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I made chili dogs. I make them in a pan, side by side. Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F Simple salad to go with. dinner is ready in 20 minutes. Janet US |
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On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> I made chili dogs. > > I make them in a pan, side by side. > Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > Simple salad to go with. > dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > Janet US Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... -- Best Greg |
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On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: > > I made chili dogs. > > > > I make them in a pan, side by side. > > Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > > mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > > mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > > down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > > Simple salad to go with. > > dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > > Janet US > Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > You mean dropping the heated wieners? > > -- > Best > Greg > --Bryan |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote: >On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: >> I made chili dogs. >> >> I make them in a pan, side by side. >> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >> Simple salad to go with. >> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >> Janet US > > >Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... I had a small, boneless pork chop with some white mushrooms. All quickly fried in some dripping. Better than it sounds. |
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On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 5:36:42 PM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT), GM > > wrote: > > >On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: > >> I made chili dogs. > >> > >> I make them in a pan, side by side. > >> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > >> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > >> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > >> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > >> Simple salad to go with. > >> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > >> Janet US > > > > > >Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > I had a small, boneless pork chop with some white mushrooms. All > quickly fried in some dripping. Better than it sounds. > It sounds a lot better than a heated wiener. > --Bryan |
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On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> > I made chili dogs. > > Janet US > I think it will be grilled cheese sandwiches here. |
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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT), GM > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: > >> I made chili dogs. > >> > >> I make them in a pan, side by side. > >> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > >> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of > the >> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon > chili >> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > >> Simple salad to go with. > >> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > >> Janet US > > > > > > Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > > I had a small, boneless pork chop with some white mushrooms. All > quickly fried in some dripping. Better than it sounds. Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Joie McDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:50:38 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 5/11/2021 7:18 PM, wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: >>> >>> I made chili dogs. >>> >>> Janet US >>> >> I think it will be grilled cheese sandwiches here. >> >I wanted quick fix, too, so I'm cooking another cheeseburger. 1/3 lb. >ground chuck burger, rather thick, seasoned with coarsely ground S&P and >a little garlic powder. A dash of Worcestershire sauce. Swiss cheese >and a couple of slices of crispy bacon, served on a lightly toasted >whole wheat bun. > >Jill that sounds good. You've made it quick and easy, though, haven't you? You cook your bacon ahead and freeze it, right? I've got to get back into the habit of cooking the bacon and freezing it, it makes things so much more do-able. Janet US |
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US Janet wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:50:38 -0400, jmcquown > > wrote: > > > On 5/11/2021 7:18 PM, wrote: > >> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: > > > > > >>> I made chili dogs. > > > > > >>> Janet US > > > > > >> I think it will be grilled cheese sandwiches here. > >> > > I wanted quick fix, too, so I'm cooking another cheeseburger. 1/3 > > lb. ground chuck burger, rather thick, seasoned with coarsely > > ground S&P and a little garlic powder. A dash of Worcestershire > > sauce. Swiss cheese and a couple of slices of crispy bacon, served > > on a lightly toasted whole wheat bun. > > > > Jill > > that sounds good. You've made it quick and easy, though, haven't you? > You cook your bacon ahead and freeze it, right? > I've got to get back into the habit of cooking the bacon and freezing > it, it makes things so much more do-able. > Janet US Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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GM wrote:
> US Janet wrote: >> I made chili dogs. >> >> I make them in a pan, side by side. >> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >> Simple salad to go with. >> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >> Janet US > > > Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.  |
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On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote:
