I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
The conversation deteriorated from the

SO How about if I jack up the temperature to 180°? Then they'd be at
room temp.

Me You can pay the heating bill in full then.

SO Who made up the rules about when you can eat brownies?

Me Betty Crocker. Joy of Cooking. The CEO of Krusteaz (maker of the
brownie mix he used).

SO I don't believe it. You're just being a flour Nazi to keep me from
instant gratification.

Cindy, flour Nazi

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

>I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
>the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
>eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
>The conversation deteriorated from the


Okay, the part I don't get is why was he asking you when he could slice and eat
the brownies that HE made? I understand why you have to wait before cutting
them if you don't want them to fall apart but if he wanted to go ahead and eat
them then I don't see what the problem was. Now if you had made the brownies
you'd have every right to tell him hands off.

Cindy Fuller wrote:

> I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
> the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
> eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
> The conversation deteriorated from the
>
> SO How about if I jack up the temperature to 180°? Then they'd be at
> room temp.
>
> Me You can pay the heating bill in full then.
>
> SO Who made up the rules about when you can eat brownies?
>
> Me Betty Crocker. Joy of Cooking. The CEO of Krusteaz (maker of the
> brownie mix he used).
>
> SO I don't believe it. You're just being a flour Nazi to keep me from
> instant gratification.
>
> Cindy, flour Nazi
>


Last time I baked brownies, Wife asked if we could cut them (as soon as
they had came out the of the oven.) I told her no, they had to cool
first, and they would taste better anyway after they fell. She grabbed
a big spoon and helped herself to a huge portion right away anyway,
while they were still scaldingly hot. DD wanted some and I told her to
wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not a
self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded and waited about 10 or
15 minutes for them to cool.

The brownies were wonderful when they were fresh and just warm. They
really aren't very good if you eat them too hot -- even with ice cream.

Best regards,
Bob

DJS0302 wrote:

>>I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
>>the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
>>eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
>>The conversation deteriorated from the
>
>
>
> Okay, the part I don't get is why was he asking you when he could slice and eat
> the brownies that HE made? I understand why you have to wait before cutting
> them if you don't want them to fall apart but if he wanted to go ahead and eat
> them then I don't see what the problem was. Now if you had made the brownies
> you'd have every right to tell him hands off.


That's a very good point. When I read it, I missed the part about who'd
made them.

Bob

zxcvbob > wrote in :

> Last time I baked brownies, Wife asked if we could cut them (as soon as
> they had came out the of the oven.) I told her no, they had to cool
> first, and they would taste better anyway after they fell. She grabbed
> a big spoon and helped herself to a huge portion right away anyway,
> while they were still scaldingly hot. DD wanted some and I told her to
> wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not a
> self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded and waited about 10 or
> 15 minutes for them to cool.
>
> The brownies were wonderful when they were fresh and just warm. They
> really aren't very good if you eat them too hot -- even with ice cream.
>
> Best regards,
> Bob
>

There's nothing I'd like to do more than cut into a pie hot out of the
oven, but I know better. Most people do know better about cutting into
piping hot baked goods. What is it with those that persist in doing so?
Sheer piggishness?

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> zxcvbob > wrote in :
>
>
>>Last time I baked brownies, Wife asked if we could cut them (as soon as
>>they had came out the of the oven.) I told her no, they had to cool
>>first, and they would taste better anyway after they fell. She grabbed
>>a big spoon and helped herself to a huge portion right away anyway,
>>while they were still scaldingly hot. DD wanted some and I told her to
>>wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not a
>>self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded and waited about 10 or
>>15 minutes for them to cool.
>>
>>The brownies were wonderful when they were fresh and just warm. They
>>really aren't very good if you eat them too hot -- even with ice cream.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Bob
>>
>
>
> There's nothing I'd like to do more than cut into a pie hot out of the
> oven, but I know better. Most people do know better about cutting into
> piping hot baked goods. What is it with those that persist in doing so?
> Sheer piggishness?
>

Masochists wanting a burned mouth?


jim

In article >,
ospam (DJS0302) wrote:

> CJ wrote:

> > I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it.
> > Tonight the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he
> > could slice and eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to
> > room temperature." The conversation deteriorated from the
>
>
> Okay, the part I don't get is why was he asking you when he could
> slice and eat the brownies that HE made? I understand why you have
> to wait before cutting them if you don't want them to fall apart but
> if he wanted to go ahead and eat them then I don't see what the
> problem was. Now if you had made the brownies you'd have every right
> to tell him hands off.

