Before starting work at the wine and cheese shop, we kept Kraft
processed cheese in the fridge in those individual sandwich slices.
This was known as "dog cheese" as it was perfect for wrapping around
pills and tossing to the dog. As the dog is essentially healthy, she
doesn't need medicine often, and one pack lasted for years-- without
going bad, I might add. We bought bricks of sharp cheddar at the
supermarket for ourselves.


Now that I'm working at a store with a fabulous selection of cheeses
from all over the world, we haven't bought a brick of that factory made
Wisconsin cheese for months. We're eating 5 year aged gouda that has an
indescribable richness of flavor that almost tastes like caramel the way
the aromas form in the mouth. We're eating buttery gruyeres unlike
everything else I knew by that name. The simplest grilled cheese
sandwiches are tranformed by Ossau Iraty which is a ewe's milk cheese
from the Basque region of France, and I'm starting to understand the
subtle differences in chevres.


And when the dog needed antibiotics recently, we went out and bought one
of those bricks of factory made cheddar for her. She says it is highly
acceptable.


--Lia

In article <wA8td.621017$mD.309442@attbi_s02>,
Julia Altshuler > wrote:

> Before starting work at the wine and cheese shop, we kept Kraft
> processed cheese in the fridge in those individual sandwich slices.
> This was known as "dog cheese" as it was perfect for wrapping around
> pills and tossing to the dog. As the dog is essentially healthy, she
> doesn't need medicine often, and one pack lasted for years-- without
> going bad, I might add. We bought bricks of sharp cheddar at the
> supermarket for ourselves.
>
>
> Now that I'm working at a store with a fabulous selection of cheeses
> from all over the world, we haven't bought a brick of that factory made
> Wisconsin cheese for months. We're eating 5 year aged gouda that has an
> indescribable richness of flavor that almost tastes like caramel the way
> the aromas form in the mouth. We're eating buttery gruyeres unlike
> everything else I knew by that name. The simplest grilled cheese
> sandwiches are tranformed by Ossau Iraty which is a ewe's milk cheese
> from the Basque region of France, and I'm starting to understand the
> subtle differences in chevres.
>
>
> And when the dog needed antibiotics recently, we went out and bought one
> of those bricks of factory made cheddar for her. She says it is highly
> acceptable.
>
>
We keep Gerber baby meat for our bums for post-grooming and training
session treats. When our elder statescat was diagnosed with
hyperthyroidism, we started giving her her pills in a hunk of baby food.
The pill goes down quite nicely encased in baby food, especially veal.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

Cindy Fuller wrote:

> When our elder statescat was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism,
> we started giving her her pills in a hunk of baby food.
> The pill goes down quite nicely encased in baby food,
> especially veal.

If you don't have a device called a pill pusher, get one.
You and your cat will both appreciate it. Saves a lot
of time and hard feelings on both ends.

I can't believe how long I had to deal with that
problem before the vet suggested it.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Cindy Fuller wrote:
>
>> When our elder statescat was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism,
>> we started giving her her pills in a hunk of baby food.
>> The pill goes down quite nicely encased in baby food,
>> especially veal.
>
> If you don't have a device called a pill pusher, get one.
> You and your cat will both appreciate it. Saves a lot
> of time and hard feelings on both ends.
>
> I can't believe how long I had to deal with that
> problem before the vet suggested it.

Some cats are just too smart for that. Mine won't take a pill encased in
*anything* although the dog didn't mind the Velveeta around the pill trick.
I found pilling Persia to be a breeze, really. All you have to do is
wrestle the cat (LOL) - no, just get the cat in your lap, put an arm around
him/her. Pry open the jaws, shove the pill in, close the jaws and then blow
gently on the cats nose. They swallow reflexively. Sounds much harder than
it is

I am, however, adding cheese to my grocery list. The "good stuff" I'm
down to 1/4 lb. of white cheddar and Peccorino Romano at the moment.
Craving some gouda and fontina and gruyere and brie.

