I've been on this earth some time, and seen several diet fads:


1. Reduce sugar. I think that there was good dietary advice to cut down
on "sweets". Of course, most desserts get most of their calories from
fat, but since "sweets" usually have less food value than other foods, it
makes sense to cut down on "sweets" first. That's a real easy way to
figure out how to reduce calories. Unfortunately, people got real weird
about this. You would hear people refer to the "good and healthy"
breakfast they had. Three eggs, three pieces of bacon, greasy potatoes,
toast with butter and coffee with heavy cream. The healthy part? They
replaced the one teaspoon of sugar in their coffee with a substitute.
Savings? 18 calories!

2. Reduce fat. Fine, but when you look at how people did it, they always
added even more sugar to compensate. And then the food people made zero
fat foods by reducing the portion size and reducing fat to 1/2 gram, which
they could advertise as zero. Of course, people would eat 5-6 portions at
time, since the portion size was ridiculous.

3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but certainly
people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well. But
now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat and
calling it a "good diet".


So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

Dan Abel wrote:

> I've been on this earth some time, and seen several diet fads:
<clip>
> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
> the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
> went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
> a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!
>

I hear you! I actually recall seeing an article or
infomercial about water content in food as a new
diet and we should all be eating water rich stuff.
Well...sure, but you can only eat so much fruit
and lettuce before you're really jonesing for a
buger, eh?
Goomba

Dan Abel wrote:

> I've been on this earth some time, and seen several diet fads:
<clip>
> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
> the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
> went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
> a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!
>

I hear you! I actually recall seeing an article or
infomercial about water content in food as a new
diet and we should all be eating water rich stuff.
Well...sure, but you can only eat so much fruit
and lettuce before you're really jonesing for a
buger, eh?
Goomba

Goomba38 wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> who always went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A
>> pint of pee weighs a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than
>> a minute!
>>
>
> Well...sure, but you can only eat so much fruit
> and lettuce before you're really jonesing for a
> buger, eh?
> Goomba

Uh... Goomba... I really hope you prefer burgers to bugers

Jill

Goomba38 wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> who always went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A
>> pint of pee weighs a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than
>> a minute!
>>
>
> Well...sure, but you can only eat so much fruit
> and lettuce before you're really jonesing for a
> buger, eh?
> Goomba

Uh... Goomba... I really hope you prefer burgers to bugers

Jill

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:08:44 -0800, (Dan Abel) wrote:
>
>3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but certainly
>people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well. But
>now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat and
>calling it a "good diet".
>
Check this: http://tinyurl.com/2mnqw for some information if you are
interested. Not all reduced carb diets are the same.
>
>So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
>the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
>went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
>a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!

Maybe fasting will come back into style. Or moving to an impoverished
country and eating with the locals.


modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:08:44 -0800, (Dan Abel) wrote:
>
>3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but certainly
>people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well. But
>now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat and
>calling it a "good diet".
>
Check this: http://tinyurl.com/2mnqw for some information if you are
interested. Not all reduced carb diets are the same.
>
>So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
>the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
>went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
>a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!

Maybe fasting will come back into style. Or moving to an impoverished
country and eating with the locals.


modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

Dan Abel wrote:

> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
> the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
> went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
> a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!

I knew someone who was in a competition with a friend, who could lose
the most in such and such an amount of time. Before weigh in, guess
what they did? Donated blood. To lose weight. How bizarre is that?

nancy

Dan Abel wrote:

> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
> the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who always
> went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee weighs
> a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!

I knew someone who was in a competition with a friend, who could lose
the most in such and such an amount of time. Before weigh in, guess
what they did? Donated blood. To lose weight. How bizarre is that?

nancy

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> I've been on this earth some time, and seen several diet fads:
>
<snipped>

> 3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but certainly
> people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well. But
> now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat and
> calling it a "good diet".
>
>

Low carb diets are usually misunderstood and sometimes misused. The diet is
not a license to eat as much meat and fat as you want! Properly done, a low
carb diet will include more vegetables than most people eat and lots of
seafood. Low carb means "low carb," it does not mean excessive fat or meat.



--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Dan Abel wrote:

> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just start
> the cycle over again

standby for the transfat craze. i think that'll be the next thing to avoid

"A.C." > wrote in
:

>
> Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just
>> start the cycle over again
>
> standby for the transfat craze. i think that'll be the next thing to
> avoid
>

Also, the glycaemic index is getting popular.

