Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
rice? Thanks!

--

"Anti-Catholicism is the anti-Semitism of liberals."--Peter Viereck

> wrote in message
k.net...
> Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> rice? Thanks!

In short, the fresher the better for either; you cannot
therefore say that "sashimi quality" is any different from
"sushi quality", and Gawd knows there are plenty of
bad examples of both out there...

Bob M.

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:26 GMT, wrote:

>Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher
quality
>than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
>rice? Thanks!

FYI We in Hawaii live relatively closely to Japan--and we have a lot
of Japanese influence as a result. The word <sashimi> means fresh raw
fish. The word <sushi> means a roll of rice, with small bits of
tastes in the very middle and covered in black dried seaweed-nori. I
know <sushi> has evolved to become an even fancier thing with mayo,
avocado, etc etc..... but its generic meaning is as I described. I
often stifle a grin when I see people further away from Japan that we
are, use the terms inter changeably. I agree with the post ahead of
mine, you always only want the freshest fish whether for sashimi or in
sushi.
aloha, Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

> wrote in message news:ui9Zb.587

> Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> rice? Thanks!

My understanding from my time working in Japan years ago is that 'sashimi'
denotes only the fish, whereas 'sushi' denotes the more formalized
presentation, that may include rice, seaweed, etc. Neither word is a
qualitative indicator.

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:26 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher
> quality
> >than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> >rice? Thanks!
>
> FYI We in Hawaii live relatively closely to Japan--and we have a lot
> of Japanese influence as a result. The word <sashimi> means fresh raw
> fish. The word <sushi> means a roll of rice, with small bits of
> tastes in the very middle and covered in black dried seaweed-nori. I
> know <sushi> has evolved to become an even fancier thing with mayo,
> avocado, etc etc..... but its generic meaning is as I described. I
> often stifle a grin when I see people further away from Japan that we
> are, use the terms inter changeably. I agree with the post ahead of
> mine, you always only want the freshest fish whether for sashimi or in
> sushi.
> aloha, Thunder
> http://www.smithfarms.com
> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

I'm drooling for fresh Ahi sashimi now, mahalo Thunder. May have to hit
Foodland for a block.........Yummmmmmmmmmmm!
kili

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:26 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher
> quality
> >than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> >rice? Thanks!
>
> FYI We in Hawaii live relatively closely to Japan--and we have a lot
> of Japanese influence as a result. The word <sashimi> means fresh raw
> fish. The word <sushi> means a roll of rice, with small bits of
> tastes in the very middle and covered in black dried seaweed-nori.

That's not quite correct. The term sushi refers specifically to the
vinegared rice. It may be served in a roll as you describe, but there are
many other ways of serving it.


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"John Gaquin" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message news:ui9Zb.587
>
> > Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> > than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> > rice? Thanks!
>
> My understanding from my time working in Japan years ago is that
'sashimi'
> denotes only the fish, whereas 'sushi' denotes the more formalized
> presentation, that may include rice, seaweed, etc. Neither word is a
> qualitative indicator.
>
>

"Sushi" refers specifically to the vinegared rice. You cannot have sushi
without rice.


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"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
news
>
> FYI We in Hawaii live relatively closely to Japan--and we have a lot
> of Japanese influence as a result. The word <sashimi> means fresh raw
> fish. The word <sushi> means a roll of rice, with small bits of
> tastes in the very middle and covered in black dried seaweed-nori.

That type of sushi (rolled with nori on the outside, cylindrical in shape)
is specifically called maki-zushi. The kind you roll yourself (nori on the
outside, conical in shape) is te-maki-zushi. The kind that most people
think of as sushi (rice on the bottom, a bit of wasabi, fish/egg/whatever on
top) is nigiri-zushi (except for ikura or uni, which has nori on the
outside, but is not rolled like maki-zushi). Futomaki-zushi is long, wide
maki-zushi that is not sliced. Then there's chirashi-zushi which is a whole
other topic (imo).