Jill

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 04:34:53 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Some cats are just too smart for that. Mine won't take a pill encased in
>*anything* although the dog didn't mind the Velveeta around the pill trick.
>I found pilling Persia to be a breeze, really. All you have to do is
>wrestle the cat (LOL) - no, just get the cat in your lap, put an arm around
>him/her. Pry open the jaws, shove the pill in, close the jaws and then blow
>gently on the cats nose. They swallow reflexively. Sounds much harder than
>it is

Lap? Are you kidding? LOL! Our cat is very strong, and really, REALLY
hates taking pills. I have to grab him, place one knee on each side of him
to hold him down, then cross my ankles so he can't back out. Then I follow
Jill's instructions. Works great, but he can sense when I have a pill for
him, and Poof! He's gone.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 04:34:53 -0600, "jmcquown"
>
> wrote:
>
> >Some cats are just too smart for that. Mine won't take a pill
encased in
> >*anything* although the dog didn't mind the Velveeta around the pill
trick.
> >I found pilling Persia to be a breeze, really. All you have to do
is
> >wrestle the cat (LOL) - no, just get the cat in your lap, put an arm
around
> >him/her. Pry open the jaws, shove the pill in, close the jaws and
then blow
> >gently on the cats nose. They swallow reflexively. Sounds much
harder than
> >it is
>
> Lap? Are you kidding? LOL! Our cat is very strong, and really,
REALLY
> hates taking pills. I have to grab him, place one knee on each side
of him
> to hold him down, then cross my ankles so he can't back out. Then I
follow
> Jill's instructions. Works great, but he can sense when I have a
pill for
> him, and Poof! He's gone.
>
> Carol
> --
> "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
> 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
> Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote
me."
>
> *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

ndooley writes:
>
>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>"jmcquown" wrote:
>>
>> >Some cats are just too smart for that. Mine won't take a pill encased in
>> >*anything*
>>
>>Our cat is very strong.

One of my cats gets a giant pill every day (L-Lysine 500mg). I crush it into a
fine powder and mix it with a tablespoon of yogurt; Berry-Berry is Jack's
favorite, place it in a saucer and he laps it up lickity split. Pill crushers
are reasonably priced (less than $5) and readily available at most any
pharmacy. Just be sure to inquire of the doctor or pharmacist if it's the type
of pill that's okay to crush, certain coated and time-release types can't but
most pills prescribed for animals can be crushed.

pill crusher: http://tinyurl.com/3nzq8


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In article >, damsel-
says...
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 04:34:53 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
> >Some cats are just too smart for that. Mine won't take a pill encased in
> >*anything* although the dog didn't mind the Velveeta around the pill trick.
> >I found pilling Persia to be a breeze, really. All you have to do is
> >wrestle the cat (LOL) - no, just get the cat in your lap, put an arm around
> >him/her. Pry open the jaws, shove the pill in, close the jaws and then blow
> >gently on the cats nose. They swallow reflexively. Sounds much harder than
> >it is
>
> Lap? Are you kidding? LOL! Our cat is very strong, and really, REALLY
> hates taking pills. I have to grab him, place one knee on each side of him
> to hold him down, then cross my ankles so he can't back out. Then I follow
> Jill's instructions. Works great, but he can sense when I have a pill for
> him, and Poof! He's gone.

I get a huge towel and bind the cat in it. I only do this with the 12lb.
and 6.5lb cats, the big guy is docile enough that you can give him
medication without much effort.

Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of said
arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point. Mouth
opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye pill.
Release cat.

"Tony P." wrote:

> Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of said
> arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point. Mouth
> opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye pill.
> Release cat.

Get dirty look. Say Tough on you.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> "Tony P." wrote:
>
>> Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of said
>> arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point. Mouth
>> opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye pill.
>> Release cat.
>
> Get dirty look. Say Tough on you.
>
> nancy
>

Ah, cat humour Some great ones on the web.

How to give your cat a pill:
http://www.cats.alpha.pl/pill.htm

How to give your cat a bath:
http://www.airynothing.com/humor/Cat_bath.txt

K
--
nil illegitimi carborundum

>From: Amarantha

>Ah, cat humour Some great ones on the web.
>
>How to give your cat a pill:
>http://www.cats.alpha.pl/pill.htm
>
>How to give your cat a bath:
>http://www.airynothing.com/humor/Cat_bath.txt

Steve Martin, misquoted: I just took it easy, taking a day off. Gave the cat a
bath. And when I got all the hair off my tongue . . .