> GM wrote: >> US Janet wrote: >>> I made chili dogs. >>> >>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>> Simple salad to go with. >>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >>> Janet US >> >> >> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > > From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.Â* > > > > That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive insurance because they are so annoying. |
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On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: > > GM wrote: > >> US Janet wrote: > >>> I made chili dogs. > >>> > >>> I make them in a pan, side by side. > >>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > >>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > >>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > >>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > >>> Simple salad to go with. > >>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > >>> Janet US > >> > >> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > > > > From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner. > > > That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive > insurance because they are so annoying. I thought Wendy's had the dumbest commercial back in the '80s. There was an elderly guy who was a farmer and he said he had tomatoes and he reached into his pocket and put little cinnamon candies on the table saying that they were shrunken tomatoes. (If I remember correctly). |
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>On 5/12/2021 Garish wote: >> GM wrote: >>> US Janet wrote: >>>> I made chili dogs. >>>> >>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>> Simple salad to go with. >>>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... >> >> From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.* > >That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive >insurance because they are so annoying. Drowning Teddy Bears is sick... little kids won't be able to sleep. This morning I ground five pounds of pork butt and made sauseege patties for dinner tonight and some for the freezer. Got an 8 qt pot of tomato sauce going. We decided on Ronzoni Medium Shells for tonight. |
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 12:04:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: >> GM wrote: >>> US Janet wrote: >>>> I made chili dogs. >>>> >>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>> Simple salad to go with. >>>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> >>> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... >> >> From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.* >> >> >> >> > >That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive >insurance because they are so annoying. A ridiculous commercial is the Larry King one where he is advertising an OTC drug that made him feel so much better. He's dead. (I saw this a couple days ago). Janet US |
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On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> GM wrote: > > US Janet wrote: > >> I made chili dogs. > >> > >> I make them in a pan, side by side. > >> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > >> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > >> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > >> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > >> Simple salad to go with. > >> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > >> Janet US > > > > > > Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner. > https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...20teddy%20bear > --Bryan |
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Gary wrote:
> GM wrote: > > US Janet wrote: > > > I made chili dogs. > > > > > > I make them in a pan, side by side. > > > Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > > > mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of > > > the mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon > > > chili down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > > > Simple salad to go with. > > > dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > > > Janet US > > > > > > Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > > From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner. Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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US Janet wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:50:38 -0400, jmcquown > > wrote: > > > On 5/11/2021 7:18 PM, wrote: > >> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: > > > > > >>> I made chili dogs. > > > > > >>> Janet US > > > > > >> I think it will be grilled cheese sandwiches here. > >> > > I wanted quick fix, too, so I'm cooking another cheeseburger. 1/3 > > lb. ground chuck burger, rather thick, seasoned with coarsely > > ground S&P and a little garlic powder. A dash of Worcestershire > > sauce. Swiss cheese and a couple of slices of crispy bacon, served > > on a lightly toasted whole wheat bun. > > > > Jill > > that sounds good. You've made it quick and easy, though, haven't you? > You cook your bacon ahead and freeze it, right? > I've got to get back into the habit of cooking the bacon and freezing > it, it makes things so much more do-able. > Janet US Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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US Janet wrote:
> > I made chili dogs. > > I make them in a pan, side by side. > Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > Simple salad to go with. > dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > Janet US Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: > > GM wrote: > > > US Janet wrote: > > > > I made chili dogs. > > > > > > > > I make them in a pan, side by side. > > > > Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some > > > > yellow mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion > > > > on to of the mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion > > > > and spoon chili down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 > > > > minutes at 350F Simple salad to go with. > > > > dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > > > > Janet US > > > > > > > > > Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > > > > From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.Â* > > > > > > > > > > That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive > insurance because they are so annoying. Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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US Janet wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2021 12:04:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > > On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: > >> GM wrote: > >>> US Janet wrote: > >>>> I made chili dogs. > > > > > > >>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. > >>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > >>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to > of the >>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and > spoon chili >>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes > at 350F >>>> Simple salad to go with. > >>>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > >>>> Janet US > > > > > > > > > >>> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... > >> > >> From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.* > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive > > insurance because they are so annoying. > > A ridiculous commercial is the Larry King one where he is advertising > an OTC drug that made him feel so much better. He's dead. (I saw this > a couple days ago). > Janet US Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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Roy MacDonalds wrote:
> US Janet wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:50:38 -0400, jmcquown > > > wrote: > > > > > On 5/11/2021 7:18 PM, wrote: > > >> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: > > > > > > > >>> I made chili dogs. > > > > > > > >>> Janet US > > > > > > > >> I think it will be grilled cheese sandwiches here. > > >> > > > I wanted quick fix, too, so I'm cooking another cheeseburger. 1/3 > > > lb. ground chuck burger, rather thick, seasoned with coarsely > > > ground S&P and a little garlic powder. A dash of Worcestershire > > > sauce. Swiss cheese and a couple of slices of crispy bacon, > > > served on a lightly toasted whole wheat bun. > > > > > > Jill > > > > that sounds good. You've made it quick and easy, though, haven't > > you? You cook your bacon ahead and freeze it, right? > > I've got to get back into the habit of cooking the bacon and > > freezing it, it makes things so much more do-able. > > Janet US > > Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you." -- The real Roy MacDonalds posts with uni-berly.de - individual.net |
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On 5/11/2021 10:41 PM, US Janet wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:50:38 -0400, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> On 5/11/2021 7:18 PM, wrote: >>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:53:21 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote: >>>> >>>> I made chili dogs. >>>> >>>> Janet US >>>> >>> I think it will be grilled cheese sandwiches here. >>> >> I wanted quick fix, too, so I'm cooking another cheeseburger. 1/3 lb. >> ground chuck burger, rather thick, seasoned with coarsely ground S&P and >> a little garlic powder. A dash of Worcestershire sauce. Swiss cheese >> and a couple of slices of crispy bacon, served on a lightly toasted >> whole wheat bun. >> >> Jill > > that sounds good. You've made it quick and easy, though, haven't you? > You cook your bacon ahead and freeze it, right? > I've got to get back into the habit of cooking the bacon and freezing > it, it makes things so much more do-able. > Janet US > Yes! I *bake* a pound of bacon at a time on a slotted broiler pan lined with foil for easy cleanup, portion it out and freeze it. I also keep a couple of packages of pre-cooked shelf-stable bacon in the pantry in case I suddenly find - ooops, I want bacon but there isn't any in the freezer! A couple of slices zapped in the microwave and it gets crisp. Note: Mostly the pre-cooked bacon is part of my "in case of extended power outage" food stash. Jill |
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On 5/12/2021 12:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: >> GM wrote: >>> US Janet wrote: >>>> I made chili dogs. >>>> >>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>> Simple salad to go with. >>>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> >>> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... >> >> Â*From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner.Â* >> >> >> >> > > That is the dumbest commercial on TV.Â* I'd never buy Progressive > insurance because they are so annoying. The telling part is you don't know what company the ad is actually for. Jill |
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On 2021-05-12 5:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/12/2021 12:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> O >> That is the dumbest commercial on TV.Â* I'd never buy Progressive >> insurance because they are so annoying. > > The telling part is you don't know what company the ad is actually for. > I have been impressed with the new Ikea ad, but, as good as it is, it doesn't do anything to change my attitude about them charging $5 for curb side pick up during the pandemic shut down. I have been doing lots of online ordering with curbside pickup and never had to pay extra. I guess it should not be surprising, considering their outrageous delivery charges. They had a satellite store in the city where my son lives and he had wanted to order some stuff. I can understand them charging to delivery a house, but they wanted $75 to deliver it to the store where he would have to pick it up. |
