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Default Anyone here doing Atkins?

GQ wrote:

> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?


My wife started on the Atkin's diet years ago. It worked for her. She does
not adhere to it strictly because she lost the weight that she wanted to
get rid of. She now maintains her lovely figure by avoiding starchy foods
and high carb foods. It's not like she never splurges, but she does not
eat potatoes, rice or bread ( due to various allergies), eats pasta or
barely occasionally, the odd muffin or pastry. Breakfast and lunch
usually involve things like bacon, eggs, cheese, carrots, sliced peppers,
some fruit. At dinner she has meat, vegetables, fruit, occasionally a
sweet dessert.

I don't think it is more me. Starting the day off with meat and cheese
just doesn't agree with me.


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"GQ" > wrote in message
...
> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?


My husband lost about 20 lbs. on Atkins a few years ago. (He's 6'2" and
wanted to get down to 190 lbs., which he did.) Since then, he's gained back
a few pounds, but he's been able to maintain his weight by following a
lower/smarter carb diet. My (and his) problem with Atkins was all the
saturated fat allowed on the diet. Neither of us was comfortable with
consuming so much of it.

We knew that cutting out (or at least down on) processed foods and "white
foods" (e.g., white potatoes, white rice, white flour, refined sugar, etc.)
was *always* a good idea, so we've been trying to do that. We've basically
been trying to eat lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains (substituting
white pasta with whole wheat pasta and white rice with brown rice), lean
protein, low-fat dairy (or smaller amounts of the full-fat version), and
moderate amounts of the "good" fats. I guess we're more-or-less following
the South Beach Diet in our own way.

Mary


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"GQ" > wrote in message
...
> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?


My husband lost about 20 lbs. on Atkins a few years ago. (He's 6'2" and
wanted to get down to 190 lbs., which he did.) Since then, he's gained back
a few pounds, but he's been able to maintain his weight by following a
lower/smarter carb diet. My (and his) problem with Atkins was all the
saturated fat allowed on the diet. Neither of us was comfortable with
consuming so much of it.

We knew that cutting out (or at least down on) processed foods and "white
foods" (e.g., white potatoes, white rice, white flour, refined sugar, etc.)
was *always* a good idea, so we've been trying to do that. We've basically
been trying to eat lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains (substituting
white pasta with whole wheat pasta and white rice with brown rice), lean
protein, low-fat dairy (or smaller amounts of the full-fat version), and
moderate amounts of the "good" fats. I guess we're more-or-less following
the South Beach Diet in our own way.

Mary


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MareCat wrote:

> Since then, he's gained back a few pounds, but he's
> been able to maintain his weight by following a
> lower/smarter carb diet.


About 2 years ago, I eliminated most of the carbs
from my diet, lost 40 pounds over about 9 months,
and have kept it off for over a year. I think a low-carb
approach is a good one for some people, but it may
be just as important to break your old dietary habits.

A no-grain diet might have been just as successful,
considering that grain-based foods were most of my
calories before my current diet. For somebody else,
a no-nightshade-foods diet might be the right one,
if it gets them to stop eating potatoes.

If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
I have a pet theory that for many people a
successful diet is simply something which gets
you out of your old rut.



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MareCat wrote:

> Since then, he's gained back a few pounds, but he's
> been able to maintain his weight by following a
> lower/smarter carb diet.


About 2 years ago, I eliminated most of the carbs
from my diet, lost 40 pounds over about 9 months,
and have kept it off for over a year. I think a low-carb
approach is a good one for some people, but it may
be just as important to break your old dietary habits.

A no-grain diet might have been just as successful,
considering that grain-based foods were most of my
calories before my current diet. For somebody else,
a no-nightshade-foods diet might be the right one,
if it gets them to stop eating potatoes.

If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
I have a pet theory that for many people a
successful diet is simply something which gets
you out of your old rut.



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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 18:47:31 GMT, GQ > wrote:

>Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
>has it worked for you?