OK, the SO feels obligated to respond, since some dear readers may not
know the history.

I tend to defer to CJ's expertise when I do baking, since that's her
specialty. I seldom bake things more complicated than brownie mix, or
basic pies. But we do share the cooking responsibilities in other
areas. And we also do a lot of (mostly good-natured) trash-talking
about each other's kitchen skills and cooking exploits.

So the term "flour Nazi" was not a commentary on her political
inclinations. It was a riff on the "soup Nazi" in the famous Seinfeld
episode about the talented-but-imperious proprietor of a lunch truck.

--
Julian Vrieslander

In article
>,
Cindy Fuller > wrote:

> I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
> the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
> eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
> The conversation deteriorated from the


I'm with Julian. He can eat them when he darn well wants to. There's
something to be said for instant gratification. Go, Julian!!
--
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birthday telling; Thanksgiving 2004; Fanfare, Maestro, please.
"Are we going to measure or are we going to cook?" -Food writer
Mimi Sheraton

In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> zxcvbob > wrote in

> > The brownies were wonderful when they were fresh and just warm. They
> > really aren't very good if you eat them too hot -- even with ice cream.

> There's nothing I'd like to do more than cut into a pie hot out of the
> oven, but I know better. Most people do know better about cutting into
> piping hot baked goods. What is it with those that persist in doing so?
> Sheer piggishness?

You know better? You know what better? If the digee burns mouth, at
least it's not your mouth. OK, the pie filling will thicken on cooling,
most likely, but if digee doesn't care, what's it to ya? "-) You've
never eaten a chocolate chip cookie that's still hot from the oven
(warmer than "warm cookie")? Tsk, tsk. A misspent youth.
--
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birthday telling; Thanksgiving 2004; Fanfare, Maestro, please.
"Are we going to measure or are we going to cook?" -Food writer
Mimi Sheraton

zxcvbob wrote:
> Cindy Fuller wrote:
>
>> I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it.
> Last time I baked brownies, Wife asked if we could cut them (as soon
> as they had came out the of the oven.) I told her no, they had to
> cool first, and they would taste better anyway after they fell. She
> grabbed a big spoon and helped herself to a huge portion right away
> anyway, while they were still scaldingly hot. DD wanted some and I
> told her to wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not
> a self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded
> Bob

Bob, if that just doesn't take the cake! (or the brownie, in this instance!)
Telling your daughter her mother is a self-absorbed idiot? I'd like to slap
you upside the head with a pan of hot brownies. And she would probably
"agreeded" when I explained why her dad had hot sticky brownies all over his
head. Shame on you!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
>
>>Cindy Fuller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it.
>>
>>Last time I baked brownies, Wife asked if we could cut them (as soon
>>as they had came out the of the oven.) I told her no, they had to
>>cool first, and they would taste better anyway after they fell. She
>>grabbed a big spoon and helped herself to a huge portion right away
>>anyway, while they were still scaldingly hot. DD wanted some and I
>>told her to wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not
>>a self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded
>>Bob
>
>
> Bob, if that just doesn't take the cake! (or the brownie, in this instance!)
> Telling your daughter her mother is a self-absorbed idiot? I'd like to slap
> you upside the head with a pan of hot brownies. And she would probably
> "agreeded" when I explained why her dad had hot sticky brownies all over his
> head. Shame on you!
>
> Jill
>


Shame on yourself.

