from the marketplace about the time that instant puddings came
on the scene.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:12:57 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-09 6:20 a.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> I think that things change slowly over time as we gain access to new
> >> ingredients. Take Italian food as an example. We associate it with
> >> pasta, tomatoes and hot peppers, and those things are all imports.
> >> The noodles are supposed to have come from Asia, and tomatoes and hot
> >> peppers came from South America, so they were unknown in Italy until
> >> the 1500s. Potatoes are a major part of European diets, and they are
> >> another import from the Americas.
> >>
> >> One of my favourite desserts when I was a kid was Junket. I have not
> >> seen that stuff in a grocery store in more than 49 years.
> >
> > Lol, had to look that one up! Looks sort of nifty.
> It was very popular when I was a kid. It was a sort of pudding and came
> in a few different flavours. We had it frequently. It seemed to
> disappear from the marketplace about the time that instant puddings came
> on the scene.

Food can the companies that make them are here one day and gone the next. Like with those astronaut desserts or treats they had back in the late 60's.

jmcquown wrote:
> I also like spinach in an omelet with a bit of melted brie. Remind me
> to do that again sometime soon.

In my last batch of chicken noodle vegetable soup, I added twice the
spinach that I normally do. (I used my old can of Popeye spinach)

My morning poos have a nice green tinge lately. LOL

US Janet wrote:
> I prefer that spinach/artichoke dip as well.
> Why do food items go out of fashion? That is a shame.
> Janet US

Who cares about "fashion?" If you like an old recipe, make it and enjoy it.

Ophelia wrote:

> On 08/05/2021 17:12, songbird wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > ...
> > > Spinach is an odd thing. I don't much care for it steamed, and it
> > > has to be just barely wilted before it develops a nasty taste.
> > > Yet, it is delicious in many other forms. I can handle small
> > > doses of it raw in a salad. I love spanakopita and that spinach
> > > dip. I love eggs Florentine and scrambled eggs with spinach and
> > > hot sauce.
> >
> > the best way i like it is fresh and not cooked at all
> > but usually we buy it in a mix with other baby greens.
> > i'm good with all of those.
> >
> > one way i got around hating canned spinach was that i
> > would put a bit of apple cider vinegar on it and that
> > covered up the metal taste enough that i could tolerate
> > eating it.
> >
> > if i'm hungry enough i can eat about anything. one
> > of the easiest $5 i've made was someone betting me that
> > i couldn't eat a whole cold slab of firm tofu plain.
> >
> >
> > songbird
> >
>
> ===
>
> <g> you did????

I think I'd pay 5$ to watch that!

bruce bowser wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:12:57 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-05-09 6:20 a.m., cshenk wrote:
> > > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > >> I think that things change slowly over time as we gain access to new
> > >> ingredients. Take Italian food as an example. We associate it with
> > >> pasta, tomatoes and hot peppers, and those things are all imports.
> > >> The noodles are supposed to have come from Asia, and tomatoes and hot
> > >> peppers came from South America, so they were unknown in Italy until
> > >> the 1500s. Potatoes are a major part of European diets, and they are
> > >> another import from the Americas.
> > >>
> > >> One of my favourite desserts when I was a kid was Junket. I have not
> > >> seen that stuff in a grocery store in more than 49 years.
> > >
> > > Lol, had to look that one up! Looks sort of nifty.
> > It was very popular when I was a kid. It was a sort of pudding and came
> > in a few different flavours. We had it frequently. It seemed to
> > disappear from the marketplace about the time that instant puddings came
> > on the scene.
> Food can the companies that make them are here one day and gone the next. Like with those astronaut desserts or treats they had back in the late 60's.


TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!

--
Best
Greg

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-09 6:20 a.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > > I think that things change slowly over time as we gain access to
> > > new ingredients. Take Italian food as an example. We associate it
> > > with pasta, tomatoes and hot peppers, and those things are all
> > > imports. The noodles are supposed to have come from Asia, and
> > > tomatoes and hot peppers came from South America, so they were
> > > unknown in Italy until the 1500s. Potatoes are a major part of
> > > European diets, and they are another import from the Americas.
> > >
> > > One of my favourite desserts when I was a kid was Junket. I have
> > > not seen that stuff in a grocery store in more than 49 years.
> >
> > Lol, had to look that one up! Looks sort of nifty.
>
> It was very popular when I was a kid. It was a sort of pudding and
> came in a few different flavours. We had it frequently. It seemed to
> disappear from the marketplace about the time that instant puddings
> came on the scene.