K
--
nil illegitimi carborundum

"A.C." > wrote in
:

>
> Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just
>> start the cycle over again
>
> standby for the transfat craze. i think that'll be the next thing to
> avoid
>

Also, the glycaemic index is getting popular.

K
--
nil illegitimi carborundum

jmcquown wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>
>>Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>who always went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A
>>>pint of pee weighs a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than
>>>a minute!
>>>
>>
>>Well...sure, but you can only eat so much fruit
>>and lettuce before you're really jonesing for a
>>buger, eh?
>>Goomba
>
>
> Uh... Goomba... I really hope you prefer burgers to bugers
>
> Jill

damn. color me mortified. yeah. BURgers, please!
geeeez.

In article > , "Peter
Aitken" > wrote:

> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
> ...

> > 3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but certainly
> > people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well. But
> > now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat and
> > calling it a "good diet".


> Low carb diets are usually misunderstood and sometimes misused. The diet is
> not a license to eat as much meat and fat as you want! Properly done, a low
> carb diet will include more vegetables than most people eat and lots of
> seafood. Low carb means "low carb," it does not mean excessive fat or meat.


You make a good point, but this is true of all reasonable diets, not just
low carb. That was *my* point, that some people take reasonable diets and
twist them all around so they are barely recognizable, so people can eat
whatever they want and still claim that they are eating a "good diet".


I'm sure we've all had the experience of talking to someone who's idea of
dinner is three pork chops (with the fat) and three chicken breasts (with
the skin) and nothing else, who claim with a perfectly straight face that
it's OK because they're on a "low carb diet".

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

Goomba38 > wrote in message >...
> damn. color me mortified. yeah. BURgers, please!
> geeeez.

Reminds me of a joke I invented when I was around six years old. I
thought it was hilarious and would pull it on anyone who would listen.

Me: "Hi, do you like hamburgers?"
You: "Yes, I do!"
Me: "Oh goody. I'll eat the ham and you can eat the boogers!"
And, I would laugh and laugh.

A variation on this joke would be about cheeseburgers when my audience
would thin out.

Karen

Goomba38 > wrote in message >...
> damn. color me mortified. yeah. BURgers, please!
> geeeez.

Reminds me of a joke I invented when I was around six years old. I
thought it was hilarious and would pull it on anyone who would listen.

Me: "Hi, do you like hamburgers?"
You: "Yes, I do!"
Me: "Oh goody. I'll eat the ham and you can eat the boogers!"
And, I would laugh and laugh.

A variation on this joke would be about cheeseburgers when my audience
would thin out.

Karen

Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> I knew someone who was in a competition with a friend, who could lose
> the most in such and such an amount of time. Before weigh in, guess
> what they did? Donated blood. To lose weight. How bizarre is that?

OMG, I'm embarrassed to admit this.

A coworker friend and I used to donate every 56 days (minimum amount
between donations) because of this very reason. We thought were
ridiculous and laughed about it but we felt thinner afterwards and
we'd not feel guilty eating the cookies and juice they give you. We're
both up to have had donated several gallons each over the years.

heck, I donated blood a month ago. But, the weight-loss feeling
novelty has worn off.

Karen

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> I've been on this earth some time, and seen several diet fads:
>
>
> 1. Reduce sugar. I think that there was good dietary advice to cut
> down
> on "sweets". Of course, most desserts get most of their calories
> from
> fat, but since "sweets" usually have less food value than other
> foods, it
> makes sense to cut down on "sweets" first. That's a real easy way
> to
> figure out how to reduce calories. Unfortunately, people got real
> weird
> about this. You would hear people refer to the "good and healthy"
> breakfast they had. Three eggs, three pieces of bacon, greasy
> potatoes,
> toast with butter and coffee with heavy cream. The healthy part?
> They
> replaced the one teaspoon of sugar in their coffee with a
> substitute.
> Savings? 18 calories!
>
> 2. Reduce fat. Fine, but when you look at how people did it, they
> always
> added even more sugar to compensate. And then the food people made
> zero
> fat foods by reducing the portion size and reducing fat to 1/2 gram,
> which
> they could advertise as zero. Of course, people would eat 5-6
> portions at
> time, since the portion size was ridiculous.
>
> 3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but
> certainly
> people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well.
> But
> now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat
> and
> calling it a "good diet".
>
>
> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just
> start
> the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who
> always
> went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee
> weighs
> a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Sonoma State University
> AIS
>

I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
kidneys get a workout.

I'm kidding, of course - I happened to remember that from an old B.C.
cartoon from way back. IMHO, there's no substitute for moderation in
everything, including portion size, and regular exercise.