As for the word 'sushi', the actual kanji (Chinese characters) has nothing
to do with fish or rice at all. IIRC, the character usually used for 'su'
commonly means 'longevity' and I can't remember what 'shi' means, but not
rice or fish or vinegar. There are other variations for writing 'sushi'
which do involve 'fish' in the meaning, but not the most commonly seen one
(which is at the bottom of
http://member.nifty.ne.jp/maryy/eng/sushi_kanji.htm ). The kanji for
sashimi has nothing to do with fish, either. The best site I've seen with
definitions of different types of sushi and sashimi is at
http://www.4japan.info/Food%20-%20sushi.htm . You may have to go to
www.4japan.info first, then click on food, then sushi/sashimi.

rona
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:09:43 -0500, "John Gaquin"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message news:ui9Zb.587
>
>> Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher
quality
>> than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served
without
>> rice? Thanks!
>
>My understanding from my time working in Japan years ago is that
'sashimi'
>denotes only the fish, whereas 'sushi' denotes the more formalized
>presentation, that may include rice, seaweed, etc. Neither word is a
>qualitative indicator.
>

We agree on the common words indeed.
aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

wrote:

> Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> rice? Thanks!
>
In all sushi bars that I visit in Seattle, quality is same (cut from
same fish). Just cut differently.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:26 GMT, wrote:

>Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
>than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
>rice?

No and yes. So-called 'sushi grade' has about the same significance as
'organic' used to. It simply means either very fresh or very quickly
frozen after catching. Since sashimi is raw fish, and sushi often
*includes* raw fish, you want the highest quality possible for both.

"Frogleg" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:26 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> >than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> >rice?
>
> No and yes. So-called 'sushi grade' has about the same significance as
> 'organic' used to. It simply means either very fresh or very quickly
> frozen after catching. Since sashimi is raw fish, and sushi often
> *includes* raw fish, you want the highest quality possible for both.

But there is a specific cut of the fish that's used for sushi and sashimi.
For instance, you wouldn't want to use the stringy belly of an Ahi for
sashimi and you also don't want to use the dark dark blood red part of the
fish. You want the cleanest, clearest part, sliced just *so* thin. It
melts in your mouth then. No need fo' chew!

kili

Original mean of "su" is vinegar. "Susi" is an Japanese classic word
(adjective) that mean sour or acid.

"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" > wrote in message
...
> As for the word 'sushi', the actual kanji (Chinese characters) has nothing
> to do with fish or rice at all. IIRC, the character usually used for 'su'
> commonly means 'longevity' and I can't remember what 'shi' means, but not
> rice or fish or vinegar. There are other variations for writing 'sushi'

"chyabo" > wrote in message
...
> Original mean of "su" is vinegar. "Susi" is an Japanese classic word
> (adjective) that mean sour or acid.
>

One meaning of 'su' is vinegar, but the kanji most commonly used for 'sushi'
does not mean vinegar. The 'su' kanji that is part of 'su-shi', iirc, is
kotobuki. It means longevity, as you probably know. Here's the kanji to
which I am referring
http://www.gahoh.com/movie/jouyoukan...ku/ju3C77.html .

rona

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"John Gaquin" > wrote:


> 'sushi' denotes the more formalized
> presentation, that may include rice, seaweed, etc.

I, as a Japanese, feel it a quite interesting understanding. The English
term "sushi" means "Edomae-zushi", "Nigiri-zushi". Its originated
ralatively recent, in Edo-era. Initially, "sushi" was a fast food like
McDonald hanburger or hot-dog. No conservative Japanese restaurant in Kyoto
serve "suishi" as formal presentation.

In article >,
"SB" > wrote:

> "John Gaquin" > wrote:
>
>
> > 'sushi' denotes the more formalized
> > presentation, that may include rice, seaweed, etc.
>
> I, as a Japanese, feel it a quite interesting understanding. The English
> term "sushi" means "Edomae-zushi", "Nigiri-zushi". Its originated
> ralatively recent, in Edo-era. Initially, "sushi" was a fast food like
> McDonald hanburger or hot-dog. No conservative Japanese restaurant in Kyoto
> serve "suishi" as formal presentation.
>

Wow, this is funny. ;-)
My papasan spent 4 years in Japan when he was in the air force...
He's told me many times that he found the term "sushi" amusing because
it meant "fast food"...

He taught me to adore Sashimi but damn it's expensive!

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:43 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:48:26 GMT, wrote:
>>
>> >Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
>> >than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
>> >rice?

>But there is a specific cut of the fish that's used for sushi and sashimi.
>For instance, you wouldn't want to use the stringy belly of an Ahi for
>sashimi and you also don't want to use the dark dark blood red part of the
>fish. You want the cleanest, clearest part, sliced just *so* thin. It
>melts in your mouth then. No need fo' chew!

The OP was asking if there was one *quality* of fish used for sushi
and another for sashimi. I pointed out they both were composed (in
part, in the case of sushi) raw fish, and that the same quality would
be desirable for both preparations. Or lack of. :-) I believe the
question he raised with regard to "cut" wasn't asking about if these
were cut from different parts of the fish, but what shape/size the
pieces for the final product were. I could be wrong.