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 17:51:56 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2021-05-12 5:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >> On 5/12/2021 12:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> O >>> That is the dumbest commercial on TV.* I'd never buy Progressive >>> insurance because they are so annoying. >> >> The telling part is you don't know what company the ad is actually for. >> > > >I have been impressed with the new Ikea ad, but, as good as it is, it >doesn't do anything to change my attitude about them charging $5 for >curb side pick up during the pandemic shut down. I have been doing lots >of online ordering with curbside pickup and never had to pay extra. I >guess it should not be surprising, considering their outrageous delivery >charges. They had a satellite store in the city where my son lives and >he had wanted to order some stuff. I can understand them charging to >delivery a house, but they wanted $75 to deliver it to the store where >he would have to pick it up. I watched a brilliant doc on Netflix, the series was called Broken and I think it was the second episode, on furniture. I'd never buy anything from Ikea now, starting from when a Swedish Nazi (their words not mine) founded it and he made plenty of effort to conceal that! They opened one of their first NA stores here in Dartmouth. It was very popular and busy, even on Mondays. Suddenly, claiming it wasn't making money they closed it. My cousins wife in Vancouver worked for them because she was Swedish and I asked her why they really left. She looked into it and got back to me to say they wanted to open in Connecticut and in the meantime felt they would close the Dartmouth store. So from then, way back in the mid 70s, I knew they were liars. They have re-opened here now a couple of years ago, but I haven't been to look. |
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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2021 17:51:56 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > >On 2021-05-12 5:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote: > >> On 5/12/2021 12:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >>> O > >>> That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive > >>> insurance because they are so annoying. > >> > >> The telling part is you don't know what company the ad is actually for.. > >> > > > > > >I have been impressed with the new Ikea ad, but, as good as it is, it > >doesn't do anything to change my attitude about them charging $5 for > >curb side pick up during the pandemic shut down. I have been doing lots > >of online ordering with curbside pickup and never had to pay extra. I > >guess it should not be surprising, considering their outrageous delivery > >charges. They had a satellite store in the city where my son lives and > >he had wanted to order some stuff. I can understand them charging to > >delivery a house, but they wanted $75 to deliver it to the store where > >he would have to pick it up. > I watched a brilliant doc on Netflix, the series was called Broken and > I think it was the second episode, on furniture. I'd never buy > anything from Ikea now, starting from when a Swedish Nazi (their words > not mine) founded it and he made plenty of effort to conceal that! > > They opened one of their first NA stores here in Dartmouth. It was > very popular and busy, even on Mondays. Suddenly, claiming it wasn't > making money they closed it. My cousins wife in Vancouver worked for > them because she was Swedish and I asked her why they really left. She > looked into it and got back to me to say they wanted to open in > Connecticut and in the meantime felt they would close the Dartmouth > store. So from then, way back in the mid 70s, I knew they were liars. > > They have re-opened here now a couple of years ago, but I haven't been > to look. I would never buy anything from them, it's just pretty ordinary stuff, and not sturdily built at that... Another reason I'd disdain them is that they used East German political prison labour* to build their crap; Ikea was not alone, many West German companies were complicit: [* an East German friend of mine attempted to escape in 1984 and was imprisoned...] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...8AF0ZT20121116 NOVEMBER 16, 2012 IKEA apologizes for use of East German prison labor "BERLIN (Reuters) - IKEA apologized on Friday for using the forced labor of political prisoners in communist East Germany to make some of its furniture during the 1980s. Victims of the German Democratic Republics (GDR) Stasi secret police watched as a senior executive of the Swedish giant acknowledged for the first time that it had failed to act when rumors of prison labor emerged. €œDespite IKEAs attempts in the 1980s to prevent the use of political prisoners in making its products in the GDR, political prisoners were used. As the representative of IKEA in Germany, I offer my deepest regrets to the victims,€ said Peter Betzel, the companys country manager. Embarrassed by media reports IKEA, the worlds largest furniture retailer, launched an internal investigation a year ago into whether it had used forced labor in the GDR until the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. It handed the investigation to auditors Ernst & Young in May to ensure greater objectivity. The presentation of the report took place a few meters from Checkpoint Charlie, one of the landmarks of the division of Berlin during the Cold War, where former Stasi prisoners said they hoped the study would lead to financial compensation. €œIts not about getting compensation just from IKEA but from all the companies who played a role in this,€ said 62-year-old Rainer Wagner. IKEA did not touch on the issue of compensation although it said it would consider funding further research into the whole issue of forced labor. Wagner was jailed after attempting to flee the GDR in 1966 and was forced