I know some folks who have, but it really seems like a bad idea to me.
D's been on the South Beach diet for six months or so. I'd recommend
it. I follow it mostly, except for the beer. Heh. She's lost a
respectable amount of weight feels very good. It's been around long
enough that I'm certain you'd have no trouble finding a used copy of
the book and the companion cookbook at Amazon or Powell's.

modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore
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Mark Thorson > wrote in
:

> MareCat wrote:
>
> > Since then, he's gained back a few pounds, but he's
> > been able to maintain his weight by following a
> > lower/smarter carb diet.

>
> About 2 years ago, I eliminated most of the carbs
> from my diet, lost 40 pounds over about 9 months,
> and have kept it off for over a year. I think a low-carb
> approach is a good one for some people, but it may
> be just as important to break your old dietary habits.
>
> A no-grain diet might have been just as successful,
> considering that grain-based foods were most of my
> calories before my current diet. For somebody else,
> a no-nightshade-foods diet might be the right one,
> if it gets them to stop eating potatoes.
>
> If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
> to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
> I have a pet theory that for many people a
> successful diet is simply something which gets
> you out of your old rut.
>
>
>
>


I've limited myself to a max of 60 net carbs a day...I've lost 35 lbs
since sept 10. Started at 265 now I'm just under 230. What I truely like
about this diet is no portion control... When I get my weight down more
I'll up my carbs to 80 a day; then hello bread, pasta and rice in
moderation.

What I truely hate about this diet is no bread or rice. I can live
without the fruit, potatoes or the pasta.

I'm not really following somebodies diet plan just cutting back on my
carbs. Somedays I'll get by on under 20 carbs for 3 meals others it is
closer to 60. Depends on what I eat. I use heart smart margerine and no
butter and cook in very little canola oil. But I hold the line at 60
carbs per day. On average people on a normal food pyramid diet eat well
over 150 carbs a day. 45 carbs per meal plus the 2 snacks allowed.

And I try to include fish and walnuts at least once a week if not more
often for their omega oils. Also those flax fed chickens produce eggs
with omega 3 and 6 oils in them. Up here they're called Omega Eggs.


For example breakfast 4 eggs scrambled with some full fat shredded cheese
is well under 10 carbs.

For lunch a salmon salad: mayo,salmon, green peppers and green onions
(like you'd make a sandwich outa) and a side salad, again fairly low
carbs well under 15.

And supper tonight green beans almondine around 8 carbs and half a
rotisseried chicken under 5 carbs.
So today was 10+15+13 = around 35-40 carbs. Eating well and under the 60
carbs.

None of this weighing portion size other than to figure carbs, no 1/2 cup
portions...no portion control; basically all I want to eat. No being
hungry between or after meals or at bedtime.


lunch side salad had: mixed salad greens,baby spinach, roasted soy nuts,
onion, celery, diakon, cucumber and shredded chedar cheese maybe 7-10
carbs. It woulda had a few grape tomatoes too, but they're getting pricy.

Salad dressing was homemade garlic mayo...maybe 1 carb per tablespoon.

Homemade mayo makes a good low carb salad dressing/dip and is quite easy
to change the flavour...use tomato paste and chili powder or garlic and
shallots or use other herbs to get differing tastes for the dressing.
Reasonably low carb and healthy because you know what's in them. And
quite fast to make with a stick blender. Also a homemade dill mayo as dip
and thin cucumber slices/diakon slices or raw brocolli and cauliflower
works well as a TV watching snack.

I still bread stuff like fish, porkchops, boneless skinless chicken
thighs...I'm not a total carb nazi.

--
Starchless in Manitoba.
Type 2 Diabetic
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Mark Thorson wrote:

> If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
> to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
> I have a pet theory that for many people a
> successful diet is simply something which gets
> you out of your old rut.



And then, do not return to what you stopped, once your diet has worked.


jim


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Mark Thorson wrote:

> If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
> to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
> I have a pet theory that for many people a
> successful diet is simply something which gets
> you out of your old rut.



And then, do not return to what you stopped, once your diet has worked.


jim
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JimLane wrote:

> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
> > to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
> > I have a pet theory that for many people a
> > successful diet is simply something which gets
> > you out of your old rut.

>
> And then, do not return to what you stopped, once your diet has worked.


Oh, c'mon. Let's be reasonable here. :-)




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"GQ" > wrote in message
...
> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?