"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" > wrote in message >...
> "chyabo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Original mean of "su" is vinegar. "Susi" is an Japanese classic word
> > (adjective) that mean sour or acid.
> >
>
> One meaning of 'su' is vinegar, but the kanji most commonly used for 'sushi'
> does not mean vinegar. The 'su' kanji that is part of 'su-shi', iirc, is
> kotobuki. It means longevity, as you probably know. Here's the kanji to
> which I am referring
> http://www.gahoh.com/movie/jouyoukan...ku/ju3C77.html .

That Kanji character is a phonetic equivalent.

I would have to say that the term "sashimi quality"; does not so much
refer to the fish so much, but , as to the flesh of the meat being firm.
The meat should be as fresh as can be. The "quality" comes into play
with the over-all health of the meat. The meat should be firm and of good
color. By saying meat, this can refer to any animal protein source. Sashimi
is a style of presentation.

Kaldemious Loreman

> wrote in message
k.net...
> Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> rice? Thanks!
>
> --
>
> "Anti-Catholicism is the anti-Semitism of liberals."--Peter Viereck

I would have to say that the term "sashimi quality"; does not so much
refer to the fish so much, but , as to the flesh of the meat being firm.
The meat should be as fresh as can be. The "quality" comes into play
with the over-all health of the meat. The meat should be firm and of good
color. By saying meat, this can refer to any animal protein source. Sashimi
is a style of presentation.

Kaldemious Loreman

> wrote in message
k.net...
> Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> rice? Thanks!
>
> --
>
> "Anti-Catholicism is the anti-Semitism of liberals."--Peter Viereck

Sashimi is a type of sushi.

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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:06:10 -0500, "Kaldemious_Loreman"
> wrote:

> I would have to say that the term "sashimi quality"; does not so much
> refer to the fish so much, but , as to the flesh of the meat being firm.
> The meat should be as fresh as can be. The "quality" comes into play
> with the over-all health of the meat. The meat should be firm and of good
> color. By saying meat, this can refer to any animal protein source. Sashimi
> is a style of presentation.
>
> Kaldemious Loreman
>
> > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> > than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> > rice? Thanks!
> >


sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> Sashimi is a type of sushi.

No it isn't. Sashimi is raw fish. It never has rice (although rice is
served with it).

Sushi is seasoned rice, often with raw fish but not always (sometimes cooked
fish, sometimes not fish at all).

Hal Laurent
Baltimore

sf wrote:

>Sashimi is a type of sushi.
>
>```````````````````````````
>
>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:06:10 -0500, "Kaldemious_Loreman"
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> I would have to say that the term "sashimi quality"; does not so much
>> refer to the fish so much, but , as to the flesh of the meat being firm.
>> The meat should be as fresh as can be. The "quality" comes into play
>> with the over-all health of the meat. The meat should be firm and of good
>> color. By saying meat, this can refer to any animal protein source. Sashimi
>> is a style of presentation.
>>
>> Kaldemious Loreman
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> k.net...
>> > Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
>> > than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
>> > rice? Thanks!
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>sf
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
>
Don't think so. I think "sushi" is actually the word for vinegared rice.

Bubba

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sashimi is a type of sushi.
>
> ```````````````````````````

Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients can be
almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed, pickles, and cooked or
raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by itself (no rice).


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
m...
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Sashimi is a type of sushi.
> >
> > ```````````````````````````
>
> Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients can be
> almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed, pickles, and cooked
or
> raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by itself (no rice).
>

Correct with the qualifier that some seafood (octopus & shrimp come
to mind) can be served cooked as sashimi, yes?

pavane

"pavane" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Sashimi is a type of sushi.
> > >
> > > ```````````````````````````
> >
> > Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients can
be
> > almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed, pickles, and cooked
> or
> > raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by itself (no rice).
> >
>
> Correct with the qualifier that some seafood (octopus & shrimp come
> to mind) can be served cooked as sashimi, yes?
>
> pavane
>
>

I believe so.


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"pavane" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Sashimi is a type of sushi.
> > >
> > > ```````````````````````````
> >
> > Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients can
be
> > almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed, pickles, and cooked
> or
> > raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by itself (no rice).
> >
>
> Correct with the qualifier that some seafood (octopus & shrimp come
> to mind) can be served cooked as sashimi, yes?
>
> pavane
>
>

I believe so.


