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I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed
to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you encoutered this before? I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
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Steve Lee wrote:
> I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. Use proper refrigeration? |
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Steve Lee wrote:
> I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. Use proper refrigeration? |
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![]() "Steve Lee" > wrote in message ... >I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a stronger smell about it !! If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a marinade until the next day only.... Bigbazza |
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![]() "Steve Lee" > wrote in message ... >I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a stronger smell about it !! If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a marinade until the next day only.... Bigbazza |
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Bigbazza wrote:
> "Steve Lee" > wrote in message=20 > ... >=20 >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? Yes. It's the smell of pork. >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat.=20 Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling=20 outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother.=20 It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder=20 meats like rabbit or alligator. > Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a= day=20 > or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it whi= lst=20 > cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a stronge= r=20 > smell about it !! >=20 > If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a=20 > marinade until the next day only.... This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last=20 up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut=20 pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30=B0F range will last four or=20 five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut=20 meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. Pastorio |
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Bigbazza wrote:
> "Steve Lee" > wrote in message=20 > ... >=20 >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? Yes. It's the smell of pork. >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat.=20 Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling=20 outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother.=20 It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder=20 meats like rabbit or alligator. > Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a= day=20 > or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it whi= lst=20 > cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a stronge= r=20 > smell about it !! >=20 > If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a=20 > marinade until the next day only.... This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last=20 up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut=20 pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30=B0F range will last four or=20 five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut=20 meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. Pastorio |
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![]() "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message ... Bigbazza wrote: > "Steve Lee" > wrote in message > ... > >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? Yes. It's the smell of pork. >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat. Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother. It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder meats like rabbit or alligator. > Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a > day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it > whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a > stronger smell about it !! > > If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a > marinade until the next day only.... This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30°F range will last four or five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. Pastorio Well....Good advice or not...It works well with me !!....I have been cooking food and handling it now for nearly 60 years !!.. Bigbazza |
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![]() "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message ... Bigbazza wrote: > "Steve Lee" > wrote in message > ... > >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? Yes. It's the smell of pork. >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat. Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother. It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder meats like rabbit or alligator. > Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a > day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it > whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a > stronger smell about it !! > > If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a > marinade until the next day only.... This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30°F range will last four or five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. Pastorio Well....Good advice or not...It works well with me !!....I have been cooking food and handling it now for nearly 60 years !!.. Bigbazza |