In article >, says...
> "Tony P." wrote:
>
> > Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of said
> > arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point. Mouth
> > opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye pill.
> > Release cat.
>
> Get dirty look. Say Tough on you.

The last time I had to give medication to a cat was when my eldest male
cat had a couple of teeth extracted. The reason they rotted is because
dumbass doesn't chew his food, he swallows it whole.

The vet explained that house cats really don't need their teeth, and
that the kibble is designed to be swallowed whole.

Anyhow I had to give him clindamycin drops - that was fun. Used the same
process as for a pill. This went on for a couple of weeks and it took a
long time for him to trust me again.

This is that same cat that when he was a kitten had ear mites and
ringworm. That's when I learned how to administer drugs to a cat.

In article > ,
says...
> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
> > "Tony P." wrote:
> >
> >> Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of said
> >> arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point. Mouth
> >> opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye pill.
> >> Release cat.
> >
> > Get dirty look. Say Tough on you.
> >
> > nancy
> >
>
> Ah, cat humour Some great ones on the web.
>
> How to give your cat a pill:
> http://www.cats.alpha.pl/pill.htm
>
> How to give your cat a bath:
> http://www.airynothing.com/humor/Cat_bath.txt
>
> K
>

I liked the cat bathing story. Of the three cats, only the two males can
be bathed with the youngest and also largest cat being the easiest one.

When they're > 20lbs. they can't make a quick getaway. So they just
resign themselves to the fact that they're going to get wet and they
should learn to live with it. Thing is, because he's so big he has
trouble cleaning certain areas therefore necessitating a bath every now
and then.

The lighter male requires constant reassurance and since he can clean
himself baths are a rare event for him.

There will be NO bathing of the 6.5lb female cat if you value your life.
She is a terror.

In article > ,
Amarantha > wrote:

> Ah, cat humour Some great ones on the web.
>
> How to give your cat a pill:
> http://www.cats.alpha.pl/pill.htm
>
> How to give your cat a bath:
> http://www.airynothing.com/humor/Cat_bath.txt

Further OT... Another bit of feline-inspired humor. I wrote and posted
this back in the Jurassic age of usenet. It has since been copied onto
many web pages. And if you have ever had cats, you will probably
recognize this game.

>>>>

Kibble Soccer

Any number of cats can play. The game begins when the referees go to
bed. The player runs to the bowl where the dry cat food is kept and
executes a "place-kick." The player does this by attempting to kick one
kibble from the bowl with a paw. Using the nose and tongue is allowed,
but this is considered bad form. Often the bowl must be tipped, rocked,
or rattled. Once the kibble is out of the bowl and in play, the player
proceeds to bat it around the room as quickly as possible. This is
accomplished with short alternating swipes with the front paws and
running behind it as it moves. This is also known as the "kibble
dribble". If the kibble gets stuck at the intersection of two walls, the
player must attempt to put it back into play with a "corner kick."

If the kibble is still on the playing field after 30 seconds, the player
is awarded a point. That player is then allowed to eat the kibble, after
which one returns to the bowl to put the next piece into play. No points
are awarded for kibbles that are kicked out of the playing area (under
the stove, behind the refrigerator, etc.). These are left for the
cockroaches and other spectators. The player must put a new kibble into
play.

For equipment, any dry kibble will work, although round ones roll
particularly well. The referees control the pace of the game by waking
up (usually after the first few points have been scored) and imposing
obstacles between the player and the kibbles. The referees do this by
placing covers on top of the bowl, placing the bowl on a counter top or
shelf, or otherwise hiding it. An advanced player is measured by the
degree of ingenuity displayed in overcoming the obstacles between self
and the kibbles and resuming the game. The game ends when all the
kibbles are eaten, are out of the playing field, or when a referee puts
the player in the penalty box.