My husband did Atkins for a year and lost 60 pounds. Since the weight loss
he's gone back to eating beans, rice, cornbread (just no pasta or potatoes)
and he hasn't gained any weight. It's amazing.

kili


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Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like your're
running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying off for you.

Richard.


> I've limited myself to a max of 60 net carbs a day...I've lost 35 lbs
> since sept 10. Started at 265 now I'm just under 230. What I truely like
> about this diet is no portion control... When I get my weight down more
> I'll up my carbs to 80 a day; then hello bread, pasta and rice in
> moderation.
>
> What I truely hate about this diet is no bread or rice. I can live
> without the fruit, potatoes or the pasta.
>
> I'm not really following somebodies diet plan just cutting back on my
> carbs. Somedays I'll get by on under 20 carbs for 3 meals others it is
> closer to 60. Depends on what I eat. I use heart smart margerine and no
> butter and cook in very little canola oil. But I hold the line at 60
> carbs per day. On average people on a normal food pyramid diet eat well
> over 150 carbs a day. 45 carbs per meal plus the 2 snacks allowed.
>
> And I try to include fish and walnuts at least once a week if not more
> often for their omega oils. Also those flax fed chickens produce eggs
> with omega 3 and 6 oils in them. Up here they're called Omega Eggs.
>
>
> For example breakfast 4 eggs scrambled with some full fat shredded cheese
> is well under 10 carbs.
>
> For lunch a salmon salad: mayo,salmon, green peppers and green onions
> (like you'd make a sandwich outa) and a side salad, again fairly low
> carbs well under 15.
>
> And supper tonight green beans almondine around 8 carbs and half a
> rotisseried chicken under 5 carbs.
> So today was 10+15+13 = around 35-40 carbs. Eating well and under the 60
> carbs.
>
> None of this weighing portion size other than to figure carbs, no 1/2 cup
> portions...no portion control; basically all I want to eat. No being
> hungry between or after meals or at bedtime.
>
>
> lunch side salad had: mixed salad greens,baby spinach, roasted soy nuts,


> onion, celery, diakon, cucumber and shredded chedar cheese maybe 7-10
> carbs. It woulda had a few grape tomatoes too, but they're getting pricy.
>
> Salad dressing was homemade garlic mayo...maybe 1 carb per tablespoon.
>
> Homemade mayo makes a good low carb salad dressing/dip and is quite easy
> to change the flavour...use tomato paste and chili powder or garlic and
> shallots or use other herbs to get differing tastes for the dressing.
> Reasonably low carb and healthy because you know what's in them. And
> quite fast to make with a stick blender. Also a homemade dill mayo as dip
> and thin cucumber slices/diakon slices or raw brocolli and cauliflower
> works well as a TV watching snack.
>
> I still bread stuff like fish, porkchops, boneless skinless chicken
> thighs...I'm not a total carb nazi.
>
> --
> Starchless in Manitoba.
> Type 2 Diabetic



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Started South Beach in January as a new years resolution. I weighed 236 and
now I'm at 183 which is my desired weight. I was concerned because my
breakfasts consisted of 3 eggs each morning along with turkey bacon or some
other low carb meat so I went to my doctor and he checked me out. He took me
off my BP meds because my BP is now 120/70. He cut my cholesterol drug (40
mg zocor) in half because my numbers we good 140, bad 70. All in all, he
said I looked extremely well and to keep it up.
--

GQ wrote:
> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?





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"Richard Green" > wrote in
:

> Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> off for you.
>


Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have more
energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food combo's
and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.

--
Starchless in Manitoba.
Type 2 Diabetic
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In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> MareCat wrote:
>
> > Since then, he's gained back a few pounds, but he's
> > been able to maintain his weight by following a
> > lower/smarter carb diet.