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Bigbazza wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message=20 > ... > Bigbazza wrote: >=20 >>"Steve Lee" > wrote in message=20 . .. >> >>>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed= >>>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >>> >>>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>>encoutered this before? >=20 > Yes. It's the smell of pork. >=20 >>>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >>> >>>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>>courtesy. >=20 > This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat. > Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling > outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother. > It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder > meats like rabbit or alligator. >=20 >>Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a= =20 >>day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it= =20 >>whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a = >>stronger smell about it !! >> >>If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a=20 >>marinade until the next day only.... >=20 > This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last > up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut > pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30=B0F range will last four or > five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut > meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. >=20 > Pastorio >=20 > Well....Good advice or not...It works well with me !!....I have been co= oking=20 > food and handling it now for nearly 60 years !!.. I'm happy for you. Except for that "I have to be right" part. I had my first restaurant job in 1953. We did things differently than=20 you do, it would seem. The other different thing we did and I've=20 always done is to read about food science while taking professional=20 training. Your advice is like telling somebody they have to consume that milk on=20 the first day they buy it. No real reason, just "It works well with=20 me" no matter what. Pastorio |
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Bigbazza wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message=20 > ... > Bigbazza wrote: >=20 >>"Steve Lee" > wrote in message=20 . .. >> >>>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed= >>>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >>> >>>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>>encoutered this before? >=20 > Yes. It's the smell of pork. >=20 >>>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >>> >>>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>>courtesy. >=20 > This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat. > Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling > outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother. > It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder > meats like rabbit or alligator. >=20 >>Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a= =20 >>day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it= =20 >>whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a = >>stronger smell about it !! >> >>If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a=20 >>marinade until the next day only.... >=20 > This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last > up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut > pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30=B0F range will last four or > five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut > meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. >=20 > Pastorio >=20 > Well....Good advice or not...It works well with me !!....I have been co= oking=20 > food and handling it now for nearly 60 years !!.. I'm happy for you. Except for that "I have to be right" part. I had my first restaurant job in 1953. We did things differently than=20 you do, it would seem. The other different thing we did and I've=20 always done is to read about food science while taking professional=20 training. Your advice is like telling somebody they have to consume that milk on=20 the first day they buy it. No real reason, just "It works well with=20 me" no matter what. Pastorio |
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![]() "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message ... Bigbazza wrote: > "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message > ... > Bigbazza wrote: > >>"Steve Lee" > wrote in message . .. >> >>>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >>> >>>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>>encoutered this before? > > Yes. It's the smell of pork. > >>>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >>> >>>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>>courtesy. > > This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat. > Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling > outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother. > It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder > meats like rabbit or alligator. > >>Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a >>day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it >>whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a >>stronger smell about it !! >> >>If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a >>marinade until the next day only.... > > This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last > up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut > pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30°F range will last four or > five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut > meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. > > Pastorio > > Well....Good advice or not...It works well with me !!....I have been > cooking food and handling it now for nearly 60 years !!.. I'm happy for you. Except for that "I have to be right" part. I had my first restaurant job in 1953. We did things differently than you do, it would seem. The other different thing we did and I've always done is to read about food science while taking professional training. Your advice is like telling somebody they have to consume that milk on the first day they buy it. No real reason, just "It works well with me" no matter what. Pastorio I also will mention...I am an Idustrial Scientist as well.....I know food very well...Just thought I would mention it along the way...LOL.....Now I also must take 'exception' with your .."I have to be right " part.... I said ...That 'WORKS" for me !!...Not that I have to be 'Always Right' bit...Anyway...You show off your 'Credentials' and I won't 'normally' show off mine...OK....I was just giving a little advice as I MYSELF find that 'WORKS FOR ME"...Get it !!..I don't have to run into an 'Augument' by giving what 'Works for me...now DO I !!....This is not a 'Science' Graduate course we have going here !! IS It ?? It is a home 'Cookery' group... Bigbazza |
