My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

On 01 Dec 2004 06:37:47 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote:

>My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
>from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
>to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
>presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
>the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
>logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

It's not refrigerated when they mail it to you, which can take several
days. I wouldn't worry about 3 hours.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On 01 Dec 2004 06:37:47 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote:

>My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
>from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
>to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
>presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
>the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
>logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

It's not refrigerated when they mail it to you, which can take several
days. I wouldn't worry about 3 hours.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

DJS0302 wrote:
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?


It doesn't need refrigeration at all. *Maybe* some of the stuff should
be refrigerated after opening, but even that probably doesn't matter much.

Bob

DJS0302 wrote:
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?


It doesn't need refrigeration at all. *Maybe* some of the stuff should
be refrigerated after opening, but even that probably doesn't matter much.

Bob

"DJS0302" > wrote in message
...
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift
box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and
then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait
till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and
sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?


It doesn't have to be refrigerated at all. It's going to be fine. I used
to work at a Swiss Colony one time - the boxes just sit in the back
storeroom. It's a myth that cheese has to be refrigerated. Most cheese
stores in Europe don't refrigerate at all.

kili

"DJS0302" > wrote in message
...
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift
box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and
then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait
till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and
sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?


It doesn't have to be refrigerated at all. It's going to be fine. I used
to work at a Swiss Colony one time - the boxes just sit in the back
storeroom. It's a myth that cheese has to be refrigerated. Most cheese
stores in Europe don't refrigerate at all.

kili

"DJS0302" > wrote in message
...
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift
box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and
then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait
till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and
sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?


It doesn't have to be refrigerated at all. It's going to be fine. I used
to work at a Swiss Colony one time - the boxes just sit in the back
storeroom. It's a myth that cheese has to be refrigerated. Most cheese
stores in Europe don't refrigerate at all.

kili

DJS0302 wrote:

> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

Every Christmas I see Hickory Farms kiosks pop up in all the local malls. The stuff
sits out on their shelves without refrigeration. There are a number of
organizations that sell that stuff for fundraisers, and they don't worry about
refrigeration, so I wouldn't worry about it.

My father was always impossible to buy for. He never seemed to like anything we
bought him. One year I decided to get something ridiculous for him, figuring he was
just going to complain about it. I got him some model airplanes. He loved them. He
went out and got the paints and sheets of decals and spent hours and hours putting
them together and painting and putting on the markings of his old air force
squadrons.

DJS0302 wrote:

> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

Every Christmas I see Hickory Farms kiosks pop up in all the local malls. The stuff
sits out on their shelves without refrigeration. There are a number of
organizations that sell that stuff for fundraisers, and they don't worry about
refrigeration, so I wouldn't worry about it.

My father was always impossible to buy for. He never seemed to like anything we
bought him. One year I decided to get something ridiculous for him, figuring he was
just going to complain about it. I got him some model airplanes. He loved them. He
went out and got the paints and sheets of decals and spent hours and hours putting
them together and painting and putting on the markings of his old air force
squadrons.

DJS0302 wrote:

> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a
> gift box from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms.


I looked into that once, and if you add up what you really get for the
money, it's not good. What I did was go to a cheese specialty shop,
there I got a nicer variety of cheeses and such for far less money.




Brian

DJS0302 wrote:

> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a
> gift box from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms.


I looked into that once, and if you add up what you really get for the
money, it's not good. What I did was go to a cheese specialty shop,
there I got a nicer variety of cheeses and such for far less money.




Brian

DJS0302 wrote:
>
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

Of course it will. It's not refrigerated when it's sent to you. Few
cheeses even need to be refrigerated and the stuff those companies sell
certainly doesn't. The sausages are stuffed full of various
preservatives so they don't need refrigeration either.

YOu could just keep the box in the fridge until everyone gets home and
then put it under the tree.

DJS0302 wrote:
>
> My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a gift box
> from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms. We always go to church and then
> to dinner on Christmas Eve and then go back to my parent's house to open
> presents. If I keep the stuff refrigerated as long as possible and wait till
> the last minute to put the gift under the tree, will the cheese and sausage
> logs still be safe to eat after sitting out for about 3 hours?

Of course it will. It's not refrigerated when it's sent to you. Few
cheeses even need to be refrigerated and the stuff those companies sell
certainly doesn't. The sausages are stuffed full of various
preservatives so they don't need refrigeration either.

YOu could just keep the box in the fridge until everyone gets home and
then put it under the tree.

Default User wrote:

> DJS0302 wrote:
>
> > My dad is impossible to buy for so I was thinking about getting him a
> > gift box from either The Swiss Colony or Hickory Farms.
>
>
> I looked into that once, and if you add up what you really get for the
> money, it's not good. What I did was go to a cheese specialty shop,
> there I got a nicer variety of cheeses and such for far less money.
>


Swiss Colony, Hickory Farms and similar places (Wisconsin Cheeseman, etc.)
have *really* high prices for what you get, do a per - pound calculation and
you'll see (as high or higher than a luxe place like Zabars, etc.)...and
their offerings are STUFFED with preservatives, nitrites, etc.

That said, I order a lot of Swiss Colony stuff for my mom and other
relatives. It's one - stop shopping and if you buy the postage pre - paid
stuff it's not too awful. Plus which, they like it...

In past years I ordered through a friend's mom who lives up near the Swiss
Colony facility in Monroe WI. She's retired and worked in the mail order
section over the holidays just to get out of the house - *and* to get a 30%
employee discount, which I took advantage of. Alas, they seemed to have
closed that facility, so no more discounted stuff for her and her friends.
Their mail - order address hasn't changed from Monroe, however, so I don't
know what's up...outsourced to India or some place? :-)

Two really good places to order cheese, meats, etc a

www.pittmandavis.com

This is a Texas - based concern that deals mainly in citrus, but they have
some really nice cheese, meat, etc. offerings. Their stuff is top - rate
and FREE SHIPPING is included in the lower 48...and very good quality, much
better than Swiss Colony.

www.amanameatshop.com

Based out of the Amana Colonies in Amana IA (the place was founded by a
German Amish - like sect in the mid - 19th century, it's the original home
of Amana appliances...plus which this sect up until 1932 practiced true
"communism", with communal living, dining, and working arrangements). They
have a nice catalog, reasonably - priced meats and cheeses...and again free
shipping.

You can't go wrong with either of the above, as a satisfied customer of both
I highly recommend them...

--
Best
Greg

it will be ok to leave it unrefrigerated. Although in gift giving-when in
doubt, a $50 gift card to Target always works.

Sandra