to work in a factory producing gas meters. Some of the firms involved were privatized after reunification, he said. CHEAP LABOUR Other former prisoners told of being thrown into isolation cells and fed on punishment rations for failing to reach productivity targets at factories working for Western companies, including IKEA and other household names. Thousands of firms from then-West Germany and other Western countries subcontracted production to state-controlled firms behind the Iron Curtain, attracted by the low labor costs. IKEAs investigation was prompted by Swedish and German news media reports that included interviews with former Stasi prison inmates. Some reports said there was evidence of the use of forced labor as early as 1984. The auditors deployed forensic investigators, compliance experts, historians and journalists to study tens of thousands of documents from Stasi and IKEA company archives, and interviewed hundreds of IKEA staff and former GDR prisoners. The investigators also looked into media reports that IKEA had produced furniture in communist Cuba using the forced labor of political prisoners. But they found this affected only a sample of sofas, which did not meet IKEAs quality standards. The head of the present-day German federal authority charged with curating the Stasis archives and investigating its crimes, Roland Jahn, said it was yet to be seen whether IKEAs probe went far enough. IKEA has 338 stores in 40 countries. Founder Ingvar Kamprad, an 86-year-old billionaire who lives in Switzerland, still controls the group with his family and is no stranger to controversy, having been involved with a Swedish fascist group in the 1940s. IKEA got into hot water this year for spying on employees in France and air-brushing women out of catalogues meant for Saudi Arabia..." </> |
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:18:20 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote: > Lucretia Borgia wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 May 2021 17:51:56 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> >On 2021-05-12 5:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >> >> On 5/12/2021 12:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >>> O >> >>> That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive >> >>> insurance because they are so annoying. >> >> >> >> The telling part is you don't know what company the ad is actually for. >> >> >> > >> > >> >I have been impressed with the new Ikea ad, but, as good as it is, it >> >doesn't do anything to change my attitude about them charging $5 for >> >curb side pick up during the pandemic shut down. I have been doing lots >> >of online ordering with curbside pickup and never had to pay extra. I >> >guess it should not be surprising, considering their outrageous delivery >> >charges. They had a satellite store in the city where my son lives and >> >he had wanted to order some stuff. I can understand them charging to >> >delivery a house, but they wanted $75 to deliver it to the store where >> >he would have to pick it up. >> I watched a brilliant doc on Netflix, the series was called Broken and >> I think it was the second episode, on furniture. I'd never buy >> anything from Ikea now, starting from when a Swedish Nazi (their words >> not mine) founded it and he made plenty of effort to conceal that! >> >> They opened one of their first NA stores here in Dartmouth. It was >> very popular and busy, even on Mondays. Suddenly, claiming it wasn't >> making money they closed it. My cousins wife in Vancouver worked for >> them because she was Swedish and I asked her why they really left. She >> looked into it and got back to me to say they wanted to open in >> Connecticut and in the meantime felt they would close the Dartmouth >> store. So from then, way back in the mid 70s, I knew they were liars. >> >> They have re-opened here now a couple of years ago, but I haven't been >> to look. > > >I would never buy anything from them, it's just pretty ordinary stuff, and not sturdily built at that... > >Another reason I'd disdain them is that they used East German political prison labour* to build their crap; Ikea was not alone, many West German companies were complicit: > >[* an East German friend of mine attempted to escape in 1984 and was imprisoned...] > >https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...8AF0ZT20121116 > >NOVEMBER 16, 2012 > >IKEA apologizes for use of East German prison labor > >"BERLIN (Reuters) - IKEA apologized on Friday for using the forced labor of political prisoners in communist East Germany to make some of its furniture during the 1980s. > >Victims of the German Democratic Republic’s (GDR) Stasi secret police watched as a senior executive of the Swedish giant acknowledged for the first time that it had failed to act when rumors of prison labor emerged. > >“Despite IKEA’s attempts in the 1980s to prevent the use of political prisoners in making its products in the GDR, political prisoners were used. As the representative of IKEA in Germany, I offer my deepest regrets to the victims,” said Peter Betzel, the company’s country manager. > >Embarrassed by media reports IKEA, the world’s largest furniture retailer, launched an internal investigation a year ago into whether it had used forced labor in the GDR until the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. > >It handed the investigation to auditors Ernst & Young in May to ensure greater objectivity. > >The presentation of the report took place a few meters from Checkpoint Charlie, one of the landmarks of the division of Berlin during the Cold War, where former Stasi prisoners said they hoped the study would lead to financial compensation. > >“It’s not about getting compensation just from IKEA but from all the companies who played a role in this,” said 62-year-old Rainer Wagner. IKEA did not touch on the issue of compensation although it said it would consider funding further research into the whole issue of forced