>
> About 2 years ago, I eliminated most of the carbs
> from my diet, lost 40 pounds over about 9 months,
> and have kept it off for over a year. I think a low-carb
> approach is a good one for some people, but it may
> be just as important to break your old dietary habits.
>
> A no-grain diet might have been just as successful,
> considering that grain-based foods were most of my
> calories before my current diet. For somebody else,
> a no-nightshade-foods diet might be the right one,
> if it gets them to stop eating potatoes.
>
> If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
> to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
> I have a pet theory that for many people a
> successful diet is simply something which gets
> you out of your old rut.
>
>
>


Lifestyle changes are more effective than "diets". ;-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain
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In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> MareCat wrote:
>
> > Since then, he's gained back a few pounds, but he's
> > been able to maintain his weight by following a
> > lower/smarter carb diet.

>
> About 2 years ago, I eliminated most of the carbs
> from my diet, lost 40 pounds over about 9 months,
> and have kept it off for over a year. I think a low-carb
> approach is a good one for some people, but it may
> be just as important to break your old dietary habits.
>
> A no-grain diet might have been just as successful,
> considering that grain-based foods were most of my
> calories before my current diet. For somebody else,
> a no-nightshade-foods diet might be the right one,
> if it gets them to stop eating potatoes.
>
> If you have a weight problem, it may be useful
> to look at what you're doing now, and stop doing it.
> I have a pet theory that for many people a
> successful diet is simply something which gets
> you out of your old rut.
>
>
>


Lifestyle changes are more effective than "diets". ;-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain


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In article >,
Hahabogus > wrote:

> "Richard Green" > wrote in
> :
>
> > Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> > your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> > off for you.
> >

>
> Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have more
> energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food combo's
> and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.


Yeah... Every time I go to the Thai store now, I try a "new" food.

This week it was dried "veiled lady" mushrooms!
They are very interesting.

It's amazing what I can create with no starchy foods! No rice, pasta,
potatoes or wheat products.

It's easier than it sounds if you LIKE to cook with more fresh produce!
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell‹you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain
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In article >,
GQ > wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:42:07 -0500, yetanotherBob
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, three-
> says...
> >> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> >> has it worked for you?
> >>

> >My wife and I did what amounted to Atkins for two weeks, but we did so
> >as part of the South Beach diet. This Atkins-Lite approach had the
> >desired effect, but two weeks was plenty for both of us. Now we adhere
> >to the much more sensible and sustainable South Beach guidelines, and
> >continue to move toward our weight loss goals.
> >
> >Personally, I would not have considered Atkins by itself. South Beach
> >made a lot more sense to me, and the results have been good, even with
> >more than a few Thanksgiving deviations.

>
> So, what is the difference in Atkins and South Beach?


More fresh produce, less fat. ;-)
--
K.
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In article >,
GQ > wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:42:07 -0500, yetanotherBob
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, three-
> says...
> >> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> >> has it worked for you?
> >>

> >My wife and I did what amounted to Atkins for two weeks, but we did so
> >as part of the South Beach diet. This Atkins-Lite approach had the
> >desired effect, but two weeks was plenty for both of us. Now we adhere
> >to the much more sensible and sustainable South Beach guidelines, and
> >continue to move toward our weight loss goals.
> >
> >Personally, I would not have considered Atkins by itself. South Beach
> >made a lot more sense to me, and the results have been good, even with
> >more than a few Thanksgiving deviations.

>
> So, what is the difference in Atkins and South Beach?


More fresh produce, less fat. ;-)
--
K.
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Katra wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Hahabogus > wrote:
>
> > "Richard Green" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> > > your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> > > off for you.
> > >

> >
> > Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have more
> > energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food combo's
> > and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.

>
> Yeah... Every time I go to the Thai store now, I try a "new" food.
>
> This week it was dried "veiled lady" mushrooms!
> They are very interesting.
>
> It's amazing what I can create with no starchy foods! No rice, pasta,
> potatoes or wheat products.
>
> It's easier than it sounds if you LIKE to cook with more fresh produce!
> --
> K.
>


Beginning to think I have a strange metabolism. The only foods that make
me feel full for hours are starches; don't eat much sugar (as sugar) in
a week. Not overweight, no blood sugar problems unless I eat refined
sugar on an empty stomach LOL
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In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
> > Hahabogus > wrote:
> >
> > > "Richard Green" > wrote in
> > > :
> > >
> > > > Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> > > > your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> > > > off for you.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have more
> > > energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food combo's
> > > and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.