Makes sense that that would happen if the other was easier to make. I
recall simmering milk and stirring a lot as a young kid and making
pudding from a box in it as a kid.. My brother read the direction on
the box (I might not have been able to read yet) and had it put in 2
fair sized bowls in the fridge. Pretty sure I was that young as I
recall standing on a kitchen chair to do it. Firmed up nicely!

I'd have liked the experience the other but sadly, no.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>
> TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
>
> Best
> Greg
>
Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!

On 2021-05-09 2:37 p.m., wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>
>> TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
>>
>> Best
>> Greg
>>
> Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
>


I can't think of many things that would not taste awful with sulfur
water. There are areas around here where people get sulphur in their
well water. It can be nasty. I was once swimming at a friend's pool and
they had a water slide with water from their well. It was nasty enough
just sliding down that thing.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:41:03 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2021-05-09 2:37 p.m., wrote:
> >
> > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> >
> I can't think of many things that would not taste awful with sulfur
> water. There are areas around here where people get sulphur in their
> well water. It can be nasty. I was once swimming at a friend's pool and
> they had a water slide with water from their well. It was nasty enough
> just sliding down that thing.
>
Lots of people can't get by the smell but my grandparents had 'red' sulphur
water and it was mild tasting. But it sure didn't improve that TANG!!

On Sun, 9 May 2021 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:41:03 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2021-05-09 2:37 p.m., wrote:
>> >
>> > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
>> > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
>> > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
>> >
>> I can't think of many things that would not taste awful with sulfur
>> water. There are areas around here where people get sulphur in their
>> well water. It can be nasty. I was once swimming at a friend's pool and
>> they had a water slide with water from their well. It was nasty enough
>> just sliding down that thing.
>>
>Lots of people can't get by the smell but my grandparents had 'red' sulphur
>water and it was mild tasting. But it sure didn't improve that TANG!!

A public park in town had a fountain with 'mineral water'. Interesting
taste.
Janet US

jmcquown wrote:
....
> You'd probably like Aplets & Cotlets. Jellied apple and apricot candies
> (nuts optional). Sadly, the company in the Pacific Northwest (USA) that
> made them went out of business but you can make them:
>
> https://recipegoldmine.com/familyfav...s-cotlets.html

looks good to me. would try.


> An aside, about 25 years ago when I lived in west Tennessee I went out
> to the mailbox and found a free small sample box of Aplets & Cotlets.
> I'd never heard of them before. Quite tasty!


songbird

cshenk wrote:

yes, Ophilia!
it was no worse than a cold slab of oatmeal or
any of the wheat or other grain porridges cold
and plain.

i'm trying to think of anything more bland
than perhaps plain gelatin with no sweeteners
and water only...


....
> I think I'd pay 5$ to watch that!

someone's probably already done it on yewtoob.


songbird

wrote:
....
> Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!

iron water is common to me, so probably yes and it
wouldn't really bother me.

the water here has some iron and calcium in it and i'm
used to it.


songbird

Gary wrote:
> US Janet wrote:
>> I prefer that spinach/artichoke dip as well.
>> Why do food items go out of fashion? That is a shame.
>> Janet US
>
> Who cares about "fashion?" If you like an old recipe, make it and enjoy it.

if you can find the ingredients or suitable substitutes.


songbird

On 5/9/2021 6:47 PM, songbird wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> ...
>> You'd probably like Aplets & Cotlets. Jellied apple and apricot candies
>> (nuts optional). Sadly, the company in the Pacific Northwest (USA) that
>> made them went out of business but you can make them:
>>
>> https://recipegoldmine.com/familyfav...s-cotlets.html
>
> looks good to me. would try.
>
>
>> An aside, about 25 years ago when I lived in west Tennessee I went out
>> to the mailbox and found a free small sample box of Aplets & Cotlets.
>> I'd never heard of them before. Quite tasty!
>
>
> songbird
>
I'm not much for sweets but the surprisingly fresh fruit taste of those
candies was nice. Not the sort of candy I'd ever tasted before. It was
a surprise to find them in the mailbox, that's for sure! There was a
discussion back then on RFC about making them. That was a long time ago.

