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A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.

Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they might
last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?

Elaine


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"elaine" > wrote in message
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> A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they

might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
> Elaine
>

Hard to keep going inside. The tags they wear usually say something like
"this is not a houseplant, after the holidays plant outside in your garden"


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"elaine" > wrote in message
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>A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they
> might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
> Elaine
>


They don't last all that long, but it is nice to have some fresh rosemary
for a month or two. If you have the right climate you can plant it
outside. My daughter lives in Las Vegas and has two huge plants about 4
feet in diameter.


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"elaine" > wrote in message
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>A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they
> might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
> Elaine
>


They don't last all that long, but it is nice to have some fresh rosemary
for a month or two. If you have the right climate you can plant it
outside. My daughter lives in Las Vegas and has two huge plants about 4
feet in diameter.


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"elaine" > wrote in message
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>A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they
> might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
> Elaine
>
>

Be careful of the watering. Too much water and they get white and furry and
die. Be sure the drainage is very good. They need a lot of light, but for
me, indirect, bright light is best. But, it smells so wonderful in the
house. Good luck.
Janet




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elaine wrote:

> A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
> Elaine
>
>

Any friends with a greenhouse to overwinter it for you after the
holidays? Mom keeps hers in the garden durring the warm months, in the
greenhouse in the winter and has been known to bring it into the house
for several weeks around Christmas and adorn it with lights. 7 years
and counting on the same plant.

Jessica
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:26:11 -0500, "elaine"
> wrote:

> A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>

Where do you live? Rosemary is a hearty plant and it seems
to me that it should do well inside. I live in a climate
where it grows like a weed, so I never have more than a few
sprigs inside at any one time doing cooking or decorative
work.

sf
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elaine wrote:

>A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
>christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
>and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
>Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they might
>last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
>Elaine
>
>
>
>

I planted 3 or 4 the Xmas of '00. (They were on sale after the season)
Two managed to survive my brown thumb, and had grown to about 2 feet
tall until this year...after the hurricanes they were completely
submerged for 3 weeks. They had no sense of humor about the flooding!
BTW........I live in zone 8a.

Good luck!
Bubba

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> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:26:11 -0500, "elaine"
> > wrote:
>
> > A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> > christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do

oth -
> > and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they

might
> > last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
> >

> Where do you live? Rosemary is a hearty plant and it seems
> to me that it should do well inside. I live in a climate
> where it grows like a weed, so I never have more than a few
> sprigs inside at any one time doing cooking or decorative
> work.


I live in the Toronto area, so putting it outside before April/May is out of
the question. I think I'll wait to buy it as close to Christmas as I can --
and use all the fine suggestions received, and try to keep it alive until
Spring.

E.


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elaine wrote:
> A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>
> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they might
> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
>
> Elaine
>
>

My daughter bought one a few years ago, kept it watered, feed it some
dilute Miracle Gro and it lasted until the day after New Years. I was
visiting at that time and separated the trees in the container
(generally they intertwine two or more rosemary bushes to get the
required shape). Put them into separate containers and, in the spring,
set them out in her yard. They're about four feet wide by four feet tall
now. She lives in USDA Zone 8B in Texas.

Rosemary generally doesn't get very tall, it is more of a spreading
bush. Mine has been in the ground about 14 years and I literally hack it
back by two-thirds each year to keep it under control.

Not only are the leaves a culinary herb but the wood can make meat tasty
when put into the barbecue. HTH

George



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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:26:11 -0500, "elaine"
> wrote:
>
>> A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
>> christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
>> and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
>>
>> Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they might
>> last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?


I kept a rosemary plant inside for a number of years. They do very
well inside if you can provide them with a very brightly lit spot (I
grew mine in a west-facing window that recieved full afternoon sun) in
a cool (say 60-65F degrees daytime, a little lower at night) room.
Also, they need to stay evenly moist; they will die if the watering is
off either way (too dry or too wet).

Regards,
Tracy R.
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George wrote:
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> "elaine" > wrote in message
> ...
> > A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> > christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> > and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they

> might
> > last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
> >
> > Elaine
> >

> Hard to keep going inside. The tags they wear usually say something like
> "this is not a houseplant, after the holidays plant outside in your garden"


Don't move it from 70 F living room to 25F garden. Mine winter through
here, down to 22, with wet wet wet all winter. A really hard or long
frost would probably do them in. What is your zone and have you tried
rec.gardens.edible?
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George wrote:
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> "elaine" > wrote in message
> ...
> > A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> > christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> > and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they

> might
> > last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
> >
> > Elaine
> >

> Hard to keep going inside. The tags they wear usually say something like
> "this is not a houseplant, after the holidays plant outside in your garden"


Don't move it from 70 F living room to 25F garden. Mine winter through
here, down to 22, with wet wet wet all winter. A really hard or long
frost would probably do them in. What is your zone and have you tried
rec.gardens.edible?
blacksalt
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:59:54 -0600, ravinwulf
> wrote:

> I kept a rosemary plant inside for a number of years. They do very
> well inside if you can provide them with a very brightly lit spot (I
> grew mine in a west-facing window that recieved full afternoon sun) in
> a cool (say 60-65F degrees daytime, a little lower at night) room.
> Also, they need to stay evenly moist; they will die if the watering is
> off either way (too dry or too wet).