> >
> > Yeah... Every time I go to the Thai store now, I try a "new" food.
> >
> > This week it was dried "veiled lady" mushrooms!
> > They are very interesting.
> >
> > It's amazing what I can create with no starchy foods! No rice, pasta,
> > potatoes or wheat products.
> >
> > It's easier than it sounds if you LIKE to cook with more fresh produce!
> > --
> > K.
> >

>
> Beginning to think I have a strange metabolism. The only foods that make
> me feel full for hours are starches; don't eat much sugar (as sugar) in
> a week. Not overweight, no blood sugar problems unless I eat refined
> sugar on an empty stomach LOL


Have you tried upping the protien?

I actually have learned to eat smaller, more frequent meals. I generally
eat a small meal about every 4 hours.

It speeds weight loss. :-)
--
K.

Sprout the MungBean to reply

"I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain


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In article >,
says...
> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:42:07 -0500, yetanotherBob
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, three-
> says...
> >> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> >> has it worked for you?
> >>

> >My wife and I did what amounted to Atkins for two weeks, but we did so
> >as part of the South Beach diet. This Atkins-Lite approach had the
> >desired effect, but two weeks was plenty for both of us. Now we adhere
> >to the much more sensible and sustainable South Beach guidelines, and
> >continue to move toward our weight loss goals.
> >
> >Personally, I would not have considered Atkins by itself. South Beach
> >made a lot more sense to me, and the results have been good, even with
> >more than a few Thanksgiving deviations.

>
> So, what is the difference in Atkins and South Beach?
>

They're like night and day, in my opinion. Does that help? Probably
not. So rather than attempt to give you some sort of digest of *my*
understanding of one vs. the other, which would be inherently biased,
I'd recommend that you do your own research and decide for yourself.

There's a lot of information and opinion on both regimens (and other
similar approaches) on the web. Of course, there are the books. There
may be newsgroups devoted to each. I'd say go forth and learn, then do
what seems right for you, if indeed you think you need to do anything at
all. That's what I did. Good luck.
--
Bob
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Katra wrote:
>
> In article >, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> > Katra wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >,
> > > Hahabogus > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Richard Green" > wrote in
> > > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> > > > > your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> > > > > off for you.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have more
> > > > energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food combo's
> > > > and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.
> > >
> > > Yeah... Every time I go to the Thai store now, I try a "new" food.
> > >
> > > This week it was dried "veiled lady" mushrooms!
> > > They are very interesting.
> > >
> > > It's amazing what I can create with no starchy foods! No rice, pasta,
> > > potatoes or wheat products.
> > >
> > > It's easier than it sounds if you LIKE to cook with more fresh produce!
> > > --
> > > K.
> > >

> >
> > Beginning to think I have a strange metabolism. The only foods that make
> > me feel full for hours are starches; don't eat much sugar (as sugar) in
> > a week. Not overweight, no blood sugar problems unless I eat refined
> > sugar on an empty stomach LOL

>
> Have you tried upping the protien?


Don't think that's really an issue. Adults (other than
athletes/bodybuilders etc) only need about 100 g of protein a day.
That's quite a small serving and most days I do get that much.
High fat meals make me feel awful for hours and I'm still hungry

>
> I actually have learned to eat smaller, more frequent meals. I generally
> eat a small meal about every 4 hours.


Yes I try to do that just because it feels better.
>
> It speeds weight loss. :-)
> --
> K.


Just heard somewhere in passing that eliminating coffee and drinking
black or green tea instead can result in small weight loss for some
people.
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In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> >
> > In article >, Arri London >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Katra wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > Hahabogus > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Richard Green" > wrote in
> > > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> > > > > > your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> > > > > > off for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have
> > > > > more
> > > > > energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food
> > > > > combo's
> > > > > and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah... Every time I go to the Thai store now, I try a "new" food.
> > > >
> > > > This week it was dried "veiled lady" mushrooms!
> > > > They are very interesting.
> > > >
> > > > It's amazing what I can create with no starchy foods! No rice, pasta,
> > > > potatoes or wheat products.
> > > >
> > > > It's easier than it sounds if you LIKE to cook with more fresh produce!
> > > > --
> > > > K.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Beginning to think I have a strange metabolism. The only foods that make
> > > me feel full for hours are starches; don't eat much sugar (as sugar) in
> > > a week. Not overweight, no blood sugar problems unless I eat refined
> > > sugar on an empty stomach LOL

> >
> > Have you tried upping the protien?

