I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in wartime
Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post it, or one like
it, again? I would like to show it to my children. Thank you so much.
Nancree

onono (Nancree) wrote in
:

> I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> Thank you so much. Nancree

Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

onono (Nancree) wrote in
:

> I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> Thank you so much. Nancree

Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

>Do you remember roughly when it was posted, Nancree? I wrote something on
>the subject some time back (probably a year or two).
>If it was a recent post, I wasn't the author.
>
>Dora
---------------------------------
It was included in a recent post, this past week. It was included in a thread
on food, I think as a reply to someone who complained about, or made fun of,
canned "SPAM". Very poignant.
I would like to read your older posting, if you still have it available.
Nancree
-------------------------------

>Do you remember roughly when it was posted, Nancree? I wrote something on
>the subject some time back (probably a year or two).
>If it was a recent post, I wasn't the author.
>
>Dora
---------------------------------
It was included in a recent post, this past week. It was included in a thread
on food, I think as a reply to someone who complained about, or made fun of,
canned "SPAM". Very poignant.
I would like to read your older posting, if you still have it available.
Nancree
-------------------------------

"Nancree" wrote in message
>
>>Do you remember roughly when it was posted, Nancree? I wrote something
>>on
>>the subject some time back (probably a year or two).
>>If it was a recent post, I wasn't the author.
>>
>>Dora
> ---------------------------------
> It was included in a recent post, this past week. It was included in a
> thread
> on food, I think as a reply to someone who complained about, or made fun
> of,
> canned "SPAM". Very poignant.
> I would like to read your older posting, if you still have it available.
> Nancree

I'm sorry I missed the post. Canned Spam kept us going in England during
WWII, when meat was almost nonexistent. We had the US to thank for the
supply.

I wouldn't know how to find my older post since it, too, was buried in
another thread. I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
interested?

Dora

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >...
> onono (Nancree) wrote in
> :
>
> > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> > it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> > Thank you so much. Nancree
>
> Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
> children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>
==================
(smile) Actually, no, but I can see why you guessed that. I believe
in keeping history alive for our children. Especially history that
has taken place in our (the parents) lifetime, which our children may
be only vaguely aware of. My children now travel to, say, London, and
know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
The expectance
of imminent invasion by German troops--the street signs of London all
taken down to confuse the invading Germans--no signs on the buses. Air
raid sirens, hundreds of bombs hitting London, children sent, by
government order, away from London to live with families in the
countryside. The long fight back to the war's end. Then, post-war
deprivation--skimpy supplies of food, fuel, transportation, clothing,
shoes. Well, that's what I think we all, including our children,
should remember. (so, no, we don't have to tell our children "you
better finish your food because children in China" etc.)
But thanks for your reply, Wayne. Regards, Nancree




Combine all ingredients. Pour into greased 1 1/2 quart casserole dish.
Bake at 350° for 50 to 55 minutes.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >...
> onono (Nancree) wrote in
> :
>
> > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> > it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> > Thank you so much. Nancree
>
> Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
> children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>

I follow Allen Sherman:
"Hail to thee, Fat Person. You kept us out of war."

Lynn from Fargo
still cleaning her plate . . . sigh!

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >...
> onono (Nancree) wrote in
> :
>
> > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> > it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> > Thank you so much. Nancree
>
> Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
> children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>

I follow Allen Sherman:
"Hail to thee, Fat Person. You kept us out of war."

Lynn from Fargo
still cleaning her plate . . . sigh!

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> onono (Nancree) wrote in
> :
>
>> I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
>> wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
>> it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
>> Thank you so much. Nancree
>
> Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food
> because
> children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>
> --
> Wayne in Phoenix

In my day it was Armenia. And my parents didn't think it was funny when I
suggested they send my leftovers to those "starving children."

Felice

(nancree) wrote in
om:

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message
> >...
>> onono (Nancree) wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
>> > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please
>> > post it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my
>> > children. Thank you so much. Nancree
>>
>> Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food
>> because children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>
> ==================
> (smile) Actually, no, but I can see why you guessed that. I believe
> in keeping history alive for our children. Especially history that
> has taken place in our (the parents) lifetime, which our children may
> be only vaguely aware of. My children now travel to, say, London, and
> know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
> it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
> The expectance
> of imminent invasion by German troops--the street signs of London all
> taken down to confuse the invading Germans--no signs on the buses. Air
> raid sirens, hundreds of bombs hitting London, children sent, by
> government order, away from London to live with families in the
> countryside. The long fight back to the war's end. Then, post-war
> deprivation--skimpy supplies of food, fuel, transportation, clothing,
> shoes. Well, that's what I think we all, including our children,
> should remember. (so, no, we don't have to tell our children "you
> better finish your food because children in China" etc.)
> But thanks for your reply, Wayne. Regards, Nancree