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sf wrote:
>
> Sashimi is a type of sushi.

My Japanese dictionary of food disagrees with you. Sashimi doesn't
involve rice while sushi does.



>
> ```````````````````````````
>
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:06:10 -0500, "Kaldemious_Loreman"
> > wrote:
>
> > I would have to say that the term "sashimi quality"; does not so much
> > refer to the fish so much, but , as to the flesh of the meat being firm.
> > The meat should be as fresh as can be. The "quality" comes into play
> > with the over-all health of the meat. The meat should be firm and of good
> > color. By saying meat, this can refer to any animal protein source. Sashimi
> > is a style of presentation.
> >
> > Kaldemious Loreman
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > k.net...
> > > Is the fish used for sashimi by definition (or usually) a higher quality
> > > than used for sushi, or is it just cut differently and served without
> > > rice? Thanks!
> > >
>
> sf
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:44:37 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>sf wrote:
>>
>> Sashimi is a type of sushi.
>
>My Japanese dictionary of food disagrees with you. Sashimi doesn't
>involve rice while sushi does.
>

Having lived in Hawaii with a tremendous Japanese influence all of my
life, I assure you that sashimi is raw fish (sashimi "quality" refers
to the highest quality/price of raw fish,) while sushi is vinegared
rice with stuff inside...and in olden days, before "California sushi"
was much more pedestrian than sashimi.
aloha,
Thunder
smithfarms.com
Farmers of 100% Kona Coffee
& other Great Stuff

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:44:37 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>sf wrote:
>>
>> Sashimi is a type of sushi.
>
>My Japanese dictionary of food disagrees with you. Sashimi doesn't
>involve rice while sushi does.
>

Having lived in Hawaii with a tremendous Japanese influence all of my
life, I assure you that sashimi is raw fish (sashimi "quality" refers
to the highest quality/price of raw fish,) while sushi is vinegared
rice with stuff inside...and in olden days, before "California sushi"
was much more pedestrian than sashimi.
aloha,
Thunder
smithfarms.com
Farmers of 100% Kona Coffee
& other Great Stuff

"pavane" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> m...
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Sashimi is a type of sushi.
>> >
>> > ```````````````````````````
>>
>> Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients can be
>> almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed, pickles, and cooked
> or
>> raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by itself (no rice).
>>
>
> Correct with the qualifier that some seafood (octopus & shrimp come
> to mind) can be served cooked as sashimi, yes?
>

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2044.html

Raw, fish, shrimp or octopus can be sashimi. Raw octopus is often called
"tako". Probably the most popular sashimi in Hawaii is yellow-fin tuna
("Ahi")

http://searchtuna.com/ftlive/3566.html
"Sashimi grade" means, most importantly, it is checked for parasites, as you
would not want those served to be "hosts" following the meal. Sashimi grade
tuna is also a uniform rectangular "block".

zuuum wrote:
> "pavane" > wrote in message
> m...
>>
>> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Sashimi is a type of sushi.
>>>>
>>>> ```````````````````````````
>>>
>>> Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients
>>> can be almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed,
>>> pickles, and cooked or raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by
>>> itself (no rice).
>>
>> Correct with the qualifier that some seafood (octopus & shrimp come
>> to mind) can be served cooked as sashimi, yes?
>>
>
> http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2044.html
>
> Raw, fish, shrimp or octopus can be sashimi. Raw octopus is often
> called "tako". Probably the most popular sashimi in Hawaii is yellow-
> fin tuna ("Ahi")
>
> http://searchtuna.com/ftlive/3566.html
> "Sashimi grade" means, most importantly, it is checked for parasites,
> as you would not want those served to be "hosts" following the meal.
> Sashimi grade tuna is also a uniform rectangular "block".

Yellow fin tuna sashimi is the best there is! no question.
I have enjoyed this 'fresh caught' and prepared in Central America (Pacific
coast of Costa Rica)
In Canada the regulations require that all sashimi be 'previously frozen' to
eliminate possible parasites.
Mainly to prevent the infection of a marine form of tspeworm associated with
raw salmon.
Locally I have caught and prepared sashimi made with rock cod, Lemon sole
and Halibut
Heaven!.

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In article > ,
"Peter Aitken" > wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Sashimi is a type of sushi.
> >
> > ```````````````````````````
>
> Not so. Sushi refers to the vinegared rice - the other ingredients can be
> almost anything including eggs, vegetables, seaweed, pickles, and cooked or
> raw fish. Sashimi is raw seafood served by itself (no rice).

According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi too.