I grow rosemary outside East side of the house (between
buildings) with a 60-65F daytime average because it can take
long dry spells! That's the type of climate I live in and
my rosemary grows in an area of the yard that isn't covered
by the sprinkling system.

http://www.smithandhawken.com
Rosemary Hardiness

Question: Can I transplant my Rosemary Topiary to the
outdoors in my climate?
€”Marcia McCann, Massachusetts

Answer: Since most rosemary plants are only hardy down to
30°F (or USDA Zone 8), I wouldnt plant it permanently
outdoors in Massachusetts. You can grow it outside from late
spring to early fall, but move it indoors for the winter. To
keep your rosemary happy inside during the winter, grow it
in loads of full sun (6-8 hours) and keep it on the dry,
cool (60°F) side. For more information about rosemary, click
on Archives to the top right or left of this page, and
search under €œRosemary.€

http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/rosoffarp.htm
http://hortweb.cas.psu.edu/extension.../rosemary.html

sf
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:59:54 -0600, ravinwulf
> wrote:

> I kept a rosemary plant inside for a number of years. They do very
> well inside if you can provide them with a very brightly lit spot (I
> grew mine in a west-facing window that recieved full afternoon sun) in
> a cool (say 60-65F degrees daytime, a little lower at night) room.
> Also, they need to stay evenly moist; they will die if the watering is
> off either way (too dry or too wet).


I grow rosemary outside East side of the house (between
buildings) with a 60-65F daytime average because it can take
long dry spells! That's the type of climate I live in and
my rosemary grows in an area of the yard that isn't covered
by the sprinkling system.

http://www.smithandhawken.com
Rosemary Hardiness

Question: Can I transplant my Rosemary Topiary to the
outdoors in my climate?
€”Marcia McCann, Massachusetts

Answer: Since most rosemary plants are only hardy down to
30°F (or USDA Zone 8), I wouldnt plant it permanently
outdoors in Massachusetts. You can grow it outside from late
spring to early fall, but move it indoors for the winter. To
keep your rosemary happy inside during the winter, grow it
in loads of full sun (6-8 hours) and keep it on the dry,
cool (60°F) side. For more information about rosemary, click
on Archives to the top right or left of this page, and
search under €œRosemary.€

http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/rosoffarp.htm
http://hortweb.cas.psu.edu/extension.../rosemary.html

sf
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In article >,
kalanamak > wrote:

> George wrote:
> >
> > "elaine" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> > > christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> > > and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
> > >
> > > Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they

> > might
> > > last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
> > >
> > > Elaine
> > >

> > Hard to keep going inside. The tags they wear usually say something like
> > "this is not a houseplant, after the holidays plant outside in your garden"

>
> Don't move it from 70 F living room to 25F garden. Mine winter through
> here, down to 22, with wet wet wet all winter. A really hard or long
> frost would probably do them in. What is your zone and have you tried
> rec.gardens.edible?
> blacksalt


Mine have survived into the teens, but they are planted on the west side
of the house (right next to it) and I throw a sheet tent over them when
it's going to freeze. ;-)
--
K.

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see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain
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In article >,
kalanamak > wrote:

> George wrote:
> >
> > "elaine" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > A couple of people I know are opting for rosemary trees as opposed to
> > > christmas trees this year. But there's no reason why I can't do both -
> > > and a few weeks ago I saw a beautiful rosemary tree at my local Costco.
> > >
> > > Has anyone had experience with indoor rosemary trees -- how long they

> > might
> > > last - or are they perhaps purely decorative?
> > >
> > > Elaine
> > >

> > Hard to keep going inside. The tags they wear usually say something like
> > "this is not a houseplant, after the holidays plant outside in your garden"

>
> Don't move it from 70 F living room to 25F garden. Mine winter through
> here, down to 22, with wet wet wet all winter. A really hard or long
> frost would probably do them in. What is your zone and have you tried
> rec.gardens.edible?
> blacksalt


Mine have survived into the teens, but they are planted on the west side
of the house (right next to it) and I throw a sheet tent over them when
it's going to freeze. ;-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain
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"Janet Bostwick" & Cyndi" wrote:

<snipping other conversations to say thank you!>
>>
>> If I could grow rosemary - I'd love to use the stems/twigs for Lamb
>> Kebobs. Yumm!!! Or even with pork loin... <slurp>
>>
>> Cyndi
>>