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![]() "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message ... Bigbazza wrote: > "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message > ... > Bigbazza wrote: > >>"Steve Lee" > wrote in message . .. >> >>>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >>> >>>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>>encoutered this before? > > Yes. It's the smell of pork. > >>>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >>> >>>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>>courtesy. > > This is totally subjective issue. That smell is the smell of the meat. > Nothing much to do about it. Heavy seasoning, smoking, grilling > outdoors and other such remedies can mask the scent, but why bother. > It sounds like you don't like pork. Don't eat pork. Try some milder > meats like rabbit or alligator. > >>Like Bob say's 'Refrigeration'....If you leave the pork longer than a >>day or so..It will develop that 'smell' about it and you will notice it >>whilst cooking it then!!...It's not necessarily 'off'...but develops a >>stronger smell about it !! >> >>If buying 'Pork' to use longer than a day...'Freeze ' it or put in a >>marinade until the next day only.... > > This is not good advice. Too sweeping. Pork in cryopackaging will last > up to 45 days from pack date without any problems. Most freshly cut > pork stored at a fridge temp in the mid-30°F range will last four or > five days before any spoilage scents begin to emerge. That's why cut > meats have sell-by dates on them that are more than a day away. > > Pastorio > > Well....Good advice or not...It works well with me !!....I have been > cooking food and handling it now for nearly 60 years !!.. I'm happy for you. Except for that "I have to be right" part. I had my first restaurant job in 1953. We did things differently than you do, it would seem. The other different thing we did and I've always done is to read about food science while taking professional training. Your advice is like telling somebody they have to consume that milk on the first day they buy it. No real reason, just "It works well with me" no matter what. Pastorio I also will mention...I am an Idustrial Scientist as well.....I know food very well...Just thought I would mention it along the way...LOL.....Now I also must take 'exception' with your .."I have to be right " part.... I said ...That 'WORKS" for me !!...Not that I have to be 'Always Right' bit...Anyway...You show off your 'Credentials' and I won't 'normally' show off mine...OK....I was just giving a little advice as I MYSELF find that 'WORKS FOR ME"...Get it !!..I don't have to run into an 'Augument' by giving what 'Works for me...now DO I !!....This is not a 'Science' Graduate course we have going here !! IS It ?? It is a home 'Cookery' group... Bigbazza |
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Steve Lee > wrote: > I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. I know what you mean... I tend to run into this problem when I make shoulder roasts. I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs before roasting. That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) Just my 2 cents! -- K. |
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Steve Lee > wrote: > I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. I know what you mean... I tend to run into this problem when I make shoulder roasts. I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs before roasting. That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) Just my 2 cents! -- K. |
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Steve Lee > wrote:
>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > >Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >encoutered this before? > > >I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > >Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >courtesy. You are probably a person who is more sensitive to what is called ‘boar taint’. In some pig farming operations, male pigs are not castrated and the meat from some entire male pigs has an unpleasant taint or odour. The difficulty lies in determining which meat is from an entire boar and which from a gilt, when it is on display in the butcher's case. Ross. To email, remove the "obvious" from my address. |
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Steve Lee > wrote:
>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > >Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >encoutered this before? > > >I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > >Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >courtesy. You are probably a person who is more sensitive to what is called ‘boar taint’. In some pig farming operations, male pigs are not castrated and the meat from some entire male pigs has an unpleasant taint or odour. The difficulty lies in determining which meat is from an entire boar and which from a gilt, when it is on display in the butcher's case. Ross. To email, remove the "obvious" from my address. |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:26:18 -0000, Bubbabob
> wrote: >Steve Lee > wrote: > >> I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >> to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >> Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >> describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >> cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >> you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >> handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >> encoutered this before? >> >> > >No. Never. At least it doesn't taste like chicken. |
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Steve Lee wrote:
> > I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > > Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > encoutered this before? > > I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > > Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > courtesy. Sounds like my serious aversion to the smell of raw chicken in the microwave. Smells like peanut butter. Funny thing, I don't mind the smell of peanut butter unless it's chicken. It's forbidden in this house, I can tell you that. nancy |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:50:03 -0500, " BOB" > wrote:
>Steve Lee wrote: >> I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >> to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >> Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >> describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >> cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >> you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >> handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >> encoutered this before? >> >> >> I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >> this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >> something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >> Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >> strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >> courtesy. > >Use proper refrigeration? Oh, I do though. I keep a thermometer in my fridgerator and it's usually kept right around 2C - 3C (35F - 37F). I also cook the pork the day I buy it or the very next day. Never longer than that with pork, even with strict and proper refrigeration. |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:35:17 -0600, Katra