I made the brownies to take to another couple's house where we were
invited for supper/to play cards. They are friends of Wife and
aquaintances of mine.

I baked just enough brownies for us to to each have one when they were
ready to cut and we'd wrap up the rest on a plate. Wife asked me if she
could cut them, in front of DD, and when I said "no" she scooped out a
huge portion for herself anyway and risked ruining most of the batch. I
answered DD "because YOU'RE not a self-absorbed idiot" (or maybe it was
"selfish idiot") I didn't have to say "like your mother" because it was
understood -- DD lives here, you don't.

I shouldn't have brought this story up in the first place, but it seemed
like a good idea last night.

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it.
>>>
>>> Last time I baked brownies, Wife asked if we could cut them (as soon
>>> as they had came out the of the oven.) I told her no, they had to
>>> cool first, and they would taste better anyway after they fell. She
>>> grabbed a big spoon and helped herself to a huge portion right away
>>> anyway, while they were still scaldingly hot. DD wanted some and I
>>> told her to wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is
>>> not
>>> a self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded
>>> Bob
>>
>>
>> Bob, if that just doesn't take the cake! (or the brownie, in this
>> instance!) Telling your daughter her mother is a self-absorbed
>> idiot? I'd like to slap you upside the head with a pan of hot
>> brownies. And she would probably "agreeded" when I explained why
>> her dad had hot sticky brownies all over his head. Shame on you!
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Shame on yourself.
>
> I made the brownies to take to another couple's house where we were
> invited for supper/to play cards. They are friends of Wife and
> aquaintances of mine.
>
You didn't say that, though. Of course there are lots of things we don't
say here but which we think to ourselves and would hope would be conveyed
via a long association as posters here. So, forgive me.

> I baked just enough brownies for us to to each have one when they were
> ready to cut and we'd wrap up the rest on a plate. Wife asked me if
> she could cut them, in front of DD, and when I said "no" she scooped
> out a
> huge portion for herself anyway and risked ruining most of the batch.
> I answered DD "because YOU'RE not a self-absorbed idiot" (or maybe it
> was "selfish idiot") I didn't have to say "like your mother" because
> it was understood -- DD lives here, you don't.
>
True enough. And a gift (thoughtful thing that) of brownies when going to
play cards with friends/acquaintances is a nice thing.

I apologize. However, DD probably knows her mom is whatever she is without
it being pointed out, if it was so, rather so bluntly.

Friends? I do love your posts

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> True enough. And a gift (thoughtful thing that) of brownies when going to
> play cards with friends/acquaintances is a nice thing.
>
> I apologize. However, DD probably knows her mom is whatever she is without
> it being pointed out, if it was so, rather so bluntly.
>
> Friends? I do love your posts
>
> Jill


Apology accepted. Actually, there was little need to apologize; it
wasn't that big a deal, and I shouldn't have posted the anecdote in the
first place -- my judgement is sometimes not at its best late at night.

Of course, if no one ever posted anything inappropriate, this group
would have very little to talk about. :-)


Best regards,
Bob

I believe it would take about 20 minutes to dry up totally.
Scrooge

>> Of course, if no one ever posted anything inappropriate, this group
> would have very little to talk about. :-)
>
>
> Best regards,
> Bob

I believe it would take about 20 minutes to dry up totally.
Scrooge

>> Of course, if no one ever posted anything inappropriate, this group
> would have very little to talk about. :-)
>
>
> Best regards,
> Bob

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..

> You didn't say that, though. Of course there are lots of things we don't
> say here but which we think to ourselves and would hope would be conveyed
> via a long association as posters here. So, forgive me.


Lurking but had to add... It almost seems like there should be a moratorium
of some kind concerning behavior around freshly baked brownies. I can think
of few things more tantalizing and inviting of various indiscretions with
spoons, shovels, what have you.