>
> Don't think that's really an issue. Adults (other than
> athletes/bodybuilders etc) only need about 100 g of protein a day.
> That's quite a small serving and most days I do get that much.
> High fat meals make me feel awful for hours and I'm still hungry


100 grams of protein at an average of 4 grams per oz. is 25 oz. That's
about 1.5 lbs. ;-) You sure you are actually eating that much???

A good trick is to fill with high fiber, not fat! I like to fill up on
lots of leafy greens. Low cal, high fiber and they not only fill you up,
the keep you, uh, "regular" if you catch my drift. <lol>

>
> >
> > I actually have learned to eat smaller, more frequent meals. I generally
> > eat a small meal about every 4 hours.

>
> Yes I try to do that just because it feels better.
> >
> > It speeds weight loss. :-)
> > --
> > K.

>
> Just heard somewhere in passing that eliminating coffee and drinking
> black or green tea instead can result in small weight loss for some
> people.


Green tea is a better metabolic enhancer (fat burner) than coffee ever
dreamed of being. Less harsh of a stimulant as well, or so I've found
personally!
--
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Katra wrote:
>
> In article >, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> > Katra wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >, Arri London >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Katra wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article >,
> > > > > Hahabogus > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Richard Green" > wrote in
> > > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Congratulations. I guess sometimes day in and day out it seems like
> > > > > > > your're running a marathon, but I'm glad your hard work is paying
> > > > > > > off for you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually I enjoy my new lifestyle, because I feel better and have
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > energy. I also enjoy the challenges of creating new (to me) food
> > > > > > combo's
> > > > > > and menu ideas. So I don't think of it as work never mind hard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah... Every time I go to the Thai store now, I try a "new" food.
> > > > >
> > > > > This week it was dried "veiled lady" mushrooms!
> > > > > They are very interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's amazing what I can create with no starchy foods! No rice, pasta,
> > > > > potatoes or wheat products.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's easier than it sounds if you LIKE to cook with more fresh produce!
> > > > > --
> > > > > K.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Beginning to think I have a strange metabolism. The only foods that make
> > > > me feel full for hours are starches; don't eat much sugar (as sugar) in
> > > > a week. Not overweight, no blood sugar problems unless I eat refined
> > > > sugar on an empty stomach LOL
> > >
> > > Have you tried upping the protien?

> >
> > Don't think that's really an issue. Adults (other than
> > athletes/bodybuilders etc) only need about 100 g of protein a day.
> > That's quite a small serving and most days I do get that much.
> > High fat meals make me feel awful for hours and I'm still hungry

>
> 100 grams of protein at an average of 4 grams per oz. is 25 oz. That's
> about 1.5 lbs. ;-) You sure you are actually eating that much???


There is more than 4 grams of protein per ounce (28 g) of meat. Typical
values run around 20--25 percent, which would be more like 7 grams per
28 g. Remember there is protein in dairy products, eggs and beans, which
may contain more than 25 percent protein. So getting 100 g of protein in
a European-type diet is very easy. Certainly I can eat about 3/4 lb
(rather than the 1.5 lb) of protein-containing foods in a day.

The majority of European and American adults eat far more protein than
is needed for good health.
>
> A good trick is to fill with high fiber, not fat!


Doesn't work for me.

I like to fill up on
> lots of leafy greens. Low cal, high fiber and they not only fill you up,
> the keep you, uh, "regular" if you catch my drift. <lol>


That has never ever been a problem on my normal diet. We eat a lot of
fruit and vegs every day.


>
> >
> > >
> > > I actually have learned to eat smaller, more frequent meals. I generally
> > > eat a small meal about every 4 hours.

> >
> > Yes I try to do that just because it feels better.
> > >
> > > It speeds weight loss. :-)
> > > --
> > > K.