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:01:58 -0000, Bubbabob
> wrote:

>Mite > wrote:
>
>> According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
>> thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
>> It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
>> meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
>> too.
>>
>> Mite
>> http://www.shopncook.com
>>
>
>Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
>favorite raw fish.

The way it is served is different, but otherwise why not?

What I wonder about with the green herring is what happeed to the
bones. When I get fresh herring in that size range, it has forked
bones like its larger relative, the American Shad.

Are North Sea herring less bony. or do they fillet them in some way
that avoids the bones?




Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Entering your freshman dorm for the first time, and seeing
an axe head come through the door on your right.

Bubbabob wrote:
>
> Mite > wrote:
>
> > According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
> > thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
> > It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
> > meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
> > too.
> >
> > Mite
> > http://www.shopncook.com
> >
>
> Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
> favorite raw fish.

Hard to say, as it's salted and preserved, although still raw.
Fresh-caught herring would certainly qualify.

Bubbabob wrote:
>
> Mite > wrote:
>
> > According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
> > thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
> > It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
> > meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
> > too.
> >
> > Mite
> > http://www.shopncook.com
> >
>
> Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
> favorite raw fish.

Hard to say, as it's salted and preserved, although still raw.
Fresh-caught herring would certainly qualify.

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:01:58 -0000, Bubbabob
> > wrote:
>
> >Mite > wrote:
> >
> >> According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
> >> thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
> >> It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
> >> meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
> >> too.
> >>
> >> Mite
> >> http://www.shopncook.com
> >>
> >
> >Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
> >favorite raw fish.
>
> The way it is served is different, but otherwise why not?
>
> What I wonder about with the green herring is what happeed to the
> bones. When I get fresh herring in that size range, it has forked
> bones like its larger relative, the American Shad.
>
> Are North Sea herring less bony. or do they fillet them in some way
> that avoids the bones?


The bones are removed. After all they've had many centuries to learn the
art

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:01:58 -0000, Bubbabob
> > wrote:
>
> >Mite > wrote:
> >
> >> According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
> >> thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
> >> It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
> >> meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
> >> too.
> >>
> >> Mite
> >> http://www.shopncook.com
> >>
> >
> >Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
> >favorite raw fish.
>
> The way it is served is different, but otherwise why not?
>
> What I wonder about with the green herring is what happeed to the
> bones. When I get fresh herring in that size range, it has forked
> bones like its larger relative, the American Shad.
>
> Are North Sea herring less bony. or do they fillet them in some way
> that avoids the bones?


The bones are removed. After all they've had many centuries to learn the
art

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:26:52 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Bubbabob wrote:
>>
>> Mite > wrote:
>>
>> > According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
>> > thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
>> > It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
>> > meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
>> > too.
>> >
>> > Mite
>> > http://www.shopncook.com
>> >
>>
>> Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
>> favorite raw fish.
>
>Hard to say, as it's salted and preserved, although still raw.
>Fresh-caught herring would certainly qualify.

I think he was talking about the "green Herring" of lat spring, not
matjes fillets. The green is really raw and served very plain, with
half the tail fin attched to each fillet. I think that serves as a
handle for those that wish to pick it up and slide it down.

I have eaten them wimp style, with a knife and fork, but I am not
Dutch. BTW, I like matjes fillets as well, but they are a totally
different thing.






Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Entering your freshman dorm for the first time, and seeing
an axe head come through the door on your right.

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:26:52 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Bubbabob wrote:
>>
>> Mite > wrote:
>>
>> > According to my Japanese dictionary, sashimi is fresh meat eaten raw,
>> > thinly cut, with soy sauce (or other).
>> > It is mostly seafood, but not only. There is basashi (sashimi of horse
>> > meat) and I think I saw once beef carpaccio referred to as sashimi
>> > too.
>> >
>> > Mite
>> > http://www.shopncook.com
>> >
>>
>> Could raw Dutch herring be considered a form of sashimi? It's by far my
>> favorite raw fish.
>
>Hard to say, as it's salted and preserved, although still raw.
>Fresh-caught herring would certainly qualify.

I think he was talking about the "green Herring" of lat spring, not
matjes fillets. The green is really raw and served very plain, with
half the tail fin attched to each fillet. I think that serves as a
handle for those that wish to pick it up and slide it down.

I have eaten them wimp style, with a knife and fork, but I am not
Dutch. BTW, I like matjes fillets as well, but they are a totally
different thing.






Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Entering your freshman dorm for the first time, and seeing
an axe head come through the door on your right.