>>>>

--
Julian Vrieslander

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Tony P." wrote:
>
>> Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of
>> said arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point.
>> Mouth opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye
>> pill. Release cat.
>
> Get dirty look. Say Tough on you.
>
> nancy

Who was ever killed by a cat giving a dirty look? The blow (gently) on the
nose thing really does work! And if you have to use a towel to bind up
kicking claws, okay

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

>
> Who was ever killed by a cat giving a dirty look? The blow (gently) on the
> nose thing really does work! And if you have to use a towel to bind up
> kicking claws, okay

I guess it depends on the cat. I have known some pretty tough cats over the
years. I have a friend who had a tom cat on their farm who was huge. My
friend's mother adored that cat, and he loved her. Most other people were
terrified of it. I once almost lost a finger giving it a piece of meat. I have
known lots of dogs that tended to snap at food that was present by hand, but I
wasn't prepared for the speed of his snap. Nor was I expecting a double pawed
swat with the claws. A dirty look from him was a stern warning, and you would
have been well advised to heed the warning. If you tried to bind his feet with
a towel you'd soon be using it to staunch the flow of your blood. :-)

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
> > "Tony P." wrote:
> >
> >> Once the cat is bound, hold in one crooked arm, use hand at end of
> >> said arm to gently pinch right near the jawbone attachment point.
> >> Mouth opens, use other hand to insert pill, blow on nose, bye bye
> >> pill. Release cat.
> >
> > Get dirty look. Say Tough on you.
> >
> > nancy
>
> Who was ever killed by a cat giving a dirty look? The blow (gently) on the
> nose thing really does work! And if you have to use a towel to bind up
> kicking claws, okay
>
> Jill

We've got Phoebe well trained to take her pill encased in baby food, so
I think we'll stick with that method. She has to go back up to 1/2 pill
twice a day for her hyperthyroidism, according to the vet.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
> >
> > Who was ever killed by a cat giving a dirty look? The blow (gently) on the
> > nose thing really does work! And if you have to use a towel to bind up
> > kicking claws, okay
>
> I guess it depends on the cat. I have known some pretty tough cats over the
> years. I have a friend who had a tom cat on their farm who was huge. My
> friend's mother adored that cat, and he loved her. Most other people were
> terrified of it. I once almost lost a finger giving it a piece of meat. I
> have
> known lots of dogs that tended to snap at food that was present by hand, but
> I
> wasn't prepared for the speed of his snap. Nor was I expecting a double pawed
> swat with the claws. A dirty look from him was a stern warning, and you
> would
> have been well advised to heed the warning. If you tried to bind his feet
> with
> a towel you'd soon be using it to staunch the flow of your blood. :-)

That reminds me of my former cat Shamus, who once rode a German Shepherd
out of the yard. He was 20 lb. of serious black barn cat. He used the
direct approach to get what he wanted--he'd slap your hand with the
piece of pizza still in it.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 02:29:48 GMT, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:


>
>Now that I'm working at a store with a fabulous selection of cheeses
>from all over the world, we haven't bought a brick of that factory made
>Wisconsin cheese for months.


Don't write off the entire state of Wisconsin. The blooming of
single-herd artisanal cheesmakers has reached that state as well.


I do remember back in the 1960s a friend who had worked as a chef in
WI for several years said there was no cheese made there that was fit
to eat.

I think he would no say that today. Sorry I can't call up names in my
head.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC

Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

> Don't write off the entire state of Wisconsin. The blooming of
> single-herd artisanal cheesmakers has reached that state as well.


Definitely. That's why I was careful to say "factory made" and not just
"Wisconsin cheese." In fact, a little preliminary web research shows
that cheeses made at the same farm where the animals (goats and sheep as
well as cows) are milked are in every state. We're getting great cheese
from Wisconsin, Oregon and Maine. In time I expect to see them from all
over.


--Lia

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

> Don't write off the entire state of Wisconsin. The blooming of
> single-herd artisanal cheesmakers has reached that state as well.


Definitely. That's why I was careful to say "factory made" and not just
"Wisconsin cheese." In fact, a little preliminary web research shows
that cheeses made at the same farm where the animals (goats and sheep as
well as cows) are milked are in every state. We're getting great cheese
from Wisconsin, Oregon and Maine. In time I expect to see them from all
over.


--Lia

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

> Don't write off the entire state of Wisconsin. The blooming of
> single-herd artisanal cheesmakers has reached that state as well.


Definitely. That's why I was careful to say "factory made" and not just
"Wisconsin cheese." In fact, a little preliminary web research shows
that cheeses made at the same farm where the animals (goats and sheep as
well as cows) are milked are in every state. We're getting great cheese
from Wisconsin, Oregon and Maine. In time I expect to see them from all
over.


--Lia