--
"Life is hard. Life is harder when
you're stupid". - John Wayne

"Politics is war without bloodshed while
war is politics with bloodshed" - Mao Zedong

'99 FLHRCI

Remove 74 before replying.

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> I've been on this earth some time, and seen several diet fads:
>
>
> 1. Reduce sugar. I think that there was good dietary advice to cut
> down
> on "sweets". Of course, most desserts get most of their calories
> from
> fat, but since "sweets" usually have less food value than other
> foods, it
> makes sense to cut down on "sweets" first. That's a real easy way
> to
> figure out how to reduce calories. Unfortunately, people got real
> weird
> about this. You would hear people refer to the "good and healthy"
> breakfast they had. Three eggs, three pieces of bacon, greasy
> potatoes,
> toast with butter and coffee with heavy cream. The healthy part?
> They
> replaced the one teaspoon of sugar in their coffee with a
> substitute.
> Savings? 18 calories!
>
> 2. Reduce fat. Fine, but when you look at how people did it, they
> always
> added even more sugar to compensate. And then the food people made
> zero
> fat foods by reducing the portion size and reducing fat to 1/2 gram,
> which
> they could advertise as zero. Of course, people would eat 5-6
> portions at
> time, since the portion size was ridiculous.
>
> 3. Reduce carbs. I don't understand this one too well, but
> certainly
> people who consume 7 portions of carb in a meal aren't doing well.
> But
> now you hear of people consuming enormous portions of meat and fat
> and
> calling it a "good diet".
>
>
> So, what do you folks think the next fad will be, or will we just
> start
> the cycle over again? Low moisture? I had an office partner who
> always
> went pee right before getting weighed at the doctor. A pint of pee
> weighs
> a pound. That's a pound weight loss in less than a minute!
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Sonoma State University
> AIS
>

I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
kidneys get a workout.

I'm kidding, of course - I happened to remember that from an old B.C.
cartoon from way back. IMHO, there's no substitute for moderation in
everything, including portion size, and regular exercise.

--
"Life is hard. Life is harder when
you're stupid". - John Wayne

"Politics is war without bloodshed while
war is politics with bloodshed" - Mao Zedong

'99 FLHRCI

Remove 74 before replying.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:57:56 -0500, "Pizen" >
wrote:
>
>I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
>1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
>kidneys get a workout.
>
mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer and
don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:57:56 -0500, "Pizen" >
wrote:
>
>I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
>1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
>kidneys get a workout.
>
mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer and
don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:57:56 -0500, "Pizen" >
> wrote:
> >
> >I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
> >1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
> >kidneys get a workout.
> >
> mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer and
> don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)
>
> your pal,
> blake

Blake, I'm on that diet too! :~)

kili

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:57:56 -0500, "Pizen" >
> wrote:
> >
> >I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
> >1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
> >kidneys get a workout.
> >
> mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer and
> don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)
>
> your pal,
> blake

Blake, I'm on that diet too! :~)

kili

blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:57:56 -0500, "Pizen" >
> wrote:
>>
>> I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
>> 1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
>> kidneys get a workout.
>>
> mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer and
> don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)
>
> your pal,
> blake

Sounds like we have a winner here!
Good 'un, Blake.

BOB

>From: blake murphy

> (Snipped) mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer
and
>don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)
>
>your pal,
>blake

Hilarious.
I wonder if you can make beer from zuchinni. I guess the problem would be
getting someone to drink it.

Henrietta

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:35:07 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:57:56 -0500, "Pizen" >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >I recommend the lite beer diet. Drink a 12-pack of lite beer (about
>> >1200 calories) and pass out. No hunger pains, all natural, and the
>> >kidneys get a workout.
>> >
>> mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer and
>> don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Blake, I'm on that diet too! :~)
>
>kili
>
actually, i like zucchini in stir fries.
a nice crunch. and they're cheap.

possibly i was frightened by gourds the size of baseball bats that a
co-worker often brought in.

your pal,
blake

On 03 Dec 2004 17:30:37 GMT, (Hazels65) wrote:

>>From: blake murphy
>
>> (Snipped) mine is better. the 'beer and zucchini' diet. drink lots of beer
>and
>>don't eat no zucchini. (patent pending)
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>
>Hilarious.
>I wonder if you can make beer from zuchinni. I guess the problem would be
>getting someone to drink it.
>
>Henrietta

if the price is right, i might take a whack at it.

your pal,
blake