> wrote: >In article >, > Steve Lee > wrote: > >> I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >> to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >> Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >> describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >> cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >> you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >> handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >> encoutered this before? >> >> >> I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >> this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >> something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >> Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >> strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >> courtesy. > >I know what you mean... >I tend to run into this problem when I make shoulder roasts. > >I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the >slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs before >roasting. > >That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the >roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. > >The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) > >Just my 2 cents! Thanks for your input, Katra. Really appreciate it. I think I'll try to use more garlic and see what happens from now on. |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:38:03 -0500, Ross Reid >
wrote: >Steve Lee > wrote: > >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? >> >> >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. > >You are probably a person who is more sensitive to what is called >‘boar taint’. >In some pig farming operations, male pigs are not castrated and the >meat from some entire male pigs has an unpleasant taint or odour. >The difficulty lies in determining which meat is from an entire boar >and which from a gilt, when it is on display in the butcher's case. >Ross. Thanks for this explanation, Ross. It's always nice to get the nitty gritty explanation behind these things. Very Alton Brownish :-) I'll talk to the butchers at the meatshops I patronize and see if they have any info for me on this. Thanks again. |
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In article >,
Steve Lee > wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:35:17 -0600, Katra > > wrote: > > >In article >, > > Steve Lee > wrote: > > > >> I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed > >> to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. > >> > >> Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only > >> describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the > >> cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and > >> you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't > >> handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you > >> encoutered this before? > >> > >> > >> I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter > >> this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's > >> something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. > >> > >> Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too > >> strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and > >> courtesy. > > > >I know what you mean... > >I tend to run into this problem when I make shoulder roasts. > > > >I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the > >slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs before > >roasting. > > > >That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the > >roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. > > > >The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) > > > >Just my 2 cents! > > Thanks for your input, Katra. Really appreciate it. I think I'll try > to use more garlic and see what happens from now on. Welcome!!! :-) At the beef prices nowadays, pork is a good alternative and it's easier for dad to eat since he has bad teeth and refuses to go to a dentist even tho' I've offered to pay for it! <sigh> A neat trick with herb toppings for roasts is to use a moist veggie on top. If the herbs are kept moist, the flavor will also soak into the stabs. I layer rosemary, basil and thyme over the top, then lay bok choy leaves over that. The bok choy keeps the herbs from drying out during roasting. For pork chops and stuff fried or pan broiled, I use a liberal amount of olive oil, then flavor with salt free lemon pepper, garlic powder and onion powder, and lately, shitake mushroom powder that I make myself from dehydrated/dried shitakes from the thai store. ;-d If I am grilling, I marinate the chops ahead of time in my current mood/choice of wishbone salad dressings. Italian or honey dijon work well. I generally will start the marinating the night before so they soak for a good 12 to 16 hours at 40 degrees F. Grill over mesquite coals. Happy cooking!!! -- K. Sprout the MungBean to reply "I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain |
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in article , Katra at
wrote on 11/27/04 9:35 AM: > I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the > slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs before > roasting. > > That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the > roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. > > The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) > > Just my 2 cents! I just bought a 3.5 lb half a pork shoulder (it says "picnic") @ 79 cents a pound. I knew I wanted to roast it, after marinading it in mojo (it's from a bottle....Badia brand. A fine purveyor of Caribbean seasonings based in Miami, available at my local supermarket), but I will do that garlic thing, too. Lots of garlic. Lots of black pepper. The mojo...and let it sit overnight. Then, I'll pat it dry and rub it all over with mexican oregano, rosemary, chili powder mixed with a little bit of ground chipotle for kick.... and roast that baby for....that's my question! How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? |