labor. > >Wagner was jailed after attempting to flee the GDR in 1966 and was forced to work in a factory producing gas meters. Some of the firms involved were privatized after reunification, he said. > >CHEAP LABOUR > >Other former prisoners told of being thrown into isolation cells and fed on punishment rations for failing to reach productivity targets at factories working for Western companies, including IKEA and other household names. > >Thousands of firms from then-West Germany and other Western countries subcontracted production to state-controlled firms behind the Iron Curtain, attracted by the low labor costs. > >IKEA’s investigation was prompted by Swedish and German news media reports that included interviews with former Stasi prison inmates. Some reports said there was evidence of the use of forced labor as early as 1984. > >The auditors deployed forensic investigators, compliance experts, historians and journalists to study tens of thousands of documents from Stasi and IKEA company archives, and interviewed hundreds of IKEA staff and former GDR prisoners. > >The investigators also looked into media reports that IKEA had produced furniture in communist Cuba using the forced labor of political prisoners. But they found this affected only a sample of sofas, which did not meet IKEA’s quality standards. > >The head of the present-day German federal authority charged with curating the Stasi’s archives and investigating its crimes, Roland Jahn, said it was yet to be seen whether IKEA’s probe went far enough. > >IKEA has 338 stores in 40 countries. Founder Ingvar Kamprad, an 86-year-old billionaire who lives in Switzerland, still controls the group with his family and is no stranger to controversy, having been involved with a Swedish fascist group in the 1940s. > >IKEA got into hot water this year for spying on employees in France and air-brushing women out of catalogues meant for Saudi Arabia..." > ></> Interesting and adding to that, it doesn't even mention their practices for getting wood for their products. Lots of clear cutting of old wood forests all over the world to produce poor products  |
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On 5/12/2021 12:45 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: >>> GM wrote: >>>> US Janet wrote: >>>>> I made chili dogs. >>>>> >>>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>>> Simple salad to go with. >>>>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >>>>> Janet US >>>> >>>> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... >>> >>> From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner. >>> >> That is the dumbest commercial on TV. I'd never buy Progressive >> insurance because they are so annoying. > > I thought Wendy's had the dumbest commercial back in the '80s. There was an elderly guy who was a farmer and he said he had tomatoes and he reached into his pocket and put little cinnamon candies on the table saying that they were shrunken tomatoes. (If I remember correctly). > Those Joe Namath medicare commercials annoy me. |
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On 5/12/2021 1:50 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >> GM wrote: >>> US Janet wrote: >>>> I made chili dogs. >>>> >>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>> Simple salad to go with. >>>> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> >>> Sounds fun...turkey and swiss sammiches here... >> From a local street vendor, I had a "wet teddy bear" for dinner. >> > https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...20teddy%20bear Like you and John on that naked kayak trip? |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:16:45 -0400, gary > wrote:
>On 5/12/2021 12:45 PM, bruce bowser wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: >>>> GM wrote: >>>>> US Janet wrote: >>>>>> I made chili dogs. >>>>>> >>>>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>>>> Janet US At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii snipped off. I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 11:33:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote: >On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:16:45 -0400, gary > wrote: > >>On 5/12/2021 12:45 PM, bruce bowser wrote: >>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: >>>>> GM wrote: >>>>>> US Janet wrote: >>>>>>> I made chili dogs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>>>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>>>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>>>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>>>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>>>>> Janet US > >At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii >snipped off. >I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they >cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like >chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. did you read all the instructions? The tube steaks are surrounded by bun, chili, cheese and ketchup and mustard. Believe me, it takes that long to get heat through to the weiners. Never mind your TIAD. Chili and dogs are served together all the way from Coney Island to the West Coast. Janet US |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:53:14 -0600, US Janet wrote:
> I made chili dogs. > > I make them in a pan, side by side. > Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > Simple salad to go with. > dinner is ready in 20 minutes. > Janet US I had Chili dogs last night, too. I broil them in the toaster oven, toppped with hot dog chili sauce, mild cheddar, and red onion. The brand of chili dog sauce I used wasn't very good (Hill Country Fare). I usually buy Nalley's/AusxTex/Castleberrys/IforgetWhatTheyCallItNowAfterTheyKilledSomePeople. -sw |