> >
> > Just heard somewhere in passing that eliminating coffee and drinking
> > black or green tea instead can result in small weight loss for some
> > people.

>
> Green tea is a better metabolic enhancer (fat burner) than coffee ever
> dreamed of being. Less harsh of a stimulant as well, or so I've found
> personally!
> --
> K.



I just like it, especially when there are wagashi (Japanese sweets) or
rice crackers to go with.
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In article >, GQ
> wrote:

> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?


I'm doing it - or rather, was. I'm currently on a little haitus.
However, I've lost (and kept off) nearly 100 pounds. I have more to go,
but will re-start in a couple of weeks.

--
Nancy Howells (don't forget to switch it, and replace the to send mail).


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GQ wrote:

> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> has it worked for you?


I don't do atkins. I do the really strange and not too much used method of
eating moderately and getting exercise. I think low carb is a necessity for
people with blood sugar problems. otherwise, people would benefit from
moderation and exercise.


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"A.C." wrote:

> I don't do atkins. I do the really strange and not too much used method of
> eating moderately and getting exercise. I think low carb is a necessity for
> people with blood sugar problems. otherwise, people would benefit from
> moderation and exercise.


Count yourself lucky that it works for you. I have always had trouble keeping
my weight down. I have always been pretty active and am not a big eater. My
oldest brother was always very lean, never very active, and he ate like a
horse. My neighbour is skinny. He makes Peewee Herman look like Arnold
Schwarznegger, and I am amazed at how much food he packs away. His wife cooks
fabulous Italian dinners. I don't know where he put five the big pieces of her
lasagna as well as two or three servings of everything else, and he still had
room for seconds of desert. You know it's just not fair.


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> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 16:44:19 GMT, Nancy Howells
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, GQ
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> >> has it worked for you?

> >
> >I'm doing it - or rather, was. I'm currently on a little haitus.
> >However, I've lost (and kept off) nearly 100 pounds. I have more to go,
> >but will re-start in a couple of weeks.

>
> Why would anyone go on Atkins? You'd have to be a complete idiot.
> The guy died as a result of his own diet. WAKE UP !!!!
> And, why do you need ANYONE to tell you how to diet? Are you too
> stupid to figure out by yourself that all you need to do is stop
> eating like a pig, and get some exercise. How hard is that?
> A good head shrink will do you more good than Atkins, because they can
> help you overcome your addiction to food, if you dont have any self
> control.
>


You are astonisingly ignorant.


--
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> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 16:44:19 GMT, Nancy Howells
> > wrote:
>
>>In article >, GQ
> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
>>> has it worked for you?

>>
>>I'm doing it - or rather, was. I'm currently on a little haitus.
>>However, I've lost (and kept off) nearly 100 pounds. I have more to go,
>>but will re-start in a couple of weeks.

>
> Why would anyone go on Atkins? You'd have to be a complete idiot.
> The guy died as a result of his own diet. WAKE UP !!!!
> And, why do you need ANYONE to tell you how to diet? Are you too
> stupid to figure out by yourself that all you need to do is stop
> eating like a pig, and get some exercise. How hard is that?
> A good head shrink will do you more good than Atkins, because they can
> help you overcome your addiction to food, if you dont have any self
> control.


I agree with a previous poster who stated you are astonishingly stupid. You
truly are.
Dr Atkins did not die from his own diet. He died from a head injury he
received after falling down on ice. I remember the story, but looked it up
again anyway. That evening, some people I chat with joked that it's how life
goes.. eat right, exercise, and die anyway. ha
That said, I have never and never will try the Atkins diet. It is a heart
attack waiting to happen. Yes, I know people lose weight on it. The weight
loss is a result of them not eating all the sugar, flour and processed
foods, and anyone would lose weight eating that way. When people go off it,
the weight piles back on. However, even Dr Atkins himself was obese, and
had hypertension (high blood pressure), and a heart attack, and congestive
heart failure.. before his death.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/10/atkins.widow.ap/
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me wrote:

> the weight piles back on. However, even Dr Atkins himself was obese, and
> had hypertension (high blood pressure), and a heart attack, and congestive
> heart failure.. before his death.