> If you're going to grow it as a potted plant that you keep outside during
> the summer, indoors during the winter, you need to put the pot into a more
> shaded area sometime in mid-August. This prepares the plant for the lower
> light conditions indoors. It's easy to encourage new growth when the
> plant is in the house just by watering well and keeping it warm.
> Unfortunately, the new growth in the house is extremely tender and soft,
> not at all like the slower growth that you get outdoors. This new indoor
> growth is very vulnerable to mildew and, oh, darn, I can't think of what
> that white, cottony stuff is called. Either spreads like wildfire and
> leaves mottle and drop before you know it. Good air circulation is
> important. If you want to grow Rosemary outdoors, in the garden, know
> your temperate zone and the temperature lows for the area. When you go
> looking for a rosemary plant, read the tag. There are certain varieties
> that will tolerate temperatures below zero. Arp is one of them. Other
> rosemary plants require much warmer temperatures. Some rosemary plants
> are far more resinous than others, almost tacky with a more pine-like
> scent. This may make them stronger flavored, but doesn't really affect
> the overall taste as long as you are aware of what you have and are
> judicious with use. I don't know if rosemary can tolerate extremely warm
> and humid temperatures outdoors in a area like Florida, for instance. HTH
> Janet

===========================

Thanks Janet. I'll keep a copy of this in case some rosemary plant is
unfortunate enough to land at my house. I never thought about some of the
lighting conditions - but then again, I've never been able to keep one long
enough for that to be an issue. I've problems with the mildew once or
twice and I think they require different watering cycles than I was used to
(or rather, different from the plants that I seem able to grow LOL).

Cyndi


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"Janet Bostwick" & Cyndi" wrote:

<snipping other conversations to say thank you!>
>>
>> If I could grow rosemary - I'd love to use the stems/twigs for Lamb
>> Kebobs. Yumm!!! Or even with pork loin... <slurp>
>>
>> Cyndi
>>

> If you're going to grow it as a potted plant that you keep outside during
> the summer, indoors during the winter, you need to put the pot into a more
> shaded area sometime in mid-August. This prepares the plant for the lower
> light conditions indoors. It's easy to encourage new growth when the
> plant is in the house just by watering well and keeping it warm.
> Unfortunately, the new growth in the house is extremely tender and soft,
> not at all like the slower growth that you get outdoors. This new indoor
> growth is very vulnerable to mildew and, oh, darn, I can't think of what
> that white, cottony stuff is called. Either spreads like wildfire and
> leaves mottle and drop before you know it. Good air circulation is
> important. If you want to grow Rosemary outdoors, in the garden, know
> your temperate zone and the temperature lows for the area. When you go
> looking for a rosemary plant, read the tag. There are certain varieties
> that will tolerate temperatures below zero. Arp is one of them. Other
> rosemary plants require much warmer temperatures. Some rosemary plants
> are far more resinous than others, almost tacky with a more pine-like
> scent. This may make them stronger flavored, but doesn't really affect
> the overall taste as long as you are aware of what you have and are
> judicious with use. I don't know if rosemary can tolerate extremely warm
> and humid temperatures outdoors in a area like Florida, for instance. HTH
> Janet

===========================

Thanks Janet. I'll keep a copy of this in case some rosemary plant is
unfortunate enough to land at my house. I never thought about some of the
lighting conditions - but then again, I've never been able to keep one long
enough for that to be an issue. I've problems with the mildew once or
twice and I think they require different watering cycles than I was used to
(or rather, different from the plants that I seem able to grow LOL).

Cyndi


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:59:54 -0600, ravinwulf
> > wrote:
>
>> I kept a rosemary plant inside for a number of years. They do very
>> well inside if you can provide them with a very brightly lit spot (I
>> grew mine in a west-facing window that recieved full afternoon sun) in
>> a cool (say 60-65F degrees daytime, a little lower at night) room.
>> Also, they need to stay evenly moist; they will die if the watering is
>> off either way (too dry or too wet).

>
> I grow rosemary outside East side of the house (between
> buildings) with a 60-65F daytime average because it can take
> long dry spells! That's the type of climate I live in and
> my rosemary grows in an area of the yard that isn't covered
> by the sprinkling system.
>
> http://www.smithandhawken.com
> Rosemary Hardiness
>
> Question: Can I transplant my Rosemary Topiary to the
> outdoors in my climate?
> -Marcia McCann, Massachusetts
>
> Answer: Since most rosemary plants are only hardy down to
> 30°F (or USDA Zone 8), I wouldn't plant it permanently
> outdoors in Massachusetts. You can grow it outside from late
> spring to early fall, but move it indoors for the winter. To
> keep your rosemary happy inside during the winter, grow it
> in loads of full sun (6-8 hours) and keep it on the dry,
> cool (60°F) side. For more information about rosemary, click
> on Archives to the top right or left of this page, and
> search under "Rosemary."
>
> http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/rosoffarp.htm
> http://hortweb.cas.psu.edu/extension.../rosemary.html
>
> sf
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

=================

Thank you both, very much! I'll venture to say that the even
watering/moisture was probably my biggest downfall.