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:16:45 -0400, gary > wrote: > >> On 5/12/2021 12:45 PM, bruce bowser wrote: >>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: >>>>> GM wrote: >>>>>> US Janet wrote: >>>>>>> I made chili dogs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. >>>>>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >>>>>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >>>>>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >>>>>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >>>>>>> Janet US > > At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii > snipped off. Popeye, why do yoose always have diks on yoose mind? |
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On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 12:12:54 PM UTC-4, US Janet wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2021 11:33:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin > > wrote: > >On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:16:45 -0400, gary > wrote: > > > >>On 5/12/2021 12:45 PM, bruce bowser wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >>>> On 5/12/2021 8:25 AM, Gary wrote: > >>>>> GM wrote: > >>>>>> US Janet wrote: > >>>>>>> I made chili dogs. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I make them in a pan, side by side. > >>>>>>> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow > >>>>>>> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the > >>>>>>> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili > >>>>>>> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F > >>>>>>> Janet US > > > >At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii > >snipped off. > >I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they > >cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like > >chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. > did you read all the instructions? The tube steaks are surrounded by > bun, chili, cheese and ketchup and mustard. Believe me, it takes > that long to get heat through to the weiners. > Never mind your TIAD. Chili and dogs are served together all the way > from Coney Island to the West Coast. And with the advent of the net, probably from Coney Island past Britain, Italy and Russia, past China and Hawai'i all the way back to the west coast, too. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 11:33:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii > snipped off. > I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they > cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like > chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. Bullshit. You've said plenty of times - you practically brag about it - that you boil the shit out of them, up to an hour, so they give up some of their salt, nitrites, and fat. TIAD! -sw |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 11:43:11 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:53:14 -0600, US Janet wrote: > >> I made chili dogs. >> >> I make them in a pan, side by side. >> Lay the rolls out in the pan, side by side., squiggle some yellow >> mustard and ketchup down the rolls. Sprinkle diced onion on to of the >> mustard/ketchup. Drop heated wieners on the onion and spoon chili >> down over all. Pop into the oven for 20-30 minutes at 350F >> Simple salad to go with. >> dinner is ready in 20 minutes. >> Janet US > >I had Chili dogs last night, too. I broil them in the toaster oven, >toppped with hot dog chili sauce, mild cheddar, and red onion. > >The brand of chili dog sauce I used wasn't very good (Hill Country >Fare). I usually buy >Nalley's/AusxTex/Castleberrys/IforgetWhatTheyCallItNowAfterTheyKilledSomePeople. > >-sw I use Nallley's too. I use the Costco hot dogs. and sometimes Costco long buns but I prefer the Albertsons bakery buns as they are firmer. Janet US |
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On 5/13/2021 11:33 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii > snipped off. > I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they > cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like > chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. > Why are vaginas like hotdogs? Because when you think about what goes into them, you want to quit eating them. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 12:36:50 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 13 May 2021 11:33:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote: > >> At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii >> snipped off. >> I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they >> cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like >> chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. > >Bullshit. You've said plenty of times - you practically brag about >it - that you boil the shit out of them, up to an hour, so they give >up some of their salt, nitrites, and fat. >-sw Simmer. No boiling. Start in cold tap water, bring to barely asimmer. About the only food I boil is pasta. Ronzoni medium shells last night, boiled 11 minutes, then finished by simmering in tomato sauce. Used to boil rice, but eat so little rice I don't count it as a food anymore, now rice is a cell phone drier. Gave up boiling corn years ago, now nuked in their husks... we like corn however we rarely eat any, too much work flossing. Craisins are another snack food that're a bitch to floss... Crystal Palace needs no flossing. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 12:36:50 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 13 May 2021 11:33:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote: > >> At 350F for 30 minutes those tube steak will look like what the rabbii >> snipped off. >> I pan fry my tube steak with low heat while rolling them about so they >> cook evenly. I have mine with Guldens spicy brown and kraut. I like >> chili and I like tube steak but the two together is TIAD. > >Bullshit. You've said plenty of times - you practically brag about >it - that you boil the shit out of them, up to an hour, so they give >up some of their salt, nitrites, and fat. > >TIAD! > >-sw You failed reading comprehension. |
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