I was really just kidding with you, as I suspected pretty much the reason
you gave. So much of this type of history is poorly documented and rarely
taught. I think it's great that you're passing it on to your children.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

(nancree) wrote in
om:

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message
> >...
>> onono (Nancree) wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
>> > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please
>> > post it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my
>> > children. Thank you so much. Nancree
>>
>> Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food
>> because children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>
> ==================
> (smile) Actually, no, but I can see why you guessed that. I believe
> in keeping history alive for our children. Especially history that
> has taken place in our (the parents) lifetime, which our children may
> be only vaguely aware of. My children now travel to, say, London, and
> know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
> it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
> The expectance
> of imminent invasion by German troops--the street signs of London all
> taken down to confuse the invading Germans--no signs on the buses. Air
> raid sirens, hundreds of bombs hitting London, children sent, by
> government order, away from London to live with families in the
> countryside. The long fight back to the war's end. Then, post-war
> deprivation--skimpy supplies of food, fuel, transportation, clothing,
> shoes. Well, that's what I think we all, including our children,
> should remember. (so, no, we don't have to tell our children "you
> better finish your food because children in China" etc.)
> But thanks for your reply, Wayne. Regards, Nancree

I was really just kidding with you, as I suspected pretty much the reason
you gave. So much of this type of history is poorly documented and rarely
taught. I think it's great that you're passing it on to your children.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

"limey" > wrote in message >...
> "Nancree" wrote in message
> >
> >>Do you remember roughly when it was posted, Nancree? I wrote something
> >>on
> >>the subject some time back (probably a year or two).
> >>If it was a recent post, I wasn't the author.
> >>
> >>Dora
> > ---------------------------------
> > It was included in a recent post, this past week. It was included in a
> > thread
> > on food, I think as a reply to someone who complained about, or made fun
> > of,
> > canned "SPAM". Very poignant.
> > I would like to read your older posting, if you still have it available.
> > Nancree
>
> I'm sorry I missed the post. Canned Spam kept us going in England during
> WWII, when meat was almost nonexistent. We had the US to thank for the
> supply.
>
> I wouldn't know how to find my older post since it, too, was buried in
> another thread. I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
> interested?
>
> Dora

Dora wrote:
"I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
> interested?
>
> Dora
---------
Yes, Dora, we would be interested . Tell us about those memories of
wartime--and (OB)since this is a food group, do include some of that.
Nancree

"limey" > wrote in message >...
> "Nancree" wrote in message
> >
> >>Do you remember roughly when it was posted, Nancree? I wrote something
> >>on
> >>the subject some time back (probably a year or two).
> >>If it was a recent post, I wasn't the author.
> >>
> >>Dora
> > ---------------------------------
> > It was included in a recent post, this past week. It was included in a
> > thread
> > on food, I think as a reply to someone who complained about, or made fun
> > of,
> > canned "SPAM". Very poignant.
> > I would like to read your older posting, if you still have it available.
> > Nancree
>
> I'm sorry I missed the post. Canned Spam kept us going in England during
> WWII, when meat was almost nonexistent. We had the US to thank for the
> supply.
>
> I wouldn't know how to find my older post since it, too, was buried in
> another thread. I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
> interested?
>
> Dora

Dora wrote:
"I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
> interested?
>
> Dora
---------
Yes, Dora, we would be interested . Tell us about those memories of
wartime--and (OB)since this is a food group, do include some of that.
Nancree

In article >,
says...
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >...
> > onono (Nancree) wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> > > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> > > it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> > > Thank you so much. Nancree
> >
> > Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
> > children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>
> ==================
> (smile) Actually, no, but I can see why you guessed that. I believe
> in keeping history alive for our children. Especially history that
> has taken place in our (the parents) lifetime, which our children may
> be only vaguely aware of. My children now travel to, say, London, and
> know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
> it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
> The expectance
> of imminent invasion by German troops--the street signs of London all
> taken down to confuse the invading Germans--no signs on the buses. Air
> raid sirens, hundreds of bombs hitting London, children sent, by
> government order, away from London to live with families in the
> countryside. The long fight back to the war's end. Then, post-war
> deprivation--skimpy supplies of food, fuel, transportation, clothing,
> shoes. Well, that's what I think we all, including our children,
> should remember. (so, no, we don't have to tell our children "you
> better finish your food because children in China" etc.)
> But thanks for your reply, Wayne. Regards, Nancree

Don't forget military hardware. Roosevelt knew full well that the
Germans wouldn't be beat without the might of U.S. manufacturing. For a
couple of years before we entered the fray we were sending guns and
ships to the UK under the Lend-Lease program that Roosevelt had worked
out with Churchill.