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Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> in article , > Katra at wrote on 11/27/04 9:35 AM: > >> I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the >> slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs >> before roasting. >> >> That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the >> roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. >> >> The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) >> >> Just my 2 cents! > > I just bought a 3.5 lb half a pork shoulder (it says "picnic") @ 79 > cents a pound. > > I knew I wanted to roast it, after marinading it in mojo (it's from a > bottle....Badia brand. A fine purveyor of Caribbean seasonings based > in Miami, available at my local supermarket), but I will do that > garlic thing, too. > > Lots of garlic. Lots of black pepper. > The mojo...and let it sit overnight. > Then, I'll pat it dry and rub it all over with mexican oregano, > rosemary, chili powder mixed with a little bit of ground chipotle for > kick.... and roast that baby for....that's my question! > > How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? Sounds good enough to eat raw but... Take a guess based on your experience and when close stick a knife to the bone. Juice runs clear? EAT! Ken. -- http://www.rupert.net/~solar Return address supplied by 'spammotel' http://www.spammotel.com |
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In article >,
Sheryl Rosen > wrote: > in article , Katra at > wrote on 11/27/04 9:35 AM: > > > I stab the roast all over now and sliver garlic cloves and slip the > > slivers of garlic into the stabs. I then top with various herbs before > > roasting. > > > > That has eliminated the "musty" porky overtone, especially once the > > roast leftovers cool and get re-sliced for later serving. > > > > The garlic pretty well eliminates it. :-) > > > > Just my 2 cents! > > I just bought a 3.5 lb half a pork shoulder (it says "picnic") @ 79 cents a > pound. > > I knew I wanted to roast it, after marinading it in mojo (it's from a > bottle....Badia brand. A fine purveyor of Caribbean seasonings based in > Miami, available at my local supermarket), but I will do that garlic thing, > too. > > Lots of garlic. Lots of black pepper. > The mojo...and let it sit overnight. > Then, I'll pat it dry and rub it all over with mexican oregano, rosemary, > chili powder mixed with a little bit of ground chipotle for kick.... and > roast that baby for....that's my question! > > How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? > That's a pretty small roast. :-) I'd try it for 30 to 45 minutes at 350, then check it for done-ness by taking a slice at it. I'm cautious as it's easy to cook a bit more if undercooked. Overcook and it's ruined. :-P One of these days, I need to invest in and learn to use a meat thermometer. That takes the guesswork out of it.... -- K. Sprout the MungBean to reply "I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain |
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Sheryl Rosen writes:
> >How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? Slow and long... 300dF, 2-3 hours ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> Sheryl Rosen writes: >> >> How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? > > Slow and long... 300dF, 2-3 hours > Might work but the taste would be akin to cardboard. -- http://www.rupert.net/~solar Return address supplied by 'spammotel' http://www.spammotel.com |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:38:18 -0500, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote: >How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? Three hours...............and check to see if it shreds easily with two forks. It should be off the bone at this point. |
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Katra wrote:
> > If I am grilling, I marinate the chops ahead of time in my current > mood/choice of wishbone salad dressings. Italian or honey dijon work > well. I generally will start the marinating the night before so they > soak for a good 12 to 16 hours at 40 degrees F. For grilling, I like to use a dry rub of salt, pepper, a little garlic powder, some oregano and finely chopped mint. Just mix it together and rub it into the chops and let them sit for an hour or two. This works best with thinly sliced chops. 2-3 minutes each side over a hot grill and they turn out tasty and tender. |
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Katra wrote:
> > If I am grilling, I marinate the chops ahead of time in my current > mood/choice of wishbone salad dressings. Italian or honey dijon work > well. I generally will start the marinating the night before so they > soak for a good 12 to 16 hours at 40 degrees F. For grilling, I like to use a dry rub of salt, pepper, a little garlic powder, some oregano and finely chopped mint. Just mix it together and rub it into the chops and let them sit for an hour or two. This works best with thinly sliced chops. 2-3 minutes each side over a hot grill and they turn out tasty and tender. |
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in article , Ida Slapter at
wrote on 11/27/04 4:15 PM: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:38:18 -0500, Sheryl Rosen > > wrote: > >> How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? > > Three hours...............and check to see if it shreds easily with > two forks. It should be off the bone at this point. > > I'm going for roast pork. Not pulled pork. That sounds like too long, especially with a dry roasting technique. I think it would dry out, shrink and burn before it would shred after that long. Now, if I were braising it, in some type of flavorful sauce/gravy, I could see 3 hours at that temp. Then it would be like pot roast. But I'm going for roasted, not braised. |
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in article , Ida Slapter at
wrote on 11/27/04 4:15 PM: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:38:18 -0500, Sheryl Rosen > > wrote: > >> How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? > > Three hours...............and check to see if it shreds easily with > two forks. It should be off the bone at this point. > > I'm going for roast pork. Not pulled pork. That sounds like too long, especially with a dry roasting technique. I think it would dry out, shrink and burn before it would shred after that long. Now, if I were braising it, in some type of flavorful sauce/gravy, I could see 3 hours at that temp. Then it would be like pot roast. But I'm going for roasted, not braised. |
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in article , Katra at