Jill

On 09/05/2021 23:51, songbird wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>
> yes, Ophilia!
> it was no worse than a cold slab of oatmeal or
> any of the wheat or other grain porridges cold
> and plain.
>
> i'm trying to think of anything more bland
> than perhaps plain gelatin with no sweeteners
> and water only...
>
>
> ...
>> I think I'd pay 5$ to watch that!
>
> someone's probably already done it on yewtoob.
>
>
> songbird

===

LOL maybe)

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> >
> > TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
> >
> > Best
> > Greg
> >
> Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!

I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic material taste/smell.. Taking a shower in that water would make me hack. It was pretty intense. I couldn't believe that restaurants made coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.

On 2021-05-10 3:26 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10,
> wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>>
>>> TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
>>>
>>> Best Greg
>>>
>> Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I
>> was at my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed
>> a glass with the only water available at their house. Oh brother,
>> d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
>
> I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been
> minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic
> material taste/smell. Taking a shower in that water would make me
> hack. It was pretty intense. I couldn't believe that restaurants made
> coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to
> hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.
>

The worst tasting water I ever had was from a fountain at the Newark
airport. It was disgusting.

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 3:26:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > >
> > > TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Greg
> > >
> > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic material taste/smell. Taking a shower in that water would make me hack. It was pretty intense.. I couldn't believe that restaurants made coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.

Yeah, the astronaut food binge of the late 60s and early 70s was a hit wan't it?

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:03:33 PM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> iron water is common to me, so probably yes and it
> wouldn't really bother me.
>
> the water here has some iron and calcium in it and i'm
> used to it.
>
> songbird
>
I was used to my grandparents' water, drank it all the time and never turned
up my nose. But TANG and sulphur water together is truly disgusting no matter
how "used to it" you are.

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:26:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >
> > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> >
> I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic material taste/smell. Taking a shower in that water would make me hack. It was pretty intense.. I couldn't believe that restaurants made coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.
>
I liked it too, until that one time it was mixed into sulphur water and their water
was mild. Of course, all their cooking was done with this water but it never
imparted an off-flavor to the food. My dad always complimented my grand
mother on her coffee.

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:26:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > >
> > > TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Greg
> > >
> > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic material taste/smell. Taking a shower in that water would make me hack. It was pretty intense.. I couldn't believe that restaurants made coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.
>
When my wife was in grad school we lived in Tampa. The tap water was
so awful that we didn't use it to boil pasta.
>
--Bryan

Dave Smith wrote:
....
> The worst tasting water I ever had was from a fountain at the Newark
> airport. It was disgusting.

mebbe Jimmy Hoffa?


songbird

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:26:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> > I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic material taste/smell. Taking a shower in that water would make me hack. It was pretty intense. I couldn't believe that restaurants made coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.
> >
> When my wife was in grad school we lived in Tampa. The tap water was
> so awful that we didn't use it to boil pasta.
> >
> --Bryan

I wonder if those pitchers that filters water would get rid of that taste? It surprised me that they would serve that stuff in restaurants. Even coffee couldn't cover it up. My guess is that the locals can no longer detect that taste. God is merciful.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:26:09 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > TANG orange drink - UGH...!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > Ever had TANG mixed with sulphur water? Back in the early 60's, I was at
> > > > my grandparents' home and they had a jar of TANG and I mixed a glass with
> > > > the only water available at their house. Oh brother, d-i-s-g-u-s-t-i-n-g!
> > > I had some awful central Florida water. There might have been minerals in there but the main problem was a heavy decaying organic material taste/smell. Taking a shower in that water would make me hack. It was pretty intense. I couldn't believe that restaurants made coffee using that water. It was just an awful experience. Sorry to hear that Tang won't make sulfur water drinkable. I kinda like Tang.
> > >
> > When my wife was in grad school we lived in Tampa. The tap water was
> > so awful that we didn't use it to boil pasta.
> > >
> > --Bryan
> I wonder if those pitchers that filters water would get rid of that taste? It surprised me that they would serve that stuff in restaurants. Even coffee couldn't cover it up. My guess is that the locals can no longer detect that taste. God is merciful.

You really really have to love those locals, don't you. I tell ya.