Food related - how about the concept of the Victory Garden. Grow as much
of your own as you could. I recall PBS did a series of 1940's house and
the family had to build both an air-raid shelter of their own and plant
and tend their own Victory Garden.

In article >,
says...
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message >...
> > onono (Nancree) wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > I read part of your moving description of severe food shortage in
> > > wartime Britain, and could not locate it again. Would you please post
> > > it, or one like it, again? I would like to show it to my children.
> > > Thank you so much. Nancree
> >
> > Is that going to be another version of "you better finish your food because
> > children in China are starving"? <guilty grin>
> ==================
> (smile) Actually, no, but I can see why you guessed that. I believe
> in keeping history alive for our children. Especially history that
> has taken place in our (the parents) lifetime, which our children may
> be only vaguely aware of. My children now travel to, say, London, and
> know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
> it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
> The expectance
> of imminent invasion by German troops--the street signs of London all
> taken down to confuse the invading Germans--no signs on the buses. Air
> raid sirens, hundreds of bombs hitting London, children sent, by
> government order, away from London to live with families in the
> countryside. The long fight back to the war's end. Then, post-war
> deprivation--skimpy supplies of food, fuel, transportation, clothing,
> shoes. Well, that's what I think we all, including our children,
> should remember. (so, no, we don't have to tell our children "you
> better finish your food because children in China" etc.)
> But thanks for your reply, Wayne. Regards, Nancree

Don't forget military hardware. Roosevelt knew full well that the
Germans wouldn't be beat without the might of U.S. manufacturing. For a
couple of years before we entered the fray we were sending guns and
ships to the UK under the Lend-Lease program that Roosevelt had worked
out with Churchill.

Food related - how about the concept of the Victory Garden. Grow as much
of your own as you could. I recall PBS did a series of 1940's house and
the family had to build both an air-raid shelter of their own and plant
and tend their own Victory Garden.

"nancree" wrote in message >
"limey" wrote in message
>
> "I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
>> interested?
>>
>> Dora
> ---------
> Yes, Dora, we would be interested . Tell us about those memories of
> wartime--and (OB)since this is a food group, do include some of that.
> Nancree

Strange thing happened, Nancree. While going over memories of WWII in
wartime London so that I could write you, it was just as though the
floodgates had opened and everything came rushing back - the sad things, the
violent things, the incredibly brave things, the inconvenient things.

I didn't know such emotion was so buried.
Naturally, I've had thoughts of everything before but during the last few
nights those memories have really taken over.

Give me a while to settle down. I don't know how interested the rest of
r.f.c. would be - perhaps you can provide your e-mail address and I can
write you directly. If so, please reply to me at .

Dora

"nancree" wrote in message >
"limey" wrote in message
>
> "I could reconstruct some of the memories, if you're
>> interested?
>>
>> Dora
> ---------
> Yes, Dora, we would be interested . Tell us about those memories of
> wartime--and (OB)since this is a food group, do include some of that.
> Nancree

Strange thing happened, Nancree. While going over memories of WWII in
wartime London so that I could write you, it was just as though the
floodgates had opened and everything came rushing back - the sad things, the
violent things, the incredibly brave things, the inconvenient things.

I didn't know such emotion was so buried.
Naturally, I've had thoughts of everything before but during the last few
nights those memories have really taken over.

Give me a while to settle down. I don't know how interested the rest of
r.f.c. would be - perhaps you can provide your e-mail address and I can
write you directly. If so, please reply to me at .

Dora

On 27 Nov 2004 20:30:05 -0800, (nancree) wrote:

<snip>

> My children now travel to, say, London, and
>know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
>it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.

<snip>

The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.

Highly recommended to one and all.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

In article >, Terry Pulliam
Burd > wrote:

> On 27 Nov 2004 20:30:05 -0800, (nancree) wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > My children now travel to, say, London, and
> >know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
> >it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
>
> <snip>
>
> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
>
> Highly recommended to one and all.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

<Oooh, ooh, jumps up and down> I was there in early June. I didn't
think about the cigar smoke. Amazing, eh?
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 11-29-04; Sam I Am!
birthday telling; Thanksgiving 2004; Fanfare, Maestro, please.