Cyndi




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"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message
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> Thanks Janet. I'll keep a copy of this in case some rosemary plant is
> unfortunate enough to land at my house. I never thought about some of the
> lighting conditions - but then again, I've never been able to keep one
> long enough for that to be an issue. I've problems with the mildew
> once or twice and I think they require different watering cycles than I
> was used to (or rather, different from the plants that I seem able to grow
> LOL).
>
> Cyndi

No prob. I forgot to mention, rosemary, when potted, likes to be somewhat
root-bound in the pot. A small rosemary plant in a large pot is not a happy
rosemary plant.
Janet


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"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message
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> Thanks Janet. I'll keep a copy of this in case some rosemary plant is
> unfortunate enough to land at my house. I never thought about some of the
> lighting conditions - but then again, I've never been able to keep one
> long enough for that to be an issue. I've problems with the mildew
> once or twice and I think they require different watering cycles than I
> was used to (or rather, different from the plants that I seem able to grow
> LOL).
>
> Cyndi

No prob. I forgot to mention, rosemary, when potted, likes to be somewhat
root-bound in the pot. A small rosemary plant in a large pot is not a happy
rosemary plant.
Janet


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It depends on where you live. In Kansas, if left outside, rosemary dies
in winter unless it's particularly mild & the plant is very
well-mulched. Wintering indoors, I found that rosemary does okay so
long as it's kept well away from forced-air heat ducts. My plants
winter well in a cool corner of the kitchen, behind french doors facing
west (indirect light). My kitchen has no heat ducts, & it's the only
room in the house where they will live in winter. The french doors
happen to be opened several times a day, & the plants seem to like the
moister, cool air - so long as they don't sit in freezing air for long
periods. Just don't let them dry out.

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georgette wrote:
> It depends on where you live. In Kansas, if left outside, rosemary dies
> in winter unless it's particularly mild & the plant is very
> well-mulched. Wintering indoors, I found that rosemary does okay so
> long as it's kept well away from forced-air heat ducts. My plants
> winter well in a cool corner of the kitchen, behind french doors facing
> west (indirect light). My kitchen has no heat ducts, & it's the only
> room in the house where they will live in winter. The french doors
> happen to be opened several times a day, & the plants seem to like the
> moister, cool air - so long as they don't sit in freezing air for long
> periods. Just don't let them dry out.
>


Of course, if it looks like the plant is going to give up the ghost,
then do, by all means, dry them out. Makes better dried rosemary than
any you will find in any store.

I hung one upside down in the garage, and when it looked thoroughly dry,
knocked the needles off into bags and made presents of them to friends.


jim
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On 5 Dec 2004 00:41:33 -0800, "georgette"
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> It depends on where you live. In Kansas, if left outside, rosemary dies
> in winter unless it's particularly mild & the plant is very
> well-mulched. Wintering indoors, I found that rosemary does okay so
> long as it's kept well away from forced-air heat ducts. My plants
> winter well in a cool corner of the kitchen, behind french doors facing
> west (indirect light). My kitchen has no heat ducts, & it's the only
> room in the house where they will live in winter. The french doors
> happen to be opened several times a day, & the plants seem to like the
> moister, cool air - so long as they don't sit in freezing air for long
> periods. Just don't let them dry out.


What has happened to propegating new ones over the winter?
Just stick some new growth (not woody) in potting soil or a
growing medium, keep moist and plant after the last frost of
Spring. PS: strip the needles off the part of the sprig you
put into the soil... that's where the roots will form.

sf
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On 5 Dec 2004 00:41:33 -0800, "georgette"
> wrote:

> It depends on where you live. In Kansas, if left outside, rosemary dies
> in winter unless it's particularly mild & the plant is very
> well-mulched. Wintering indoors, I found that rosemary does okay so
> long as it's kept well away from forced-air heat ducts. My plants
> winter well in a cool corner of the kitchen, behind french doors facing
> west (indirect light). My kitchen has no heat ducts, & it's the only
> room in the house where they will live in winter. The french doors
> happen to be opened several times a day, & the plants seem to like the
> moister, cool air - so long as they don't sit in freezing air for long
> periods. Just don't let them dry out.


What has happened to propegating new ones over the winter?
Just stick some new growth (not woody) in potting soil or a
growing medium, keep moist and plant after the last frost of
Spring. PS: strip the needles off the part of the sprig you
put into the soil... that's where the roots will form.

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