"Cindy Fuller" > wrote in message
...
> I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
> the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
> eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
> The conversation deteriorated from the
>
> SO How about if I jack up the temperature to 180°? Then they'd be at
> room temp.
>
> Me You can pay the heating bill in full then.
>
> SO Who made up the rules about when you can eat brownies?
>
> Me Betty Crocker. Joy of Cooking. The CEO of Krusteaz (maker of the
> brownie mix he used).
>
> SO I don't believe it. You're just being a flour Nazi to keep me from
> instant gratification.
>
> Cindy, flour Nazi
>
> --
> C.J. Fuller


ROFL...too funny!
Personally, I do cut a "tester" brownie, as soon as it's cool enough to
handle without hospitalization.

kimberly

Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
:

> In article >, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> zxcvbob > wrote in
>
>> > The brownies were wonderful when they were fresh and just warm. They
>> > really aren't very good if you eat them too hot -- even with ice
>> > cream.
>
>> There's nothing I'd like to do more than cut into a pie hot out of the
>> oven, but I know better. Most people do know better about cutting into
>> piping hot baked goods. What is it with those that persist in doing
>> so? Sheer piggishness?
>
> You know better? You know what better? If the digee burns mouth, at
> least it's not your mouth. OK, the pie filling will thicken on cooling,
> most likely, but if digee doesn't care, what's it to ya? "-) You've
> never eaten a chocolate chip cookie that's still hot from the oven
> (warmer than "warm cookie")? Tsk, tsk. A misspent youth.

heh heh! If I had to pick a lesson learned, it was one of many years ago
when I was served a piece of shoo-fly pie that was just out of the oven.
Few things burn the mouth worse than piping hot molasses! Ouch! Yeah,
yeah, I've been known to scarf down very warm chocolate chip cookies. I
just wouldn't want to mess up a nice pan of brownies or a nice pie.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:

> DD wanted some and I told her to
> wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not a
> self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded and waited about 10 or
> 15 minutes for them to cool.

Yikes Bob! Does she know you talk about her like that here?

Regards,
Ranee

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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:13:29 -0600, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>DJS0302 wrote:
>
>>>I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
>>>the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
>>>eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
>>>The conversation deteriorated from the
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, the part I don't get is why was he asking you when he could slice and eat
>> the brownies that HE made? I understand why you have to wait before cutting
>> them if you don't want them to fall apart but if he wanted to go ahead and eat
>> them then I don't see what the problem was. Now if you had made the brownies
>> you'd have every right to tell him hands off.
>
>
>That's a very good point. When I read it, I missed the part about who'd
>made them.
>
>Bob

Yeah, but he asked her: "He asked when he could slice and
eat them." He asked, she answered, and then...


modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

Ranee Mueller wrote:
> In article >, zxcvbob
> > wrote:
>
>
>> DD wanted some and I told her to
>>wait. When she protested, I reminded her that she is not a
>>self-absorbed idiot like her mother; she agreeded and waited about 10 or
>>15 minutes for them to cool.
>
>
> Yikes Bob! Does she know you talk about her like that here?
>
> Regards,
> Ranee
>


It was a stupid thing to say *here*, but it was somewhat appropriate at
the time I originally said it. She disrespected me in front of the kid
first, and I left me in a difficult position. The best I could do was
point out to DD that her mom's bad behavior didn't excuse her; I
expected a lot better from her.

Because I occasionally slip up and shoot my mouth off in usenet is one
of the reasons I NEVER mention family by their names, and I always post
using a pseudonym.

DD know her mom's character flaw, and she knows mine, and we both know
hers. And y'all don't know their real names and I try not to reveal too
much else.

Bob

Cindy Fuller wrote:

> I've been called many things over the years, but this tops it. Tonight
> the SO decided to make some brownies. He asked when he could slice and
> eat them. My response was, "When they're cooled to room temperature."
> The conversation deteriorated from there...
>
> Cindy, flour Nazi
>


A 98 year-old man lay on his death bed. According to his doctor, he
would not live to see another sunrise. Suddenly he became aware of the
ever increasing scent of freshly baked chocolate chip cookies coming
from the kitchen 2 floors below. He thought, "Before I leave this world,
I MUST have just one of my wife's wonderful chocolate chip cookies."
After all, it was such a batch of cookies made by his wife that first
won his heart almost 80 years ago when they were first dating. What
better way to depart this life than with the warm and loving taste of
his wife's cookies still lingering on his palate?