In article >, Terry Pulliam
Burd > wrote:

> On 27 Nov 2004 20:30:05 -0800, (nancree) wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > My children now travel to, say, London, and
> >know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
> >it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
>
> <snip>
>
> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
>
> Highly recommended to one and all.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

<Oooh, ooh, jumps up and down> I was there in early June. I didn't
think about the cigar smoke. Amazing, eh?
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 11-29-04; Sam I Am!
birthday telling; Thanksgiving 2004; Fanfare, Maestro, please.

"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message > (nancree) wrote:
>
>> My children now travel to, say, London, and
>>know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
>>it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
>
> <snip>
>
> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
>
> Highly recommended to one and all.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Amazing, aren't they - and a recommended visit that I was going to include
in the narrative I'm preparing for Nancree. The War Rooms are on a little
street off Whitehall, near the Prime Minister's residence and Parliament.

Here's a great site:

http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006

Dora

"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message > (nancree) wrote:
>
>> My children now travel to, say, London, and
>>know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
>>it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
>
> <snip>
>
> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
>
> Highly recommended to one and all.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Amazing, aren't they - and a recommended visit that I was going to include
in the narrative I'm preparing for Nancree. The War Rooms are on a little
street off Whitehall, near the Prime Minister's residence and Parliament.

Here's a great site:

http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006

Dora

See further information below:

"limey" wrote in message >
> "Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message > (nancree) wrote:
>>
>>> My children now travel to, say, London, and
>>>know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
>>>it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
>> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
>> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
>> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
>> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
>> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
>> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
>> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
>> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
>> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
>>
>> Highly recommended to one and all.
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> Amazing, aren't they - and a recommended visit that I was going to
> include in the narrative I'm preparing for Nancree. The War Rooms are on
> a little street off Whitehall, near the Prime Minister's residence and
> Parliament.
>
> Here's a great site:
>
> http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006
>
> Dora

If you and your children are interested in museums, The Imperial War Museum
is another impressive place. I have never been there since it's totally
across London, on the other side of the River Thames.

http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006

Dora

See further information below:

"limey" wrote in message >
> "Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message > (nancree) wrote:
>>
>>> My children now travel to, say, London, and
>>>know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
>>>it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
>> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
>> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
>> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
>> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
>> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
>> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
>> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
>> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
>> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
>>
>> Highly recommended to one and all.
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> Amazing, aren't they - and a recommended visit that I was going to
> include in the narrative I'm preparing for Nancree. The War Rooms are on
> a little street off Whitehall, near the Prime Minister's residence and
> Parliament.
>
> Here's a great site:
>
> http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006
>
> Dora

If you and your children are interested in museums, The Imperial War Museum
is another impressive place. I have never been there since it's totally
across London, on the other side of the River Thames.

http://cwr.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00f006

Dora

In article >, "limey"
> wrote:
> If you and your children are interested in museums, The Imperial War
> Museum is another impressive place. I have never been there since
> it's totally across London, on the other side of the River Thames.

Hey, I was there, too, Dora. The one with all the planes and tanks and
the 1940s house? Interesting.

> Dora

Crikey -- I could have saved $4000 and seen it all on the web!! LOL!
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birthday telling; Thanksgiving 2004; Fanfare, Maestro, please.

In article >, "limey"
> wrote:
> If you and your children are interested in museums, The Imperial War
> Museum is another impressive place. I have never been there since
> it's totally across London, on the other side of the River Thames.

Hey, I was there, too, Dora. The one with all the planes and tanks and
the 1940s house? Interesting.

> Dora

Crikey -- I could have saved $4000 and seen it all on the web!! LOL!
--
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birthday telling; Thanksgiving 2004; Fanfare, Maestro, please.

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

><Oooh, ooh, jumps up and down> I was there in early June. I didn't
>think about the cigar smoke. Amazing, eh?

That's one of the details that made the movie "Apollo 13" so 'real',
and was one of the few details missed in the book/movie "Hunt for Red
October"[1]... The prevalance of ashtrays and smokers.

[1] OTOH the Russians were shown as smokers in the movie, but by that
time, smokers were being demonized here in the US. So that may have
been used as white hat/black hat sybolism.

D.
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-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

><Oooh, ooh, jumps up and down> I was there in early June. I didn't
>think about the cigar smoke. Amazing, eh?