wrote on 11/27/04 3:48 PM: >> >> How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? >> > > That's a pretty small roast. :-) > I'd try it for 30 to 45 minutes at 350, then check it for done-ness by > taking a slice at it. I'm cautious as it's easy to cook a bit more if > undercooked. Overcook and it's ruined. :-P > > One of these days, I need to invest in and learn to use a meat > thermometer. That takes the guesswork out of it.... Yeah, it's a "Half" shoulder. The whole ones were in the 6-7 lb range. Too big for my little household of one human and one cat. I'm having a friend over, and so I'm looking for dinner for two, plus leftovers for at most, 3 meals. This little hunk of meat cost me less than $3. I'm hoping to get dinner for us tomorrow, plus dinner at least one more time. My plan is to have roast pork for supper Mon or Tuesday and then pick the rest apart, mix it with some bbq sauce and heat it up in the microwave for "chopped bbq" for a couple of lunch sandwiches. Might use the bone to make bean soup..... or maybe split pea. I know it's not a lot, but it's just the right size for me. |
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![]() "Ross Reid" > wrote in message ... > Steve Lee > wrote: > >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? >> >> >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. > > You are probably a person who is more sensitive to what is called > 'boar taint'. > In some pig farming operations, male pigs are not castrated and the > meat from some entire male pigs has an unpleasant taint or odour. > The difficulty lies in determining which meat is from an entire boar > and which from a gilt, when it is on display in the butcher's case. > Ross. > To email, remove the "obvious" from my address. To add a little bit to this......I 'believe' that the Chinese prefer the 'female' pig....If you go into the Chinese butchers here in Sydney..Oz..You get all the different cut's of pork...practically no fat to be seen at all !.....Whenever I have bought pork from those shops...I have always found it to be the best !...Now..I can't substantiate this 'female' thing...maybe someone else could have a little more knowledge of it ! Bigbazza |
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![]() "Ross Reid" > wrote in message ... > Steve Lee > wrote: > >>I know this sounds like an odd question and of course pork is supposed >>to smell like pork, but please bear with me on this one. >> >>Sometimes when I cook pork, I get that strong, what I can only >>describe it as being the "pork" smell. It's that smell from the >>cooked pork that's too strong to handle. Just the right amount and >>you know you're eating pork, but when it gets too strong, I can't >>handle it and it's another dinner ruined for me. Have any of you >>encoutered this before? >> >> >>I've tried different meat shops and markets, but I often encounter >>this problem in my dishes with pork and I'm wondering if there's >>something I'm doing wrong or not doing to avoid this. >> >>Do any of you have suggestions to reduce the possibility of a too >>strong porky smell in your pork dishes? Thanks for your time and >>courtesy. > > You are probably a person who is more sensitive to what is called > 'boar taint'. > In some pig farming operations, male pigs are not castrated and the > meat from some entire male pigs has an unpleasant taint or odour. > The difficulty lies in determining which meat is from an entire boar > and which from a gilt, when it is on display in the butcher's case. > Ross. > To email, remove the "obvious" from my address. To add a little bit to this......I 'believe' that the Chinese prefer the 'female' pig....If you go into the Chinese butchers here in Sydney..Oz..You get all the different cut's of pork...practically no fat to be seen at all !.....Whenever I have bought pork from those shops...I have always found it to be the best !...Now..I can't substantiate this 'female' thing...maybe someone else could have a little more knowledge of it ! Bigbazza |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:38:18 -0500, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote: > >I just bought a 3.5 lb half a pork shoulder (it says "picnic") @ 79 cents a >pound. > >I knew I wanted to roast it, after marinading it in mojo (it's from a >bottle....Badia brand. A fine purveyor of Caribbean seasonings based in >Miami, available at my local supermarket), but I will do that garlic thing, >too. > >Lots of garlic. Lots of black pepper. >The mojo...and let it sit overnight. >Then, I'll pat it dry and rub it all over with mexican oregano, rosemary, >chili powder mixed with a little bit of ground chipotle for kick.... and >roast that baby for....that's my question! > >How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? Try it at 250 for about 3 hours. Better would be to use a instant read thermometer. 160 degrees for slices, 180 to 200 for pulled pork, shred with two forks. Use the drippings for making gravy. Pan Ohco |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:38:18 -0500, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote: > >I just bought a 3.5 lb half a pork shoulder (it says "picnic") @ 79 cents a >pound. > >I knew I wanted to roast it, after marinading it in mojo (it's from a >bottle....Badia brand. A fine purveyor of Caribbean seasonings based in >Miami, available at my local supermarket), but I will do that garlic thing, >too. > >Lots of garlic. Lots of black pepper. >The mojo...and let it sit overnight. >Then, I'll pat it dry and rub it all over with mexican oregano, rosemary, >chili powder mixed with a little bit of ground chipotle for kick.... and >roast that baby for....that's my question! > >How long at 350 or 375 for a 3.5 lb pork shoulder, still on the bone? Try it at 250 for about 3 hours. Better would be to use a instant read thermometer. 160 degrees for slices, 180 to 200 for pulled pork, shred with two forks. Use the drippings for making gravy. Pan Ohco |
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Sheryl Rosen > wrote in
: > I just bought a 3.5 lb half a pork shoulder (it says "picnic") @ 79 > cents a pound. > These do well in a crockpot...just pre-Brown the meat or not and sprinkle on a pkg of onion soup powder and crockpot it for 8-10 hrs on low. You could get fancy and make a raft from say onions or sourkraut to support the roast off of the bottom of the crock too. Comes out very tender and delish. -- Starchless in Manitoba. |
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