The man bravely and arduously rolled himself in his bed until he was
finally able to fall off of the bed onto the floor. He then pulled
himself by his elbows, out of the room, into the hallway.

He continued to pull himself to the stairwell where he backed himself
down the 2 flights of stairs, painfully sliding down one step at a time.
The man then pulled himself through the parlor, living room, dining room
and finally into the kitchen.

Tears swelled in his eyes as he contemplated all of the love that his
wife had put into that final batch of cookies. This was a most
appropriate final act of love offered to him by the woman who had shared
her life with him for all these years.

He pulled himself to the counter top where the cooling batch of cookies
lay, sending their aroma deep into his nostrils and announcing to the
world that his wife's love for him was most certainly as fresh and warm
today as on the day she married him.

He rested his weight on his left elbow and with shaking determination,
ever so slowly raised his right arm to a point that put his fingers so
close to the cookies that he could feel the rising heat caressing his
fingertips.

His wife turned her head and noticed her husband in his galant struggle
to reach for the cookies. She smacked his hand with her wooden spoon and
said, "Oh no you don't, THOSE are for the funeral!"

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob wrote:

> DD know her mom's character flaw, and she knows mine, and we both
> know hers. And y'all don't know their real names and I try not to
> reveal too much else.

What's DD stand for? Darlin' Daughter?

Do Mom and DD know you post about them on the 'net?

In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:

> It was a stupid thing to say *here*, but it was somewhat appropriate at
> the time I originally said it. She disrespected me in front of the kid
> first, and I left me in a difficult position. The best I could do was
> point out to DD that her mom's bad behavior didn't excuse her; I
> expected a lot better from her.
>
> Because I occasionally slip up and shoot my mouth off in usenet is one
> of the reasons I NEVER mention family by their names, and I always post
> using a pseudonym.
>
> DD know her mom's character flaw, and she knows mine, and we both know
> hers. And y'all don't know their real names and I try not to reveal too
> much else.

That's fair. I'm sorry about the family situation. I realized a
while ago that it wasn't right for me to be talking about my mom or
inlaws online, even if they never saw it. I was just so surprised that
you wrote what you did, since you always seem to me to keep personal
things personal.

Regards,
Ranee

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Ranee Mueller wrote:
> In article >, zxcvbob
> > wrote:
>
>
>>It was a stupid thing to say *here*, but it was somewhat appropriate at
>>the time I originally said it. She disrespected me in front of the kid
>>first, and I left me in a difficult position. The best I could do was
>>point out to DD that her mom's bad behavior didn't excuse her; I
>>expected a lot better from her.
>>
>>Because I occasionally slip up and shoot my mouth off in usenet is one
>>of the reasons I NEVER mention family by their names, and I always post
>>using a pseudonym.
>>
>>DD know her mom's character flaw, and she knows mine, and we both know
>>hers. And y'all don't know their real names and I try not to reveal too
>>much else.
>
>
> That's fair. I'm sorry about the family situation. I realized a
> while ago that it wasn't right for me to be talking about my mom or
> inlaws online, even if they never saw it. I was just so surprised that
> you wrote what you did, since you always seem to me to keep personal
> things personal.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee
>


After thinking about it I actually appreciate you and Jill for calling
me on this; I got defensive cuz I knew I was wrong. (maybe not as wrong
as Jill made it out, but wrong nevertheless :-)

I *do* try to keep personal stuff out of usenet -- except for a Cute DD*
story every once in a while. But if I'm not on my guard it creeps in.
I'll be more careful.

Thanks, regards,
Bob

*Darlin' Daughter, since Mark asked about it.