That's one of the details that made the movie "Apollo 13" so 'real',
and was one of the few details missed in the book/movie "Hunt for Red
October"[1]... The prevalance of ashtrays and smokers.

[1] OTOH the Russians were shown as smokers in the movie, but by that
time, smokers were being demonized here in the US. So that may have
been used as white hat/black hat sybolism.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote
"limey" wrote:
>> If you and your children are interested in museums, The Imperial War
>> Museum is another impressive place. I have never been there since
>> it's totally across London, on the other side of the River Thames.
>
> Hey, I was there, too, Dora. The one with all the planes and tanks and
> the 1940s house? Interesting.
>
>> Dora
>
> Crikey -- I could have saved $4000 and seen it all on the web!! LOL!
> --
> -Barb

Hey, better still - I could have provided all the links and you could have
sent me the $4,000!

Dora

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote
"limey" wrote:
>> If you and your children are interested in museums, The Imperial War
>> Museum is another impressive place. I have never been there since
>> it's totally across London, on the other side of the River Thames.
>
> Hey, I was there, too, Dora. The one with all the planes and tanks and
> the 1940s house? Interesting.
>
>> Dora
>
> Crikey -- I could have saved $4000 and seen it all on the web!! LOL!
> --
> -Barb

Hey, better still - I could have provided all the links and you could have
sent me the $4,000!

Dora

In article >, "limey"
> wrote:
> > Crikey -- I could have saved $4000 and seen it all on the web!! LOL!

> Hey, better still - I could have provided all the links and you could
> have sent me the $4,000!

> Dora

A day late and a dime short, Dora. Damn, I hate when that happens!
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Mimi Sheraton

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote in message

>> > Crikey -- I could have saved $4000 and seen it all on the web!! LOL!
>
limey wrote:
>> Hey, better still - I could have provided all the links and you could
>> have sent me the $4,000!
>
>> Dora
>
> A day late and a dime short, Dora. Damn, I hate when that happens!
> --
> -Barb

Damn, I'm hating it more than you are!

Dora

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
: In article >, Terry Pulliam
: Burd > wrote:

:> On 27 Nov 2004 20:30:05 -0800, (nancree) wrote:
:>
:> <snip>
:>
:> > My children now travel to, say, London, and
:> >know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
:> >it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
:>
:> <snip>
:>
:> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
:> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
:> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
:> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
:> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
:> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
:> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
:> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
:> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
:> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
:>
:> Highly recommended to one and all.
:>
:> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
:> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

: <Oooh, ooh, jumps up and down> I was there in early June. I didn't
: think about the cigar smoke. Amazing, eh?

I'm only, oh, almost a month late here! There is also the IMperial War
Museum. There's an exhibit of what it was like during the blitz, they
pack about 15 or so to this "tour". Very effective, and perhaps for one
who had actually been through that experience, a bit too evocative. I
wish I could remember what the cockney gent says at the end, I was very
near tears, just so moving.

Tammy

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
: In article >, Terry Pulliam
: Burd > wrote:

:> On 27 Nov 2004 20:30:05 -0800, (nancree) wrote:
:>
:> <snip>
:>
:> > My children now travel to, say, London, and
:> >know about hotels, monuments, moments in earlier history. But I think
:> >it makes the visit more meaningful if they know about wartime London.
:>
:> <snip>
:>
:> The DH and I just spent a few days in London and visited the Cabinet
:> War Rooms near Westminster Abbey. Phenomonal. You want a good look and
:> feel of wartime London, have a look there. The unbelievably cramped
:> quarters, claustrophobic sleeping quarters for junior staff,
:> retro-fitted 3' slab of concrete to protect from bombs, primitive (by
:> our standards) communications room, etc. Esp. interesting was how
:> stark were the bedrooms for Churchill and the senior staff. Add to
:> that what must have been ghastly degrees of cigarette/cigar smoke,
:> collective human miasma that couldn't be filtered, no running water or
:> sewage facilities. It's a tribute to them all.
:>
:> Highly recommended to one and all.
:>
:> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
:> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

: <Oooh, ooh, jumps up and down> I was there in early June. I didn't
: think about the cigar smoke. Amazing, eh?

I'm only, oh, almost a month late here! There is also the IMperial War
Museum. There's an exhibit of what it was like during the blitz, they
pack about 15 or so to this "tour". Very effective, and perhaps for one
who had actually been through that experience, a bit too evocative. I
wish I could remember what the cockney gent says at the end, I was very
near tears, just so moving.

Tammy