It would be kinda hard to have those ailments after one's death, no?

nancy
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> me wrote:
>
>> the weight piles back on. However, even Dr Atkins himself was obese, and
>> had hypertension (high blood pressure), and a heart attack, and
>> congestive
>> heart failure.. before his death.

>
> It would be kinda hard to have those ailments after one's death, no?
>
> nancy

I meant those were not the *cause* of his death.
But I think you knew what I meant. Please continue posting and not
contributing anything worth reading.
lucy


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In article >,
wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 16:44:19 GMT, Nancy Howells
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, GQ
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyone here doing Atkin's Diet? If so, how do you like it and
> >> has it worked for you?

> >
> >I'm doing it - or rather, was. I'm currently on a little haitus.
> >However, I've lost (and kept off) nearly 100 pounds. I have more to go,
> >but will re-start in a couple of weeks.

>
> Why would anyone go on Atkins? You'd have to be a complete idiot.
> The guy died as a result of his own diet. WAKE UP !!!!
> And, why do you need ANYONE to tell you how to diet? Are you too
> stupid to figure out by yourself that all you need to do is stop
> eating like a pig, and get some exercise. How hard is that?
> A good head shrink will do you more good than Atkins, because they can
> help you overcome your addiction to food, if you dont have any self
> control.
>
>


You are SO clueless!
The vast majority of really obese people have a problem with insulin
resistance...

And, Atkins did not die from his diet.

He slipped on some ice and died of a head injury!

Moron......

I used to log and keep track of calories.
Wrote down everything I ate every day and added up protien grams, fat
grams and carb. grams.

I got down to 600 calories per day and STILL could not lose a friggin'
single lb!!!!

Hypothyroidism and insulin resistance.

A low carb diet is mandatory for that.

Do some research before you spout off bullshit!
--
K.

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"me" > wrote in
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>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
> > me wrote:
> >
> >> the weight piles back on. However, even Dr Atkins himself was
> >> obese, and had hypertension (high blood pressure), and a heart
> >> attack, and congestive
> >> heart failure.. before his death.

> >
> > It would be kinda hard to have those ailments after one's death,
> > no?
> >
> > nancy

> I meant those were not the *cause* of his death.
> But I think you knew what I meant. Please continue posting and not
> contributing anything worth reading.
> lucy
>
>
>


Why would I wish to post and not contribute? when I could post and
contribute? I want to mention I've lost 40 lbs following the good Dr.'s
advice and my Insulin Resistance and my Blood pressure are falling back
closer to in-line with healthy. I didn't follow all of his advice just
some of it. So I've dropped from morbidly obese to obese (my plan is to
reach plain old fat). And I'm down from having a double chin to a 1 1/2
chin. Who says losing weight can't be fun?

--
Starchless in Manitoba.
Type 2 Diabetic
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In article >,
Hahabogus > wrote:

> "me" > wrote in
> . com:
>
> >
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > me wrote:
> > >
> > >> the weight piles back on. However, even Dr Atkins himself was
> > >> obese, and had hypertension (high blood pressure), and a heart
> > >> attack, and congestive
> > >> heart failure.. before his death.
> > >
> > > It would be kinda hard to have those ailments after one's death,
> > > no?
> > >
> > > nancy

> > I meant those were not the *cause* of his death.
> > But I think you knew what I meant. Please continue posting and not
> > contributing anything worth reading.
> > lucy
> >
> >
> >

>
> Why would I wish to post and not contribute? when I could post and
> contribute? I want to mention I've lost 40 lbs following the good Dr.'s
> advice and my Insulin Resistance and my Blood pressure are falling back
> closer to in-line with healthy. I didn't follow all of his advice just
> some of it. So I've dropped from morbidly obese to obese (my plan is to
> reach plain old fat). And I'm down from having a double chin to a 1 1/2
> chin. Who says losing weight can't be fun?


You and hundreds of thousands of other people... ;-)
My will power to leave carbs alone is not as good as it should be, but
my ketones are staying at "trace" and I seem to be losing about 1 lb.
per week.

All in good time!

I love green veggies, and have finally found a decent low carb tortilla.
Only 8 grams each and I allow myself 2 per day.
--
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